Title: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 15, 13:15:53 Sims no longer obsessed with restaurant podiums and coffee bars. Queues no longer stomped by seating assignments, enabling your employees and sims to eat unmolested.
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/terror/blue.gif) OFB: (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/zip.gif)restaurantbarfix.zip (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/ofb/hacks/restaurantbarfix.zip) NOTE: Anyone using Director's Cut "nodiningwithscum" should update when installing this, as some functions have been fixed & integrated into this (and removed from that). Restaurant/Bar/Coffeebar Fixes for TS2OFB Made by: Flying Fish Systems (J. M. Pescado & Doctor Boris) Special Thanks To: Hobbsee the Scrawny Pencil Neck Fat, Hairy-Bellied Ness BlueSoup, Fat Head Congratulations to: Draklixa! INSTRUCTIONS: Place in your MYDOCU~1\EAGAME~1\THESIM~1\DOWNLO~1 FEATURES: 1. Sims no longer obsessed with eating at restaurants in endless loops when not full, or drinking coffee when not tired. Also cuts down desire for sims to commit bladdericide from the above. 2. Seats occupied by your sims & bar patrons less likely to clash with host seating assignments, resulting in queue stompage. Queue stompage BAD! COMPATIBILITY: Compatible with all FFS hacks. Tested for TS2OFBp2. SIDE EFFECTS: May cause computer damage, incontinence, explosion of user's head, coma, death, and/or halitosis. WARNING: Do not open, crush, dispose of in fire, put in backwards, short-circuit, or mix with non-awesome hacks - may explode, leak, or catch fire, resulting in injury and/or death. Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: jsalemi on 2006 July 15, 14:16:46 Am I correct in thinking this replaces Crammyboy's 'restaurant hunger fix', or should we still use both?
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 15, 14:17:33 Am I correct in thinking this replaces Crammyboy's 'restaurant hunger fix', or should we still use both? Replaces.Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: jsalemi on 2006 July 15, 14:19:52 As I thought -- thanks!
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 15, 14:42:44 As I thought -- thanks! Fixed bug with table check, redownload.Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: MissDoh on 2006 July 15, 20:37:28 Marvelous, I have to try this right now :)
EDIT: After running Paladin hack conflict tool, I ended up with this report: *** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED *** File Type: BHAV Procedure Name: Interaction - Be Seated At Bar TEST Group ID: 0x7FDFFE55 Instance ID: 0x0000204D Packages Containing This Procedure: \downloads\restaurantbarfix.package \downloads\restaurantbarfix.package It is like the mod is conflicting with itself, is this normal, should I worry? Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 15, 21:05:31 Should be fixed now.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: MissDoh on 2006 July 15, 21:23:14 Thanks.
With the newest version. No conflict appeared. Off to try it. :) Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: Qwiggles on 2006 July 16, 14:42:12 I've only tried this one time but I noticed that when my sim bought coffee for another sim, the other person did not take her coffee, she simply walked away. Is this a side effect if perhaps she wasn't tired enough? I was indeed pleased with the lack of a crowd in front of the espresso cart.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 16, 14:59:11 It's possible, but shouldn't have interfered with pushed actions, only autonomous selection. More likely it was conventional route blockage and timeout.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: kutto on 2006 July 16, 15:54:53 Does this hack also stop waiters from going to get coffee across the lot instead of doing their job?
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 17, 02:55:56 Does this hack also stop waiters from going to get coffee across the lot instead of doing their job? I believe the compulsive desire of waiters to stalk across the lot so they can throw away all of the barista's coffee is covered in the Coffee Cup Hack.Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: MissDoh on 2006 July 18, 04:39:38 Does this hack also stop waiters from going to get coffee across the lot instead of doing their job? I believe the compulsive desire of waiters to stalk across the lot so they can throw away all of the barista's coffee is covered in the Coffee Cup Hack.It does not apply to the owner on the other hand. I have been using the coffeecup mod for awhile and when the shop is open the owner will rush to the expresso bar whenever it have a chance too. Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 July 18, 05:14:38 I can't wait to try this out. I have been going nuts because of the swarm of sims around the coffee bar. Last night, my sim tried and tried to get coffee until she was about to pass out. Every time she got close enough to buy coffee, one of the townies would butt in front of her, and they didn't need it! When she finally got up to the counter, the command timed out, so someone else got in front of her. She finally got a cup of coffee, which was enough to get her home where she could caffeinate properly. >:( I'm hoping this will fix that type of situation.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: MyPrecious on 2006 July 27, 09:10:21 I've only tried this one time but I noticed that when my sim bought coffee for another sim, the other person did not take her coffee, she simply walked away. Is this a side effect if perhaps she wasn't tired enough? I was indeed pleased with the lack of a crowd in front of the espresso cart. I had this too twice? Although its worth it to keep the crowds away (even if my new shiny romance coffee sim is looking deathly bored by lack of customers). I still get the points for the "buy coffee for a sim" they just don't collect or drink it. Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: jaccirocker on 2006 August 11, 08:04:36 I'll try this and see if it works or conflicts with Squinges n-a drinking from bar (?)
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: mmmyrs on 2006 August 17, 07:32:40 I love you! I really do! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: linolino on 2006 August 18, 19:16:53 does this affect sims from buying drinks from normal bars?
I started a home business and i bought a bar here is what happens: if i just make a bunch of drinks and leave it on top of the bar, lots of sims will come to get a glass, however if i assign a sim to be bartender, no one will buy drinks... and also no one will buy coffe from my expresso bar.. strange Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: jsalemi on 2006 August 18, 20:12:50 That's probably because you can't run restaurant/cafe type businesses on a home lot (at least not without hacks). Home lots can only be sales-oriented, not service oriented.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: linolino on 2006 August 18, 20:40:28 oh!!! so i guess that expresso bar in my home catalog was probably included in my game by a downloaded house package...
however the bars ARE supposed to be at the home catalog, so why is there a option to be bartender in homebusiness? Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: jsalemi on 2006 August 18, 21:35:54 They were originally for home entertainment -- they've been there since before OFB (I believe Uni added them). Someone in the house/dorm could be the bartender to ensure that all the party guests had 'juice' to drink. OFB didn't change their function on home lots.
Oh, and you can also hire a bartender by phone; the bar just won't autogenerate one like it does on a community lot. Still won't let you charge for it, though. Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 August 20, 06:52:38 That's probably because you can't run restaurant/cafe type businesses on a home lot (at least not without hacks). Home lots can only be sales-oriented, not service oriented. Actually you can, and it doesn't need hacks, but depending on the item you want, you may have to be creative to get them on the lot.Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: baratron on 2006 August 22, 22:55:06 All Pescados Suck >:(.
It seems that the restaurantbarfix dated 15 july 2006 from the NL version of moreawesomethanyou.zip makes a community lot of mine crash to desktop, repeatedly (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,5340.msg153246.html#msg153246). I'm running Nightlife + NL Patch 2. It is only the restaurantbarfix that's the problem - with it removed and all other custom content & hacks intact, the lot is playable. And yes - the lot is a restaurant. Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 August 22, 23:24:06 Lemme check why that happens. I bet it's that random "completely senseless and totally inconsistent robot-related crash bug" again. It is somewhat of a mystery why this happens sometimes and not others, or why the game crashes on code that it never actually runs. Try the new NL-only version just uploaded.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: Magicmoon on 2006 August 24, 01:02:12 I just tried the latest Restaurant Fix for NL and it crashes me to the desktop just like last version. Checked it in a vanilla game and it still does it.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: siouxsn on 2006 August 26, 22:25:10 This sounds great, I can't wait to try it! My sims love having customers when they're the baristas, but trying to buy a cup of coffee can take forever! ::)
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 August 28, 10:49:37 I just tried the latest Restaurant Fix for NL and it crashes me to the desktop just like last version. Checked it in a vanilla game and it still does it. Try this new version just uploaded.Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: baaaflatfit on 2006 August 29, 04:41:33 I've looked here http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/ofb/hacks/ and I don't see an updated nodiningwithscum hack. Have you uploaded one yet? ???
Max Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: Avalikia on 2006 August 29, 05:36:56 That mod is in the director's cut.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: baaaflatfit on 2006 August 29, 05:54:57 Yup, I have that one already, but Pescado's note made me wonder if there wasn't a more recent version. ???
Quote NOTE: Anyone using Director's Cut "nodiningwithscum" should update when installing this, as some functions have been fixed & integrated into this (and removed from that). Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: HelloKit on 2006 August 29, 15:10:29 Yes, in the Director's Cut. He meant you should update the whole Director's Cut.
Yup, I have that one already, but Pescado's note made me wonder if there wasn't a more recent version. ??? Quote NOTE: Anyone using Director's Cut "nodiningwithscum" should update when installing this, as some functions have been fixed & integrated into this (and removed from that). Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: Magicmoon on 2006 August 29, 18:49:21 I just tried the latest Restaurant Fix for NL and it crashes me to the desktop just like last version. Checked it in a vanilla game and it still does it. Try this new version just uploaded.Sorry. Still crashing vanilla to the desktop on community lot load. Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 August 29, 22:05:02 Well, I'm just mystified, and it's really not a huge issue in NL anyway, so I'm just going to declare this OFB-only. The NL engine seems to be just too buggy.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: RainbowTigress on 2006 August 29, 22:18:56 That's too bad, but then again, I never noticed this to be as much of a problem until I installed OFB. ???
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: Tigerlilley on 2006 September 04, 22:48:23 is this compatible with the eatmoretalkless hack? It seems since i installed this one sims have been conversing almost as much as they did without the eatmore hack.
Perhaps its in my head... but im sure they are talking more... Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 September 05, 02:37:31 I wouldn't know anything about that. The officially supported FFS version is "noeatcrap". I wouldn't know what the Crammyian version does.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: Avalikia on 2006 September 05, 04:43:59 I have eatmoretalkless and this mod. According to my conflict scanner they don't get in eachother's way, and I haven't had any trouble.
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: Tigerlilley on 2006 September 05, 09:25:49 hmm maybe its something else thats doing it then.
I dunno how i lived for so long without that hack to be quite honest! Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: nortonsapple on 2007 December 29, 03:27:45 Hello everyone! Quick question: I have not had anyone swarm the podium and this is good, but my seems that my sim is told that the restaurant is full or all of the seats have been reserved by another group. Where it appears to me that never is the case. there is no one seated at all. My sim was hungry....any ideas?
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 December 29, 03:55:45 Sounds like your tables are corrupted. Try replacing all tables?
Title: Re: Restaurant/Bar/CoffeeBar Fixes: Hobbsee Has A Scrawny Pencil Neck! Post by: nortonsapple on 2007 December 30, 18:59:57 okay, i'll give that a try. Thanks!
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