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I want to create a hood with an uni attached to and delete every single townie and uni townie and put my own in there instead. I also want to replace some of the NPCs that are generated. For instance the Uni teachers. Some are just horratios. I don't want to replace their names, just their shape.

I know that I can replace their looks with Simpe surgery BUT will that change their genetics as well? I mean am I just doing cosmetic surgery on them? I want the new teachers to have the genes of the new face and body.

Is that possible?

Kestran.

I've done this. Create new n'hood, create new Uni. delete AllCharacters in each place. Exit game. Put notownieregen and nodormieregen hacks in downloads folder. Boot up game. Create CAS sims in different age groups. Buy them an empty lot, move them in, add Inge's teleport plus bush. Choose 'make me a townie' for each sim. Choose 'clear off all non-residents'. Done. Save lot. You will have to go to the uni n'hood to make uni townies but apparently all NPCs are shared between both places.

Only problem I've seen so far is a custom dorm that hasn't yet attracted any custom townies, but I'll go back and see if I waited long enough before panicking.

I'm think professors could be created from townies? Don't mind if I don't get any actually, can't stand them. I particularly don't like the aspect that students can pass if they bonk the professors, I think that aspect sucks.

Professors have their own controller that creates them whenever there is fewer than one male or one female for each major. If you don't have any professors, the game will regenerate them all automatically when you begin playing a dorm. Then, you may start to see dormies showing up.

Hmm. Would the nodormieregen hack interfere with the generation of professors? If I gotta have them to play the game, I guess I gotta have them. :(

And as you say Dizzy-two, maybe that's why I'm not seeing dormies move in. Maybe the game lags I saw were generating Professors, not aborted dormies as I suspected.

I don't think it will interfere, at least it didn't in my game. I had deleted the first batch of professors along with many other unwanted characters in SimPE, I reloaded the game, went back to a dorm to start playing, it didn't take long for the game to sort of freeze for a few seconds, chug along excruciatingly at a slow speed before picking up again. I assumed that was due to the regeneration of needed npcs. I saved and quit after a while, opened up SimPE and sure enough, there were new professors created.

Well bugger me days, that's exactly what's happened. Opened SimPE and there's 24 of the Professor Parasites smiling their manic blubbery-lipped grins at me. 24 professors for 4 sims. OK  :-\

Oh, oh, I know what I want for Xmas! A hack that rips lips off sims!

The cosmetic surgery career reward object can do that when it fails.  Sometimes they have no nose or eyes either!

How do I go about jobs for those townies? Will it be enough to enroll the soon to be townies to a job via the computer before assigning them as townies? And of course I don't want all of them to have the bottom lvl job, so how can I using the simpe assign them a higher lvl job? And maybe add more skills to them?

And about hte noregendormies....that will affect ALL hoods right? Even brand new hoods I do not delete chars from?

I don't want to get rid of the teachers...I just want to change their genetical looks perminantly and have their offspring to inherit the new look. Is there a way to do that?

Kestran.

Considering that in many Universities this would be considered a reason for the professor concerned getting the boot, I think it's immoral to an extent that it should not be included in the game and I won't use it.  I also think the people who make such a fuss about teenagers  being too young to play because of sex, nudity and violence, would do better to concentrate on that particular aspect of the game!

Yes, you can change their genetics, I've done it a couple of times.  Rather than going into it all here, this is a link to a post explaining it on MTS2: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=56241&highlight=facial+genetics

Good Luck with your new-look professors!

Right you are - I totally ignore those perverts.  Everytime one roamed onto the lot, I deleted them, just so I would not have to look at them.  I was also disgusted with this game twist and thought the same thing about all the pre-teens that would be playing. 

I work in tertiary institution, in a team that has excellent ethics toward students. Our students are adults and deserving of respect. The way Maxis implemented this game twist of screwing for Uni passes, demeans education and those that work in education. I agree this aspect is far worse for impressionable young sims players than seeing an unblurred sim doll body. What were Maxis thinking?

I also don't let the Professors on the property.

Inge's Teleporter Painting Plus comes in very handy here  ;).

Does anyone know if it's ok to delete the extracted facial structures file (xml document and packed file) after the work is done? I tend to forget what I did after a while and don't wanna get confused when I look at the stuffs in my backup folders and see the 2 files sitting there  :P.

TwoJeffs' NPC & Visitor Zapper works good too, just set it to zap all professors upon entering the lot.

I use that, but some still turn up and you have to individually ban them!  And after they leave univ, they get positively stalked on the phone by their ex-professors!

I had no idea that Maxis put that in to the game. What a bunch of hypocrites. It also shows you just how little I actually play university.

I haven't played the University part of the game much either,  but what time I have played it I never had any professors act inappropriately.   I thought  the students themselves had to initiate those kind of relationships with the professors.  I  never saw anything occur that would even indicate that a student could pass a course just by screwing the professor.  I did note that if they spent time talking with the professors that they got a little boost in their grades.   But  I saw that in real life while in college.   Students that hung around after class to talk with the professor about the subject usually had better grades.  But that also indicated a higher interest in the subject.   If preteens caught on to that feature in Uni I would say they would already know a lot more about the matter than they could learn from the game. 

Woot! Thanks Ancient Sim :) And thanks you all this is great.

One more question though, about nodormregen hack...will that effect an already established hoods? And what about newly created hoods I don't plan on deleting all chars? Will those hoods still generate townies and uni dorm townies?

Oh and about the romancing the teachers. I have just recently discovered this feature and one of my Sims (former teen townie) is head over heals with one of her teachers. Its the blond drama teacher. And he is just crazy about her as well. The romance wasn't suppose to happen btw. They two just decided they wanted to be together. I had nothing to do with it and I have to say they do make a lovely couple and he is not bad looking for an NPC. When she graduates I plan on having him moving with her into the recidence hood and marry her.

I find this feature to be useful. I don't feel it is demeaning or degrading to education. After all this is just a game and not real life. Its very useful being friendly to the teachers to get that extra boost to 4.0 grade. And no I don't push the friendlyness to romance. The couple I wrote about above was autonomous love.

Kestran.

I haven't used it yet but I would think it would effect all neighborhoods equally.  You wouldn't have to delete any characters for it to work.  But if you marry or otherwise make any of those dormies or townies player characters,  they would not be replaced.  So gradually your townie/dormie population would decrease.   

Probably because Drama Professors fall in love with everyone they meet, albeit it's one-sided. Not sure if it's because their sexual preference wasn't tempered with in SimPE i.e. no preference for either sex, so they are bisexual. Found myself going "Huh?? What the #@$%...?!!" when my YAs performed romantic interactions on their partners and the crazy professor rushed over to slap my YAs silly. Looked in SimPE subsequently and saw that she (it was a female, Aurora Chalmers) has a 100/100 + love for all my YAs even though they are not necessarily even friends with her. So, be careful no Drama Professors are on the lot if your YAs has set their heart on someone else.

Or feed the drama professor to the cowplant!

This happened to me too.  I was having a party and the next thing I knew one of my sims was getting slapped by her professor because she wanted to flirt with her boyfriend.  I was like, "what the?" because she wasn't in love with her professor.  That's when I looked at her professor with the mind control mirror and saw that she was in love with everyone already.  I thought that was weird.  I didn't know it was just drama professors though. 

The part about getting class performance from woohooing with your professors was in the Prima Guide, so any kid who has that should know.  Plus hanging around the BBS, I'm sure they'd find out sooner or later.  Then they would have to run try it.  The Prima Guide has a chart telling how much each activity gains in class performance per hour, and woohooing ranks up there with group research and going to class, but usually woohoo doesn't last a whole hour.  It's 50 points for each woohoo, and going to class is worth 100 points per hour.  Group reasearch with 4 sims is worth 105 per hour.  Doing an assignment is 90 per hour.  Is it worth it?  You do get grade points for each relationship point with the professor in your major, but you also lose grade points for each relationship lost.  Consider how much more quickly you can get your class performance bar filled by doing real coursework, especially with JM's College Rampage.  In about a day they have their performance bar topped off.

Yes. Exactly what rainbow says. I mean I have all my YAs do their term paper, get all their skills up to the level they are required to be in, and then alternate the rest of their time (in between friendship making with other YAs) between assignments and research. Then when there are maybe 12 or something hours till the finals they all hit the phones and either invite or talk to their teachers just for the final boost.

I don't even allow the professors on the lots any more.  I get sick of how when the sim goes back to the neighbourhood and has been there for days and days, the darn professors have nothing better to do than keep phoning them up!  So now I concentrate my sims on making and keeping student friends, and keeping in touch with family and friends back home.

It was fun watching the drama professor on community lots. In my previous gameplay, the female professor would enter the lot with walking her perky little walk, try to leap into the arms of every sim she comes across and land hard on her bum 'cos obviously, the students weren't gonna catch a stranger they just met. She'd proceed to try to flirt - and be rejected of course. Sometimes, when she had spent enough time playing pool with the YAs and gotten to know them much better, she'd flirt again and be successful at it - only to get slapped silly by her new love 'cos she put the same moves on someone else. Poor things, drama professors, the way they are wired.

Sad! ;D ;D ;D

Last night I tried to see if I could get one of my romance sims through a semester without doing any schoolwork.  She phoned up her professor, with whom she had a 0/0 relationship, and by the time she got off the phone, she had half her grade bar filled (thanks to Pescado's phone hack).  She was at 100 STR (not sure about LTR).  Then she invited him over.  Using TJ's casual romance mod, she invited him to the hot tub to woohoo.  After several rounds of this, her bar was nearly full, but she was starving.  So she went to eat.  A little while later, I get a message that the professor is leaving, saying "Bye."  I didn't pay much mind.  He was an elder and wasn't even that good-looking.  Next thing I know, everyone is going to the backyard, and I see him falling on the ground.  The sim who I was controlling at that point had "Sigh" in her queue.  It turns out that the professor had passed out and starved to death!  I thought, Wow, she killed him!  She woohooed him to death!  I thought I might keep him around so my knowledge sims have a ghost to see.  She didn't even care about him.  I guess he was so ugly he needed to die.   :P  I think it was easier to stick with doing the regular coursework.

ROFL!

I was scanning all the Uni characters in SimPE one day and I noticed some (more) errors.  I don't know if the NPCs inherently start out as males, but some of the female professors had the opposite gender checked where it says, 'Treat as:' on the character page.  None of the male professors had this error, so I corrected them.  That certainly explains some of the weirdness.

Certainly does!  I just ban professors!!!

Just one more question related to my original question in this thread (didn't want to clog up the forum a whole new thread)...about creating teen townies. Now I can't create teen townies in CAS without creating the parents as well...when I move them into a lot with that brush thing and make them townies, the family connection with their parents will be severed right? What about the family tree? Will that also disappear?

And about the parents. Its safe to delete them afterwards after their kids become townies?

 Kestran,  the family tie is kept (or at least, it is in the family I made townies in one of my neighborhoods), and has to be edited away with SimPE or some other means. I'm not sure about the family tree, but since the ties are there I would hazard a guess that the tree is, too.

Unless you have a vast surplus of adult townies, if I were you I'd make one adult sim I wanted as a townie in CAS and seven teenagers that are arbitrarily set as its children. I'd then make them townies via the shrub, then edit away the family ties via SimPE, then repeat as necessary (I think the game only makes 26 townies of child-adult anyhow). I don't know if there is any easier way to do this.

Thanks Renatus, I was afraid of that...you know if there is any adverse effects if I were to leave the family ties unsevered after the teens are towniefied? And if I perhaps make their parents townies as well instead of deleting them? I do need a couple of adult townies anyway and I was thinking it might just be fun, if I manage to move in one of the parents in with my Sims I could move in the other parent as well and when the teens come back from Uni they will have some family awaiting them.

I don't know if it does anything bad since I haven't had a chance to play that neighborhood much. I can test it out, but it'll take a day or two since I'm studying for my Finnish final (which is tomorrow *sob*) and have to go to bed soon.

Oh gosh. Good luck on your Finnish finals. Hope you do very well. And don't worry about the testing. I can do that myself if I decide to try it out and if it funks up the hood its okei. I can remake it easily. I have all the characters saved in bodyshop files anyway so all I would have to do is name them and clothe them. Oh and maybe put some makeup on them 8)

And thank you :)

You're quite welcome! It's nice when I can be a little useful around here :D

And thanks so much for the well wishes. I usually do well, but after seeing the practice test, I'm in a bit of a panic. I need all of the luck I can get!