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I have searched every hack site and maybe I'm just blind, or too picky about my game, but does anyone know of a hack where toddlers and adults will gain social when a toddler is playing and the adult joins them?  It's just stupid that they don't.

you do know that they will gain social when playing with the rabbit head?

I usually have numerators mirrors because it's easier to gain body as a toddler then a child or teen...maybe that's why. But they don't seem to with the logic block thing either...

Another thought, does anyone else find it annoying that (aside from the mirror) whenever you go to feed a bottle to a toddler who is playing, the action cancels out cuz the parent can't get to them to give them the bottle, then they go back to playing and you have to cancel that out and make them go to the bottle and drink?  Maybe it's just me...

use the baby controller... 

I do!  Even with that it still cancels out.  They bring the bottle to them, then end up setting it on the floor because the path is blocked.  Even when the kid is sitting out in the middle of the room with nothing by them, it's the toy itself I think.  That doesn't happen to you?

You do know that sims can interact with toddlers, right? If you use the action "play with" and then "tickle" that will also increase their social/relationship score?

Most of my toddlers are friends with all their family members and at least a couple of people who don't live in the house.

They don't have a laughing hysterically icon...shame.  Was that a serious question?

Yes, it was a serious question, just like yours was. And a sincere attempt to help you solve your problem. I think *somebody* in here needs a serious attitude adjustment.

You asked about a certain social for toddlers, and others pointed out to you a *possible* solution to your problem. Why do I get the feeling that you think you're better than the people on this forum?
Could it be because of the tone of your reply?

Oh come now, do you really think someone who hasn't figured out that there are ways to socially interact with toddlers could even figure out how to use a forum?  Of course I know that, how could you not?  It's great that someone wants to help, of course, but come on....
I simply want to know if there is a hack for the social when they are skilling and another person is playing with them, like I stated, not that hard to understand I thought!  Because aside from the rabbit head apparently (which I don't use often enough to know...oh my, the one who thinks she's better is admitting to not knowing something!) they don't gain social and how could they not if someone is playing with them?  Just seems silly to me.

I DON'T think I'm better, that just seemed like a pretty silly question, you'd have to have rarely played the game if at all to not know that, doncha think?

There is still a nicer way of saying, "Yes, I knew that" without being an asshat.

Asshat.

Well, thats funny, seemed to me that someone that would ask a question like that would think I was a total moron that couldn't even figure out the basics of the game...so excuse my reply...but I don't like people making me feel stupid either, like I said, how could you not know that if you've even raised one toddler?  Now, if everyone is finished pointning that out, does anyone have anything constructive to add?

Yes, you brought all of this on yourself. Just drop this arguement please.

I ate a hotdog for lunch

Kinda why I said the last line.... I'm a moron and an asshat, whatever that is, so humbley I appologize for being the idiot....  I really just want to know if anyone has an answer.  Or all you just having more fun bashing someone who reacted badly to someone implying she was an idiot?  Hot dogs sound good...maybe I'll just go lunch and give up!

Well, honestly, as I don't make my sims interact with their children much. I am not aware of any Maxis made objects that bring up the social bar for both the parent and the toddler.

And there really aren't that many custom new objects for sims of toddling age.

Althouuuuugh, I think the teddy bear brings up social for both when a sim "talks through" to the baby.

I think.

Not sure.

And just a lil side note, my wittle toddlers usually get nothing BUT the Talking Bunny Head toy. As charisma is THE most annoying skill in the game to raise (with the exception of career rewards, all the items in the game that raises charisma, drains comfort and fun REALLY fast) I usually have my toddlers get their 8 points in charisma and then give them the puzzle thingy, as logic is also annoying to raise.

My babies parents are usually too busy skilling themselves to try and interact with the baby while its playing.

And yes, I noticed that bottle dropping thing with toys (not just the mirror). I think the only time the parent actually gives the bottle to the youngin is if they're sitting in the middle of a LARGE empty room. For some reason, sims cannot turn around and give the bottle to the kid RIGHT AT THEIR FEET.

Hmmmm, haven't tried the teddy bear, I pretty much stick to skilling objects for my kids.   Had the teddy bear a few times, but they kept hauling it all over the place and setting it in the way of other things, irritating...
I know that reading to them works too... but my kids spend so much time skilling I hate to waste it simply for social when they really should be able to be skilling and bring it up.  I know, I get irritated too easy :P  Although I discovered a bug, maybe only in my game who knows...so i end up reading to them more nowadays anyway.  Just an annoying little thing that maxis overlooked that has been bugging me since I started playing, I figured maybe someone had made a hack somewhere...oh well.

  LMAO thank you thank you!!!!

btw, the mirror is the only one that DOESN'T seem to do that for me, another reason why I use it all the time, although I usually have to prod them to use it.  I find body annoying to build.  The pool is fun but builds it so slowly and everything else drains bladder, hygene and comfort super quick...unless you put a snapdragon next to them *sigh*

With my most recent family, I had the baby cycling between the rabbit, the logic puzzle, and the xylophone. I think she ended up 8/6/6 on her skills respectively. I used the MST2 toddler blanket, so she would put herself to sleep then wake up for her skilling without any interaction from the adults. Inventory full of smart milk and her parents never stepped into her room except for taking her to the tub for a bath.

Poor thing.

I usually wait for teenage years before I work on body (I don't even HAVE the mirror) because then I can throw them on the treadmill. Child years are usually spend watching the cooking channel and studying cleaning and mechnical from books, as children don't seem to get as large a motive drag doing those as adults. (It may just be the personality difference between them and their parents)

Do you teach them to walk, talk and potty train?  I've started to think maybe that's just a waste of time, all they seem to get out of it is memories.  But you'd have to potty train at least...

Oh yeah, of course. I do that almost as soon as they transition.

I BELIEVE that teaching them these things ensure that they 'grow up well.'

Since they pretty much clog up the toddler's wants until they're done.

"Ensure" may be too strong a word.  It raises the likelihood, sure, but it's not a guarantee.  A toddler who's learned all his/her skills and is in platinum 5 minutes before transition can still fall all the way into the red and grow up badly if something happens to trigger a major fear (for example, a close relative dying) before they manage to grow up. 

Karen

Meh, doesn't growing up well just give them 'happy memories' and a chance to live longer?

You know I have never bother to try it, but it would be kind of cool if the parents could play with the toddlers while they are playing with toys. What about the dollhouse? I know toddlers with toddlers can gain social playing with the toys, but I dont think I have ever tried it with kids or adults. I know kids can join in the dollhouse and get social with the toddlers....

Social isnt raise when playing with the skilling items with toddlers? Hmmm...interesting.

If there's enough room, then adults and children can watch the kids play with the xylophone and the blocks, but you pretty much need an empty tile all around the toy, and that rarely happens in my houses. I don't think these toys work nearly as well as the rabbit, at increasing relationship scores.

And, just to clarify, if I sounded like I thought you were an idiot, maybe you needed to phrase your question more clearly.

Yeah, all of my toys are laid out assembly line style, to cut down on travel time. =p

And yes, I do believe, without JM's elder age hack, the "growing up well" adds X amount of days to an elder's life.

If it's the same hack that I have, it adds days to adult life too, and not always the same amount.  I love this by the way, now they are varied as to when they age transition, very cool

It is basically purposeless to have anyone join a toddler at anything other than the rabbit head, since other toys grant no social or +rel. The toddler similarly pays no attention to the advice given.

Toddlers and adults gain strong socials through the normal day to day snuggle, tickle/play, talk to interactions, and even bathing them, so I'm at a loss why you'd need such a hack.

On the other hand, my game play reflects my philosophy: if you don't have time to spend with your kids, don't have kids.

ok ok, I KNOW they gain social through other things, but I find those other things a waste of time that takes away from their skilling, but that's not even the main reason.  Basically I just think, if an adult is playing with a toddler they are interacting, right?  And an interaction like this, playing with them... it just doesn't make sense that they don't gain social.  That's it, it's just a minor annoyance of something that was overlooked and irritates me because it doesn't make sense.

That's why you use the rabbit head to social them.

They should gain it with any toy....I give up.....*walks away shaking head*

They don't gain it with the other toys because the toddler doesn't talk to the other sim and, in fact, completely ignores him.

Ok, one last time I'll try to explain my point.  I hear what you're saying, but...you are focusing on what they do in the game, I'm saying what they should do! I'm saying since this is a SIM of real life, it should simulate it by haveing the social go up when an adult is playing with the kid on any toy.  I don't know about others, but my (real) kids had similar toys, and I played with them, I'm pretty sure their social went up (lol, I sim too much I think)  Doea anyone understand what I'm trying to say or am I just talking to myself here?

I don't understand. The kids ignore the other party when using the other toys, which is why they do not gain social. You don't gain social by ignoring people, right?

I understand what you're saying, but I think the toddlers get social enough from the charisma toy and the few interactions they have with adults.  Their social bar can only go so high before it's maxed, so what's the point in having everything gain social?  Play with the rabbit head if you want a social toy.  I hate watching Sims gain charisma while they're teens and adults anyway, so it's a good compromise.

Plus, too much realism isn't necessarily a good thing.  Not everything can be real-to-life.  That wouldn't be a fun game at all.

I think her main issue is the PARENTS not gaining socials, not the toddlers.

Don't the adults gain social on the rabbit thingie?  I dunno, I never rely on the toddlers when I want the parent's social to go up, and if I do, I just make them talk to the toddler, play with it, etc.

After that, they can put the toddler away in its box and let the toddler play on its own.  Children should be seen and not heard, and definitely avoided if possible.

My issue is really that neither gain social when they are playing together, plain and simple. It's stupid that they don't.  BlueSuop is the only one who even can begin to grasp this simple concept so far it seems, thank you Blue...  but while I agree that I don't want to watch my sims do too real such as doing laundry, etc, a simple thing like gaining social when you are playing with someone should be included.  I don't like playing with the rabbit head personally, just my preferance, if I did, I wouldn't care in the first place. 
But this thread is obviously going no where, so thanks for the input, I'm off to go sulk...I think.

Maybe this is why you have such trouble understanding the way toddlers gain social.  :D

Blue, it's that sort of attitude that makes for fathers that suck!  :-P

But sim toddlers are a different story than real ones.....

C

Ummmmmm, I have absolutely no trouble understanding how they gain social, I've raised so many I've lost count, having 143 currently in uni at the moment, and that is the 2nd generation I've sent there....I know, for the last time, that they can gain social by talking, playing, reading, bathing and playing with the damn rabbit head.  For the last time..... In real life when a kid plays with an adult, they are having a social interaction.  In the game, except for the rabbit head, they don't gain social from playing with a toy while an adult is playing with them.  They are playing with a toy with a person, they should, you would think be socially interacting with that person and therefore their social (and actually rel too) should go up.  Like JM likes to keep pointing out, they pretty much ignore the person who is playing with them and neither rel or social goes up, and it doesn't make sense because it should.  Because in real life, when a kid is playing with a toy and someone is playing with them, if we actually had those little bars, lol, they would both be going up. 
Seriously, and know this is going to sound condescending, I don't mean it to but really I'm curious, do you people actually read these threads or just want to put your two cents in without really caring what the person is trying to get across?  I've tried to explain my point several times, and you just don't seem to be getting it at all.

We get your point. What you're saying is that they should get social from the other toddler toys. But in a way, this is sorta pointless. Unless your toddlers social are going so far down they refuse to do anything, it doesn't really matter. And if Pescado doesn't see anything wrong with it, why should he fix it? Most of his fixes and mods are for his own playing style, y'know, and he's just kind enough to share them with us. :D

The best way to get toddler social up is to give them a bath...

And I don't know about anyone else, but I can WATCH a toddler playing and not gain any social interation from it if said toddler is completely ignoring me.

The problem is that you are so determined to think that we are all too stupid to understand your complex intellectual issue that you can't see when people are joking. I made the comment I made because you were having a tantrum, just like a toddler.

Here, think about it this way: sometimes when people disagree with you, it isn't because they don't understand your position, it's because they understand your position and disagree with it.

My social goes down if I am forced to interact with a toddler in any way. I work in retail. Kids. Ugh.

Babies, toddlers, children or teens for me.  :P  I prefer people who are older than me, even people a couple of years younger I find ridiculous.

I'm not really a people person.

I dunno, poking them with sticks is amusing. This is what we do with babies in my family, after all. We poke them with sticks. The ones that don't react properly are promptly left to die of exposure.

I wish you had been able to come to my daughter's birthday party today, JM. That would have been awesome. Those kids really needed to be poked with sticks at one point.

Just the one point?

Well, some of the time they were climbing up a giant rock climbing wall, so the stick would have had to be impractically long.

History has seen some pretty long poking-sticks in use. Would a 20-foot long pointy stick have done the job?

Like the one they had in *Friends* when they poked the ugly naked guy 'cos they thought he was dead?  That was a lot of small sticks (looked like chopsticks) joined together

With ketchup/catsup or mustard?
Grilled or microwaved or boiled?
Any certain brand?

Inquiring minds want to know!

I had a reuben sandwich (without the 1000 island dressing) and some taco doritos (caps left off the name brands on purpose).

Heheh, I remember that episode. *giggles madly* My favorite one is the one with Rachel's baby being born, just for Chandler's line of, "Seriously, sir, brains....ALL over the wall!"

Hijacking this thread, I would love to see toddler social interactions with younger babies and with each other. There are few things more adorable than watching two toddlers playing together or seeing a toddler greet and help care for a newborn sibling.

My first three kids were all about two years apart so--if translated into game equivalents--I had three toddlers at one time. They would often get scooped up and bathed together, they played together, and long before they reached school age they were friends.

I know this request has been made repeatedly in several different forums, but I haven't seen any results (is this most likely due to the problems with the animations?) Will we have interaction anytime soon, either from Maxis or via hack?

Err, you know, you shouldn't put two toddlers together and encourage them to interact in any way, or they will fight and one will kill the other. Unless you want that to happen. Toddlers are normally content to ignore each other, and will become violent if you force them to interact.

See, now THAT would be amusing.

OK, along with positive interactions, how about the oh-too-real pinch, poke or hit the infant sibling and make it cry if mommy or daddy leaves it on the floor where big brother or sister can reach it? But kiss, talk and snuggle need to be there too.

I'm pretty sure OFB added a 'tease' interaction that children can use towards toddlers, but I'm not sure of the exact circumstances where it's active.  I think the kid has to be a bit on the mean side, and the toddler doing something like drinking from a bottle.

Ketchup/boiled/Oscar Mayer....gotta love those chicken lips and assholes.  Mmmm.

W/o 1000 island?  Blasphemer!

You make a very good point.

well it would be realistic anyways..... toddlers and preschoolers do seem to be out to get the other.  The concept of MINE is firmly established so you need to kill the other to maintain this status.  Ive never seen poking with sticks though..sounds interesting.