Title: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 23, 10:36:44 considering my fantasy / inspiration lak
i will accept any suggestion / request in object buildings... Specially if they are coming form TS1 :) for the one that didn't know my last TS1 object is. this one (http://www.max3d.it/simsite/stuff.asp?id=2) (http://www.max3d.it/simsite/stuff/Max3D-14Sims1Television-full.jpg) so any suggestion are welcome :) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 June 23, 11:02:14 I just reinstalled the game so I can get you some good pictures.
I will edit this page as I get the pictures. I really want this one, it would be nice if you can make the seat come in a lot of colors. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/0f548f2a.jpg) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 12:45:16 Simbaby, have you got pics of the Unleashed wrought iron cafe chair and table?
Maximilian, I like the TV! Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 June 23, 13:10:01 Sure! The first two pictures are the ones from Unleashed. The other two are the set from Hot Date.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/b374c18d.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/11dccf60.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/419bb01d.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/80a35180.jpg) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Ness on 2006 June 23, 13:27:05 sorry to be a pedant... but they were all from unleashed, I'm sure!
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: blubug on 2006 June 23, 13:31:24 I want these as well! (cafe chairs and tables)
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ElfPuddle on 2006 June 23, 13:45:42 sorry to be a pedant... but they were all from unleashed, I'm sure! Nope! the green ones are the ones outside the icecream "bar" in the MaxiMade downltown. I have no idea what the address is, but the corner lot with three buildings, and a large fountain. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: kutto on 2006 June 23, 14:37:09 Absolutely right. Those green ones are from Hot Date. Also, that is amazing! I miss a lot of objects from TS1.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 14:46:54 Those were so pretty, in fact both sets were. So much nicer than those ugly wooden seats and tables! And not everyone wants funky!
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 23, 16:11:32 well .. the red chair is here (http://www.max3d.it/SimSite/stuff.asp?s=2&id=2) :)
(http://www.max3d.it/SimSite/stuff/TS1-Sedia-Werkbunnst-full.jpg) as you can see there is some color option.. actually i can't grantee that it works with the previous version.. but should be... for the other i can't promise nothing... that 'cause they are a bit detailed and they will require a bit.. but i'll try :) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 16:21:29 Theyre really great! thank you!
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: blubug on 2006 June 23, 16:58:08 Thank you! I'll love the others if you can make 'em
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: buddha pest on 2006 June 23, 17:10:48 I miss a particular chair - the one that was orange, and round, and kind of fuzzy looking. It was on skinny legs.
Maybe simsbaby could post a picture of it. If he/she knows what I'm talking about. I loved that green cafe table & chair too. Are there even any round dining tables in TS2 at all? I can't remember. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 17:13:20 There's the moroccan one, but it isn't exactly round! But there is a beautifyl round cafe table at simthingforeveryone with matching chairs or stool - you need to look in the meshes section.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Plu on 2006 June 23, 17:17:31 Hey cool idea! Whether or not it was cheap of Maxis to use Sims 1 music in OfB I certainly enjoyed travelling back in time to Sims 1 days when I heard it!
I remember playing the first game a while ago...the graphics are shocking in comparison to today's game, I could hardly play it :D Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Jelenedra on 2006 June 23, 17:21:26 I was always a fan of the self flushing toilet, myself.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 17:22:46 They used it (Sims1 music) in NL with the Karaoke machine!
The self-flushing toilet certainly saved a lot of time! I liked the big square bathtub too! Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: buddha pest on 2006 June 23, 17:24:19 There's the moroccan one, but it isn't exactly round! But there is a beautifyl round cafe table at simthingforeveryone with matching chairs or stool - you need to look in the meshes section. Oh man. I'm loving the TS1 wall textures they have. The palm trees, the bamboo, the hot air balloons = flashback.Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Jelenedra on 2006 June 23, 17:24:49 Ooooh yeah, the big bath tub.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 17:26:03 They have all the Sims1 walls there.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: blubug on 2006 June 23, 17:30:09 I miss a particular chair - the one that was orange, and round, and kind of fuzzy looking. It was on skinny legs. Maybe simsbaby could post a picture of it. If he/she knows what I'm talking about. I loved that green cafe table & chair too. Are there even any round dining tables in TS2 at all? I can't remember. I remember the fuzzy chair too, but it wasn't moroccan. It was more retro. Not actually round, but sort of shaped to sit in snugly, with wire legs. Ooo I loved that chair, had it in every house! And I just remembered, there was a pretty wicker seating set too (came with Unşeashed, I think) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 17:35:47 I think it was fairly comfy for a cheap chair too.
Sorry, the moroccan thing I was referring to was the sims2 dining table because buddhapest asked if there were any round dining tables in TS2. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: blubug on 2006 June 23, 17:37:12 Oh okay, my misunderstanding. :D
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 June 23, 19:55:02 Ok, got a picture of that orange thing in the catalog, if you make this you really have to create a hot pink color. :D I also forgot that their was another part of the Unleashed cafe set.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/b7d8baa7.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/6406c1a2.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/5f24c651.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/2b075e41.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/fa171a3d.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/1d835134.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/85dc7552.jpg) Edit had to take one of this. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/Picture9.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/d031e281.jpg) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 June 23, 19:58:17 I'm pretty sure a version of those couches already exists in TS2. If someone wants to volunteer to photograph the self-flushing terlet (from all angles), and someone can mesh that, I can code that.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Trubble on 2006 June 23, 20:18:47 The statue in the boxers!!
That might be hard to mesh though. I can't remember what the other thing was I missed... I'll get back to you. Great idea :) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: blubug on 2006 June 23, 20:20:22 Around the Sims has a very similar version of the stereo, how about that old-style toilet with the water compartment on the wall (came with unleashed). I keep remembering and wanting more stuff, but it wouldn't be polite now, would it, to make MaximilianPS regret asking what we would like. (Although I want it all :D)
And the Statue in Boxers was a kitsch version of Michaelangelo's David, and I had it in all my woohoo rooms (though I didn't call them that back then :)) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Jelenedra on 2006 June 23, 21:00:35 There is a mesh in TS2 that looks like the pinstripe sofa, but they're not the same color, and they're not pinstriped...
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: buddha pest on 2006 June 23, 21:09:51 Oh, you know what I miss? The porch swing! TS2 badly needs a porch swing.
That's best left to Maxis though because it needs animations. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ElfPuddle on 2006 June 23, 22:00:55 What I miss most are the variety of animations.....sigh
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: buddha pest on 2006 June 23, 22:07:20 I miss the sounds. The sounds made it feel like you were getting sucked into the void. I don't know why.
The sounds on the tv, the music that played when a fire started or someone died, the voices, the neighborhood music. It seems like it was a quieter game than TS2 though. I miss "Do you canoe?" too. It was scary. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 22:10:25 I miss the dancing - rock'n'roll and tango! And the guitar music!
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ElfPuddle on 2006 June 23, 22:13:15 For some odd reason, I DON'T miss the late-night creepy calls. Must be why I have the phone hack now. ::)
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 June 23, 22:14:58 I don't miss any of the old music, seeing as it is in my game.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: buddha pest on 2006 June 23, 22:16:50 The only sound in TS2 that I really love a lot is the little music that plays when someone loses their job.
I don't mind screwing up a chance card as much when I get to hear the neat little tune. I did have the old neighborhood/build/buy mode music in my game for awhile. I took it out after awhile though because I wondered if it was slowing down the loading time. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Ness on 2006 June 23, 22:17:31 I miss the gnome workbench :(
and claire the bear who would come and steal your honey. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 22:20:38 And Carlos the gypsy guitarist who would serenade you date for a 5 simoleon tip!
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Jelenedra on 2006 June 23, 22:28:11 I miss all of the Hot Date interactions and NPCs.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 22:33:07 Only one I don't miss is Basil the Chef - I had a broken portal problem on some of my lots, and Basil would turn up at the house and go and stand in front of the stove and nothing would move him! Never did figure out why it was always Basil, though!
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Jelenedra on 2006 June 23, 22:37:58 Hmm, never had that issue. :D
I miss all the House Party NPCs too. Stripper cake anyone? Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Ness on 2006 June 23, 22:46:36 hmmm... I must be mistaken then, I just distinctly recall the green sets being all over one of my unleashed community lots... and I never redecorate them!
Possibly another case like the hot date lots - they would be decorated differently depending on what expansion packs were already installed when hot date went in. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 23, 22:49:56 It was really wierd - there'd be two or three Downtown npcs standing at the portal, and then Basil would invade the house. Invited guests either didn't arrive because the portal was blocked, or couldn't leave and stood at the portal till they collapsed! I think I sorted it in the end because I replaced my PC and had to reinstall everything anyway!
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: skandelouslala on 2006 June 24, 00:41:08 I miss all the House Party NPCs too. Stripper cake anyone? Hahaha that could be so much better in TS2 now. I miss the superstar objects the most..but that could just be me Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: kacidama on 2006 June 24, 01:01:45 I miss the massage tables and mud baths from superstar - would make a great business opportunity as a spa/gym.
Also the ceiling light/fan and the visitors bringing cake/chocolates/pot plant. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 24, 07:35:07 i could mesh self-flushing terlet
i think on this week end ... but i'm looking for some picture of it Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 25, 08:33:40 I miss the massage tables and mud baths from superstar - would make a great business opportunity as a spa/gym. Also the ceiling light/fan and the visitors bringing cake/chocolates/pot plant. on MTS2 i've found a Celling Fan :) http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=85216 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=85216) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 June 25, 08:38:11 the visitors bringing cake/chocolates/pot plant. I DEFINITELY don't miss the trash they'd bring over. Why can't they throw their trash away at their own house instead of trying to foist it off on their friends as presents?Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Jorenne on 2006 June 25, 09:21:01 Eh I'm weird but the thing I miss most from TS1 is them singing the babies to sleep :-\ Almost two years of TS2 and I still haven't gotten over not being able to sing the babies to sleep
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Ness on 2006 June 25, 09:58:25 eep! I'd forgotten all about that until you mentioned it! I guess sims 2 babies settle much better than sims 1 babies.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 June 25, 12:16:26 More likely the lack of logic in trying to induce someone to sleep by shrieking horribly in their ears finally occurred to them. That, and whether or not sim-babies sleep turns out to be wholly irrelevant in TS2, since they sleep whenever they run out of energy, or really, whenever they feel like, and it makes no difference at all since they don't do anything anyway.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 27, 12:21:21 maybe useing the stove's gas is a more fast way to sleep a baby ;D ;D ;D
what is an "self-flushing terlet" ? Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Lythdan on 2006 June 27, 13:32:16 A toilet that flushes automatically when it is used.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Jelenedra on 2006 June 27, 14:50:20 Like the ones that are real popular at movie theatres nowadays because it cuts down on people trying to clog the toilet with paper towels.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 June 27, 16:14:42 All this talk aside, no one has actually meshed and then screenshotted the terlet as depicted from TS1. Therefore, it isn't happening.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: cwieberdink on 2006 June 27, 17:28:09 All this talk aside, no one has actually meshed and then screenshotted the terlet as depicted from TS1. Therefore, it isn't happening. Vaporware. C Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: dusty on 2006 June 29, 11:15:28 Eh I'm weird but the thing I miss most from TS1 is them singing the babies to sleep :-\ Almost two years of TS2 and I still haven't gotten over not being able to sing the babies to sleep me too! I used to find the male sims humming "Amazing Grace" very soothing ... I mostly had dad-sims caring for babies just because I liked their singing more. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 29, 11:56:54 All this talk aside, no one has actually meshed and then screenshotted the terlet as depicted from TS1. Therefore, it isn't happening. i'm sorry if to have a job that take me away from meshing object for TS2 ... but i need to eat sometime and i've to pay taxes too (many many alot alot alot of .. in italy) .. so i need to work first and, if i've some times, i'll mesh :P Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 June 29, 12:01:13 i'm sorry if to have a job that take me away from meshing object for TS2 ... I wasn't aware you had volunteered. I was simply stating nobody has done it yet, so it's not happening. Quite simple, really. No rush.but i need to eat sometime and i've to pay taxes too (many many alot alot alot of .. in italy) .. so i need to work first and, if i've some times, i'll mesh :P Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 29, 14:44:39 it's a quite day.. it's pretty done :)
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 30, 11:57:47 (http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4923/snapshot51a8529a31b058645zz.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/Picture9.jpg) *** i've to fix a pair of things but we are pretty near to the end :D Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 June 30, 12:25:36 Well, there's the obvious defect that the terlet seat appears to be fused, meaning it cannot be moved up and down. Something must have destroyed the "bone" structure that enabled it to function. Also, the file was full of extraneous garbage. When you re-clone it this time, don't select the box for copying the animations, they are unnecessary and will grossly inflate the file size. Also, the original had a more round bowl and and seat, and the back tank was definitely thicker.
Lemme know when you've made the relevant updates, I already have the code work ready. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 30, 17:33:09 fixed the mesh, and the texture size
(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8396/selfflush7zz.jpg) here you can see a preview... Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: ElfPuddle on 2006 June 30, 19:38:52 Very Nice!
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 June 30, 20:01:20 This one is really nice. What is the poly count.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: blubug on 2006 June 30, 20:32:46 It seems pretty low, looking at the pointy circle bowl, (then again you never know- it may have hidden polys inside) but I love low poly objects, I don't mind a not-so smooth spheric bowl at all! (I know I sound retarded, today is one of those days)
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 June 30, 21:06:28 ehe.. the inside circle .. is a mistake, i forget to use smooth between the corner.. ::)
btw when J.M. made his part i will fix the details :) some infos on the file file size 512KB. texture are in 512x512 (dirty and clean) 1332 faces / 1656 vertex p.s. i'm realy glad that you like it ;D Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 June 30, 21:37:10 That isn't bad! Could we get a picture of the wireframe?
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 July 01, 08:13:24 and here you have it ;D
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3356/selfflushwire7it.jpg) looks like the game didin't like a smooth > 45° it's pretty strange 'cause in 3DStudio i see the right smooth on "inside circle" but in the game there ins't smooth :-\ Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 July 01, 09:20:35 about NuMica Kitcken Counter i think that a recolor should be ok...
you will find it .. HERE (http://www.max3d.it/SimSite/stuff.asp?s=0&id=2) (http://www.max3d.it/SimSite/Stuff/Max3D-TS1-NuMica-Kitchen-Counter-tumb.jpg) (http://www.max3d.it/SimSite/stuff/Max3D-TS1-NuMica-Kitchen-Counter-full.jpg) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 01, 09:51:48 Okay, looking good so far. Now, somebody mentioned that the light on it would light up when somebody used it. I think I have a pretty good idea how to go about doing that. Can anyone get pictures of the TS1 terlet in action, and when it lights up?
Max: Can you add a "mesh group" and "materials" (append them to the mesh groups and materials) section, for the light, specifically, and then texture that light accordingly? You may wish to consult the "burglar alarm" as an example of an object doing this. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 July 01, 13:36:56 ehe.. i'm not shure that i know how to link texture to a mesh.. but i'll try
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 July 01, 14:22:38 Sorry about the mix up, the gray spot behind the sim doesn't light up, but on the side when the sim is sitting on it their is a pink spot.
The wireframe looks nice and clean. Thanks for doing this. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/Picture2.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/a73728ba.jpg) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 July 01, 15:26:21 there also some difference from the tumbnail and the real object.. :\
if you look the display it's a bit different ... I'll draw the display like the one in the game and i'll animate it too... thnx alot for the resources Simsbaby :) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 July 01, 15:28:13 No problem, if you need them for any of the other objects I can extract them for you.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 July 01, 17:19:27 ok i put the link of the file here to so maybe some 1 can help me to fix the texture :(
simpe say that the texture of the "display" is missing, but, obviously the texture is present ... so any kind of help will be welcome ;) here are the file.. compressed and uncompressed .. plz take it only if you can help us to complete our project, actually it didn't show the animated texture <snip> bulgar will be presecuted i'm not responsable for any kind of crash, pc burning or curse 'cause this is a beta and not-working plumbing Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 July 02, 08:44:53 I don't think this is the right approach. I had a slightly different idea, if you could get the side display thing, if you can even make it out, and incorporate it into the clean/dirty textures for an "on" and "off" mode for each.
However, I can barely see it and certainly can't make out what it is. And TS1 doesn't seem to have it in any higher resolution, you can't zoom in any closer. Perhaps we should just pronounce the object as I presently have it assembled "done" and do the official release. Unless you can tell what exactly that is. Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 July 02, 10:01:55 ehe.. for sure 16 framess are better than 2 frames...
but probably it's more easy to manage 2 frame than 16.. so, ok i'll upload a new version of the mesh Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 July 02, 17:52:47 Toilet stuff Pes wanted.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: starrling on 2006 July 02, 20:08:47 Wow, Max, nice job! Your other objects are nice too - thank you!
And Simsbaby... ACK! Where'd yer long blond hair go? Ya went all nearly-elder on me there :P Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: Simsbaby on 2006 July 02, 20:50:15 That is not me, that is Bob Newbie when his arm broke. :P
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/simsbaby/c236cd16.jpg) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 July 02, 21:18:00 LOOOL simsbaby ;D ;D ;D
@ starrling we are just waiting for some news form JM the mesh is done with light on texture and light off.. in both state (dirty and clean) ;) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: starrling on 2006 July 02, 21:58:59 That is not me, that is Bob Newbie when his arm broke. :P Oh good! You scared the hell outta me for a minute there ;D And Max - the terlet is up - check the Firing Range! Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: cwieberdink on 2006 July 05, 11:46:49 on MTS2 i've found a Celling Fan :) http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=85216 (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=85216) C Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: MaximilianPS on 2006 July 07, 11:11:08 ](http://www.max3d.it/SimSite/stuff/Ts1-Iron%20and%20Green-full.jpg) (http://www.max3d.it/SimSite/stuff.asp?id=1)
you can find it.. here (http://www.max3d.it/SimSite/stuff.asp?id=1) Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: kacidama on 2006 July 07, 14:02:42 Thanks Max ;D
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: liegenschonheit on 2006 July 07, 19:20:31 I got that earlier today on MTS2 and haven't got a chance to play with it yet. From the screenshots, it looks fab though. I'm really loving all this Sims stuff you've been doing for Sims2. If only Maxis had thought of it :P
^_^ Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: blubug on 2006 July 07, 20:42:42 Maxis actually promised to make some Sims objects available for download at their site before the base game came out. I guess they meant the tall shrub. That's the only thing they did a remake of. That's why I registered the game, I remember being happy that I would be able to DL a lot of stuff from Sims1 made for sims2 more often. They don't make anything worthwhile, and I'm not happy with an object a season. They probably want to push everything hideous in EP's :)
Anyway, there's always better stuff on player-sites. I love downloading, thanks Max! Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: jrd on 2006 July 07, 22:36:29 Maxis doesn't even include the website downloads in the expansion packs anymore.
Title: Re: Back 2 the future Post by: blubug on 2006 July 07, 23:19:19 Yup. So you buy a legal game and register it. And get 'kewl' downloads from the original site. And have a right to bitch about the bugs on the BBS. Slinking away now, getting off topic.
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