More Awesome Than You!

I have this Sim, Rosalie Bass, who was an SS dormie.  She is now sharing a house with her fiance, Robert Broke (Brandi's third) and another ex-Uni couple.  They've only been in the neighbourhood a couple of days and Rosalie knows very few people, having previously only lived on campus.  Today, she was the 10.30 am walkby on one of my lots.  At the time, the wife was at work, the due-to-go-to-Uni-that-evening teenage daughter was at school, so was her due-to-become-a-teenager-that-evening sister; their toddler sister was playing with the rabbit head and the father was in bed.  As he was fully energised I woke him up and was just about to get him to greet Rosalie when I realised that the only options open were normal socialising ones.  I knew that no one in the house had ever met her, so it seemed strange when she simply walked onto the lot and started playing on the swing.

Although she has 10 in Outgoing, I didn't realise Sims like this would walk onto lots of people they'd never met - is this normal?  What was even stranger was that when she'd finished swinging, she walked into the house and started making herself a grilled cheese sandwich.  After that, she chatted to the Dad for a bit, then went and had a bath!  To my amazement, later that evening a message came up saying her car pool would arrive in an hour and sure enough, it did.  I thought that would be that, but amazingly she came home again when her shift was finished.  She had another bath, then went to bed.  She only stayed in the bed a short while, then got up for another swing.  When I left the lot, she was on her way back to bed again.

I checked and she still sees Robert and the other couple as her fellow household members, she isn't shown on the family panel and has to be made selectable like any other visitor to check her.  There were 3 or 4 other visitors on the lot that day, one of them the 3-bolt best friend of the wife, and none of them behaved that way, so I can't see that it's a mod or it would presumably affect everybody.  I've never had a Sim act like this, especially the carpool part, which is very strange (she wasn't selectable at the time).  The way I see it, unless there's no bed available for her, she will stay there forever.  In fact, if she passes by anymore houses, she could end-up living in half-a-dozen.  Would do wonders for her promotions, though.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that while she was on the swing, the Repoman turned-up (my fault for forgetting to get them to pay the bills) and she got a memory of it.  I don't think visiting Sims normally get that, do they?

Wow! *laughs* that's funny. I have had fully outgoing sims come over and get naked in a complete stranger's hot tub and then walk naked into the kitchen to make themself a bowl of mac & cheese. That with the carpool is way more than I've ever seen before though!

Ancient, your sims have the best stories.  I just love to read anything you write about your game!!!

C

I've had similar sitautions too - though not quite like that. :P It's usually with family members though. I remember one, I had a family of 3 sisters, each living in their own houses, and had families etc. One of the sisters, Mara I think, constantly visited her other sisters lot, without ringing the bell etc. I can't remember what I did to solve it though - I think I may have the just deleted the entire fmaily and neighbourhood, lol.

Lol!  ;D I have to agree with faemidwife... er cwieberdink... dangit, can't keep these names straight, they keeps changin on me. Heehee. ;)

But yeah, you definitely have the best stories. I have never witnessed this. Are you sure she wasn't friends with any of the family members? Maybe she was a scheduled visitor. I'm not sure when sims get scheduled to visit though. It could be one of those odd quirks that she just happened to be flagged in a certain way and the game treats those flagged sims differently?

I have had a very outgoing sim, who was friends with one of the sims in my household, just walk in through the front door without being greeted. I noticed this the first time, when I had my sim invite her over, just for an aspiration boost before heading off to school that mornin. I thought, it wouldn't 'hurt' to give him the boost, and she would just show up and leave. I had no idea that outgoing sims didn't need to be greeted, so imagine my surprise when she showed up, walked through the front door, and immediately started making herself 'at home' and decided to play billiards. :P The second time I noticed, she wasn't even invited. She was a walkby, and she just came right on in. However, she was a best friend of one of my sims, so I know that was certainly the case.

I have had different sims behave differently after being invited to spend the nite, and I never really bothered to check the personality traits, but some sims will tend to stay the nite and then leave the next morning of their own volition, while other sims kind of make themselves at home, almost indefinitely, until I kick them out/tell them to go home manually. It truly is odd. In my old 'hood, I had the adult version of my partner living on his own at first (I eventually gave him a psycho ex roomie, based on our own real life experiences  :-X). My sim self was a teen, still living at home with the family. This was the best way to reflect the actual age difference, and I had created us before Uni was released (my partner and I actually met while I was in Uni - he is 14 years my senior). Anyways, I obviously needed to use JenFlower's Woohoo Teens (this was way back when the InTeen was just a twinkling glimmer in jase's kitten killin eyes  ;D) in order for my sim self and my partner's sim to have any sort of relationship. Whenever I played his household, and invited teen sim self me over, I would spend the night and stay over indefinitely. I would even go to school and come back. :P The thing was, I had played that game and made him have another teen lover, ahem 'just for fun' ;) but that sim would up and leave the very next morning, usually with enough time before the school bus normally came. It was like he had to sneak back home in time to get ready for school and catch the bus by his house instead. Lol. Whereas, apparently, my school bus knew to come pick me up by my partner's house. How nice and convenient for me.  :D

Ste

Sims with 10 outgoing do invite themselves into homes rather often, but I've never seen any that actually moved in. That's pretty funny.

I too find what's happening in your game very entertaining. 

I also did saw some Sims invites theirself in but I never one kind of move-in on its own like it seems to have happened to you.

Really funny story. :)

To answer Ste: No, she definitely wasn't friends with anyone on the lot.  She didn't even KNOW them, that's the weird part.  I have seen loads of Sims who are best friends/family with lot residents walk in and make themselves at home, but never a total stranger.  To be honest, I think she's the only Sim in my new Pleasantview who has 10 in Outgoing - I will have to make some more and see what happens!

As far as her actually moving in is concerned, I don't think she's really done that because as I said, she's not shown as resident there, but I can see her staying forever as long as there's a bed for her to sleep in, so I suppose it'd be the same as moving in.  Maybe she wants to take the place of the oldest daughter who'll have gone to Uni next time I play the lot.  Or it may be that she's decided to have a holiday - the lot is by the sea and totally different to all other lots in the neighbourhood.  It was originally part of another neighbourhood and it's more like a sort of holiday home than a normal house.  Not that she would really know that, but I will pretend she does.

She's your Kato Kaelin.

I love it when sims are outgoing, because when you invite them over you don't have to bother greeting them.

< lazy simmer

I once had a sim with only 3 or 4 outgoing who kept showing up in EVERY SINGLE home of anyone she was even slightly aquainted with.

She was a former hostess in a NL restaurant who married into a family of mine. I sort of ditched that house for awhile when she was pregnant, and she kept popping into everyone's homes regularly despite her delicate condition and eventually even got her first and/or second bump while at someone else's house.

Really odd though. I've never seen a shy sim visit so aggressively before.

Someone mentioned that my Self Sim does this in their neighbourhood and I only have 2 or 3 in Outgoing.  It's totally alien to what I do in real life - were it not for the kids I'd be a hermit!!!

I've hand sims do this before. Stupid Katherine kept waltzing into her brother in law's house everyday. She didn't even KNOW the guy. But since she was coming over every day and spending a lot of time there...let's just say she came to know him very well indeed *cough*. :D

I must admit although I have hundreds of sims with full outgoing, they've never walked into a house of sims they're not very friendly with - if they've only met them and get invited over, they ring the front door bell!  Are you sure this sim was a dormie and not a streaker?  They do occasionally walk by a lot in uni, normally  clothed, and your sim could invite them in and get to know them, and you'de never realise - but something of the entering strangers lots culd still be their in their coding.

And talk about making yourself welcom - in one game, Lilith walked by don's house, and Don started chatting to her.  He greeted her and off she went to the hot-tub - where she stayed from Friday afternoon until late Sunday night, apart from the occasional meal/toilet break! (Since I use gnomon's flamingo of contentment, she would bnever have got completely exhausted.)  Needless to say, by the end of the weekend, if I'd had move-in-all installed, Don could have had her move in, no probs, and she would no doubt have been a much happier teenager!

The only Sim of mine who randomly walks into other's homes was a mascot in his former life.

That's why I think this one of Ancient Sim's may have been a streaker.  If they were any of the others the evidence would be in their wardrobe.

LMAO Ancient Sim - I thought I had weird sims.  I have had Pamela Landry use the swing on some of my lots without being greeted but she never moved in!
Several times one of my *daughters* would visit a sibling on a different lot and play a musical instrument or use the hot tub without my seeing her and the only clue that she was there was when the pop-up *It's late I should go* came on screen.

Unless you have "nobogartingswings" and "nobusking", these are common occurrences with visiting outgoing sims, but since OFB they don't seem to use the love-tub - don't know about ordinary ones, though, my sims can't afford them!

I noticed this, and I think it might have something to do with JM's asprecharge hack, although it's not specifically related to OFB.  The RTFM says:


I tried placing a regular hot tub in my sims' home business to see if they would use that, and I think I did see a couple of sims using it.

I'm not sure if I tweaked Don's personality, but it seems like my sims never have to greet him when he comes over.  Of course, he knows just about everyone in the neighborhood.  His son is the same way, although it took a lot of encouraging, because he inherited Bella's shyness.  It just wasn't right for Don's successor to be shy.  ;)

I've witnessed what others have described about outgoing sims coming in the house without being greeted, but it's usually family.  Once, I had Dustin and Angela's son come over, walk up to the crib, and take the baby out and play with it.  I was surprised to see this, and I forgot he was related to the family I was playing.  ::)  The baby's mother was Brandi's daughter.  What gets me about outgoing sims is how they are always doing the Sim version of the Fonz to everyone (Hey!!!) even their  sleeping babies in the crib when they pass by or go in to change their diaper!  It gets rather annoying after a while.

They do it to the stupid robots too.  It's really funny seeing them do that Fonz thing to a CleanBot or SentryBot...

She was trying to get you to play her lot so she could give birth; who wants to be perpetually pregnant? ;D

That reminds me...I have a couple of pregnant sims to play.

In Veronaville, I had a Uni Sim that I had never seen before(I thought that I had seen them all) walk on the lot in the main hood and get naked in the hot tub while one of the Sims were with her boyfriends.  He wouldn't leave.  I checked him out cause I was in the main hood and I new that he wasn't a main hood townie and NL hadn't been released yet.  He had never met anyone before and that was my third group of Uni Sims to go to College.  I guess he got really bored.

Sure he wasn't a professor?

No he was a ss member how wasn't called to duty yet.  His panel said he was a young adult and he didn't have any college info like the SS members.  He had no one on his relationship panel either.

Seems very odd, but sometimes I think the game uses a random sim because a certain action has been generated to happen - for example, it comes up as a random thing that your sim's dustbin should be kicked over, and a sim that your sim hasn't met is picked at random to walkby and kick it over, and in a DAC hood, that probably means one of your own sims.  Now, when you check that sim, you find he/she isn't really into kicking dustbins over at all, they are perfectly happy, and in gold aspiration etc.

In one such hood, the maid who worked for my cloned Don Lothario came over in the middle of the night in a furious state and kicked his trashcan - and the only time he'd ever spoken to her was to give her a 100 simoleon tip. 

Actually, how it works is that any random sim who walks by, may randomly kick the trash can. This is seperate from a furious sim who arrives for the specific purpose of kicking the trashcan. Think the former as being more like a drive-by shooting.

I think that's bqasically what I meant, the sim walking by is a random selection, and the trashcan kicking is a random action,, brought together in the same sim. 

But tell me why, this maid, who wasn't furious with Don, just around 0/0 when I checked in SimPE, did the whole furious bit (and also some dormie somehow crossed the boundary and did the same thing) if the game didn't have some method of generating this action for no apparent reason.

Mine definitely wasn't a streaker or a mascot, she was an SS member created by the game, who eventually got herself moved-in as a dormie, then became playable.  Oddly enough, she was on another lot yesterday, but she did leave that one, probably because it was a wedding and she was invited, although she didn't leave until a long time after it finished (well, neither did anyone else, they never do).

They do in my game - soon as the car arrives, off they go!  And I recently had a pregnant sim go off and sit in the car.  New hubby got side-tracked so she sat in the car for an hour - no pop-up saying she was a bit too far gone - then got out again full of energy!

I have far too many outgoing Sims that barge in uninvited and make themselves pretty much at home regardless of their relationship (or lack of) with the homeowners.
It often seems that if I make them selectable, they'll never leave and will bathe, cook and sleep as if they live there (even after I make them unselectable)
I either run them outside, remove the door and drop their motives to red (unselectable-they'll eventually leave) or tell a resident Sim to get rid of them. I prefer the first (it's funnier and it doesn't add another 'acquaintance' that my Sims will be dying to befriend, best friend and more)

It's odd, I've never seen it happen with total strangers!  Making them selectable, of course, means they can't leave.  Why not just use Inge's teleporter shrub and clear all visitors?  Or use TJ's Visitor controller and ban them from the lot?

Happens to me with total strangers quite often and I do ban them. That seems to be very effective.

Funny, I've had lots where the family was living outdoors and passing sims would wander all over the lot, but they never used anything belonging to the family (apart from reading the newspaper.)

I used to not have probs with visiters sleeping in my Sim's beds, but I must have picked up some hack that is increasing odds of that.  I have a hack that allows a visiter to use the shower maybe it is making them feel more at home.  In my Greek houses,I have the autonomous exercise machines so I wanted visiters to be able to shower--I also have a all-in-one maid that keeps food on the table.  Now,they are also sleeping in the beds.  I clear the lot when it gets late, but I'm concerned about corrupting items like the hot tub or beds if a Sim just disappears while using it.  I try to be careful and get them out of it first.  The outgoing Sims are really bad about staying for a long time,in Matyville(forgot who it was),this Sim stayed in a home for 5 days till I finally deleted her.

Well, if you ban them with Tj's Visitor controller, they don't just disappear, they get up from whatever they are doing first.  And Clearing all visitors with Inge's teleporter shrub as never caused me a problem.  The only thing that will normally corrupt your object is deleting the sim using it, at least in my experience.

I have had parties at Uni when, after using the bath or shower, Don Lothario has complained that he was asked to stay the night but there's nowhere for him to sleep, although all beds at the time were empty, so this behaviour of having a quick nap in someone's bed uninvited seems a bit odd.

That would explain what started happening in my game this weekend.  One of my sims married a host from the Crypto Niteclub and every time I play another family in the neighbourhood, he will eventually come sauntering into their house and act like he owned the place.  The only other time I had a sim who was quite as invavsive was when Yesenia Zaphod was in college.  She was 10 outgoing and would show up at her brother's house everytime I played and and then never leave. 

I might start marrying in more hosts then. She was driving me batty, but it was quirky and funny since she was normally so shy.

IIRC when she'd get invited to someone's house, she was one of those sims that you didn't have to greet when they arrived, just like a full outgoing sim.

I wonder if she ever got nekkid in the hot tub. I can't remember.

I guess being a hostess forces you to be social even if you'd rather not. I could never do it.

I should create a "Go Away" doormat that causes sims that show up uninvited and try to self-greet themselves like that to be told to screw off.

Or maybe one that gave options of who to allow to just walk in?

Sentry Bot should attack.

Just think, though, of a single romance sim, who has two or three girlfriends who will all just walk into his house when they feel like it.  A doormat which allowed him to say which day(s) each was to be allowed to wak in would leave him a very happy sim!  And he could program in free days when he could pursue other interests/sims!

That would be hysterical though.

Next time I have a bachelor, I'm going to try to orchestrate that with even more than three girlfriends.

Romance sims and their dramas are my favorite. My thing right now is a house with three unmarried sisters who share about 5-10 boyfriends amongst themselves. Oh the fury. They're having kids by these guys too, and it's just getting ugly.

Process Denied:  If you get an object that is stuck in use, all you have to do is enable boolprop testingcheats, then shift-click on the offending item and Force Error.  Then click Reset.  Sometimes an object won't have the "in use" flag turned off if a sim is not able to disengage from it properly.  I used to get this all the time, but I haven't gotten it in a while, until the other day when a sim wasn't able to sit on the sofa. 

I've actually had that happen.  Jason Burb (Jennifer and John's son before they broke up) is a romance sim, and was in the hot tub with his latest conquest.  When they woohooed I heard the good ol' boing sound, and saw another of his girlfriends had been sitting in the living room watching TV.  I know he didn't invite her, and I didn't notice her wander onto the lot and make herself at home.  It was a fun bitch-slapping fest after that. :)

Now, if he'd had a day-of-the-week welcome mat, she wouldn't have been there, because it was a Tuesday, and her day was Friday!

Maybe it should be a VERY expensive mat though, at least a couple of thousand simoleons, or maybe 30,000 aspiration points!  Perhaps it could be made of some rare substance, like angels' wings or unicorn-hair?

:)

It was actually fortuitous, because she was a family sim he hooked up with as a teen, and I didn't intend for them to be together long-term anyway. So her catching him cheating probably saved her from the 'fall out of love' fear.

I know it is easy to reset objects but when you have  hacked objects or a complicated object like a hot tub I sometimes wonder if something could happen to it.  The InSIMinator also lets a Sim get out of the chair first but I noticed that they just disappear out of the tub.  I never have had a tub get corrupted by doing that, but I wonder if that could be a problem. I have had to replace Lizz's waterbed when I would delete the love sofa cause it would mess with the waterbed's options.  I also have to replace the all-in-one NPC stove when I screw with the contols under certain circumstances.  The money thing can be hacked but it's a pain to have to reprogram it.

The love sofa?  Do you mean Shaklin's love bed, or is this something different?

Well, I went back to play the lot Rosalie had wandered onto and she'd totally vanished, no sign of her at all.  Merola's mind-control mirror couldn't see her, so I suppose the game realised it had got itself into a bit of a muddle and forcibly ejected the poor girl.  Went to play her lot afterwards and she was functioning normally, so no harm appears to have been done.  I'll have to watch for her on other lots now, to see if she does it again.

yes,the bed