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Title: What is the best way of making a Clone Family?
Post by: baratron on 2006 May 31, 00:47:43
So, I want to make a family that are all clones of the same sim. I already have one, but that family has 6 clones of the same adult sim. This time, I want to have an adult, a teenager and a child, all with identical genetics, and marked as sisters in the game.

What's the best way of doing this, considering that Create-A-Sim won't let you make children without parents? I was going to make the initial adult sim in BodyShop, because that gives more options. But how can I make her sisters? I'm worried about simply making 3 copies of the adult sim in C-A-S, then aging some of them down in the game - won't that lead to children having LTW wonkinesses?  ???

Anyone know?


Title: Re: What is the best way of making a Clone Family?
Post by: jrd on 2006 May 31, 00:54:43
I would make the child normally in CAS (forgetting about cloning), then after creating the family save the nhood and quit.
Then replace the child DNA and facial structure with that of the adult using SimPE.

Same should work for the teen, although there you don't need to fear for LTW issues.


Title: Re: What is the best way of making a Clone Family?
Post by: akatonbo on 2006 May 31, 01:00:25
Create the clones as two teens and a child, with a dummy Sim as parent to all of them, and then kill off the parent (or whatever other solution appeals to you) and age one of the teens to adult?


Title: Re: What is the best way of making a Clone Family?
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 May 31, 02:45:38
You could just use Inge's shrub to make the adult into a townie!  Also, if you make the family as an adult, a teen and a child, then before you actually move them from the Family Bin into a house, close your game and use SimPE just to change the relationships between them from parent/child to siblings, I don't think you'd encounter a problem.


Title: Re: What is the best way of making a Clone Family?
Post by: SaraMK on 2006 May 31, 02:48:10
Create them all as adults and then use the aging cheat (or a hack) to age down two of them. You'll need to age them down to toddlers and then let them age up. That avoids problems.


Title: Re: What is the best way of making a Clone Family?
Post by: baratron on 2006 June 01, 00:52:19
Create them all as adults and then use the aging cheat (or a hack) to age down two of them. You'll need to age them down to toddlers and then let them age up. That avoids problems.

Are we sure that definitely avoids the "dangling SWAF (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=4249.)" issue, though? That's the one I'm afraid of.

I've only seen it in conjunction with deleteallcharacters (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=4439.0), but then again, Pescado only named it on May 12th, so maybe we don't know everything about it yet...


Title: Re: What is the best way of making a Clone Family?
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2006 June 01, 00:57:02
I can't see how you could get any dangling SWAFs if you use my method. 


Title: Re: What is the best way of making a Clone Family?
Post by: SaraMK on 2006 June 01, 02:36:13
Create them all as adults and then use the aging cheat (or a hack) to age down two of them. You'll need to age them down to toddlers and then let them age up. That avoids problems.
Are we sure that definitely avoids the "dangling SWAF (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=4249.)" issue, though? That's the one I'm afraid of.

I've only seen it in conjunction with deleteallcharacters (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=4439.0), but then again, Pescado only named it on May 12th, so maybe we don't know everything about it yet...

I've made families this way before, and I usually check the neighborhood file for any weirdness, but no, I don't know for sure that all problems are avoided.

However, this would not be a "dangling" SWAF problem, would it? That one's related to sims inheriting SWAFs that don't belong to them. The sims (in this case, just the child) would have its own SWAF entry.

Having toddlers or children get LTWs or weird (age inappropriate) wants might be a dangling SWAF problem, but having a child or toddler with an LTW due to de-aging would most likely not be the same type of problem. Not necessarily harmless though....

Someone should do some experimenting and find out for sure.