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I moved in a playable Uni Sim in with my Sim, and his college meter won't go any higher than the first level, even though he's got all required skills.

I couldn't see why it was like this, so I used the twojeffs college adjuster and maxed out his meter.  I figured it didn't matter anyway, since I wasn't going to send him to his final exam until Bianca was ready and maxed, and I always use the College Rampage to max them out.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/BlueSoupForYou/Sims%202/Collegeglitch.jpg)

This pic was taken after I maxed his meter with the adjuster, and I did check and it was maxed, but next time I looked, it was back like this.  Any ideas how to fix this?

This is exactly what happened to me on several occasions with the Brights, particularly Jane Stacks.  In the end, even with the adjuster bumping them up to 4.0 every semester, I still had to cheat on their final grade to make them graduate Summa cum Laude!  (And they worked ten times as hard as Stella Sterling, a pleasure sim, who got her cum Laude with absolutely no problem at all!

I tend now to think that Maxis has deliberately tampered with some of these sims to make this happen, as I moved the Brights to a new house, but nothing worked.  As soon as they moved back to Pleasantview, they seemed to get jobs and promotions without any trouble, though.

I got really mad about the whole thing, I don't like cheating per se, but when Maxis cheats, I feel no compunction at cheating too!

Are you using a fixed executable ("no cd") perhaps? This seems to be caused by at least one of those files. However some have reported it with the original exe as well (I had it with both a nocd and the original exe + OFB CD in the drive).
Now that I'm using a mini-image to play FFS the bug has gone.

I am playing it a Daemon tools thingie (dunno anything about fixed executable though - it's an image of my disk).

Anyway, I am getting so frustrated with it - the application has crashed numerous times now, always when I try to use the College Adjuster on him.  I'm going to re-download it, but I wonder if that's the problem - I'm not getting an error report.

Anyway, I've played them through semesters upon semesters now, I figure they would have been Seniors on the verge of graduation now, so I'm just going to cheat them to finish and let them go home.

Don't blame you, Blue!  And I got the problem and I don't play without the CD!  But at least the college Adjuster never crashed the game!  funnily enough, though, when I played Mitch (in at least two games) he never had that problem, so it must be an error that affects different Maxis Uni sims for different people!

When I use TJs adjuster to max skills enough so that what they need is covered to get the bar full its ok until my sim goes to take a finals then even if they should have more than enough skills it does the same thing.

Well, it keeps happening - every time I press Shift-Click on the College Adjuster, and adjust his class performance meter, the game crashes.  If I use it on her, it's fine.   :-\

Same thing happened to me when I moved George McCarthy's dormie girlfriend in with him and used the college adjuster to make her the same age; her meter never showed the proper level except for when she was at the SS lot. She graduated Summa Cum Laude while in the red, so I wouldn't worry about it  ;)

I don't know what to suggest.  Have you tried moving them to another lot?

I think I've only once played La Tour with Pleasantview once, the first time after I installed Uni, and had endless problems, but I never played Mitch then.  The times I have played him, he's been fine, but I haven't been playing Pleasantview.


And sadiebutterfly, when I had the problems with the Brights, they've never, ever graduated summa cum laude except with the help of the adjuster.

I think the main problem may be that Mitch is linked by Maxis to (can't remember her name offhand) the female knowledge sim who lives alone.  You've broken the link and something else got broken too.

I've had similar issues and I don't use a nocd with the Sims. Once with a Uni student I moved into a Sorority and a couple of times with Uni CAS sims. It's annoying not to be able to see the accurate meter unless I'd take the sim to a community lot but a couple of assignments, the term paper and attend the class at least one ensures a good grade. TJ's college adjuster worked great for me too if I wanted to graduate them quickly. All of my YA's with this problem graduated fine with at least a 3.5 GPA.

But I'm a little confused on Shift-Clicking on the college adjuster Blue. The one I have all I have to do is click on it (no shift) select Semeter and pick the grade level. Am I dense and missing a new awesome version? Or something I've been completely blind to all along? I wouldn't be surprised, I am rather scattered at times.

I second Zephyr's suggestion that you try moving them to another lot if you haven't already tried that. Or maybe try having Mitch go to his final from a community lot. You could try the longer (and more annoying I'm sure) plan of having him do a few assignments, the term paper, go to class then use Pescado's College Clock to see if you can get Mitch to even go to his final.

You can do that, or if you Shift-click on it, there is a Set College meter option.

I'm going to try moving them.

Good Luck, Blue!  Hope it works!

Well, I seem to have fixed it somehow.  First I set their college meters to 0 hours remaining in SimPE, then moved them to a dorm and instead of using the debug mode of the College Adjuster, I set their semester grades to A+, and they went to their finals and graduated and everything.  I still don't know what happened and why it broke, but at least they've graduated and can go home and wait for her parents to die and leave her all their money.  ;D

Seems like Mitch has fallen on his feet!  I'm glad you managed to sort it out!

Same here, I'm relieved that it's now worked out.

Yes, it's so sad when they work really hard (although I'd be surprised if Mitch did!) and then something happens to spoil it for them!  Like in the old days before TJ made his first final exam fix, and you'd send them off all bright eyed and bushy tailed for their exam, and they'd come straight back again without taking the exam at all!

Blue - I've had that happen to some of my sims and I wasn't using the college adjustor (or any other hacks). I made sure they completed their term paper and at least 1 assignment and went to the final exam and they did ok. 
Eventually the lot became so bugged I had to move them all out as it crashed my game. 




btw Mitch is happily married to my youngest *daughter*, they are now elders, have 3 children at college (well the twins just graduated but haven't had their party yet) the youngest is a teen and he is about to achieve his LTW of being a Hall of Famer!  There was a glitch when he cheated on her with her sister-in-law.  He is still a slob though and the boys take after him!

 

I read that wrong!  ;D

This happens to me with all sims I put in Uni.
The problem for me started either with the ofbpatch or with ffs.

Well, I found the answer a couple of days ago.   You'll find it in the thread "I think I know why!"  the ones I had the problem with were the Brights from SimState, and I've always had the problem, so it was bugging me like crazy!

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=4467.0 (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=4467.0)

I have both the OFB patch and FFS and I'm not having any issues with pre made uni sims and stuck grade bars.  I am using LFT, I don't know if that makes a difference, I suspect that the sims with issues come from sim state?

Well, Mitch Indie didn't, and Blue Soup had awful problems with him.  The college adjuster helps, but only if you first check for errors in SimPE and correct them.  ie no sim who has not passed his first semester should have a GPA token in his memories, but sometimes they do, plus a grade of 0.0 instead of a blank.  You have to put these right, or the sim in question will never reach a GPA of 4.0 no matter how hard you make them work.

What uni does Mitch come from?

Academie Le Tour.

This happens to my own sims too, not just the premade.

ok, I'm going to check this out.

Question time:  if I add a second uni to my hood, will I get a whole new set of dormies and professors in addition to what I've already got?  Or does the second uni just use the existing dormies and professors?

Well, I suggest you check in SimPE for the things I've outlined and see if something similar has occurred.

Ness, you shouldn't get more dormies or professors etc., but you will find that the premade students wander between hoods once they arre out of the bin.

Yea, it does use the same set for multiple Unis, which means you can have one dorm resident living in different dorms on different campuses at the same time :).

That's one reason I only use five-roomed dorms and put all the sims I want in them - I hate the way the game can't put different ones in each dorm, but keeps on selecting almost the same ones.  It's as if they actually want you to move them in and make them selectable, which rather, in a way, defeats the object of having them in the first place!

Well, nodormiprotect does help cull the herd a bit. :)  And with nodormiregen installed, I've been mostly making my own and turning them into dormies with inge's bush.  I also did that with some of the maxis uni sims that I had no intention of ever playing.

Well, that's one way of getting rid of some of the deadwood, I guess!  It's a pity they didn't come up with a way, when you start a hood, you get a selection of townies/dormies displayed on a screen, which you can select or reject (a bit like selecting a jury!), and rename if you are sick of adding more Gilscarbos to your hood!

Curiouser and curiouser...

I added ALT to my hood, I've gone straight to Mitch's lot and just put him through his first semester of uni...  his grade bar expanded as he got each necessarily skill and his GPA is now at 4.0.

Why does it not work in some games but works perfectly in mine?

I've done nothing in simpe, just added the uni and went straight to that lot.

Well, I can only think that in some game these character's files get messed up on installation.  I never had any trouble with Mitch either, so far the only ones I've ever had trouble with are the Brights, and it happens every single time.  Some of the Greeks have very low GPAs too, but they don't even HAVE a GPA when you check in SimPE!

I'd tried everything else that anyone ever suggested, including moving them out without even loading the lot, but nothing worked, which is why I decided to take a look and see if something was going on in the background.

I cant figure out why when you move a SS person in your dorm or house they cannot call the SS to go visit...they can hack grades, but there is no phone option to visit the SS House.

Well, if they have the SS member token you would certainly think they could go visit!  But maybe, once they've moved in they have to get abducted again?

Can't say I've noticed that...  gives me another thing to check out.

I did notice in SS there are a couple of sims that have a GPA of 0.0 in their first semester - I guess that's what ZZ was talking about with those other sims.  I'm not that overly fussed about making them right and perfect to graduate with a 4.0, after all, not everyone does!

Sadly, the hood with Mitch (who had just been removed from ALT and moved into LFT with my other sims) became nice and toasty last night.  When I deleted the second uni I started to get missing lot errors, which made the game virtually unplayable.  After quitting and reloading there were two copies of the same sim, both in the panel and on the lot, and even though he had already graduated he went to his final exam...  The errors stopped and most things seemed ok, but there was enough subtle weirdness that I couldn't be sure of.

I declared that hood toast and started over again last night.

Oh, what a shame!  And you can't even eat the toast!

Actually, I agree with you, not everyone does graduate summa cum laude ( or in UK terms, a First) but it just seems unfair that it should be these three, who are always prepared to work hard - now the Greeks deserve (if not to be kicked out) at least to end up with what over here would be Unclassified!

I meant a SS townie...not a playable SS sim - just to be clear.

I realised that's what you meant.  I moved some in in previous games, but I can't remember now if they had the phone option or not.  I think I might have noticed if they didn't, though, and wonder if it's an OFB thing?

Dude, Necromancy is really bad M'kay! When a body has been sitting for around two years, it's probably in your better interest to not dig it back up.
On a side note. Get a real cd crack and you won't have to be online and connected to Ea to run your game.

Necromancy is SERIOUSLY bad m'kay!
Go watch that porn video!

It's not relevant new information. It's just saying you have the problem too. A new thread requesting help and asking if anyone has come up with anything since the last thread would have been more acceptable.

But the EA download manager versions are the exact same as the regular CD versions, just with the security set to check if Download Manager can establish a connection to EA's servers, instead of checking that you have the CD/DVD in the drive. Other than that, there is no difference between the two versions of the game.

Hey, Venusy! What's with the new avatar? Some sort of story behind that? What happened to the Municipality?

Untrue. EAxis download manager version phones home every time, thus transmitting all of your personal information on your computer back to its EAxis managers. It is evil spyware. Do not use that version!

Well, I've been playing an ARR'd copy of the first Phoenix Wright game recently, and since the current HOP invasion of RL makes me feel like banging my head against a wall repeatedly, it was obvious what to do next. I'll change it back after the outcome of the Senate vote to punish MegAnne.

Doesn't the disc version do this anyway if you leave it connected to the Internet?

What a coincidence, so am I, wait is it emulated or from a cartridge?Which is completely irrelevant to the topic therefore you have committed Necromancy

The disc version may occasionally try, but unlike the downloaded version, it doesn't cease functioning if you prevent it from doing so.

Actually, I think there is both. There is a guy at work who ordered this thing for his DS and now he can pirate games and play them on his DS. My memory is horrible, I wish that I could remember what it's called, as I would be very interested in acquiring one for myself. Ahh well, time to work on my google-fu. I would like to play the second Phoenix game and there is a third coming out sometime soon.

Morriganrant is right, I use a R4DS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R4DS) for all my DS ARRing.

I might get one of those however I've been using a PC to play NDS games with an emulator, forgotten what it's called though.
I might save some money for a DS then find out where R4DS are sold at.