More Awesome Than You!

With the success of my last poll, I present a new poll concerning female toddlers:

I chose toddlers because, amazingly enough, some of these girls grew up to be not terribly bad looking teens/children.  Granted, none of them are winning beauty contests any time soon, but I digress.

First up is the oldest of the bunch.  I'll call her Fred, but she generally went by "My God, what is that thing?" in my game:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_ae5a8014_f0784ecc.jpg)

Next comes Nene, who, unlike her older brother Terrell (who was featured in the first edition), actually got *all* of the worst genes her parents had to offer:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_10461e0f_70f79d1e.jpg)

Next comes Jo, who, if there was ever a casting call for a supervillain named Mottled Babyface, would win in a landslide:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_ae5a8014_51348b2e.jpg)

Fourth is a little girl simply called Bing.  I gave up on this family having children after this one.  The parents are good looking, but they've overpopulated Veronaville with a whole sea of uglies:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_ae54d9d0_11125ced.jpg)

Lastly, there's Marj, who didn't strike me as ugly as much as scary.  Whenever I had her go over to her toy rabbit head, or something, when her face would come up I would find myself horrified anew.  If ever there was a kid who would look as if she could latch onto your face and chew your eyeball out, it's her:
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_10461e0f_d114e1ba.jpg)

Again, the winner will get plastic surgery ASAP, if I'm feeling charitable.  Thanks for your consideration.

I voted for Marj, but it was a toss-up between her and Nene :-X Ugly kids or what? :D

Why don't my toddlers look like that?  I'd pay good money for that.

Yep that Nene got my vote too ... but it was a close call, they're all so damn ugly they could give some my own sim-sprogs a challenge  in a Ugly Contest.

Toddler faces don't translate certain features well at all, especially extremely prominent cheekbones (as is obvious from the pictures!), certain kinds of noses, and some almond-eye shapes. I have one sim who is Japanese in looks and the children and grandchildren who have inherited his eye shape made hideous toddlers but are now very attractive adults and children. Another toddler looked like he had gotten stuck with a huge pig-nose, but when he grew into a child, the nose turned into a cute little upturned number, just like his mother has.

Point being, don't give any of them plastic surgery because a sim's looks as a toddler are very poor indications of what it'll look like when it is older. Wait 'til they're teens at least.

I voted Nene too. Actually , they might turn out attractive when they grow up. I had one family that had ugly looking toddlers(although not as ugly as those,sorry ;D) that turned out as they grew up to be very attractive.

Presently, currently I'm experiencing the reverse problem. Cute toddler/child/teen that grows up to be a hideously ugly adults with big(and I mean big folks, think Pinocchio )noses and deformed mouths.

I'd  also like to issue a warning regarding that teen townie Cassandra . Don't let her have kids! My poor Sim married her and created freaks,although they were normal looking while they were toddlers-teens  . All of his other siblings(huge family) married others had had normal/attractive offspring that grew up goodlooking. So it's  got to be her fault. She grew up really unattractive when she reached adulthood and I changed her through plastic surgery too, so it's also my fault for not seeing it

ETA: what Renatus said

I voted for Marj, but I agree not to do surgery on a toddler. Had one child recently that looked like she had no nose. Just nose openings.  Worried some about that, but when she became a child, she was fine.  I think custom skin tones are partially responsible for some of my *mishaps*.

My self sim had twins who are now toddlers and they are the ugliest toddlers I've ever had (apart from the aliens and they could give most of those a run for their money).  Hopefully they'll improve with age.  I'll add a picture after I've been back in the game. 

My vote was cast on Fred. I too think that the others will grow up to be, well, homely at worst, but Fred seems to be a lost cause!

 ;D ;D ;D - I don't want to vote at all! Terrible kids!

If it would happen to me - I would reinstall the game. It's so depressing...:).

Give them all plastic surgery!

Yep, it was a tossup between Nene and Marj, and I voted for Nene....

I've heard a lot of people say their children get worse-looking through the generations, but I've been having a string of good-looking "Wow, s/he's hot!" 2nd-4th generation Sims. My latest Sim who aged to YA and went to college, well, all I could do is stare... he's a grandson of Brandi Broke's third son, brown hair, light blue eyes, Knowledge Sim, extremely nice... sheesh I want to reinsert myself into the game...

I know, I have a 3rd generation Sim who's very goodlooking. I've never had a Sim before that was as goodlooking as him. I refuse to let him age. Pretty soon all his nieces and nephews  as well as their children will be older then him but I don't care, I'm keeping him.

I had to go Marj, since her expression made me laugh out loud. Thrice.

Anybody else have the problem of their toddler's teeth poking out through his chin? Scared the crap out of me.

I went with Marj too, she's got this weird "little old lady" expression going on. I hope the poor things will improve with age. I haven't seen the toddler teeth pokng through the chin in my game but I've seen shots of it numerous times in photo albums.

I've got a set of my own uglies who's only hope seems to be the plastic surgery machine. Kevin Beare's (Sim State frat boy) features don't seem to pass on all that well, even when his wife is quite pretty. All three of their children have his pug nose and pointy cheekbones. They have really great personalities but man they're ugly. When the oldest, Emma, went to Sim State I couldn't stand it anymore and unlocked the career rewards. I was worried that when she went to kiss her boyfriend she'd put one of his eyes out with her cheekbones. :-X 

My God! Lol! I'm sorry but I hope I NEVER get kids as ugly as those things!!

I voted for Nene, because though marj is ugly, she just rather looked like she was constipated... Nene, well, I get the chills every time I look at her! She just,.. Creeps me out!! *brr*

The others just had to blown out/sucked in cheeks, and I sure that will work out once there older, (Goodness let's hope!)

Maybe you should consider killing Nene off... lol! J/K! :)

One of those kids looks like a monkey... :o

I've had that once or twice before. It was like their teeth were below their faces. I've had other disturbing things happen with my toddlers too, like the time I had a toddler whose nose and mouth were so close it looked like she had a mustache. It fixed itself when she became a teen though, even though she still wasn't exactly the prettiest thing.

I had a set of b/g twins in a 4th gen that were both just stunning. *sigh* I miss that family. Lost to one of my many BFBVFS. Though I did have enough foresight to export the toons at least.

Were their mothers "barbie dolls"?  Barbie genes don't mix well with human genes, they are too far apart.

I actually did state in my first post that some of the girls did grow up to be, if not pretty, at least not horrifying, which was why I chose toddlers.  Originally I had planned on using the child age, but even then some of them weren't horrible looking.  (I just wish that I could have used Marj's "I WILL EAT YOUR BRAIN" shot, but unfortunately after resizing the picture, it really wasn't large enough to see properly.  I don't doubt that that's why Bing is lagging so far behind.)

Here are shots of two of them further along in their lifestages.  I won't mention who they are, but there are clues in their two screenshots.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_ae5a8014_d124a033.jpg)

and

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_10461e0f_b114ebeb.jpg)

I've had some pretty ugly sims (so to speak), but nothing to match yours, yet, even though my sims are all descendents of townies.

I managed to create a freak toddler by making a normal sim-me in body shop and aging down, so I don't think it's necessarily genetics. I think if the adjustments go too far the system can't cope.

Pay me and I'll package them all for you.  I'll even throw in their parents at no extra charge! :p

Hmm so there's clues O.k I'm going to try to guesses who they are.
 
the first picture I think is Fred with the ponytail and jo is sitting next to her (Nene is sitting in her high chair so one of them one might be her. I picked them because they looked like their mothers

The last picture is I'm guessing is Marg? The only reason I"m picking this one is because you said you left clues and Marg is the only one in a crib as a toddler and there's a crib in that picture so I'm hoping that's a clue.

There's no way that Marj's pic is entered fairly into the fight. All sim toddlers look utterly repellent when they pull that face. I do concede that she has a worrying underlying bone structure but I would've like to have judged her on her loks not her gurning ability.

The first one is Fred, with the ponytail.  The girl to her left is her teenage sister who was holding her in the first picture.  The second one is Marj.

And it did occur to me that that may not be the best picture of Marj, but I tend to think it goes both ways, since her scariest feature, her eyes, actually looked better in that picture.  Here's another one that I hope is large enough to show her in her "at rest" state.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_10461e0f_b10e2a69.jpg)

EDIT: and of course it is, I'm so foolish.

i got nothing useful to add but I just wish to express my condolences that ur game seems overun with things I wouldn't even call sims  :-\

I'll kill them all and pretend they didn't exist in the first place.

And then miss out on the magical moment when you suddenly realize that all your attractive female sims want to bump uglies (when has that expression been more appropriate?) with these guys?

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_4fcf2288_30fa17b1.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_d12617e7_912617e8.jpg)

Besides, if I went about knocking off all my ugly sims, I'd still be doing it well into next year.

you don't....


let them BREED, do you???

Errr...I think she does...that explains why they never die out and why we have these polls.... :D

None of the sims in either of the two polls have had children.  Of the girls in this poll, the two oldest are teens now so it hasn't even been an issue.

However, I sort of had a notion of what I was getting into when I had these two breed:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/cwhitney1972/snapshot_10461e0f_713d5ec9.jpg)

And sure enough, those two are the parents of Nene, Marj and Terrell, three of the four ugliest children in Veronaville.

The woman is fine, but with the strange structure of the man's face it's absolutely no wonder their children looked so bizarre as babies and children. :P

Yikes! Your sims are rivaling Maxis in the fugly department. I can't imagine what the rest of your game looks like. :o

The ugliest sim in my game is the daugther of Jill Smith (PT9's daughter) and the eldest Grunt kid. Oddly enough though, her brother is a beautiful little boy. The poor girl really got the worst of her parents' genes.

The big question is - where'd the Dad come from? The mom is okay - no beauty, but not bad, but the Dad is clearly where your unfortunate offspring get their fugliness.

Neither of them look too bad on their own, but once you start mixing genes...that's where it gets messy.  :(  I wish the game blended sim parents' features better.  That's one of the biggest things I looked forward to in Sims 2.  In Sims 1 it seemed like kids never really looked like their parents, and they never grew up either (without mods).  A while back, I created a family of redheads.  I carefully picked what I thought was a good looking male and female and set them up with a set of toddlers.  They were both Family aspiration and wanted 10 kids.  They were going to populate my Pleasantview with redheads.  But their features didn't blend well at all.  :(  I ended up doing plastic surgery on almost all of them in college.  The poor girls had horrible noses.  What was a cute upturned nose on their mom did not carry over well.  The boys all got their father's cheekbones, but they were out of balance with the rest of their faces.  There were other things too, like the spacing between their nose and mouth, the length of their face and neck, etc.  I changed them in SimPE so the changes would be genetic, but now that they are breeding, it seems like some of the features are still coming through.  I can't kill them off though, they are still my favorite family, and I've put too much into them.  One of the youngest had twins with Dana, Don Lothario's daughter.  The little boy's eyes are so huge and misshapen!  I was disappointed.  So they will just become best friends with the plastic surgery machine, or actually, the InSim's facial structure adjuster, until those strange features become more balanced, or something.   :'(

What's wrong with his face apart from the fact that his eyebrows don't seem to extend as far out as his eyes do, which, is a little strange, given they're so close together in the first place?  Wait ... I see what you mean now.   :D


Isn't that just like real life though?  Plastic surgery corrects the mistakes nature makes. 

Anyway, I think you're all strange playing with pretty sims all the time - embrace their ugliness, I say.

These kids weren't that bad once they got out of the face-mangledness of toddlerhood, so yes, I'd say to leave them alone. However, I get a bit tired, myself, of people rattling on about 'embracing the ugliness' of sims that look nothing like any actual human being. My philosophy (so to speak) is that they're modeled after human beings so they can damn well continue to look like human beings, even if I have to force the issue and correct blending mistakes myself.

Not a dig at you, maxon, I know you meant the former (a bit ugly as adults maybe but still human) and not the latter (eyestalks, f'rex). I just can't seem to resist dragging out my soapbox sometimes.  ;)

I can't seem to say it often enough - you can't judge how a sim will look by its looks as a toddler, as how the code interprets an adult face into a toddler face is faulty and often doesn't work.

I like the father actually, it's a unique, realistic face (if not a supermodel). But I can see why the genes wouldn't mix well.

I refer you here:

http://thefunnypage.com/eyes/   ;D

Seriously, though, the examples in this thread of ugly sim children are nothing compared to the real thing. 

Eww, that is just creepy.  That can't be good.  I don't see anything wrong with correcting blending mistakes either.  After all, it's just a computer game, and the game engine is limited in how much it can do.  I try to keep the individuality of the sim's face while balancing certain features that just stand out and slap you in the face every time you look at them.  Perhaps some people enjoy ugly sims.  Maxis townies are just right for you then.  But I want my sims to look somewhat human, as Renatus said.  I do not enjoy playing the game with sims who look like freaks.  And isn't that what the game is about?  Enjoyment?