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Title: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 March 16, 02:05:17 I have no idea why, but whenever my Servo goes walkabout he generates an error and I have to delete him. This means he can't socialise except on his home lot, which is a pity because I've never seen him interact on another lot. I've checked his memories and there's nothing there that could be causing it, so I'm attaching an error log in case anyone can work out what's wrong with him.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: twojeffs on 2006 March 16, 03:10:51 That's caused by an old version of less whiny. Get the updated one.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 March 16, 04:44:37 I don't have less whiny. I've never used it!
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 16, 04:48:05 Are you sure it didn't sneak in somehow? It's possible another hack that messes with the same areas could do the same thing. What hacks do you have?
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 March 16, 04:58:00 No, I definitely don't have it, I've checked. I can't see why a hack would affect just the robot walkby anyway. I'll go through them and see if anything looks iffy, but with it only affecting the one Sim I'm not sure where to start. If I can't get anywhere I'll post a list (but it will be long!).
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 16, 05:04:50 Well less whiny I think checks the motives of sims on a lot to stifle their complaining. It seemed to be looking for a motive on servos and not finding it (the old version with the servo bug). My guess is it was looking for energy, but they don't have energy they have power. Since the servos are missing the energy motive basically anything that watches or alters motives or sims reactions to motive levels could be the culprit. Could be the Please Yourself Plant maybe? I'm trying to think what else is out there that might do it.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 March 16, 14:30:18 The first time it happened was on a business lot, which is owned by a friend of Servo. He tried twice to visit, but each time I had to delete him. That lot does have a PY plant. However, the second and third time he was the walkby on a normal residential lot, neither of which have anything like that on them. I just hope this isn't going to happen with all Servos (because they have no energy), but in the absence of anyone else confirming it's happened to them, I don't know. I suppose I'm going to have to remove my hacks folder and see whether it makes a difference.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 16, 14:36:08 I would try that yes. When I had a similar problem I was the first one to note it and ended up having to narrow everything down one by one until I got to less whiny. I definitely didn't have the problem when no hacks were run though and I suspect the same for you. For me, it would happen everytime servo appeared on a lot that wasn't his, so if he was a guest or a walkby or shopper, but if I played his lot and controlled him he was just fine, same thing if I made him selectable.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Marvelleaux on 2006 March 16, 22:35:49 I'm having the same problem with the servo. Whenever one would show up on a lot you could not interact with them. In addition to this I had a Servo purchase a business and when he was there, the cashier was unable to process a transaction. The sim working the register was a controllable sim and there was no "ring up this costomer" option even though the costomer was clearly ready for action and eventually got pissed and stomped off.
I just took out the Directors Cut version of Lesswhiney and I'll see if that did any good and report back in a few. Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Marvelleaux on 2006 March 16, 23:07:27 Removing the lesswhiney hack solved my servo problems.
Thanks! Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 16, 23:45:15 Heh has an updated version in the OFB directory. I guess he didn't update the one in the directors cut but I can confirm the one in the direct works without problems.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 March 17, 00:09:07 As lesswhiny is definitely not the culprit in my game, clearly it's something else. To avoid spending the next 24 hours removing and adding back hacks, does anyone have any suggestions as to anything that might be similar? I had Servo turn-up today on another business lot, one I'd never been to before, which I took a Sim to (Le Magnifique: International Restaurant) and again he errored. This is all Maxis stuff obviously, so it certainly isn't a modified object that's causing the problem, it has to be some sort of global hack. I am starting to feel sorry for poor Servo now. Every lot I go to he tries to visit and he keeps having to be sent away.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 17, 00:34:28 Well if you list what you have I can scan it and see if anything jumps out. If it's not the please yourself plant, not sure what else it could be.
An easy way to get a list is to go into command line in the directory where you hacks are and type in "dir *.package > hacks.txt" and then it should create a file called hacks.txt that is a list. Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Lion on 2006 March 17, 00:45:20 Well if you list what you have I can scan it and see if anything jumps out. If it's not the please yourself plant, not sure what else it could be. An easy way to get a list is to go into command line in the directory where you hacks are and type in "dir *.package > hacks.txt" and then it should create a file called hacks.txt that is a list. How to "go into command line in the directory"? Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 17, 01:02:35 I knew someone was going to ask that.
It's from the start button, then programs then accessories and you have to do cd to change the directory to the one you want. Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Lion on 2006 March 17, 01:05:52 I knew someone was going to ask that. It's from the start button, then programs then accessories and you have to do cd to change the directory to the one you want. cd: Clean Disk? :-[ bear with me. Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 17, 01:18:23 As lesswhiny is definitely not the culprit in my game, clearly it's something else. I blame something non-awesome.Quote I am starting to feel sorry for poor Servo now. Every lot I go to he tries to visit and he keeps having to be sent away. This may be a good thing. The last thing Servo needs is a bunch of friends that will drag down his efficiency as factory labor with having to stop every day to maintain those.Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 17, 01:59:08 cd: Clean Disk? :-[ bear with me. cd =change directory. I take it you never used DOS? ;) Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Jelenedra on 2006 March 17, 05:45:03 Hey, I used dos and I never knew that 'cd' stood for change directory. I knew it as: "The thing that lets me change from one thingy to another."
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 March 17, 15:58:32 OK, here are my actual hacks in the sense of global ones:
Abductions - Higher Odds.package antibabylecture.package antiwatchout.package apologizefix.package asprechargetweak.package autosoc.package bdaypartywantfix.package BedSleepLateOFB.package Call to Chat - Invite Over Fix.... captainhero.package Carrigon_VisitorsLaterHackNL.pa... Casual Romance - Bed Socials Co... Casual Romance - Hottub Socials... Casual Romance - Main Controlle... Casual Romance - Social - Flirt... Casual Romance - Social - Flirt... Casual Romance - Social - Flirt... Casual Romance - Social - Flirt... Casual Romance - Social - Flirt... Casual Romance - Social - Kiss ... Casual Romance - Social - Kiss ... Casual Romance - Social - Kiss ... Casual Romance - Social - Kiss ... CBOY_ComputerMadnessFix.package CBOY_Dance_Sphere_skilling.package CBOY_Easel_usage_fix.package CBOY_NoCommLotFoodServe.package CBOY_NormalClothes.package CBOY_SlobsBeSlobs.package censor.package censustool.package Cheesecake Twins Fix - 50%.package clothingtool.package clothingtool-globals.package coffeecuphack.package Coffin4VampiresOnly.package comm-skilling.package CribSleepNight.package crumplefix.package dancefitnessandbodyskilling.package Death By Satellite - Higher Odd... djssleeponcommunitylots.package doorbell-quieter.package ffsdebugger.package finalfix-nlp2.package firemod.package Food Already Available Fix.package Give Townies Want Histories.package gradpartymemfix.package Havechildnotadopt.package homework-in-bedroom1c.package homeworksometimesfasterfun_v2.p... hygienebugfix.package HygienicSwimming.package lobonanny.package ltwvariety.package macrotastics.package manual-navigation.package marriage-postmortum.package marriage-traditional.package moneyorder.package Move In - Normal New.package moveoutbugfix.package MQ_Computer_Global_Bank.package MQ_Computer_Global_Bank_Bills_C... MQ_Computer_Global_Bank_Bills_C... MQ_Computer_Global_Bank_Bills_C... MQ_Computer_Global_Bank_Bills_C... MQ_Computer_Global_Bank_Control... MQ_Vampire_Nightime_Decay_Hack.... MQ_Vampire_Sleep_Caller.package NL - DormGenderController.package NL - Low Food Warning.package NL - No Autonomous Napping.package NL - Noogies No Autonomy.package NL - Same Sex Marriage Ver 1.2b... NL - Students Move Away From th... No Romance Swoon.package no_teen_jobs_for_elders.package noagediscrimination.package nobabyharassment.package nocorruptdeath.package nocrybabies.package nodeanspam.package nodroptiredbaby.package nolamehires.package NoMidStreamStop.package noprivacybathroom.package noservochores.package nouniprotect.package nounlinkondelete.package novanishindorms.package nowhatsthis.package Numenor_Turn-Off-TV_Fix.package OFB - No Dorm Car Want Spam.package OFB - Object Min Cost Want Hack... OFB_ShowerBath.package OFBHireYA .package PaintingsStayViewable.package phonehack.package phonehack-talkmodule.package privateschoolbillfix.package romanceurnstonefix.package runtoclass.package scannergunhack.package Shrubtoilethack.package skillinator.package smartercashier.package sshack.package stuckobjremover.package Targas_transparent_water.package thefightclub.package ToddlerPlaywithToiletsfix.package Visitor Snacking Fix.package WooHooTeens_6f_OFB.package WriteNovelsFaster.package yellowpee.package Yellowpeeobject.package zTwojeffs_Preg For All Genders.... The ones starting NL are all TwoJeffs and okayed for OFB. Although I don't think they will be the culprits, these are my hacked objects: 7SimsliceTS2-Appraisenator.package 7Simslice-TS2GuestGenerator.package 7Simslice-TS2PensionForms.package authorized_personnel_only.package babycontrol.package basspainting.package bathroomusesyou.package bubbleblowerpainting.package businesscomputer.package carpainting_cheap.package Carrigon_GoldenSpider.package carrigon_hackedfruitbowl.package carrigon_mysterystat.package Carrigon_PoisonDrink2.package carrigon_vampiredolly.package Christianlov_CounterfeitCollege... Christianlov_EasyClothingBooth_... Christianlov_EasyClothingBooth_... Christianlov_EasySofa.package Christianlov_EasySofa_Small.package Christianlov_Elixir_of_Resurrec... Christianlov_SimBoutique_Clothi... Christianlov_SimTransporter.package Christianlov_SofaSocial.package Christianlov_VisitorWorkerMirro... collegeadjuster.package collegeclock.package DaysLeftShrub.package dentedtrain10000investmentbond.... dentedtrain10000loanpainting.pa... dentedtrain1000loanpainting.package dentedtrain25000investmentbond.... dentedtrain25000loanpainting.pa... dentedtrain5000loanpainting.package dentedtrainloanpaintingrecolour... dentedtrainloanpaintingrecolour... dentedtrainloanpaintingrecolour... dentedtrainloanpaintingrecolour... dmaOBJ_COA.package dmaOBJ_Diploma.package dmaOBJ_LoveTub.package dmaOBJ_PoliceCar.package dmaOBJ_Support.package dmaOBJ_Teleport.package dmaOBJ_WallSpeaker.package dmaOBJ_WHBed.package dmaOBJ_WHBooth.package drumkitpainting.package Energy Static Sculpture Ver 1.1... ffsdebugger.package Find a Mate Crystal Ball.package guitarpainting.package ijBiggerMortgageShrub.package ijEmployeeToken.package ijMortgageShrub.package ijSensibleStudyBookcase.package ijTimedOpenCloseSign.package JackMasterOfVampires.package LeMarchandsConfiguration.package lethes-mesh-crystalball.package lethes-mesh-tarotdeck.package liugno2decay2.package liugnos2weekd.package LizzLoves_Gender_Preference_Kit... LizzLoves_Waterbed_of_Love_063.... ME_MindControlMirror.package ME_MultiPainting.package MemoryBottle.package moneyorder.package MQ_ATM_Machine.package MQ_Computer.package MQ_Computer_Expensive.package MQ_Resurrect-O-Nomitron.package MQ_SAobj132_lightcomputer.package Numenor_Hibernator_main.package Numenor_Hibernator_recolour_Gla... Numenor_Hibernator_recolour_Pin... outfitplanner.package PayArcade1.package PayArcade2.package PayBuffet.package PayExertoB.package PayExertoL.package PayExertoM.package PayExertoP.package PayFearlessT.package PayPinballElect.package PayPinballSackman.package PayPinballShark.package PayToilet.package pianopainting.package PY2Plant.package rdrglx_invisibledriveway.package RunWithScissors.package.package Simsky-BodyMakeover.package sleepclock.package synctimer.package TeleporterPaintingPlus.package TeleporterShrubPlus.package Toiletpaperblack.package Toiletpaperwhite.package UltraGnome.package UltraGnome_NPC.package wind_cowhead_interactive.package wind_cowheadbrown.package zdeathinabox.package ztheangelinabox.package zwintermutetestobjbamboo.package I also have the following hacks in my main downloads folder. The Insim is not yet updated for OFB, but according to Kathy it's OK. As I use the SIM version, the one most likely to cause problems, there is a possibility that it may be the culprit, although it's never ever caused any kind of problem in my game before. agecons.package CBOY_nudist.package CBOY_nudist_itrem.package CBOY_nudist_naked_emitter.package InSIMenator (UV) v2.2 SIM Editi... zCBOY_nudist_Social.package I have to admit that there are probably a few in there that aren't compatible. Most of them I've been able to check and I have removed any that have been specified as unsuitable, but there is probably the odd one in there that I can't remember where I got them from, or whatever. I haven't got around to running them through CI to check for updates. Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: cyperangel on 2006 March 17, 16:10:54 I am using my insim UV Dest no problem, so i doubt that that is the culprit. I also had this problem, but as many others mine was tied to the lesswhiny hack.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Sleepycat on 2006 March 17, 19:54:15 InSim worked fine for me too, it has been OFB updated now (see sig)
it has one slight bug (max all motives for a single sim makes the sim jump or something) that will be getting fixed soon so you may want to wait for the fixed file. Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 17, 21:10:03 Ancient: Have you tried a test run without hacks just to make sure it isn't a game bug?
I'll look over the list when I get home and try to pick anything out. I don't want people to walk by and see me staring at a long list of stuff when I should be working. ;D Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 March 18, 02:20:23 OK, I've found the culprit. I took out a couple of mods that seemed possible causes - it turned out to be the second one I took out, namely Carrigon_VisitorsLaterHackNL. As I recall, I started using this because Monique's wasn't working properly with OFB, so I'm going to have to see if she's updated it because I can't stand it when everyone leaves so early, especially the kids and teens. I can't update Carrigon's because she seems to have disappeared, she's not on the new site that was mentioned in a thread on here, it doesn't exist anymore.
If anyone has a mod that enables visitors to stay later which works without affecting robots, can you let me know? Quite why this would affect robots and not ordinary sims I have no idea, but it obviously does. Why on earth don't error reports mention the mod that's causing the problem? It would make life so much easier. Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 18, 02:36:29 Moniques wasn't working for you? It does for me. A little too well as they tend to shower and sleep at my place until I tell them to go, but locked doors seem to fix that problem.
Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Sleepycat on 2006 March 18, 03:24:34 Carrigon is at this site
http://www.sims2workshop.com/forums/forum.php Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: Marvelleaux on 2006 March 18, 15:33:22 As lesswhiny is definitely not the culprit in my game, clearly it's something else. I blame something non-awesome... This may be a good thing. The last thing Servo needs is a bunch of friends that will drag down his efficiency as factory labor with having to stop every day to maintain those. Lesswhiny was my problem. All of my hacks are awesome, so there was no disputing it. I want Servo to interact because I intend on making him the immortal owner of my dominant family's business. I don't want to loose perks and I don't want to have to deal with passing them on. Also, he can make friends and hire whatever townies I decide to not kill. Title: Re: My Servo Can't Go Walkabout Post by: syberspunk on 2006 March 18, 15:51:22 Doesn't twojeffs' Visitor Controller thingamabob also affect sims staying later? Read the deets I suppose in his first/main post or RTFM. I was pretty sure that it also took care of this, but I could be mistaken... ???
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