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Awesomeware => The Armory => Topic started by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 09, 21:03:23



Title: Smarter Cashier
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 09, 21:03:23
It ain't rocket science, people, and it certainly shouldn't be the hardest badge in the game for the easiest job in real life!

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Smarter Cashiers for TS2OFB p0
Made by: Flying Fish Systems (J. M. Pescado)

Congratulations to: Draklixa!
In Memoriam: Dizzy

FEATURES:
Operating a cash register is not rocket science anymore. You no longer have to
ring in 50 people before your cashier stops looking like an incompetent dolt,
making it the single hardest badge in the game to get.

COMPATIBILITY:
Compatible with all FFS hacks. Tested for TS2OFB p0.

SIDE EFFECTS:
May cause computer damage, incontinence, explosion of user's head, coma, death,
and/or halitosis.

WARNING:
Do not open, crush, dispose of in fire, put in backwards, short-circuit, or mix
with non-awesome hacks - may explode, leak, or catch fire, resulting in injury
and/or death.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2006 March 10, 05:38:41
I had no idea they had to ring-up that many people, how ridiculous!  The way mine are going they'd be dead before they got there.  Does this reduce the number of people they have to ring-up, or what?


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: vecki on 2006 March 10, 05:49:16
That's exactly what I was going to ask!


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Emma on 2006 March 10, 07:24:22
Thankyou JM :)


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: radiophonic on 2006 March 10, 08:00:22
Hot damn! I was beginning to wonder if my cachier was just incompetent. My sales people earn gold badges faster.

You have to ring up 50 people to learn how to use it?  :-\


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Renatus on 2006 March 10, 09:10:07
Ahh, here we go. Much appreciated! I knew something was screwy about that badge when a sim with full logic spent all day on the register and didn't gain anything.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: gali on 2006 March 10, 10:13:42
Thanks, it's Awesome...:)


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 10, 10:50:26
Ahh, here we go. Much appreciated! I knew something was screwy about that badge when a sim with full logic spent all day on the register and didn't gain anything.
Logic does doodly to the cash register learn rate, sorry. There is zero effect from logic points on the cash register's learn rate. Which to some degree, makes a certain amount of sense, since cash registers are for dummies who can't do the math in their heads.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: JenW on 2006 March 10, 11:58:59
Logic does doodly to the cash register learn rate, sorry. There is zero effect from logic points on the cash register's learn rate. Which to some degree, makes a certain amount of sense, since cash registers are for dummies who can't do the math in their heads.

Oh for heaven's sakes :P Something else the Prima guide is dead wrong on. Does anything (other than this shiny of course) affect the register learn rate?


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Renatus on 2006 March 10, 12:01:53
Ahh, here we go. Much appreciated! I knew something was screwy about that badge when a sim with full logic spent all day on the register and didn't gain anything.
Logic does doodly to the cash register learn rate, sorry. There is zero effect from logic points on the cash register's learn rate. Which to some degree, makes a certain amount of sense, since cash registers are for dummies who can't do the math in their heads.

That would explain why he was so damn slow, then. Does anything affect the learn rate on the register - or for that matter, any of the things that earn badges, or are various guides and such full of shit (as per usual)?


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: cwieberdink on 2006 March 10, 13:33:38
Thank you, this is great.  Now if we can add on "be cashier" actually working that would be even greater  erm..... better!   :D

C


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 10, 14:50:11
That would explain why he was so damn slow, then. Does anything affect the learn rate on the register - or for that matter, any of the things that earn badges, or are various guides and such full of shit (as per usual)?
Some things are affected, other things are not. The various guides are, as usual, full of shit. What did you expect from a book which obviously must be pure conjecture given that it was put up for sale BEFORE THE GAME EVEN EXISTED?!?


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: blubug on 2006 March 10, 16:23:07
Does this reduce the number of people they have to ring-up, or what?
I'd like to know this too, does ringing 1 sim up make you a pro, or is it like 25 now :)


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: LordHellscream on 2006 March 10, 16:27:48
am i a bit confused, what exactly does this hack do?
makes register badge learning faster? or...


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Tina G on 2006 March 10, 20:01:58
This is more than merely awesome! Thanks!


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: PlayLives on 2006 March 10, 21:21:57
So does this make it ridiculously easier to get the register badge? I don't want it to be to easy, I like the challenge.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 10, 21:30:57
It's not ridiculously easy: The gold badge remains a fair distance away. The early badges will not be nearly as agonizing though. It's a frikken cash register, not an ICBM launch panel!


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: MissDoh on 2006 March 10, 21:36:54
I tried it yesterday, I would say it was after something like 7 or 10 customers that the 1st badge came in.

Other level badges were as hard to get as they normally are.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: PlayLives on 2006 March 10, 22:23:23
It's a frikken cash register, not an ICBM launch panel!

LOL, they do act like it is though.   ::)


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: LordHellscream on 2006 March 11, 00:10:42
It's not ridiculously easy: The gold badge remains a fair distance away. The early badges will not be nearly as agonizing though. It's a frikken cash register, not an ICBM launch panel!
it sorta is, it is what sits between all your hardwork and the cold hard cash. its kinda ICBM control panel of your retail business.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: JaneSims on 2006 March 11, 01:14:19
Thank you!

I was wondering if anyone knows this or not. Does working the Lemonade stand as a child or teen give them sales or register training?

I would think that it does but ....... I fully expect that it won't. If it doesn't this would be a terrific hack for someone to make.

I don't mind making them do the actual stuff to get qualified but geez - my sims was ringing up sale after sale - all day & still no bronze badge. It was truly ridiculous.

JM to the rescue! Thanks :)

Jane


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: skandelouslala on 2006 March 11, 02:54:47
Sweet.  I can't believe it was 50 sims..that's just dumb.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: dusty on 2006 March 11, 06:08:21


I was wondering if anyone knows this or not. Does working the Lemonade stand as a child or teen give them sales or register training?

Jane

I haven't played with that yet, so I don't know. But if it did you should probably see the symbol that indicates they are gaining talent - the blue cash register thing with a green + sign beside it.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Dea on 2006 March 11, 06:11:10
Kids cannot earn badges yet


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 11, 08:05:29
Right, the kids can't earn badges, even sales for the lemonade which is the only thing that would make even bothering with the damned thing useful. The money it earns is so pathetic it's neglible, and so is the teeny tiny bit of cooking skill they get from the 2.5 seconds they are actually making the lemonade.  ::)

I was actually looking forward to this thinking the kids could get a head start on that sales badge, boy was I wrong.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Renatus on 2006 March 11, 09:59:02
Some things are affected, other things are not. The various guides are, as usual, full of shit. What did you expect from a book which obviously must be pure conjecture given that it was put up for sale BEFORE THE GAME EVEN EXISTED?!?

Not a whole hell of a lot. That's why I don't buy them, but leech the info off of other suckers who have. ;)

Does this hack also make them faster pre-badge? I noticed that the fresh CAS sim I played last night seemed to punch those keys a lot faster than the other sim I played pre-hack.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Karen on 2006 March 11, 11:57:47
This seems to be working great.  I got my first bronze level cashier badge today, and it didn't take a tremendous amount of effort.  Thanks!

Karen


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 11, 16:09:50
I just noticed another dumb thing about cashiers, Maxis didn't see fit to give the cashier npcs any badges. Also, while you visit a community lot they seem to punch away at the register with great ease, yet if you hire in your store them they suddenly seem to forget being able to do that and fall all over themselves.  ::)


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Lion on 2006 March 11, 19:36:40
Motoki, you mean un-owned community lots? hmmm....that's really double standard from Maxis. Even worse, when you visit an owned community lots, the cashiers that you assigned, or the owners, don't even want to ring up customers.  >:(


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 11, 20:38:03
Yes the regular old pre-OFB community lots. I thought the best way to find someone to hire with a register badge would be to hire someone who already has experience as a cashier, but I guess that's not the case.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Lion on 2006 March 11, 21:13:50
Yes the regular old pre-OFB community lots. I thought the best way to find someone to hire with a register badge would be to hire someone who already has experience as a cashier, but I guess that's not the case.

 :D hehe, quite good thinking, but you were wrong to assume Maxis follows logic. The thing with hiring a specific person is you have to know them (but I don't know the relationship requirement). I just don't have the time to get to know them before I can hire them. In my Bluewater village, all the community lots are owned by somebody by now.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Motoki on 2006 March 11, 22:49:01
I think it's around 20 daily. It's a pain in the butt though having to try and manually hire them all to figure out who has what badge. I am finding I really need to sharpen my memory and keep in mind which sims have which badges so I can hire the right ones when I need them at a later date.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Ruann on 2006 March 12, 17:01:45
How many transactions should a Sim have to go through to hit Gold?  I pulled it off in my one-Sims home shop (Flower lady in Bluewater Village) in less than three Sim Days.  With hours of operation being 9am to 5pm or so.  And she was busy re-stocking (for the first two days, then she hired a peon townie teen) and doing Sales socials the entire itme.  Unless she started with an invisible head start, she flew through them.  The first badge only took between 3 to 7 transactions.  She got it her first afternoon of business.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 12, 17:20:08
According to my data, it's 4 to bronze, 8 to silver, and 28 to gold. Sims perform their tasks competently at the Silver level, badly below that. It's enough to incite one to homicidal rage after seeing it more than a few times, sorta like the urge you get when you see somebody typing too slowly: You just wanna punch 'em in the face.

By DEFAULT, it's an AGONIZING 17(!!!) to bronze and an additional 33(!!!) to silver!, and an additional 66(!!!) to gold. My level 10 business has served 81 customers. You will never see a gold cashier badge like that. It just won't happen.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Mirelly on 2006 March 12, 17:27:07
Thanks for this JM. It was a badly needed mod. Although I have come across more than a few cash-register morons of all ages and in shapes and sizes of store over the years they are not that common!


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Ruann on 2006 March 12, 17:48:39
By DEFAULT, it's an AGONIZING 17(!!!) to bronze and an additional 33(!!!) to silver!, and an additional 66(!!!) to gold. My level 10 business has served 81 customers. You will never see a gold cashier badge like that. It just won't happen.

 :o   ::)

That is just...  MENTALLY RETARDED!

I like your version way better! 

Gah... 17 transactions... no wonder people hated my shops before. 


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: windy_moon on 2006 March 12, 18:33:44
At the risk of being lipless, ThankYouThisisGreat.

Right up there with the Coffee Cup hack for pounding logic into poor design.



 8)


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Angeleyez on 2006 March 18, 04:26:09
Thank you so much this is a very needed one for sure. I hate it when they get hit in the stomach by the drawer.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2006 March 18, 05:14:39
Thank you so much this is a very needed one for sure. I hate it when they get hit in the stomach by the drawer.
Yeah, how often can someone realistically fall for that one, anyway?


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: seventhson on 2006 March 18, 08:10:58
Thank you so much this is a very needed one for sure. I hate it when they get hit in the stomach by the drawer.
Yeah, how often can someone realistically fall for that one, anyway?

From personal experience: Maybe twice, if the shop is busy and two people are trying to simultaneously serve customers, and the cash drawer is situated just below the bench on which the non-using-cash-register-person is trying to wrap a customer's purchase. And there is no warning.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: IgnorantBliss on 2006 March 18, 09:13:31
Would it be possible to modify the hack so that the level of logic does have an effect? I need some motivation to build my sims' skills, and it's disappointing if the logic affects nothing when it comes to cashier skills. I knew there was something fishy going on when a sim with at least 7 logic skill points took ages to earn even a bronze badge.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Thraxwhirl on 2006 March 22, 20:50:25
Y'know, it's things like THIS that make me wish Maxis would send advance copies of their EPs to JMP to Beta Test and debug sort of two or three months before inflicting them on the rest of us.

The ****** "Location out of Bounds" bug is another of course. How no one spotted THAT during weeks or even months of testing before its release, when it took me about 10 minutes after installing, God alone knows.

Anyway, yes, better Cashiers. Thank GOD!

By which I mean thank YOU, JMP. ;)


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Hairfish on 2006 March 23, 07:57:30
Did someone kidnap the Smarter Cashier? I'm getting an "it ain't here" error. My eyeballs can't find it, either.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: WoundedImmortal on 2006 March 23, 18:07:53
Must try this out...This was definately something that annoyed me.  One of my first jobs was as a cashier and it was simple...learned in training before I even saw a customer.  Definately not as difficult as this game makes it look!


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Ruann on 2006 March 23, 18:44:52
There should be a copy of it in the moreawesomethanyou.zip file.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: TreyNutz on 2006 March 25, 05:58:06
By DEFAULT, it's an AGONIZING 17(!!!) to bronze and an additional 33(!!!) to silver!, and an additional 66(!!!) to gold. My level 10 business has served 81 customers. You will never see a gold cashier badge like that. It just won't happen.

Well, if logic did have an effect, and max logic halved those numbers, that wouldn't be so bad.  I wonder what Maxis really intended.   ???
Oh well.  Doesn't matter.  I'm installing your hack.  I've gotten a few bronze register badges the hard way, but it looks like it will take forever to get to silver.


Title: Re: Smarter Cashier
Post by: Hairfish on 2006 March 25, 21:03:55
Someone must have paid the ransom, because it's back.  ;)