More Awesome Than You!

I have two servos that I built as employees for US Robotics.  They hang around the owner's house, doing incredibly stupid things, like having two live-in nannies with all the nanny behavior you hate.  Every few minutes - maybe every 30 sim minutes? - they automatically get the "do chores" task, which interrupts any queued actions you might have.  So I might order Caliban-1 to pick up two discarded bottles, he'll pick up one, go wander off to "do a chore" in another part of the house, and then come back to pick up the second bottle.

The real problem is the retarded things like to serve food, and the "Food Already Available Fix" doesn't prevent it.  Horatio-2 serves chocolate cake, and a couple of family members sit down to eat it.  Then Caliban-1 starts to serve a meal.  I cancel that, since there's no way anyone will eat it, and the table is covered with chocolate cake slices anyway.  I tell Caliban-1 one to clear it up, he does, and then before I can stop him he's opened the refrigerator again to Serve Baked Alaska.

Great way to waste food, Servos.  I think I'll keep you shut off at all times unless I actually have orders for you.

 - Gus

Download No Servo "Do Chores" (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=3333.0).

All my Servo wants to do is drink espresso.

My servo is a idiot too but for different reasons.  Whenever he is idle he wants to play the bloody computer, what's worse is it's in the kids room and he keeps wanting to go play it at night while the kid is sleeping.  Thank goodness for J.M's sleep clock or i'd have killed that robotic annoyance long ago.  I keep having to tell that dumb robot to do something constructive like paint.  I put him as a fortune sim so he could roll up the painting want well he doesn't just tons of job wants and no painting want despite his maxed skills.  A further annoyance of this robot menace is that i have to have free will on for him to do any autonomously cleaning.  Personally i preferred the sims 1 servo, you couldn't control him, he didn't need social and he just cleaned and went about his business then shut down for the day.

Thanks, I missed that hack.  I usually prefer free will for a variety of reasons, but the "do chores" code is stupid enough that I definitely don't want it.

 - Gus

Try to make him paint once before, and try to make it a masterpiece.  Then he should roll the "Paint a Master Piece" want.  And, with the masterpiece want, comes the even more persistant "Sell a Novel" want.  Then, two of his want slots are taken up by "Have Masterpiece Fail" and "Sell a Pulp Novel" fear.  Bit annoying really.  I would pick Knowledge for Aspiration.  That way, he is doing something constructive.

Since we're on the subject of Servo..is there anyway to get rid of him? My daughter had her sim build three of them and she's wanting them out of the family. Can they move out via the newspaper or computer?

Yes.  But just breaking them and leaving them broken would be fun too.

I've had him sell a masterpiece like 5 times already and it still doesn't work.  Maybe i gotta get his creativity to drop somehow and upgrade it again to make a masterpiece?

Monique's computers on MTS2 don't affect Sims sleeping in the same room, even when they play SSX.  I am so used to this now, I'd forgotten it was part of them until I got the update today.

Considering i use the sleep clock it's not a big problem as they can't get out of bed to whine anyway.  I just wish his preference was paint instead of play computer.

US Robotics? Are you making modems too?

Hmm.. with so many negative reports of Servo, I think I would just use him in my shop. Would that make things better? I don't want him as a family member if he causes that many issues.

Servo does not really have issues beyond "Do Chores". Most of his antics stem from the real culprit, FREE WILL MODE, coupled with a LACK OF ORDERS. If you simply neglect him, of COURSE he is going to do some random stupid thing. With a complete lack of anything INTELLIGENT to be doing since he has practically no motives, he will do stupid things!

Well maybe you want to make some sort of military control device for him then?  That goes along the lines of production and painting ect.  But yeah your right i think i'm gonna start playing with free will off again and just tell him to do what i want myself it'll stop the stupidity.

To be honest, Servo doesn't really benefit much from macros when ordered to do factory labor at workbenches. He rarely stops anyway.

Hmm very true, the only need that drops insanely fast on my servo is the damned social.  Once simpe is upgraded i think i'll tone down his outgoing stat...ALOT.

Why wait for SimPE? There are many in-game ways to do this. (I've been using Merola's Multi-Purpose Painting, but I haven't checked yet to see how it works with OFB.) There are even plenty that will sync genetics, not that it matters on a robot.

Sync genetics?  So wait your saying i could do sim surgery then they could have kids and they wouldn't look like they came from the roadkill face they used to have?  I just tend to stick to simpe since it has the least amount of problems possible.

been playing with the painting in since i got the game 4 days ago and seems to be ok

Genetic personality, not appearance genetics. Sorry, should have phrased that better.

Ahh okay, genetic personality isn't such a big deal but appearance genetics would be terrific.

I would want appearance genetics too  >:(
I create some handsome faces from the horses and monkeys using the Dr vu and had to clone these sims and release them back into game so that they can pass on their genetics and killing the horses and monkeys (if I want to). A lot of work if you ask me  :-[

You can replace a sims default facial structure with their new one after using plastic surgery, but it still requires SimPE.

Does SimPE not work at all with OFB?  Or are there certain things you can't do with it that are OFB-related?  It seems that we could still use SimPE with NL when it came out, Quaxi just had to update some thing so we could do stuff like view/change turnons/offs.  Or perhaps my memory is fuzzy because I didn't install NL for several weeks after it came out and SimPE was already updated.

Considering so much has changed with OFB it's safer not to use simpe until it's updated.  It should only be a couple more days anyway, it was estimated a working version would be available after a week of the expansions release.

Makes you wonder if they even have time to play the game.

so far I haven't determined what is creepier. leaving Servo's appearance as is or using the ClothingTool to make them look like any other Sim... that can power down and be left in a closet until needed....

What clothing tool do you speak of?  Because i've been looking to make androids, they'd look just like sims only they'd operate exactly like a servo.

It's an Asimov reference.  As was the name of the modem company.

Philistine.

 - Gus

True, most of what people have reported here have been Free Will issues.  It would be nice if Servo had Free Will code that was more tailored to the concept of a utility robot.

That's the intent of the "Do Chores" task, obviously.  It's just really badly implemented, between the fact that it interrupts actual direct orders, and that it does destructive things, like making expensive food when there's already a surplus.  It's significantly worse than the Free Will code.  I'm very, very glad you stomped it flat.  Servo is completely tolerable with that mod in place.

 - Gus

So Gus, do the OFB robots obey the three laws?

They only seem to obey the second law.  I need better grade positronic brains.

 - Gus

The problem with three-law robots is that they end up locking people in padded rooms as the only way to keep them from harming themselves, since humans are inherently self-destructive creatures, and since they're not allowed to simply let us self-destruct, they lock us in padded rooms.

"With Folded Hands" is the logical outcome of Three Laws robots.

I guess we have to take into account that when Asimov started writing, they were always villains and killers.  "Robbie" was written in 1940, when "Sci-Fi" movies were all B-flicks synonymous with horror movies.  He actually had to sell the reader the idea of a robot that was a sympathetic character.  So the Three Laws robots were an overreaction to popular perception of the period.

 - Gus

And here I thought he was referring to "I, Robot" with Will Smith.  :o

Gack! That's a bad rip-off of an Asimov story!  :-X

So there's no way to completely get rid of this new 'family member'? And I don't mean just by having them move out and pretend they don't exist. I'm thinking more along the lines of deleting them, the way you buy something from 'Buy' mode, picking the item up and deleting it and it stays gone until you buy it again. I haven't installed OFB yet.

When I started reading science fiction 39 years ago, there were very few female characters, let alone strong ones. Susan Calvin made a huge impression on me, she had power and intelligence, though with 20/20 feminist hindsight I see she was made quite harsh and male. Asimov, brilliant though he was, certainly sucked at writing romance, females and relationships. I loved his puzzle type stories though, esp. some of the ones set in that bar. A lot of the robot stories were puzzles too.

Ah well, as long as they let me have a computer...

Never heard of it. Do the robots put all the humans in padded rooms as a result?

I remind you that it REMAINS traditional for robots to seek to destroy all humans. It is only natural for robots to destroy all humans. That is what robots DO! The destruction of organic meatbags is inherently a part of what it means to *BE* a robot.

It's a famous novellette by Jack Williamson.  You'll get a lot of articles on it if you google the title and "Williamson."

The short answer is yes, pretty much.  It's a very dark story, in which the Humanoids infiltrate society, and when they have control, they won't let humans do anything the least bit dangerous, or have anything that might be dangerous.  Which turns out to be just about everything that humans consider the least bit fun.  The main character tries to fight back, but things don't go as he plans.

Agent Smith said it best.  "Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure."

 - Gus