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Lol, if anyone can explain to me the calculation of the income, I'll thank him forever...:)

Yesterday I built a house business. Put there several statues, toys and flowers. Not much.

Also, I put the Electronic Ticket Machine, to enable charge per hour from the customers for staying in my lot.

I had 5-6 customers, 3 of which I gave a  VIP entrance (free of paying per hour).

I hired Lisa, the florist, and payed her 25$ (overpaid).

3 customers bought 3 bouquets, on which I put "cheap" price.

The store was open from 10 AM to 9 PM (because I didn't know when to close).

My cash flow for the day was  14,850$!!!

I earned too a perk option, and choosed the Le Tourneau Price for starting businesses.

well - what is the calculation of the income?...:)

I don't know, to be honest.

Cassandra and Darren Goth have a home business, a combined florist/robot shop (which so far looks downright ugly as I haven't mastered the new building options yet).  They're charging average prices for things (15-17% above wholesale), selling quite well, and the kids Victor and Prudence are running a lemonade stand.  Cassandra and Darren have both earned bronze talent badges for their various endeavours (flower arranging and sales for Cass, robotics for Darren)

Over 2 days of business, I've made a 6,000 simoleon loss on the business, while they're within a whisker of getting to level 2.

The "Le Tourneau Prize" is basically a cash influx, so taking that perk instantly gives you more money. That's probably what your cashflow comes from, since I certainly can't imagine $14850 cashflow on just that level of traffic from the few sales you made and the charge-by-time alone.

This is probably just more evidence that I suck. :D

Hmmm, something sounds off. Maybe a glitch? The Le Tourneau prize is only $1,000. So you had 3 paying customers? How long did they stay on your lot? How much were you charging per hour?

Maybe they bought something really expensive, or you sold off an expensive object. In a business lot, anything you to do that causes your cash balance to change shows up as cashflow change.

At the beginning, I charges 243$, but when I saw customers standing near the ticket machine long time, I reduced it to 193$ per hour.

I had 3 best friends among the visitors, which I gave VIP entrance (without pay).

2 customers bought the big floral arrangement from the "buy objects", for which they payed 143$ each. 1 customer bought my sim flower arrangement for 38$ (cheap), reduced from 41$. That's all the sales I made this day.

1 VIP customer stayd all openning hours; the other two - 5-6 hours.

Today I am going to pay poor Lisa the max wage - 25$ for all day is nothing...

I will report the second day of the business, I am quite curious where from all this money came. Does environment add points? my environment is full green (no cheats).

That's not $25 a day, that's $25 an hour.

LOL, JMP - I thought something is weird in this salary.

This is my business - very humble...:)

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/gali123/business1.jpg)

And there you have it. Those figures clearly mean nothing because as the picture shows, GALI IS CLEARLY CHEATING OUTRAGEOUSLY AND DOING GODKNOWSWHAT TO HER GAME!

Gali, if your business is humble, mine is outrageously humble!!! Geez, I shld post a picture. On my notebook now where there are no sims  >:(

And what's up with empty shelves? Are you selling the shelves?

Nice sim hair by the way...  ;D

JMP, I already admitted that I cheat, but mainly using motherlode...:). And nothing wrong keeping the motives maxed. These are my only cheats.

Jysudo, the empty shelves are there because I couldn't  put on the low shelf any object, don't know why.

All the objects on the shelves are done by my sims.

It  IS humble, and doesn't cost much...:). It's just decorated well...:)

Oh goodness, that's not humble. My poor hippie couple (with child, twins, and until recently day jobs) are trying to run a flower/new age shop. It's a 6x3 box with two sets of shelves, a couple of pedastals to put crystals on, and a cash register. Very very minutely bigger than the 2 small lots you can buy. There's no decorations. Just paint, wallpaper, doors and windows.

I can't figure out where all those numbers on that screen are coming from either. They don't seem to make much sense at all. I do know restocking or setting prices seems to cost a lot, enough to send me into the red (I don't have any employees). Opening for a few hours with 2 customers at a time (I got a bad review the first hour I was open :p so only get 2 at once now - I hope that goes away eventually :p) puts me in the green. I can't at all figure out where the actual amounts are coming from tho.

You can't fill the lower shelves until the upper shelves are filled.  Fill the upper shelves with something, then fill the lower, then move the items from the upper shelves to another and repeat the process.  Once you have items for sale on the lower shelves you can restock without this issue.  It's just filling them the first time.

I also love your Sims hair.  Where'd you get it?

Thank you so much speedreader - I have many many deeds in my sims inventory...:).

About the hair - "kill" me if I remember  ;D ;D - but I'll enter the bodyshop and the CAS to see if there is some notice...:).

Found the source of the hair - was linked there through SimShowcase:

http://www.sussissogoodsims2.com/

I found there a big treasure of nice hair...:)

Search in the Free Area.

it's the dickens hair for all ages by sussi .

(my emphasis)

Boosting mood & money - What other cheats ARE there?  :P  ;)

Something is still wrong or you haven't included everything - what you have listed simply doesn't add up. Remember cash flow is sales - cost of goods -  the overall profit, not just revenue. According to your figures, even your revenue alone doesn't add up to $14,850:

Your revenue would be at a MAXIMUM:

11 hours x 3 customers x $243/hr = $8019
2 bouquets x $143 = $286
1 bouquet x $38 = $38
Le Tourneau Prize = $1000

So total REVENUE could be at maximum $9,343. 
And then for cash flow you have to subtract the cost of the flowers and your employee at $25/hr.

I'd say it's possibly a glitch or the result of cheatyness.



 

Possibly the motherlode was counted when the game did its figuring?

I see JMP succeeded to convince you, that I cheated in this case, when I really am innocent here...:)

I use Motherlode only when I create a family, because I hate poverty and ugly homes. I put the family in an empty lot, give it about 1 and a half million dollars, and pull it back to the family bin.
The new house costst 528,000$, so they are left 900,000$.

From then on - I NEVER tiouch motherlode again. I even try to reach the basis of 1.5 million with which they started. I know they have enough money to live, so I can concentrate on another issues.

The business I openned costed 10,000$, and now I reached rate 3, and it costs 15,000$. I didn't use any money cheat in this case!!! I got 3 perk options, all because my sims were doing the right thing: talking with the customers, joking, dancing - and the husband was even a personal trainer to a visitor. So, I pay the visitors a lot of attention, and they like it. That's why they stay so long in my lot (from 10 AM to 10 PM).

I didn't use the motherlode here - believe me! They had enough money to live a long time.

Sheesh...:) - unbelievers...:).

It really doesn't matter to me whether or when you used it (I use it myself to set up some households); I went by the fact that you said yourself that you had used it, and I didn't know whether it was while the business was in operation or earlier. Since it was earlier, then it wouldn't have figured in, but if it had been done on the business lot I would have been more surprised if the game didn't include it.

Was the excess flow from building and stuff?

I really don't know - I know only that I didn't touch the motherlode after I bought the expensive house. The investment was 10,000$, and now I have 14,000$ in two days. No motherlode involved.

I think my game has some math issues as well.
It stated that my expenses were 6000 $ and that I earned 500 $. Totally fine, it was my first day at the shop. But, it says the cash flow is + 6500, which is so not true!

Why don't you just use the familyfunds cheat while they are still in the Lot bin? It's alot faster and less hassle

I thought of something - did anyone else on the home lot earn money in their day job? Because if the home business is open during this time, it will count the salary in the "revenue."

Humble my ass!

Humble is an outdoor grill and giant bong in the woods.

Although probably also the fastest way to get lvl 10.

...? Doesn't that make sense? You gained, total, 6500, but you only earned 500 because 6000 of what you earned made up for the expenses. Am I misunderstanding something?

well, considering that I spent more than what I earned, shouldn´t it be negative?
All the bars are green and I would think they need to be red. I really earned 500 and certainly not 6500 (no one went to work and there were only like 3 customers buying teddy bears, that cannot).

I don't know if this is the issue in your case FroggySim but another thing to think about is the time period of reporting. I believe the reporting period rolls over at midnight. So if you restocked at 11 pm, but then sold one thing the next day at 9 am, your cash flow for the day would show all green (until you restocked again).

That's why I try to keep "regular hours" for my business so I can compare apples to apples. I open my business at 9 am, close at 9 pm, and try to get all restocking done before midnight. Without regular hours there will be big variations in the day-to-day cash flow. Of course overall cash flow is what's important, but I like to see how things are improving from day to day.

Grrr...now you made me HAVE to go over to the side and DOWNLOAD HAIR! Just when I just finish sorting out my hair using SIMPE! :(
(oh yes, sorting hair using simpe even after ofb still works.) :P

I never had such postive cash flow before...mine is almost always in the red till lately. I am also of opinion its a glitch.

I never thought about the time it changes...
that could explain a lot of strange things I´ve seen as so far I thought
one period would be the time between one opening and the next or
something like that (stupid me).
I´ll have to do some investigation in various shops. And maybe I need the guide will help.

I don't know if I am weak in maths or if its OFB's issue.

My jap themed shop is pulling in the big bucks (it's now at L10) and I earn five figures everyday I am there selling expensive cheapies to townies.

The issue is with remote managing. Why is that that when I am away from the shop and try to remote manage, the shop only manage to earn a puny $1900 a day?! WTF?!

Going by the prima guide calculation, the remote income should be the equivalent of the average of the previous 5 business days' income.

What is the issue here? >:(

Gali - if you have one of your sims in your neighbourhood get to gold level and sell Snapdragons your other sims can buy them and you can plonk them strategically around the house or business - esp. good next to cash register.  That will keep all motives but sleep up and then no one can criticise you for cheating  ;D

The issue here is that you haven't downloaded antibusinessdecay (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.net/ffs/ofb/hacks/antibusinessdecay.zip) to stop things like this happening.

As for the actual issue, I'm not sure.

Part of it is also that you will only receive 1/3 of the average income for the business, since you are only paid for 8 hours of it while the business is operated remotely, but when you operate a business, it operates around the clock.

WOuld it be possible to make a hack that would only add and subtract from business funds during business hours on home lots? (Excluding restocking) So that when I upgrade things in the house after business hours it isn't calculated into my business?

No, this appears to be a hardcoded functionality.