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I've been just playing my sims and i went to buy a aspiration reward, by default it's set on the inventory.  I saw my sim had some tvs and computers i thought that's odd why's she have those?  I went to my other sim and surprise surprise he has about half a dozen wall mounted tvs in his inventory.  This is all stuff i sold to these sims in one of my businesses.  What's worse i guess is it's essentially free money, i might as well be cheating for cash if i sell these items.

I assume this isn't only me right?  So is there any way we can get a fix for this so we don't have assloads of items put in our sims inventory that they didn't deserve?

There's a new trash can feature (I think it's new) in the inventory so you can just ditch the repeated/unearned items for no cost/refund. I read this in the manual, and have trashed some items and kept others. If you take the items out, then you'll be charged.

Oh, cool didn't notice that thanks for the help, I'll give it a try.

I wonder if this is where the stolen stuff is going???  Have you had shoplifters?

Update: Nope just checked, I have no stolen items in my sims inventory  :-[

The cost of the items is deducted from the buyers money. The game jsut lets you sell it back so your CAS sims don't fuck themselves too badly.

The funny thing is the game is supposed to have a 3 item limit. i.e. if a sim comes on your lot and buys 10 things, only the last 3 will be in invintory. Each time they buy a new item an old one gets bumped and sold back.

Naturally, this feature doesn't work in any way shape or form. Its fun clearing 20 items out of every sim on a lot because they shop a lot.


Wonder if its broken for towniees too. Towniees that its not broken for could come into ahouse with immense numbers of objects bought for free.

In that case, somewhere out there, a townie has about 30 puddles of vintage Brynne pee.

Unless the towniee was using them as beverages or bathwater.

Hmm how exactly does the delete button work?  I can select something and hit delete on the keyboard then it gives a bunch of cash and removes the item.  sanmonroe are you sure it deducts the money from your sims when the items are bought?  Because if that's true their falling short, i got a ton of computers the shop sells them for about 3.1k and i can sell em out of the inventory for about 2.2k.

Ya know, as much as I hate free money, ( in the game that is ) I kinda like having those items there. I'll just keep them for a money emergency.

Ok lets make sure we are talking about the same thing.

When a sim comes onto your lot and buys something, say for 10$, the owner gains 10$ and has one item needing restock.

If you then load up the house of the sim who bought it, that sim now has 10$ less than before. They actually spent the money.

Now, supposedly the game limits you to only 3 items worth a max of 20% of the buyers lot value. If a fourth item is bought the first is sold back at full price.

This doesn't actually work.


Now, since Maxis realized that sims were stupid and would bankrupt themselves since they were bound to screw up the programming controlling spending behavior, they made it so you can sell the items your sims bought right out of thier personal inventory. If you do that you get a full refund.

The original seller does not lose the money ona  refund, the game just pretends a townee bought it.

Hmm. Probably the game has no way to record how much items cost on other lots. They probably are refunding you the normal price not the spent price.

If so, its another bug.

Hmm i think i understand, i don't think my sims have any less money than they had though.  I'm going to have to check it out next time i go into my business and sell stuff, i'll have to record the exact dollar amounts.

I guess the inventory cleaning is a price to pay for having almost all your sims controllable.  Oh well, it's better than having a bunch of Townies with the same personality hating my shops.

Hopefully there will be a hack like no20khandout that will stop this silly behavior.  I personally only want sims to keep items that they buy when I'm controlling them, that way they're not getting the item for reduced cost.

Okay i have confirmed as sanmonroe previously said money is deducted from that sim when an item is sold to them.  I could not confirm however if the price matched the sale price which in turn evens your bank balance.  Reason being is i already had so much stuff in the inventory.

I suppose one answer is to keep your playable sims very short of ready cash! 

That might not even work it would need testing but i suspect they would go into minus.  Unless Maxis set it up so when a sim doesn't have the cash to buy stuff they "just browse".

Well, they don't have a minus, do they?  Except in the business console, that is.  But if your sim is at work, has 85 simoleons in the kitty and loses 1,000 while at work, in fact he only loses the 85 that are there and when he comes home he is paid as normal.

Oh that's right i forgot they don't allow them to dip into minus, heh that was always fun with sims 1.

I don't remember that!

Yeah, no shit. If sims had realistic spending behaviors, only townies would be able to buy things, since your REGULAR sims tend to come with furnished homes. You'd need to create a new functionality, a shopping list, that would cause sims to buy things that are on their list of stuff to buy.

Otherwise they'd buy a million tons of junk. Because they don't have any shopping habits, and insist on buying things which COST MONEY, which is to be avoided!

I am astonished and slightly incredulous that you can actually mark puddles for sale. (But what I really want to know is how you're running BlueSoup's, er, fight club. I suppose it's just a ticketed venue where you've turned her loose to do what apparently comes naturally? ;))

Clearly, I need to hurry up with my disk space clearing so I can defrag and install the EP, and then I, too, could be seeing what ridiculous businesses I can create in my test neighborhood while I learn how not to break the game for my real families. Now, if only I could find a torrent for the strategy guide so I could read it while I wait for goddamn Ingram Books to cough it up to fill my order at work. :P

Well, pretty much. I open it at night, invite BlueSoup over and let her in for free, and then being a vampire, with naturally no decay, she always has great mood and thus high customer loyalty.

There is, of course, nothing of any actual use on the lot. So BlueSoup just stands there, not having anything to distract her. She's happy doing this, because her motives aren't dropping.

Other people come. BlueSoup now has something to do. She attacks!

That must be fun to watch... but is it profitable?

I'm reminded that when I was bored at work I was trying to decide which aspiration would be best for racking up influence points to run a dating service venue (by way of Influence to... Flirt and so on). Probably Popularity.

Of course it's profitable. It can't NOT be profitable, there aren't any employees or costs.

Just don't spend any money, don't pay a maid, don't restock the fridge - all those costs will knock your profits down again!

Dammit - my sims are always very short of cash.  I like them that way.  If this EP screws up my carefully balanced sim financial management system, I'm going to be very annoyed.  I've not installed OFB yet - it's sitting there on the shelf, all orange and stuff.

Well, unless I can sort out the bugs, it's not staying taking up computer space for much longer!  Has ANYONE found out how to  cook stuff and get it into the inventory, and then to be able to restock afterwards?  the only way I can get meals into the inventory is to follow the cook around and grab all the plates, put them in the inventory and then, if I tell her to restock, it says there aren't any crafted items in the inventory.  Lilith has bought a cafe, not a florists - she wants take away meals!  I think she's just going to have a coffee bar and have done with it.....And when stuff breaks, you can't call a repairman from a community lot, so you have to take the broken objects home in the inventory!

ZZ do you mean custom content food? Standard Maxis meals go into the inventory of the owner of the business.  So if Daniel owned the business, all Lilleth's cooked meals would be in his inventory. This happens automatically.  If it isn't happening then something's wrong. 

I am trying to have a home business for Brandi Broke. She came with 8 cooking skill points so I thought she could start an at-home bakery. I have the open/close sign, I have a cash register, I have one of those food display cases with food in it that Brandi "made many" with - took out of inventory and put in the case. The customers show up and then NOTHING. There are no "sales" socials. I get no clickable options on the food display case. How do you sell the stuff? I had Dustin standing at the cash register for hours.  And of course, my preordered Prima Guide still hasn't shown up....^$#^% preorder from Gamespot.

Have you registered your business on telephone or computer ?

Yeah. Couldn't figure out why the open/closed sign wasn't working and then one of those game tips mentioned registering by phone. After I did that, I could open the business and customers showed up. Couldn't sell them anything.

Lilith lives with the Oldies, and it's actually her business.  But I found that an  employee could make the meals and they would appear in the inventory.  However, until I reinstalled I wasn't getting the option.   Now I get all the management options, but the Burbs are screwed up!

I don't get any of the management options.  Does this mean I have to reinstall? >:(

If your sure you got no hack conflicts then you probably need to reinstall.


Can anyone tell me how to get only 2 out of 4 sims to the community lot business?  Everytime i try, i either only get 1 sim or all of them.  I tried putting the two i want in their car and saying drive to community lot then select multiple sims but it drags everyone along.  And when i select just (sim name) it only takes that sim along.

Edit:  Hmm seems the taxi works fine but drivable cars do not.

Don't drive to comm lots. Maxis fucked up and you may get bugged and lose that household until they come out witha  patch.

Take the taxi. You can bring multiples by "invite another sim".

I've driven to the community lot over a dozen times and not once has it screwed up.  Other people haven't had problems either while some people have.  I guess it's another one of those bugs where some get it, some don't.

Actually, *DO* drive to comm lots. I need a conclusive, reliable sample of a buggered up lot that I can dissect. Unless you wanna wait a month or two for Maxis to find it and fix it.

What are you looking for exactly, just reports that all add up, or someone to actually send you something? I was already planning to follow the steps to replicate the bug as I understand them as soon as I get the game installed (freed up the disk space for defrag and now waiting for the computer to deign to actually finish the job).

(Also: Bippy?)

Ok, I figured out the other night that when my boy was stocking robots they were coming out of my owner's inventory, but my owner only makes robots. His daughter and wife make the flowers and toys. If I want them to go into his inventory, do I need to be on the business lot when they are made?

Sara, I'm not sure that I understand your question - I'm having a groggy brain moment.  Is the father the only business owner?  If so, all items made using the 'make many' or 'make one' instruction will go into his inventory, irregardless of what type of item made; so it could be cakes, flowers, or toys.   I don't think where the goods are made matters, the stock available stock is always stored in the owner's inventory. (That's what the tutorial popup said).  Don't take my word for it though, because I don't have a Prima Guide.

I'm not sure what happens if more than one person has business deeds on a lot.  I don't think where the goods are made matters, the stock available is stored in the owner's inventory. It would be great if there was an option to choose whose inventory it goes into.

Supposedly if you save while at a comm lot with your car, then exit the game (or crash, or whatever) you cannot come back to the lot or the shop.

Sara, If you make items on a home lot, and your business is on a another lot, you need to either make sure its the owner that makes the items alone, or move the items from the other peoples inventories to his, before he goes to "work" on the business...

If you are crafting stuff on the business lot, or it is a home business, then all items should automatically be placed in the owners inventory.

By the way, if you have the business on a commercial lot, and your doing crafting at home with the whole family, you are going to frigging hate!!! the inventory system as it works right now. I wasnt aware that the craftet stuff went to the crafters inventory and not the business owners when on the home lot, so I had to move around 200 objects one by one, by one, by one, by one to the business owners inventory. Talk about tedius business.
I really really wish that they had implementet two things with the OFB pack: 1, that all craftet items went to a seperate business inventory, and 2: That it was possible to hand over that entire inventory in one action.

Perhaps the later can be modded somehow, so that one sim can hand all in his/her inventory to another sim in one swift click?  (hint hint JMP ;)  )

I just wish that when your sim owner needs a lot of crafted items for restocking, he/she could "Make Many varied XXXs"  Otherwise you have to keep stopping them and changing the instruction.  And a busy day with good sales technique and your inventory could soon be empty.

As to the problem regarding management, i had that problem too, and did a reinstall after removing all my hacks and putting them back a few at a time.  I'm pleased to say that all management options show up now, and Pescado's hacks are working fine.  I'm still not sure if it's a hack at all (I still had the problem after removing the hacks and before reinstalling, I checked) so I do think that sometimes the first install is faulty - that happened for me with Uni and NL too.

I haven't had the problem with cars, but that's because I haven't any cars in this new test hood, but I did get a severe problem with the Burbs and a taxi, which I think was initially caused through little madam Lucy Burb attempting to jump on the Burbs' bed.  I redirected her to do something else, but after that the Burbs all kept jumping out of their actions, and then the car failed to show up for John to go to work.  In the end I had to move them to another lot and bulldoze the one they were living on. 

I thought it was save related i remember reading something about that.  I'm not the kind of person that saves on a community lot.  When i drive to a business my sim stays there from around 9-5 then she goes home i finish my sim day THEN i save.  I save every sim day at night, when there's nothing going on to prevent screw ups.

Yes, the prblem is definitely related to leaving your sim on the lot and saving.  In fact, I got a pop-up when I did this to tell me to go back to that lot first so the sim could go home - mind you, this was with a taxi.

Ok, thank you. That will save annoyances.

Actually, your sims can dip into the minus when it comes to buying from the home catalog.  You need to use the clone tool to make it happen, though.

Ordinarilly, the same thing happens in TS2 that happened in TS1.  If they don't have the cash, the object can't be purchased.

That's pretty funny. Now to go and see if I can make saleable that bag of dung you get as a reward for having a crap date, and then I can make a Poo and Wee shop.