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Graduation parties now correctly display Graduation Party memories instead of just regular "Party" memories.

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Graduation Party Memory Fix for TS2U v1.0 - TS2NL v1.0p2
Made by: Flying Fish Systems (J. M. Pescado)

Congratulations to: Draklixa!

INSTRUCTIONS:
Place in your MYDOCU~1\EAGAME~1\THESIM~1\DOWNLO~1 directory.

FEATURES:
Graduation parties now correctly generate the formerly never-ever-seen
graduation party memories (good/bad).

COMPATIBILITY:
This hack is fully compatible with all FFS hacks. Tested for TS2NL v1.0p2.
Required Uni to actually do something.

SIDE EFFECTS:
May cause computer damage, incontinence, explosion of user's head, coma, death,
and/or halitosis.

WARNING:
Do not open, crush, dispose of in fire, put in backwards, short-circuit, or mix
with non-awesome hacks - may explode, leak, or catch fire, resulting in injury
and/or death.

Great!  Thank you - I know I'm not supposed to just say it, but it's about time I said thanks instead of trying to annoy you!  So

THANKS!!!

Have wanted this for SO long.  The number of times I have had to write down the names of everyone on the lot (sometimes in excess of 40 people) and go through all their memories ... in fact, since restarting Pleasantview I haven't had a single grad party because I just couldn't be arsed to do it.  WHY didn't Maxis fix this???  And this isn't the only memory that's never used, as I recall.  Why do I think that the entire game was never quite finished when it was first released??? 

Any chance you can fix the other major bug they never fixed, the one that forces them to have a memory of a lower diploma than they actually got when they move back to the neighbourhood?  It only seems to happen when they move into a new lot, not if they go back to their parents' lot.  That's a major pain too because it means having to immediately leave the lot and go into SimPE before they pass the false memory on to all and sundry.  Sometimes I've even had graduates move when they've been almost elders and it's happened. 

Ooh! Nice one! Thanks :)

Never seen this one. Can't imagine why you'd see it, since the graduation memory is set the moment you return from your final, "Graduated Blah Blah Blah". Are you saying that actually CHANGES?

I must say I've never seen it.  The only memories I've had change are ones I've changed myself!  Only thing that occurs to me, is if you've had the original diploma stolen, and replaced it with a buyable, maybe that affected it in some way.  Still odd, though, and it would be nice to know the answer.

I didn't pay attention to if it only happens when it's a new lot, but is that the extra graduation memory they get whenever they move? Like, they graduated with the highest honours but when they move into a new place, they get an additional memory but with a lower honour? I vaguely recall their relatives getting the extra memory of '[insert name] graduated blah blah' too. I remember seeing it because I remember you mentioning it.

I'll have to check Keanu Broke when I go into Pleasantview again.  He's so far moved at least three times since graduating as he started out living with Dustin and Dustin's wife and helped with the baby, then he moved in with Beau for the same reason, and finally got his own house  so his girlfriend and his little girl could move in with him!

Thank you, this is great.

Thank you soooo much for this!  I could have used this last night when I had a graduation party, but I still have several more to go.  It always bugged me when they got a memory of a "great party" and not a "great graduation party!"  Now if you could fix the part where they don't get a want for a graduation party, just a generic party want sometimes.

This is Great! Fantastic Hack, as always.

But on a related note, do you think you could do something about the situation where only one sim graduates per graduation party, despite the fact that a lot of other sims on the lot should also be graduates. It's a particularly annoying issue when you have 8 sims, each of which should be graduating, and instead of having an all-encompassing party, you're left with either graduating the rest w/out fanfare, or throwing a party for each and every one of them.  :(

That would be great.  I'm not sure if it can be modded though.  When this issue was brought up with Maxoid Tom, he implied this was WAD.

Not so much changes, as spawns a new one, which is usually two below what they actually got, so they end-up with two.  So, if they graduated Summa Cum Laude, when they move into their own place afterwards they will get a memory that they just graduated.  Not only do they get it, so do all their family members.  The original one stays.  This is what causes Family Sims to be able to graduate 3 kids when they've only graduated 2, because once the first moves into their own place, they get this extra memory.  So far I've yet to see what happens with a Sim who merely "Graduated".  Maybe it will say they never went to college at all.

Oh, and I'd like to echo the request for the Graduation Party want.  Mine never get that, as I've said before, when they come back after graduating they will suddenly decide they want a sports party or an ordinary party (or both), so they're obviously trying to say they want a Graduation Party but they can't.  As I have very few Sims who actually ask to graduate, quite often by this time they're very low in aspiration so they need this graduation party want. 

I've actually seen the extra graduation memory as well.  My very first Uni grad got it, and if I recall...I believe he was moved into a new house after graduation.  He graduated Summa Cum Loude, and had that memory, but also had a memory of graduating Cum Loude, a few spaces after the real memory.  I've seen it a few other times as well, but didn't really pay much attention.  :-\

Some of my Sims get double grad memories after moving out. This can be long after returning to the main 'hood.  As reported it is always a lower rank than the original, and all family also gets this duplicate.

I just had a graduation party for one of my sims, and it was a real treat to get to see the great graduation party icon in her thought bubble.  I didn't even recognize it at first--I had to pause and zoom in!  I finally got to read the text of the memory in-game.  So thank you, this is great!  :)

Well, if you're all right, I suppose the only answer is either to never move your sims from one lot to another after they graduate, or to spend a lot of time in simPE correcting everyone's memories!  At least until someone comes up with a fix!

Ancient Sim : as I said in another post it seems (in my game at least) that the double graduation memory is caused by notelepathy. As soon as I removed no telepathy from my downloads folder, my sims stopped to have this extra memory with lower grade.
Pioupiou.

Explains why I never noticed it!

I've never had notelepathy installed in my game and I get the double graduation memory. I can move them into a new house directly after they return from Uni and there's no extra memory. But if they move after that they get it, with the reduced honour.

I've never had that hack either...although I have lots of other ones.  So it very well may be a different one causing the problem, I just never paid enough attention to see when it happens, or even to deduce why.  I'll probably pay more attention from this point though. :-\

I just had this happen also with Dirk Dreamer and his wife. It is the first time I ever moved a family into a new house after they had been placed after college.Their kids are going through college now and they and the rest of the extended family all have the memory of them graduating cum laude when in fact they graduated summa cum laude along time before.I just thought it was my game being wierd again.But now I am thinking it is another Stupid bug.

Well, I've just moved river and Ruby Finn from their starter home into a new Big House as he's nearly made the Mayor's Office.  I checked their memories in game - no mention of a Graduating again.  I closed the game and checked in simPE, and again, no memory of either graduating a second time with a lower degree, or one of the other half of the couple doing so.

On the other hand - River, who has always been Popularity, is flagged as Knowledge!  Now, I've seen this with a lot of Maxis sims, but never one of my own CAS ones.  And dince Ruby is Family, then if he was Knowledge, I should be able to get them up to 3 LBs, and I can't get them past 2!

But as far as the graduation memory is concerned, either it isn't bugged in my game, or else it's a random occurrence.

But poor Ruby has now tried 6 times for a baby and is still showing no signs of being pregnant!  I think she may have to play away!  On the other hand, their friend Aron has just given birth to twins (thanks to TJs pregnancy for All)!  Maybe I'll have better luck if I flag Ruby as Male in simPE!

I've never had notelepathy in my game either, so it certainly isn't that in my case.  I can't really think of anything I have that would cause it, but I know it's always happened.  I did have one group of grads it didn't happen to recently, but only the one, and at the time I couldn't think of anything different about them that might have stopped it happening.  It doesn't happen if they move back into their own family lot incidentally, but it does if they subsequently move out and into their own place, however much later that may be.  As I think I mentioned, I've had Sims almost on the point of becoming elders who've suddenly graduated again because they've moved house.

Maybe with my couple it's because they're CAS sims and the only family they have apart from each other is back at Uni still.

On the other hand, you may well be using a hack in your game that I'm not, which may be either causing it to happen or having conflicts with another hack.    But I can understand how annoying it must be to constantly have to go into SimPE to delete all that spam!

Downloading, although I currently have an issue with Grad parties (meh, I hardly ever bother with any parties anymore, anyway).

Most of my sims go through Uni in batches of 4 or so students, and tend to stay in some sort of time sync all the way through courtesy of the college clock.  When they all graduate though, no one gets an option to throw a grad party until at least one sim has returned to the home neighbourhood.  So at least one sim will miss out on that last shindig.

Also (although for all I know this one's already been fixed), when I first got Uni, every time I had a group of students graduate, and (prior to the lack of grad party option problem) throw a party, only the sim throwing the party will put on the grad cap and gown, then age up and leave at the end of the party.  I thought sims they were friends with were also meant to put on the cap and gown and actually 'graduate' together.

Does that make sense?

This appears to be by-design, as opposed to a bug. Graduation parties graduate sims one at a time, a rather annoying feature which greatly detracts from the value of graduation parties, since it's only feasible to throw them if one or two people are graduating, since otherwise it will take FOREVER to throw 8 parties given that you might be able to fit in maybe one or two a day before it's too late to party.

I suppose they did it that way because of the limit on guests.  I tend to throw the party for the sim who wants to party, not for those who don't.  And often, if I'm graduating an engaged couple who share a house, I throw the party for one, move him or her back to the home neighbourhood, then get the fiance/fiancee to phone for a cab to take them back too.

Maxoid Tom said at first that it should graduate all sims who had eligible at one time when you threw the party, then when someone pointed out that this wasn't happening, he went and asked and came back and said this was apparently as designed.   ::)

In my game, I have noticed that NPCs such as the cheerleader or mascot will change into cap and gown if they are friends with the graduate, but not any of my playable sims regardless of how high their relationship is.  I had gotten so used to it not happening that I was surprised when the cheerleader showed up in cap and gown at one of my sims parties.  I realized that is what was happening later when the llama mascot did the same thing.  Weird.

Well that's just ... dumb and stuff.

Even if multiple sims can't age transition at the same time at the party, why should the mascot and cheerleader get special privileges and change into the cap and gown when their best friend, who they've known since they were toddlers (ok, children) can't?

Good question, Vecki!

I know, Captain Obvious at work again :D

I concur, with the being dumb and stuff. Despite being Obvious, something must be obscuring Maxian vision. :P Yeah, I know we/I bitch about it. I still love the game, and without Maxis/EA, the game wouldn't exist in the first place. But we/I also love to bitch and complain too. ;D

Anyways, I wouldn't think that it should be that hard to have parties be a collective thing. Like those damned Sports Party wants. If you're all living in the same household, wouldn't it make sense that, having a party in that household should satisfy all of those sims wants? It can't be that hard to do, can it? Why does the party only have to count for the sim that does the inviting?

And, as for the multiple Age Transitioning, well... if you have twins (or trips or quads for that matter), you can have multiple age transitions at a Birthday Party. So why can't they have more than one during a Grad Party? Bleh.

If I'm super bored (I always am) and have time (I never do, well I really shouldn't :P) and feel masochistic (modding is such a pain in the ass, but I don't which is more painful, modding or playing the game when you feel like things should be corrected :P) maybe I'll try and take a look at this. Perhaps I can start simple and see if I can get all party wants to be satisfied. That shouldn't be that hard to do. Then see about this graduating thing.

Can someone describe to me, what exactly happens in a grad party anyways? Do the sims auto Age Transition at the end? Are there any special event movies for them? If so, is the Age Transition and/or movies only for the Sim who initiated the Party i.e. invited the party goers? Is the party immediately followed up by an Age Transition and/or Move Out? If that's the case, it probably would be a pain to have to deal with a dialog box for moving out each individual sim at the time. That is probably why they handle sims individually.

Ste

Yes.  I believe there is a cinematic, but I haven't seen it.  After the sim gets the party score rating box, they get an icon in their queue that has a graduation cap and says "Graduate," which pretty much interrupts whatever they are doing--eating, sleeping, woohooing, etc.--and they come to a standstill.  Then they age transition.  If you have JM's clothing mod globals, this is when it kicks in and you pick all the adult everyday, formal, undies, etc. you want them to wear, and change appearance.  Then the message comes up that a taxi has arrived to take so-and-so back to the home neighborhood.  The sim then makes the final walk to the cab, gets in, and disappears (although they still appear to be on the lot with Merola's mirror or Inge's teleporter until you save and reload the lot, for some reason. ???)  Then you get a message saying so-and-so has returned to the home neighborhood, and you can find them in the sim bin and move them in blah blah.  That's pretty much it. 

You're probably right about it being too complicated for the game to handle multiple transitions and moving them back to the neighborhood.  But it still sucks.  :D

It's like when you move your sim to college in the first place - if you send a group together, only one gets seen off by a parent, the others just get out of the taxi, parent leaves, other teens transition and that pretty much it!  And if you send just one and move them into an inhabited house or dorm, they don't get seen off either!  Now, wouldn't you think, if Dustin's living in the house and Brandi arrives to say goodbye to Beau, that she'd pop in to say hallo to Dustin?

Well, the same thing would go for any of them, not just Brandi. :P

True, that was just an example, which came to mind because, unless she gets married again and has a new family, she's forever calling round uninvited - frequently at midnight!

She showed up at Darren Dreamer's place at 2 am wanting to be let in, then promptly going home after he greeted her.

They got married the next day.   :P

I have had a few parties in uni (just sports ones) and even if the party is a disaster my sim gets a 'had a great party' memory. I'm not sure if it is to do with this hack, but I must say I've never noticed it doing that before. If the party sucked-they got a memory that it sucked.