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A sim teen boy's face suddenly disappeared when I loaded the game after a few days break. He has a custom skin, but I didn't delete anything from the game during the time. I'm not sure, but I think I have other sims with the same skin in the game but they are not affected.

What can I do? :( Is there a way to change his skin or something?

I wanted to attach pics but apparently that's not allowed. Anyway, the shape of his face is there and it's all blue, sometimes it moves a bit too slow.

Did you use a default Maxis head, or a custom head?

I would think that if you get the plastic surgery for teens hack, you could use the plastic surgery table (buyable collection) to give him a new one.

I don't feel so comfortable, as it is the second time I recommend: download for 24 hours the Enhanser, choose "character", and click on "Fix Tumbnail". When you enter the game, it will generate the face. If it was a custom skin, it will choose default one.

Or, go first to the mirror, and order "change appereance" - may be that will help.

I had that but it was when I grew adult CAS people back into a teen or child with the insimenator Just click on a mirror and click change appearence you don't even have to change it and when it laods back up the guy should have a face again.

thank you, changing appearance helped :)

i should have thought of that myself.

Just wondering out-loud:

I wonder if this problem is related to the "charred face" problem that occurs from time to time?  After a Sim gets a survivable shock via an electircal appliance, their face becomes blackened.  Sometimes, even after taking a shower, their face stays charred.  The player has to use the mirror to "Change Appearence" to get it to go away.

I had an alien teen lose his face at one point.  I'd change his appearance and the problem would come back again whenever he came home from school or work.  He went from having an alien face to having a default human face at the end of his teen years.  Makes a handsome guy though, when he went off to college the problem ceased and he had a human face with alien skin and eyes.   ;D

Since installing NL I have had issues myself where teen heads suddenly become flashing blue heads...no custom skins or anything.  The problem corrects itself at age transition...not sure what the deal is with that..haven't tried change appearance with the mirror on them so maybe that would work.

Just in case anyone was curious, something like this?

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Change appearance does work, but it occasionally reoccurs to the same teen upon reloading the lot. He's never been charred and was eating pizza when I first entered the lot.

Well, now I've seen everything!  It's certainly never happened to any of my teens!  Maybe it happens if you use the Inteenimator?

Is the heas completely invisible?  In that case it might be an objects.package issue.

I've had a similar incident to the blue face.  Strandely it happened when I subfoldered all my terrain paint, and when I re-entered the lot my sim's (default maxsis) beard had gone 2D and blue and hovered behind him when he walked.

If it is an objects.package issue, you need to check if your objects.package files are set to read only.  If not, they could have been corrupted, and you would need to find the originals on the CDs and replace them.  (There's one for The Sims, one for Uni and one for NL.)

I don't think I ever got a blue face...as this was pre-NL...but there was no face at all...maybe it was a objects.package issue... but I guess it's a bit late now, the teen's happily married and has kids of his own... :P
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Pity, you could have made a storyline for The Invisible Sim!

Yeah I probably could've.  :D

Shame!  You may never get the chance again!  But there's always Supersim!  or Wondersimwoman!

Or Boba Fett the Space Pirate Criminal Mastermind and his sidekick Starboy the Space Biker.   ::)

Very ture! ;D

That is what happens to mine!  Only happens to teens so far in my game and always corrects itself and doesn't come back after age transitioning.

This happened to Cassandra when I changed her to a kid again, her face disappeared completely, and change appearance worked like a charm.

Normally, objects flash blue if they are missing a texture, right? So maybe his face texture is missing? I remember simmer's complaining about the TV flashing blue when trying to have their sims play the Urbz from that new (at the time) download, but I forgot the reason why it did the such.

I beleive the Urbz was bugged!

I've had the blue face problem when I've used the sim surgery option in SimPE to export my made-in-game sims into premade sims that I could select again when I was using CAS.  (That's really not clear, so here's the explanation:  I wanted to make movies with some of the sims I already had, who had been born into my game, but I knew that trying to do it on the lots where the sims lived wasn't feasible, especially since all of the sims I wanted to use in movies did not live on the same lot.  So I used sim surgery to export them so I could create exact clones in a different neighborhood to make movies with them)

It was an old version of SimPE, and it really ended up causing problems for my game, since the Saved Sim files became corrupt (or something) and it ended up really screwing up the actual sims I had used, as well as making CAS and Body Shop crash upon loading.

If you've used SimPE in such a manner, I'd advise removing all those files from your Saved Sims folder and rechecking all the sims you used to see if they suffered any problems.  I don't know if a more recent version of this corrected this problem.

Well, I've been using the latest version with no problems, but there was one version which had known problems and was withdrawn fairly quickly.   The version I have has a pop-up on loading to let you know if there's a newer version available.  I also only normally use the classic version, as the new format seems to get stuck on pages and there's no way out!

It shouldn't I've usedthat ever since I first bought the game, I have my face completely disapear but enver had bluesyndrome

Well, it was just a suggestion!  But maybe it is the objects.package?

I don't know what caused mine, I hadn't deleted anything he was using (default everything except maybe hair and clothes?)

It did happen in my screwy neighbourhood though...

I've had a Sim develop Missing Face Syndrome, too ~ gaping hole, not the blue flashing. Since he was just visiting the lot I was playing at the time, I didn't nab him and try the mirror. BUT, when I went to his home lot, he was fine, face and all. I don't sweat things that go away on their own...enough other crap to sweat.

For me, it wasn't an objects.package issue, since that is always marked read-only. It hasn't happened again, so I figure it was just a minor hiccup.

Lord Almighty.  Is there nothing you people will NOT blame on InTeen here?  I forgot to mention in the release notes that InTeen causes world hunger, pestilence, and kills small puppies.

Heh. I haven't seen where someone's claimed it does that stuff. Pescado just says it's Non-Awesome.

I had a sim walk by a lot, and she did have her face, but she had no hair (Maxis hair too).  However, once I went back to her lot, she had her hair back again!   As you say, minor glitches, perhaps they happen more when you've had the game running a while and memory is getting a bit low?

I guess InTeen is just a convenient hack to blame since JM doesn't like it or the InSimenator.  True there has been a few conflicts, but Eric and Jase have always been good about working those out, and I am very happy with them.  I don't actually use InTeen myself anymore, since Woohoo Teens does what I need right now. :)

As for the blue face, that has to be a missing texture.  I've never seen it on a sim, but I've seen it a lot on objects, especially after installing Uni when Maxis changed stuff.  When GloamingMerle released his Laverwinkle alien replacement skin, one person had a problem with his alien teen having a green face.  We finally figured out this was because he was using Paradise Sims anatomically correct default replacement skins, which happened to include a default alien replacement as well.  The Paradise alien skin did not include a face for the alien skin since it only changed the body skin to have the anatomical bits, so it fell back to the normal skin tone color.  I share this just in case it might help someone here track down the problem.  I would have never guessed the alien skin was included in the package with the other skin tones, but when I went to the Paradise website, it became clear when it said the first pack contained S1, S2, and alien.

I had a teen girl's face turn blue after installing NL. No CC, I just went to change appearance. Though it was late into adulthood when I realised she had no eyebrows...

I've got a toddler in bodyshop with no hair - not blue, just not there. One of the original Maxis ones. And if you choose that one to attempt to do anything about it, the program crashes.

Chee-z, do you know where the pirate clothes came from? I have one in the closet, but can't remember for the life of me where I got it!

Hmm..having a faceless guy in the house sounds fun. Makes a wonderful Invisible Man story :D

Is that one of the ones from Chinafan Sims?

I got a blue-flashing face for the first time last night! On the same guy who sometimes shows up as a visitor without a face. So the two are apparently related. As usual, his face returned to normal when I grabbed him with the Mind-Control Mirror and sent him to Change Appearance.

This happened on a first-startup, small lot with only two resident Sims, so it wasn't a memory issue (I have 1.5GB RAM).  Also, he's a Maxis Sim, former NPC...Stepen Gothier. I moved him in as a roommate for an Elder widower some time ago, but the Missing Face bit just started about a month ago. And it's always him.  ???

Does it count as "necromancy" if a thread is less than a month old?   ;D

I had the gaping hole manifest itself for the first time yesterday.  John Burb's son Terry, on his transition to a toddler, had no face -- not that it made any difference to the yowling and whining, worse luck.  Exiting without saving and doing the transition over again didn't help.  I unlocked the plastic surgery device and his face was there, so I made no changes.  That didn't work either, so I used it again by carefully twitching his cheeks then setting them back to their original chipmunk proportions.  That fixed the problem.

My objects.package files for all expansions have been set to read-only for months, so who knows what the issue was?

This usually happens if you age a Maxis-made sim backwards to where the game does not have a face stored for them.  Using a mirror to change appearance usually fixes the problem, at least it has for me.  This forces the game to generate a face.

I don't think it's NL related as I had Johnny Smith do the blue face thing way back when and all I had at the time was base game, no hacks, mods, or custom content of any kind. Using the mirror fixed it.

That's why my puppie died.  :'(

But seriously, I combine all of the Awesome One's awesomeness, some of TwoJeffs' awesomeness, some of Crammyboy's awesomeness, some of Eric's awesomeness, a little bit of Inge's awesomeness, and some other random crap, and my game works fine.

As for the flashing blue face thing, I had ages a man down to toddler using SimPE, and he had a blue face floating above his head.  I saved and quit and it was normal when I came back.

I've had a house that had 3 teens all at some point develope "the Matrix" Face! Changing appearance in the mirror fixes it. Not using Inteen or Insim, no aging up or down, but I am using custom default skins (AllenABQ's I think).

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There is no face.

Heheh, I saw that texture on a baby bed recolor I downloaded once.  I never investigated it, but I figured it was a missing texture.

Hmm...I've had that show up on a zecutime chair I downloaded ???

Had the "matrix face" show up on Ricky Cormier after I sent him to UNI, when he transitioned from YA to Adult.   Luckily it went away as soon as I moved him into his own place.    (And I was using his default hair and skin, so you can't blame it on CC.)

I had the "matrix face" thing happen to one of my sims, born in game, no custom content involved. It was also after transitioning from YA to Adult.

And I had Ricky Cormier get the charred face after transitioning from YA to Adult, he'd been charred before but it had gone away long since.

I figured I would work the "Matrix Face" into the story line, in that family instead of getting acne the teens get this really strange skin condition! For all I know it could be related to zits as one of the teens had them and matrix face showed up after I tried toggling off the zits with boolprop.

I am now getting this too!! Two of my teen sims all of a sudden don't have any face. I don't use Inteen, Insim, simPE surgery, my object files have always been read only and still are, I didn't age them up or down, I am using Maxis skin and clothes (one of them has custom hair), and I don't have any hacks except, the mind control mirror, JM's, Jeffs and one or two of Crammy's and Inge's. All have been working fine in my game for months, except for the new stuff I installed from Jeff & JM, and I know those are not the problem b/c they have nothing to do with the face mesh. When I went to change their face in the mirror they still didn't have any eyebrows. I had to put thoughs back on too. What could be going on?

I've had the matrix problem with a few recolours of Maxis stuff, (counters, the overhead long light both spring to mind) although never with any Custom mesh recolours!  Since I ran all my existing downloads through SimPE after installing Uni, and again after installing NL, I don't think it was just because they were base game objects, and since I don't know which files they are I can't get rid of them - the deleting in game option just isn't working (works for that session, but next time I load the game, all my faulty objects are back!)

Actually, in my 'blue faced Sim' neighbourhood, something (!?) happened that most of my Sims lost their hair and eyebrows.
I hadn't deleted anything, so it was really bizarre to see all these bald browless people, and there was absolutely no way to put eyebrows back on them. I even tried to export them and make new copies, but the new copies will not 'take' eyebrows or hair either.
I blame it on custom eyebrows (though I hadn't deleted any) and try to avoid using them now, even though they're so much better than the Maxis.

Have you tried reinstalling your latest EP over that neighbourhood?  Just a thought, that if something within the hood is messed up, overwriting it might solve the problem.

That was before I'd installed EPs...

The only time I've had the 'matrix' pattern was after deleting recolours, seems that deleting certain countertops will do that to the base that came with it. I just chalk it down to a poorly done rc and delete them both... would probably try a little harder to figure it out if it happened to a Sim though.

The only time I had 'matrix' pattern when was I was trying out default replacements and accidently had two alien skins at once...the guy had the normal Maxis tone, but was missing most of his hair, but the middle. It was rather odd  :P

Sometimes hard to find which counter base and top go together, though, since there's no separate description for recolours.  And a ceiling light doesn't have two halves - it was just a recolour that for some reason didn't work!  And in-game deletion just doesn't work for me, the objects are back next time I load my game!

Wow, would I ever hate that!
In game deletion of recolours is about the only thing I'm pleased with (as far as relative simplicity and speed) I've often longed for the ability to delete the 'CAS recolours' in game with the same ease.

It was actually a set of counters with espresso, cappucino etc... written across the countertops. I liked it, but didn't feel I needed 5 or 6 copies of the same base to go along with the tops. (though I was wrong,  ::))

I'd downloaded them long before Uni was released though, so they were very early recolours. One of the few sets I'd been able to find back then in a decent colour (not purple, green, pink... just a deep coffee-ish sort of colour)

I haven't a clue why my game won't delete things properly, it's not as if the things are actually being used - it's happened in a new set of game files so there's nothing locking the files up!  And the stupidest thing is that with some bedding files which show blue in the menu are undeletable, and AREN'T THERE!  (I've checked, and they aren't!)  Now, in the set of folders I'm playing now, where I regenerated in order to play a historical theme, I've only put in a few bedding files.  The blue files appeared AGAIN!  I pulled out all the bedding files and stuck them on the desk-top.  Played once without them, then put them back in a few at a time.  This appears to have solved the problem in this game, but in my other game I must have about 100 bedding files, and most of them are in use, and I hate it when every darn bed in the neighbourhood has reverted to the insipid pale blue Maxis default!

Hehe, I feel your pain. :)  If you hover your mouse over the recolors, do you see a little yellow popup with the description of the file?  Sometimes you can get a clue about which one it is from that.  You may need to have testingcheats enabled, I'm not sure.

Well, I think you must have to have that on, and I rarely do - it always seems to fubar everything! - as if they are just recolours I get no info at all - funnily enough, I often do with skin files, but never with objects!  It doesn't actually cause any problems with the game, it's just annoying!  Just wish I knew why the game won't permanently delete them, though - I thought maybe it was an installation glitch with NL, but I reinstalled NL and nothing changed, so it wasn't that.  Only other thing I can think of is they've somehow or other got into the Objects.package file before I made it read only (which I did as soon as the patch was installed and before I played the new install) and since I'd taken everything out while I reinstalled, I can't for the life of me see how that could happen!

And have you tried deleting the groups.cache file?

I don't think there is any way for them to get into your objects file.  If you marked it read-only right after installing the patch, then you should have a fresh objects file with the patch applied to it.  I believe it copies it fresh from your CD, then patches it, but it doesn't make it read-only as Maxiod Tom said it would.  So it must be something else that is caching the files and causing them to be restored on restart.

Could the sheets you can't delete just be badly done (old) recolours that overwrite the Maxis which is why you can't delete them in game?

Maybe running the duplicate scan in PE could find a few that are copies? (or perhaps like my cupboards, they were tied into a frame that was deleted?) I know it's a real long shot, but you never know!?

Oh, I delete groups.cache regularly.  No, for some reason, I'm fairly sure these were instances of the same file appearing twice!  Once with the correct colours, once just the blue.  As I said, it happened again with a new set of folders, and I only put in the bedding that seemed to fit with my historical theme (mostly what came with the beds themselves), and checking with Clean Installer or simPE didn't throw up any odd files, duplicates, empty files or anything like that!

I guess the reason I couldn't permanently delete them was because they had somehow duplicated in game, but moving them all out and then back in again just happened to work because this time around the game didn't duplicate them!