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Has anyone heard of a hack for a live in maid for the rich sims?

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Not that I've heard of, but couldn't you just make a sim in CAS, merge them into the house, and use them to do all the cleaning?

Christiuanlov has an all-in-ine NPC. She cooks, she cleans, and she takes care of the chidren. I've never used her myself but I think she a live-in maid.

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=62777

Danny's DMA worker's set has maids:

http://valdea.com/

Also I think the all-in-one nanny will perform as a maid as well.

I've read people suggesting this. Make the sim have 10 neat points, 10 nice points and then use the tombstone of L&D to make the sim unselectable after merging them into the house.

I had some issues with christianloves all in one causing bugs in the game. It is also weird when it calls a neighbor.

Yep, so did I. It's a great idea in theory, but I found that it caused more problems than it was worth.
* I just wish I could remember what exactly* LOL

I use a sim with 10 nice points and 10 active points, have them move into the house and live in a small room, and then just do macro/clean, macro/garden, etc.

Danny's DMA's keep getting better and better with each update.  You can get the starter pack for free.  It also comes with a yellow bugrlar alarm that cures vampires, makes friends fast, and does a bunch of other stuff.  The only drawback is that you can't change NPC clothes if you have a themed neighborhood.

Except that DMA is not awesome. Plus the tacking of on functions that really have nothing to do with the hack itself is a me-too practice known as "bloatware".

I used Danny's stuff for a while, then I took it out because it puts too many files in my downloads folder that I don't know what they are.  (with file names like abac12345addf.package). And it attatches a funky thing to your phone line that I am always afraid with conflict with pescado's phone stuff.

I haven't had any conflict problems and use both Danny's and Pescado's stuff (namely the thing that lets me turn the blamed ringer off - couldn't live without that). And I'm pleased they aren't global hacks (anymore? I think maybe they used to be). Tho I could do without the long list of choices under "service" when I just want a regular one - I kinda wish there was a seperate menu. Yeah, it's bloated. Seems to me like a lot of people combine a whole bunch of stuff into one thing and you end up with lots of extras just to get one small change you really want. Even a few things of yours like that ;) It's easier to keep up with less when you hafta update everything, I guess - makes sense to me. And less awesome :) but definately handy for some things.

You can download the packs separately.  I wish I hadn't've downloaded the entertainment set as I never use it but my sims and I love the workers and hookers.  I think it is awesome & I could care less what anyone else thinks.

Put the phone down Russell.....I'm sure no one really minds if you use this hack or not!  ;)

um, I meant the less awesome thing as a joke... I have no sense of humor, sorry.

I'm using the hack and liking it - all of them. I don't want to take some out, I just wish there was a seperate menu option as it does spam my phone list :)

Sorry, this is a total pet peeve of mine...I am incapable of resisting.

What you meant to say was you COULD NOT or COULDN'T care less what anyone else thinks.  ::)

Think about it...

Well thank god someone else has noticed this! I thought it may have been a 'foreign' way of using this expression so I didn't speak up earlier!

I've always said "I couldn't care less" and I wondered why the hell other ppl say "I could care less" 'cause it sure ass shit makes no sense to me!!  :D

I use the allinone all the time and there is no issues with it now and the mod is compatable with all the mods I have installed but most of my modds are from JM, TwoJeff Crammyboy and Inge I try not to use too many modders.

The allinone is always being update for any problems bugs and they are nearly ironed out now. He has just posted a new version today it is awesome

If you make them unselectable they will walk off of the lot regardless of whether they live there or not.  :P

When I added them to the family and then made them unselectable, they didn't leave the lot. *shrugs*

From: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ico1.htm

The inverted form I could care less was coined in the US and is found only there. ...

The intent is obviously sarcastic—the speaker is really saying, "As if there was something in the world that I care less about". ...

There's a close link between the stress pattern of I could care less and the kind that appears in certain sarcastic or self-deprecatory phrases that are associated with the Yiddish heritage and (especially) New York Jewish speech. Perhaps the best known is I should be so lucky!, in which the real sense is often "I have no hope of being so lucky", a closely similar stress pattern with the same sarcastic inversion of meaning. ...

And because it is hard to be sarcastic in writing, it loses its force when put on paper and just ends up looking stupid. In such cases, the older form, while still rather colloquial, at least will communicate your meaning—at least to those who really could care less.

I actually like the sarcastic version. Of course, it's a colloquialism we use a lot in Kentucky and I hear the inflection when I read the words. The rest of the (short) article is interesting as well.

<has nothing on-topic to say>

Edit: dumb typo

Yeah, ok, so the DMA is 'less awesome' but I find it very useful for two features... Call Display and Pregnancy test.
Yes, I know if a Sim is pregnant, but sometimes it's good to know you have a couple hours left before beginning a meal or heading into a small room. I've had more than one Sim go into labour in the middle of preparing a meal and it's just bad for everyone involved (particularly when twins or more)

I don't care for the npcs myself so I just install the 'burglar alarm' components. I really like the COA as well, it's so easy to change the appearances of those nasty unplayable characters, though I use it most to fix any Sims visiting after I've deleted custom content. (Give them hair, eyebrows etc.) Also for grow up emergencies - preventing Sims from transitioning to Maxis clothing, particularly those horrid brown Maxis child pjs.

Well actually, the way I look at it... you couldn't care less...your current level of non-caring is as far as it goes. You could care less...you don't care as it is, and you could care even less...there's no limit to your non-caring. Both make sense to me.

And the only reason I myself still use Danny's DMA's is b/c his teleporter thingamagigs have proven very handy. The yellow one is good for changing pregnant sims into their actual clothes, as opposed to those atrocious maternity outfits the game likes to force on us. So far, this is the only tool that's allowed me to do this. The red one is good for changing townie outfits, as post-NL, it's been impossible to change clothes for townies. So as less-awesome as it is, until some more awesome hacker comes along to address these two issues *hint, hint* ;), I have to do w/ the DMA stuff.

That's odd. They did when I tried it.  :-\

I only have the yellow one and an old copy at that, but I like the caller ID function in particular. That way I can send whoever it's for to the phone if I want them to answer it and avoid everyone dropping everything to rush and answer, then wait for so and so to pick it up, etc... The teleport is good in a pinch too, as is the clothes-changing. I used it to get around the limit on party invites to just teleport in whoever I wanted and then change everyone to formal...

I see your point...no wait...I don't!  But I suppose I understand your view.  :D
I guess the way I see it, what you're trying to say is, "I care so little right now that there's no way I could care LESS than what I care right now.  There is no lower caring than this."  Whereas, "I could care less" sends out the meaning, "I don't care much obviously, from my sarcastic tone, but I care enough that it is capable for me to care even less than I do now...so I care a little."

The English language is whack, G.

Okay, back on topic!

The DMA thing sounded interesting, so I decided to download it and give it a shot. Then, of course, I discovered that you have to register with the site to download which is a level of annoying I am not willing to go through unless the download is something I really want.

I decided to poke through their forums to see if this is really something I want and saw where somebody with a non-working DMA was advised to delete "Pescado's fixes and enhancements" (snotty ironic quotes theirs).  That pretty much told me all I need to know.  This must be one big huge grabby program if I have to delete all my other mods before it will work. 

As it is, I know I like Pescado's mods.  I don't know the same thing about DMA.  I think I'll pass.   

I have many of Pescado's "fixes and enhancements" in my game, and also many items from Inge, Crammyboy, and TwoJeffs.  I also use the DMA items, and I have no conflicts.  The DMA advice reminds me of Maxis' advice for TS1 problems, especially with the first (and relentlessly evil) release of Hot Date:  every reported problem was blamed on custom content.

AAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!  After scrolling through, I'm even more confused than ever; not a hard thing to do,  ???So short and sweet would be good, thanks all for the answers and comment.  And by the way, I find that COULDN'T GIVE A SHIT' works best, it's to the point and translatable...

What're you confused about? <not good at short and sweet, but gives it a shot>

If you want a live-in-maid, there's two "hacks" set-up for that (that I'm aware of).

Christiuanlov's all-in-ine NPC:
http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=62777

This one is also a nanny and may do some other stuff.

Danny's DMA worker's set:
http://valdea.com/

This one has several NPCs in one group (maids, babysitter, janitor) and you call the one you want.

For both, you actually download a created sim and their hacked code makes them behave as intended (live-in, be maids). At times various people have problems with them or don't like the way they work. They're hacks, that's to be expected. <shrug> Read the instructions, try one of them if you like. If it doesn't work for you, take it out again. Maybe try the other.

The third way to get a live-in maid is to create one yourself in CAS. Give him/her a bunch of neat and nice points so she'll clean automatically. Put her in the house where you want a live-in maid (personally I'd direct her to sleep in the bed once, so she knows it's hers) and then use the in-game cheat "Tombstone of L&D" to make her unselectable so all her behavior is autonomous.

So you've got 3 choices. For recommendations, I like the DMA NPCs (Danny and Pescado got some sort of rivalry going here? They seem to be sniping at each other) and haven't tried the other two options but, as always, Your Mileage May Vary. Do what works for you.

Nicely put.  :D

Well, this is like the advertising slogan: "Nothing sucks like a Vax".

You can interpret it as "Nothing else sucks as well as a Vax does", or "A Vax is as good at sucking as nothing". Two completely opposite meanings. Likewise, "Nothing works better than Anadin". So you can take Anadin for your headache, or take nothing - as nothing apparently works better ;).

I occasionally use 'I could care less' instead of couldn't to be sarcastic. Kind of your classic, old fashioned hyperbole ad absurdum. 'Oh, yes, what you're saying is absolutely important to me, and it is TOTALLY possible that I could care a tiny bit less.'

Not to get off the subject, of course. I know how seldom that happens here.

I use the allinone from mod the sims two and it doesnt conflict with any modders on this forum actually I dont think it confilcts with any hack I have from anyone. It does alot of stuff Cleans cooks gardens does the kids homework helps with homework the list is endless it totally does away with all the service sims. and the nanny besides takening care of the kids it does homework and helps with home work too it can teach the toddlers to talk potty train not walk yet though

You forgot the best part Meek_Monkey. You can choose which of all of the many choices your Ain1 will do as well as the hours of service, or even if she never leaves at all. Also there is no drama. They do what is expected of them, then stand quietly waiting for something else to need doing. With this you can 'cheat' as much or as little as you want. For sticklers, you can even choose to pay her.

Due to this thread-I downloaded this.  It is amazing-A little confusing at first but with some tinkering I figured it out.  I never use maids so none of my maids meet anyone except for Kaylynn because she was pre hired but she was fired on her first day of work.  Well, I Chose assign NPC option and picked a maid--she is there 24/7 and she is in her little french maid outfit.  It is so cool.  I tryed to hire the head male waiter for TriVar and he wouldn't do anything but clean--he arrived in a male maids outfit(disappointing cause I picked him for his outfit).  I knew nothing was wrong with the settings or the kitchen(must be some other setting that I don't know about yet).  I unscheduled him and hired Lucy she went right to work.  The maids will meet more people than anyone because I have them greet everyone.  It will be a bear if I ever make them playable.  They are paid of course-$360 a day.  Too bad they don't get to keep it.

Those of you using the allinone from mod the sims, I really need some help. I went to the link listed above, and read through the almost incomprehensible "instructions," and I'm using that word loosely, and downloaded all the files. I'd really like to know how exactly this thing works, but reading through a 51 page!! thread on it, through multiple revisions in the last 7 months is just not gonna happen.

I tried just running the game, and seeing if I could figure it out, but its not working. Pieces missing available somewhere besides that thread? I don't know.

I can create an NPC. I can move it in. But none of the other things are working. Not to mention, the person didn't start to clean anything, just sat down and started playing video games. No scheduler, no pay option. No NPC that would just come to your house.

I'm very confused. It looks like an awesome solution! but the documentation/instructions make it almost useless if you haven't been following its development since may.

Thanks in advance if anyone can explain it to me.

U need to got to preferences and add schedule then the all in one will show up make sure it is during the hours of 6 am and about 8 pm as the all in one wont come. For the nanny painting u need to do the same thing add schedule there is also an option an both the stove and the painting for 24 hours on if the word on is visable the the option is turned off and if the word off the is visable it is turned on.

Go to preferences where? What do I click? Is it something to buy in the catalog? I found the tweak thing that looks like an urn, but it has options, but no preferences, and scheduler is not one of the options.

Thanks for trying to help.

Sorry on the stove or the painting it has it on both and u need to make a nanny too if u use the painting. and the urn is a tweek tool that u can make allinone or the nanny cant remember what else. I aslo forgot the there is heaps of options there if u dont see the schudle on the first bit go to more.

Ahhhhh! thank you. I hadn't purchased the painting, because I didn't need a nanny, and didn't realize the stove WAS the controller. I thought it was just if you wanted the allinone to cook too.

Yes u need the stove for the allinone to do anything at all.  ;D ;) :)

Thanks everyone, downloading now, testing later

This is only tangentially on topic but this morning a thought sprang to mind of what to do with my permanent platinums. Amazingly, though I've got a handful nearly there, I still haven't made any Permaplats yet.  (I've only had Uni since August, been playing a lot of different families, and also I think I've been afraid that I'd be utterly bored with Permaplats.) Similar to the enslaved grandparents, where grandparents stay at home to take care of kids, my idea is to make a School for Butlers and Maids where only PermaPlats need apply. If they aren't maxed out on Cooking, Cleaning and Mechanical, use the School (preferably with reward objects) to get them up to speed, have special outfits available, and when they're ready, send them to a new household. Yeah they won't be autonomous but the family could use their otherwise wasted Influence points to make the Butlers a bit more independent.

Anyway I think I might set this up, I tend to not want to have major hacks such as all-in-one NPCs but the bigger reason is I need to have a goal for my group of on-the-verge elderly Permaplats...

Okay, so I downloaded and am quite happy with the whole scenario, but now I am being bombarded with different error messages and somehow made the headmaster disappear on one of his annoying visits  ::)

You must have something conflicting in your hacks. I use the allinone all the time and dont get any error messages unless there is some thing wrong and with the new version I have not had any laterly

Yet another hiccup, I never have had this many problems.  My maid just won't show up now and I did get a message saying she will be there tomorrow.  Have patience with me, I'm rather vulnerable after reading some replies to my last post :-[

did you buy the stove or painting at night? If not I find that if I delete the stove or painting and rebuy it it often helps please dont do it at night there will be problems. Maybe you should go here for support http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=62777

Ta Meek Monkey, had a look and reckon I can fix it now..

If you are talking about me, I'm sorry.  :-*
I wasn't trying to be a jerk or anything...it's just a peeve.  It was definitely not an attack on your intelligence or speaking capabilities...90% of the people I know say it that way...but it is a peeve!  :D  I compulsively have to explain it...I just can't help it...  :-X

Anyway, back on topic again, I hope you figured out your live-in maid problem.  Keep us updated, as I would like to know how to get one too!  ;D

And again, I profusely apologize for any hurt feelings or wrongdoing.

I am also Sorry If I offend anyone I didnt mean too if I did. I am a little peeved myself as I have to move house. Again I am Sorry. :o

 :oHey guys, no;  I wasn't referring to you MM or SJ, you have been really good and helpful, I just started to think to much and get paranoid.  Reflecting now, I think I should have read the posts a bit more thoroughly as a lot of what I needed to know had already been answered.  A lot of game problems I had are all good now, so I'm happy.  Sorry if I sounded off and acc :-[used the innocent. :-[

Are there any hacks to make the sims unselectable outside of the use of the boolprop tombstone? I don't like messing around with boolprop if I can avoid it, I am afraid I will accidentally click the wrong menu option and fubar my game (it happens... sigh). I tried merola's painting, the insiminator, and Inge's shrub and none of them seem to have that option (the insiminator will only let you de-select sims that are not part of the household anyway).

And if Danny's NPC's have some sort of conflict with JM's hacks, what hacks are those? The red thing has not worked for me in terms of changing the outfit of an NPC, I always have to move them in- maybe this is why? I can tell it to change the outfit, but I never get any options, and making the NPC selectable and using the red thing to try and buy clothing for them doesn't seem to work either...

I am completely thrilled with this mod.  No more annoying nannies.  I only use them now when there are only children.  Can't stand for her to have to stand around all day. Thank you so much!!

Sloooow response, sorry. I didn't see your post before Ellatrue. Merola's mirror let me make sims unselectable - but maybe that's because I was using it for sims that didn't live there to start with (same as insim, I guess). For sims I don't want to control, I use Inge's shrub and choose "make me a townie" - that works great for me. I think you may need to leave the house for it to take effect. At least that's what I'm doing in dorms - putting in a townie sim, choosing make me a townie, and then exiting and when I click on the dorm again, there are no controllable sims there.

As far as clothes with Danny's DMA - I *think* that's a feature, that you aren't supposed to be able to choose different outfits for them and the ones they come with are not selectable by other sims. There are some more clothing sets up with the "full" (pay) versions. Maybe I misread the RTFM but I haven't tried to change their clothing as that's what I understood. I haven't found any conflicts between DMA and Pescado's hacks - yet (never say never).

Maybe not much help, but hope it's a little.

I meant using it to change the clothing of the townies, actually.

do you mean that I should move in a sim, make it a townie, then move other sims in, and it will never leave the lot?

Oh to change townie clothes I think you have to make them selectable, make sure there's a dresser that has different outfits in it (buy some if there aren't any), change their clothes and then make them townies again. I believe the issue there is that trying to change their clothes when they don't own any (if I'm understanding correctly) or don't recognize they do. I haven't done that with the DMA controller - I use Merola's mind-control mirror and it works so well I haven't tried anything else. (Hm, that is what you were trying and not Merola's painting, yes? The one that allows you to select otherwise unselectable sims.)

I'm not quite sure I'm following about never leaving the lot. When I used Inge's bush to make them townies, they can leave the lot just as any other townie can. They can be invited to another house or appear on a community lot. I'm not sure anything would prevent that, or at least don't know how to do it. I know at least in a dorm if you move the sim in and then make him/her a townie, they'll live there - if it doesn't work in a house, try a myne door and having the sim claim it before you make them a townie?

Maybe someone else understands better and/or has a better suggestion :) <wants to be more helpful than she really is>

I think Pescado has enough hacks out to make your own maid.  Here are the steps that I would take.

1. Make maid, preferrably as maid outfits go, and combine him/her with the lazy family.
2. Build her some living quarters. (But if you want to go Pescado, just plop them in a hole at night.)
3. Add the Somnic Sleepclocka dn set at an early time, like 5 or 6.
4. Use Macrotastics to makeher clean/garden, or whatever.
5. Lather, rinse, and repeat.

Hmm. I wonder . . . would it be possible to create a modified Power Idle, something like "Auto Upkeep" where once the sim had maxed out its mood it would run through the clean/garden/render unto ceasar/etc. type macros? Hmm. And then, if it would be possible to set it so that the "Power Idle" mood upkeep part only used the objects in one section of the house (the maid's quarters) but the cleaning and such functions applied to the entire house, it would be possible to create a live in housekeeper with only Macro's and maybe some variant on the APO object. No fiddling with NPC related code.

That's very interesting!  Out here in good old Idaho practically everyone says 'I could care less' which has always driven me nuts because there's absolutely NO inflection with it to make it sound sarcastic.  I never even knew it was supposed to be sarcastic so have always said "I couldn't care less"  because the other made absolutely no sense to me and has always rankled me.

Funny thing that Yiddish, though.  My DH has Yiddish ancestry and once in a while it comes up in his speech, although not so much in phrases as in pronunciation.  I used to just scratch my head in wonder--now I just chuckle.

haha! I live in Idaho as well :D

I was wondering??? Bella had a baby on the last day that she could and she got the short end of the stick in her elder age and I don't want to play them cause I'm afraid that they will die before the child is a teen.  They have the live in maid and nanny--so I'm thinking that the social worker shouldn't take her cause she isn't theoretically alone??  I guess I'll not save if it doesn't work.  Interesting idea??  You would be able to kill off the adults and not lose the children.

Unless you have Lobonanny, the child would be better off being taken by the Sociopath Worker.

I think it would work, so long as the money doesn't run out.

Process Denied, if you have Inges "teleporter plus" then you could teleport the kid to another lot so it could grow up with a "foster family"

If you save often then you can arrange to teleport the kid just before Bella dies.

The reason I want to keep the child in the house is that it will probably only be for a day.  Alex was fine by himself as a teen.  They go to Uni after they reach the top of their career and it is usually only a couple of days--give or take for days off.  I had Cassie come over every night to keep him company.  maybe I'll extend their lives till she is a teen cause she has a fear of a reletive dieing and they usually lose that when they're a teen(or less they're family). 

That would be really neat, but how to make them unly use the objects in one part of the house?