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I just reinstalled all ex-packs and original and now I am getting weird options.  I got the option for this dad to attack his toddler, so I had to click on it, he stood up and she sat on the floor and the cloud was there and all , then she said " I can see your not a sim to be triffled with etc," and then she sat around all the rest of the day with the boxing gloves over her head and now she want to see the ghost of her dad.    ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/shortgal/babyfight.jpg)

My game is running so slow now also,  I patched after I installed each pack but I am going to reinstall all of them and only patch the last one and see if that helps.   ???

You sure you don't have any hacks you don't know about?  That dialogue seems a little suspicious to me...

 :o   dad attack his toddler???


wow, you sure got a weird hack going on in that game

The "not a sim to be trifled with" ?  No it's in the game in NL...occassionaly it will pop up, especially if two sims who are furious at each other attack one another and one completely kicks ass.  I believe it stops furious behavior like trashcan kicking and newspaper thievery as well.

no weird hacks, the last two hacks I put in my game were TJs'  college adjuster and the NPC zapper.    I never saw that attack baby option before either until today.  what a hoot.  :D

Weird.  I've never seen that.  Still, the dad attacking the toddler?  Not a new NL interaction, I hope.  :o

how much is the relationship between them? it may be NL glitch - some programmer forgot to change the codes for toddlers and kids.

Haha...wonder if it would be possible for the toddler to win? :D

Fate, give the toddler 10 bodies, and the dad - 1 body (with the SimPe), and see the results...:).

I've heard reports of Toddler/Adult fights happening when NL came out.  So you're not the only one.

I didn't think teens and adults could fight each other untill my teen beat the crap out of Joe Carr on a community lot.  I wish I'd taken pictures of that...

I've had toddler hating her mother with the option to attack her after the toddler was in the room when her mother continually flirted with someone who was not the toddler's father.

I haven't seen it myself...the adults attacking children and babies thing but heard about it on many occassions.  My guess is that they forgot to do something with the code that made it so only children could fight with children/teens with teens/adults with adults and so forth.

OMG, Family Guy!

 :D

IRIC, the babies and toddlers being able to attack older sims was due to the fightclub hack not being compatible with Nightlife. It was months ago that I read this, but it might be a good idea to check if fightclub is in your downloads folder.

No, the Fight Club has no effect on the availability of Fighting. It only affects the outcome of the fighting.

The Fight Club will have to be updated again to account for cross-age fighting, though. Nobody should be able to lose a fight to a toddler. :P

Hmm... I must've been confused because of the fighting aspect. There was definitely some oddness with babies and toddlers fighting, however, when Nightlife came out and I think it was hack related.

Edit: the only thing I can find is a post by Brynne with child/adult attacking. Sorry, LynnMar, it's definitely familiar. Maybe an old version of enemies accumulate? It was somehow related to the new fighting and furious system, I just wish I could remember!!  :(

Ive never heard of a dad wanting to attack his toddler before glad I havent seen it in my game :o

In my experience, Uni puts significantly more strain on your hardware than does the original game by itself or with NL without Uni. There may not be anything you can do about it other than upgrade.   :(

If you don't patch the original game, the EPs will do it for you (if you cancel the process, the EP will uninstall itself!). I don't believe NL patches Uni, but I think it incorporates the Uni update.

before I reinstalled I had the UNI patch and it seemed like it was a smaller patch than the one I got this time, it was huge.    I think I will let NL patch Uni and then just put in the patch for NL.   

so, does UNI patch the original sims1 if I leave out that patch.    Because my game was running fast before I uninstalled and reinstalled,  patching each time before installing the next ep.  Now it is molassass.  Slooooooooow.    :'(

I just got a new videio card with 256MB memory but I cannot afford to upgrade my processor  until at least March.

here is the one I have currently    AMD Athlon XP Processor 2400+with QuantiSpeed Architecture

as for the baby fight, I think it had to do with the quads and triplet mod, I took it out before the babies grew up but they were conceived using that hack and they were showing other odd behaviors besides the one that had the fight with the dad.  One of them grew up by itself to a kid two days before the other ones and the next one grew from a baby to a toddler but she was not in her crib when she grew up, she was out on the front lawn.  OMG   ;D
 I can't go through another mess like that.  rofl

I hope someone else responds to this. Since I already had NL, when I installed Uni (did a complete uninstall/reinstall of all three packages and managed to bugger my neighborhoods in the process) I didn't patch it, but just went to the NL install. NL checks to see if you have patched the base game, and since the Uni install had already done so, it didn't do it again. Therefore, I have not specifically patched Uni. BTW, if you run the patch applets, they will tell you whether the patch has already been applied (they don't "repatch" the base game or EPs). 


Yes. At the end of the installation routine, it tells you it is going to check to see if your game is up-to-date, and asks for TS2 disc 4 (if you have the CD version).

Okay, so I have just downloaded and applied the Uni patch. After telling me I have a more recent EP installed and should check for updates for that, the patch installed without a problem. I noticed that many (all?) of the character templates for the Uni neighborhoods were patched, so I'm thinking I should delete my existing Uni neighborhoods and create/choose new ones, in order to take advantage of whatever changes were made.

I know I have read somewhere that only the most recent patch is necessary if you install all three packages at once, but this may not be true. Applyng the Uni patch would probably be a good idea.

the only 2 patches you need are the base game patch which Uni will do for you or you can download it and do it yourself and the NL patch which incorporates the fixes for Uni and NL all in one patch

twojeffs will tell you that that is not possible. The trips and quads hack only comes into play when a sim is giving birth, and once it sets how many babys are to be born (and named) its part is done, it dosen't affect anything else and can be removed at any time.

well, that is good to know because I love that mod.   :)

I love it too :) but I usually don't let myself use it much now *laughs*  (was a tester way back when at mts2 starting with the first available version twojeffs released)

I'm pretty sure it's Maxis that said you're not supposed to install both the Uni and the NL patch. Doesn't it say that on the page where you download them - only to do the one for the most recent EP you own and definately not both? As you have NL, you should install the NL patch, not the Uni one. They could always be wrong (it is Maxis afterall) but I really hope they can provide adequate info about how you should patch.

I read somewhere (MTS2, I think) about some conflicts with the old version of the twins & triplets hack with NL. I took it (most reluctantly) out of my game then. But tisn't there a new version, updated for NL? In any case, I read what twojeffs had to say and put it in :) I also love that one. Even tho I don't have quads often (not enough room and too hard to care fo) I like to have twins when I want them. Thanks twojeffs :)

I had a sim fight his toddler and lose. I think it's utterly hilarious :D.

I finally figured out why she was mad at her dad,  he got a blind date one day at home and the baby must have been jeoulous because I noticed that not only was she furious with her dad but with the blind date lady, Dagmar.    ;D

I fianlly got my game fixed somewhat, the slowness is gone.   I reinstalled NL and I copied the objects package from the disc for UNI,  but the house where the dad and toddler were fighting is definately corrupted because I had more trouble there today,  that damn Miss Crumplebottom came to my house and started lecturing my sims about their bathing suits.   I deleted her with the objects on cheat and she didn't come back.

I defianatly have a love, hate relationship with sims2.   It is a mess the way they sent it to us from the factory.   They just (excuse me for saying this)  vomited something out  for us to buy and if not for JM and others we couldn't play it at all.   They should be getting the big bucks, not those programming idiots at Maxi, EA.    >:(

Had to laugh at the thought of Mrs Crumplebottom turning up.  I saw someone else mention this happening in their game, can't remember where.  I've never had anything weird happen with her in my game, although I do have one Sim who keeps dreaming about her for some reason.  Every night her face appears, perhaps he has a secret passion for her or somethng.

Ancient, you hit the Jack Pot!

Just yesterday my Sim-Trepie and Sim-Reggiko were invited downtown. Whe we arrived there, the first sim I glanced, was Ms Crumplebottom. I have Merola's mirror there, and selected her, to see her wants.

The darling Ms Crummplebottom showed only two wants: "Invite sim at home", and "ask sim on a date"...:).

Ha!!! Puritan???  Just jelous, and hypocrite...:).

I've never even seen Ms Crumplebottom because I have TwoJeffs "NPC & Visitor Zapper" and she is banned by default, haven't used the Zapper for any other sim yet but I heard enough about Ms Crumplebottom that I knew I didn't want her anywhere near my sims!!!