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Title: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 06, 22:40:57
 Due to a highly offensive series of Posts in  the thread which pay sites would you subscribe to ? on the Podium .Motoki said goodbye to MATY. I for one would Love to have Motoki come back to MATY and feel that the thread did indeed  have offensisive gender preference posts regarding homosexuality. I enjoyed Motoki's Posts and his helpful Information Bailed me out of Jam's in my game more than once. please take a moment to take this poll


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Brynne on 2005 December 06, 22:45:42
Yes, please come back, 'tokiness...


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 06, 22:50:02
Yes, please come back, 'tokiness...
Brynne could you Please forward the results to Motoki?


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 06, 22:51:28
Please, Motoki!  And if anything I said upset you, please accept my apologies.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: gali on 2005 December 06, 22:51:55
Motoki, you know we all love you! We know you since JMP openned this site, and always appreciated your help and warm words!

You saved our game pleasure many many times - thank you for that!

Please, please come back! - We consider you as a family!

We DO care...:)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Brynne on 2005 December 06, 22:53:22
Yes, please come back, 'tokiness...
Brynne could you Please forward the results to Motoki?

If I can track him down, I sure will!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 06, 22:56:07
Yes, please come back, 'tokiness...
Brynne could you Please forward the results to Motoki?

If I can track him down, I sure will!
Thank Brynne Perhaps it will do Motoki's spirit   some good toknow we care about him  :)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 06, 22:57:12
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We DO care...

Of course we do!  and we miss you! :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: nectere on 2005 December 06, 22:57:24
Motoki, I always thought you had a thicker skin than that. By leaving you are giving what some people would want the gay community to do, to just go away. Either way, I hope you and yours are well or will be well with expedience. Take care and I hope to see you around again soon as I value your opinions, humour and general state of Motokiness, gay, straight or just plain Motoki.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: veilchen on 2005 December 06, 23:07:20
Either way, I hope you and yours are well or will be well with expedience. Take care and I hope to see you around again soon as I value your opinions, humour and general state of Motokiness, gay, straight or just plain Motoki.

Very well put, bravo Nectere.

But I do believe it is a multitude of reasons that he feels the need for a break, at least that what I inferred from the post in the thread. Sort of a vacation (hopefully not too long), and if he really needs to walk away for a while, maybe he'll pop in from time to time to say hello. And there really is absolutely nothing plain about Motoki :D (not a real smilie)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 06, 23:08:04
 come on Motoki we need our lord of the Nannies back :D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: gali on 2005 December 06, 23:11:09
Two tumbs, nectere! Motoki and all of us have to fight this religious prejudice!

Edit:  Veil, we don't want him to take a break - we want him right back!!! If he takes a break, he will forget us, and will never return.

He was, and is, one of the respected members of the forum, and we really love him.

We want you back - don't desert us!!!



Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 06, 23:11:33
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But I do believe it is a multitude of reasons that he feels the need for a break, at least that what I inferred from the post in the thread. Sort of a vacation (hopefully not too long), and if he really needs to walk away for a while, maybe he'll pop in from time to time to say hello. And there really is absolutely nothing plain about Motoki :D (not a real smilie)

Already the forum feels like there's someone vital gone AWOL!

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Two tumbs, nectere! Motoki and all of us have to fight this religious prejudice!

I second that.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Torkle on 2005 December 06, 23:12:38
Motoki - Please don't let the opinions of a few people prevent the rest of us good folk from receiving your knowledge, wit, and wisdom.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Elvie on 2005 December 06, 23:15:07
Yes, come back.  You're More Awesome than you realize  :)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: rohina on 2005 December 06, 23:19:09
I can understand why Motoki left. I don't think it was just "thin-skinned". I just saw the thread, and I don't understand why someone didn't move it into Retardo Land when it started to descend into such an assinine discussion.

Of course, I am echoing all those calls for him to come back.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 December 06, 23:20:29
And, there you have it. You can't have your cake and eat it, I guess. The drawback of free speech is that people are thus free to express their opinions, regardless of how distasteful, ignorant, and bigoted they are.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 06, 23:20:42
Motoki - Please don't let the opinions of a few people prevent the rest of us good folk from receiving your knowledge, wit, and wisdom.
as my hubby is always saying opinions are like a-holes everyone has one  and not necessarily one worth listening to. the anti homosexual posts are  a good example of opinions not  worth paying attention to.and point to narrow mindedness at its height.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 December 06, 23:25:15
as my hubby is always saying opinions are like a-holes everyone has one  and not necessarily one worth listening to.
I thought it was that everyone has one and they're all full of shit?


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 06, 23:28:11
And, there you have it. You can't have your cake and eat it, I guess. The drawback of free speech is that people are thus free to express their opinions, regardless of how distasteful, ignorant, and bigoted they are.

As someone, (I forget who) once said: " I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Not sure I am totally in agreement with that.  There are times when some people should keep their bigoted opinions to themselves - but of course, they won't!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 06, 23:31:04
as my hubby is always saying opinions are like a-holes everyone has one  and not necessarily one worth listening to.
I thought it was that everyone has one and they're all full of shit?
he was referring to the opinion not  the a**hole taken in your context that saying is correct as well


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Torkle on 2005 December 06, 23:32:15
As someone, (I forget who) once said: " I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire: http://www.classroomtools.com/voltaire.htm (http://www.classroomtools.com/voltaire.htm)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: lindaetterlee on 2005 December 06, 23:32:25
Hmmm. Ok I just have had my head up my ass because I totally missed this one. Personally I don't give a damn who is screwing who, when where or how. It should only matter to you if you are their significant other. Yet again quoting Men in Black "Jay: Why the big secret? People are smart, they can handle it.
Kay: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: aussieone on 2005 December 06, 23:34:09
Hmmmm....

Most of us who identify as gay/lesbian/bisexual (myself being a lesbian) encounter predjudice, bigotry etc from some people in the community. Hwever, just when you think you've developed skin as thick as a Rhino's hide, it takes someone to make one little comment that can cut so deep to the bone that all of the walls and defences you've put up over the years crumble in an instant and it is extrememly upsetting and frustrating when that happens.

I can understand why Motoki has decided to 'have a break' or call it quits even. Perhaps it may have been the last straw to have encountered predjudice at a site that he obviously loves and feels comfortable being a member of, perhaps he was a little oversensitive, like we all are at times......

Hopefully he'll pick himself up, dust himself off and come and join the fray again.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 06, 23:35:52
As someone, (I forget who) once said: " I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire: http://www.classroomtools.com/voltaire.htm (http://www.classroomtools.com/voltaire.htm)

Should have remembered, studied Voltaire's Candide for A Level but it was 40 years ago!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: cabelle on 2005 December 06, 23:39:13
Hopefully he'll pick himself up, dust himself off and come and join the fray again.

I second that aussieone! When you're ready to come back Motoki we'll be glad to see you. :) In the meantime, I'll be missing your informative, insightful, thought provoking and funny posts. It won't be the same without you. :'(

I also want to reassure you that all you will ever hear from me about a person's gender preference is that it's none of my dang business. I feel the same about a person's choice of religion. People have the right to make their own life choices without interference, judgement and the like. We all make different decisions in life and no decision is more wrong or right than another, they're simply different. We've all got to walk our own paths. And that's all I'll say except I hope you will come back as soon as you'd like to.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: lindaetterlee on 2005 December 06, 23:40:14
who was the prick that said no in the poll?


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: gali on 2005 December 06, 23:44:37
who was the prick that said no in the poll?

The one who attacked Motoki, and is very religious...:).


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Emma on 2005 December 06, 23:45:48
Wasn't me Linda!  >:(

Come back Motoki-we love you!  :'(


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 06, 23:46:05
Hmmmm....

Most of us who identify as gay/lesbian/bisexual (myself being a lesbian) encounter predjudice, bigotry etc from some people in the community. Hwever, just when you think you've developed skin as thick as a Rhino's hide, it takes someone to make one little comment that can cut so deep to the bone that all of the walls and defences you've put up over the years crumble in an instant and it is extrememly upsetting and frustrating when that happens.

I can understand why Motoki has decided to 'have a break' or call it quits even. Perhaps it may have been the last straw to have encountered predjudice at a site that he obviously loves and feels comfortable being a member of, perhaps he was a little oversensitive, like we all are at times......

Hopefully he'll pick himself up, dust himself off and come and join the fray again.
I hope  he will too .and hopefully he reads this thread and finds out that not all of us are so narrowminded as to let a person's sexual preference cloud how see  them as an individual. personally I have friends that I consider to be very special that are lesbians,gay,and bisexual as well as straight friends.I would be cutting my nose off to spite my face if I chose my friends based on their sexuality rather than who they are as a whole person. sexuality is only one facet of people and I have never met a homosexual who has forced their sexual preference on me yet and I doubt I ever will!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 06, 23:46:20
who was the prick that said no in the poll?

I'd like to know that too!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 06, 23:48:53
who was the prick that said no in the poll?

I'd like to know that too!
I'd like to know that as well! I guess it goes without saying that  my vote was for Motoki to return to Maty


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: lindaetterlee on 2005 December 06, 23:50:42
who was the prick that said no in the poll?

The one who attacked Motoki, and is very religious...:).

Ahh As i said PRICK. lol


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: windy_moon on 2005 December 06, 23:54:38
I love Motoki.   :)

Breaks can be good when you get more worked up over words on a screen than is wise for your own being (paraphrasing Motoki's words)....breaks are good, but coming back soon is better.

I love Motoki, Lord of the Nannies.  *hearts*


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Kyna on 2005 December 07, 00:06:33
Intolerance is based on fear of the unknown.  If people don't know any gay people - or think they don't know any gay people, cos they probably do - then they will never learn by experience that it doesn't matter whether someone is gay, straight or bi.  A person is a person.

I'm not in your shoes, Motoki and I can't possibly know how you feel.  But I have had forum/game burnout elsewhere and I know how that feels.  I hope your break is brief and that you return to us soon, refreshed and full of Motoki-ness.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: uaintjak on 2005 December 07, 00:10:53
I'm the prick, actually.  And for the record, I'm neither religious nor did I attack Motoki.  I did vote "No" though.

If you're getting freaked out and pissed off to the point where you have to lash out and attack people's opinions on an internet message board, then you need to unplug.  Whether permanently or just for a while, you obviously need a break.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Sagana on 2005 December 07, 00:14:49
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The one who attacked Motoki, and is very religious...

<curious> who did you feel attacked Motoki? The only personal attack I saw was by christianluv and it wasn't Motoki that was being attacked... There were a lot of opinions, even some offensive opinions, but I didn't see anything else that was purposefully or personally ...aggressive... maybe I missed something. As I had no intention of entering the debate, I wasn't reading that closely.

People are entitled to their opinions, and to express them, even if they're wrong ...*especially* if they're wrong, sos we get the chance to tell them so in a very authoritative tone which is undoubtedly going to make them change their minds <tongue firmly in cheek, of course>

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The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it.  If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth:  if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error.  ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859

That said, freedom of expression is important but I'd rather Motoki wasn't hurt/unhappy (and see why he was) and hope his break is good but very very short. And the thread was off-topic - probably that kind of debate belongs somewhere else (RL or political forums or wherever is appropriate) so people that enjoy it can engage in it and those that don't can easily skip, sos I'm just as happy it moved.

<hopes no one takes this as some sort of endorsement on my part of said opinions or anything in any way against Motoki - it isn't.>


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Oddysey on 2005 December 07, 00:15:34
Break is good. Break is very good. But Motoki coming back is better!

Come on, man. No one was attacking other peoples opinions. If I tell you that you're wrong, that's different from saying you should shut up. If I, or anyone else, means "shut up," that is what will be said.

I find it interesting that sexual orientation, or anything connected to it, gets turned into this huge thing. Like it's the defining factor in a person, or in their opinions, or something. I don't know if it's just America, but we tend to be twitchy about the most pointless things, and don't pay any attention to stuff that actually matters. And before I drift totally off topic:

Why does it always happen that this place explodes while I'm away? I go away for three days, and I come back to stuff like this . . .


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 07, 00:20:13
Maybe we needed your calm good sense to cool everything down, Odyssey!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: uaintjak on 2005 December 07, 00:30:06
<shrug> It's not just sex and sexuality.  There's many people (probably millions, how's that for a depressing thought?) who have the attitude of "We're right and you're wrong" and the reasons and the issue at hand doesn't really matter.  Sex, sexuality, religion, and politics seem to be America's favorites though.  Like the "American Idol" of the discussion scene.

Hell...I'm a Democratic gay atheist, and I've had some great discussions with straight Republican Christians.  Mostly because I pay attention and listen, rather than flying off the handle right away.

Edited to add: Maybe "attack" wasn't the right word.  I guess the impression I got was more "flying off the handle all out of proportion to the discussion at hand."


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ElviraGoth on 2005 December 07, 00:33:09
as my hubby is always saying opinions are like a-holes everyone has one  and not necessarily one worth listening to.
I thought it was that everyone has one and they're all full of shit?

That's how I've always heard/said it, JM.

While I was reading the post that made Motoki upset, it got moved into Retardo Land, and I can see why.  Things definitely got out of hand there.

Now, as for Motoki taking a break ... I hope it's a short one!  I can understand if he's already having problems otherwise, he doesn't need that in a place he uses for a break from those problems.  Sometimes, you just gotta get away from it all.  I know that's one of the reasons I come here - to take my mind off the hectic crap in my own life, at work or at home.  And to hopefully help someone if I can.

Motoki, you make me laugh!  Please don't be gone long!  I love your nannies!

Now PLEASE! Can we stop the need to all express our opinions of other people's opinions and get back to what's really important in life?  You know, the SIMS?  ::)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 07, 00:36:24
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Hell...I'm a Democratic gay atheist, and I've had some great discussions with straight Republican Christians.  Mostly because I pay attention and listen, rather than flying off the handle right away.

That's ok if they are prepared to do you the courtesy of listening to your point of view too.

I admit I flew off the handle, but when someone attacks you personally and makes assumptions about your private life (and when you reach my age, that really is beside the point) then I'm inclined to get more than a little irate.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: windy_moon on 2005 December 07, 00:40:25
<shrug> It's not just sex and sexuality.  There's many people (probably millions, how's that for a depressing thought?) who have the attitude of "We're right and you're wrong" and the reasons and the issue at hand doesn't really matter.  Sex, sexuality, religion, and politics seem to be America's favorites though.  Like the "American Idol" of the discussion scene.

Hell...I'm a Democratic gay atheist, and I've had some great discussions with straight Republican Christians.  Mostly because I pay attention and listen, rather than flying off the handle right away.

Well, in my opinion, you're right and you're wrong.  (Now, I challenge you to fly off the handle and attack that!  ;D )  Your style of operating works for you, but the purpose of this thread (as opposed to the other one) is that it is All About Motoki, not the general topic of healthy message boarding.

Motoki is special.  MATY is a great board and Motoki is one of the reasons.  He's funny, and kind and helpful and charming.  He's one of five or so regular members here who stand out like a gem.   Yeah, he's a modder too, but it's not his mods that make him precious, it's his personality that comes through in all of his posts.

Break is okay.  Motoki come back soon.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 07, 00:45:33
<Motoki is special.  MATY is a great board and Motoki is one of the reasons.  He's funny, and kind and helpful and charming.  He's one of five or so regular members here who stand out like a gem.   Yeah, he's a modder too, but it's not his mods that make him precious, it's his personality that comes through in all of his posts.

Break is okay.  Motoki come back soon.

Thank you Windy Moon for Picking up on the very essence of why I started this thread. I am hoping somehow that Motoki see's  through this thread that  he has made an impact on people here. and that He is one of the Few that actually stand out from the crowd here.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: gali on 2005 December 07, 00:45:45
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The one who attacked Motoki, and is very religious...

<curious> who did you feel attacked Motoki? The only personal attack I saw was by christianluv and it wasn't Motoki that was being attacked... There were a lot of opinions, even some offensive opinions, but I didn't see anything else that was purposefully or personally ...aggressive... maybe I missed something. As I had no intention of entering the debate, I wasn't reading that closely.

People are entitled to their opinions, and to express them, even if they're wrong ...*especially* if they're wrong, sos we get the chance to tell them so in a very authoritative tone which is undoubtedly going to make them change their minds <tongue firmly in cheek, of course>"


sagana, I am not against peoples' opinions - I am against unpoliteness! If you don't like some virtue, but you know that somebody here does have the virtue - you have to be polite, and VERY careful not to hurt his feelings. You don't talk to an empty space - you talk to people, and have to think twice, before you "throw your opinion in the air".

I'm the prick, actually.  And for the record, I'm neither religious nor did I attack Motoki.  I did vote "No" though.

If you're getting freaked out and pissed off to the point where you have to lash out and attack people's opinions on an internet message board, then you need to unplug.  Whether permanently or just for a while, you obviously need a break."



According to your threads, you are new here, and I presume you don't know Motoki well, as we do. So why vote on some post, when you are not aquainted with the member, and know his character and deeds? Just to vote and make an impression on others?

That REALLY is childish  :( :( :(  , and I think YOU have take a break from this forum!




Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: gali on 2005 December 07, 00:51:59
(Elvira)
"Now PLEASE! Can we stop the need to all express our opinions of other people's opinions and get back to what's really important in life?  You know, the SIMS?"

I totally agree. If a forum is dedicated to some subject - we have to stick to the topic. Yes, we can write here and there personal opinions, but NEVER insult other people's feelings.

 


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 07, 00:53:59
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The one who attacked Motoki, and is very religious...
I'm the prick, actually.  And for the record, I'm neither religious nor did I attack Motoki.  I did vote "No" though.

If you're getting freaked out and pissed off to the point where you have to lash out and attack people's opinions on an internet message board, then you need to unplug.  Whether permanently or just for a while, you obviously need a break.


According to your threads, you are new here, and I presume you don't know Motoki well, as we do. So why vote on some post, when you are not aquainted with the member, and know his character and deeds? Just to vote and make an impression on others?

That REALLY is childish  :( :( :(  , and I think YOU have take a break from this forum!



whoa now who the heck is UAINTJAK ??? ??? ??? Your name is appropriate for sure !!! you dont know Motoki but yet you took time to vote in a poll about someone you dont know ??? now would you please crawl back under the rock from whence you came!!!!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Baa on 2005 December 07, 00:58:12
I stayed away from that thread. Too long and stupid for my tastes, as I hate paysites. But as all threads do, it seems the topic has strayed off and hurt Motoki.

I wish Motoki well and I hope you come back. ;)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 07, 01:02:21
I stayed away from that thread. Too long and stupid for my tastes, as I hate paysites. But as all threads do, it seems the topic has strayed off and hurt Motoki.

I wish Motoki well and I hope you come back. ;)

Even the retardo landers apparently want Motoki to come back


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: vecki on 2005 December 07, 01:08:57
Come back Lord of Nannies!

I'm not going to say anything about that thread.  Take your time and come back when you're ready.  We'll welcome you back with open arms  ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Baa on 2005 December 07, 01:11:46
I stayed away from that thread. Too long and stupid for my tastes, as I hate paysites. But as all threads do, it seems the topic has strayed off and hurt Motoki.

I wish Motoki well and I hope you come back. ;)

Even the retardo landers apparently want Motoki to come back

...

Gee, thanks buddy!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: veilchen on 2005 December 07, 01:17:29
Well now, Kingdom has been around the Podium far more that RL lately :D, but anyway, I agree with Windy and others. If you need a break you need a break.

I also know all about burn-out, as a matter of fact, I'm getting near one now.
It has been a long semester and I need it to end. I will also take a short break, but only around two days or so. During that time, I will not touch this computer with a 10 foot pole. Well, maybe with a 10 foot pole, it might just reach the computer desk from my nice comfy couch from which I will not move unless for 'pressing' issues during those two day *stops deluting herself*

What we want to make clear here however, is that fact that we love/like Motoki, value his input, and generally enjoy his presence. We want to show him that we will be waiting for his return, whenever he is ready, and to please not make it either too long or even permanent.

No one wants to deny him a break, as I said before, if you need one, you need one, no ands ifs or butts about it.



Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 07, 01:18:55
I stayed away from that thread. Too long and stupid for my tastes, as I hate paysites. But as all threads do, it seems the topic has strayed off and hurt Motoki.

I wish Motoki well and I hope you come back. ;)

Even the retardo landers apparently want Motoki to come back

...

Gee, thanks buddy!
uhh Kingdom the retardo landers Im referring to are the ones who rarey ever venture to the podium. sorry to offend you :-[


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Baa on 2005 December 07, 01:24:03
I stayed away from that thread. Too long and stupid for my tastes, as I hate paysites. But as all threads do, it seems the topic has strayed off and hurt Motoki.

I wish Motoki well and I hope you come back. ;)

Even the retardo landers apparently want Motoki to come back

...

Gee, thanks buddy!
uhh Kingdom the retardo landers Im referring to are the ones who rarey ever venture to the podium. sorry to offend you :-[

Oh, well you quoted me so I figured you were pointing the finger at me. It's ok, I don't hold grudges.

It's sorta true, I have been in The Podium a bit more. I only go to RL to get my daily dosage of idiocy from Dr Coolome. ;)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 07, 01:24:25
I for one understand the need for a break, I've had more than one in the last few months, just played my game and turned the Internet off for days!  But was my inbox full afterwards!

Motoki, go and play civilisations or whatever it is you're into just now, then when you get bored with that, come and be bored here instead - at least you'll be among people who care about you!  And in cyberland, that's a rare achievement.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: veilchen on 2005 December 07, 01:35:29
Yeah, and worried me half do death in the process ZZ. I couldn't even e-mail you, my address book got wiped out (what a mess that was) and I lost every single e-mail address I had saved there.

Don't do that anymore, at least pop in to tell me you're alright 'mkay?


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 07, 01:44:53
I am sorry about that, and it was so nice to find that people cared!  I'll let you have my email address again, though.  I understand what it's like to lose your address book - when my PC had to be upgraded, I thought I'd copies everything over to the back-up disk, but it turned out all my emails, my favourites list and all my addresses had just gone drifting off into cyberspace!  It took me ages to get even half of them back!  funny, though, the only thing that didn't get lost was my AIM buddies.



Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: MsMaria on 2005 December 07, 01:49:45
Motoki, you are one of the reasons I enjoy the Podium so much. You are smart, insightful, funny and talented. Please come back. :)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Katze on 2005 December 07, 01:50:38
Please come back again your posts where very helpfull and your constant trouble with the nannies gave me a few chuckles.
I will miss you, so take a little break but come back to us. :)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: LK on 2005 December 07, 01:56:32
Well, I said some stuff in that stupid thread that I'm not going to reiterate here, but this all is just stupid.  It's the INTERNET, fer cryin' out loud!  How can you be intolerant of WORDS, unless you're illiterate, or something? 

And Banglenuts: I don't know if I'm one of your "Retardo Landers" (I don't have any trash cans, after all), but I simply don't have anything useful to contribute here that hasn't already been said.  Plus, there aren't a lot of people to make fun of in the Podium.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: MokeyHokey on 2005 December 07, 02:02:51
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Motoki is special.  MATY is a great board and Motoki is one of the reasons.  He's funny, and kind and helpful and charming.  He's one of five or so regular members here who stand out like a gem.   Yeah, he's a modder too, but it's not his mods that make him precious, it's his personality that comes through in all of his posts.

Hear hear!  Come back soon, Motoki! :'(


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 07, 02:03:07
Well, I said some stuff in that stupid thread that I'm not going to reiterate here, but this all is just stupid.  It's the INTERNET, fer cryin' out loud!  How can you be intolerant of WORDS, unless you're illiterate, or something? 

And Banglenuts: I don't know if I'm one of your "Retardo Landers" (I don't have any trash cans, after all), but I simply don't have anything useful to contribute here that hasn't already been said.  Plus, there aren't a lot of people to make fun of in the Podium.

One of the Sticks and Stones brigade, I see!

People don't generally commit suicide because of physical injury, but a personal attack on them with WORDS has frequently had that effect.  Words can hurt very much indeed, it just doesn't show on the outside.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: syberspunk on 2005 December 07, 02:03:44
Edit: God! Will everyone STOP replying so I can get MINE in already!  ::)

Awww, Motoki left? This is what I get for like barely keeping up with all the threads going on around here.   :-\

But... well... I tend to agree with Motoki and Pescado about paysites, although if there ever was a site that I would probably donate to, it probably would be MATY. Looks like I missed the fiasco, and I'm not sure if I should bother taking a look. As I said to Pescado in chat, I can't bear to look at what goes on in RL. My sensibilities are far too... well sensitive and as Pescado was quick to point out ;) I'm just far too weak and feeble. So that's why I pretty much stay out of there. :P

Regardless of the fact that I had no idea what was goin on, I still wanted to post here in support and in hopes of bringing Motoki back. I've always liked Motoki and I think he is a valuable person to this Community. I've always looked up to and admired his strength of character. So I am quite surprised that something happened that was offensive enough that he would want to take a break. As a very blatant and obviously vocal member who identifies as homosexual, I probably would have been extremely offended myself. I don't know the details, heck I don't even know if Motoki is gay or not, but my general impression is that he's always been supportive, open-minded, and words fail me right now to describe the wonderfulness that is all things Motoki.  :D

But I definately agree with aussieone  :-* Despite being somewhat comfortable in my own skin, and it had taken awhiles for me to get to this point, it's still somewhat of a shock whenever I still experience prejudice, bigotry, and ignorance. You would think that in this day and age, people in general would have become more accepting, or at least tolerant (although I really dislike that word) of other people's lifestyles. What people choose to do in their bedroom is of no concern to anyone else outside of that loving, committed, and consensual relationship. Anyways, whenever I experience this, that is whenever this kind of hate rears its ugly head, I also get that feeling like I wanna curl up into a ball and crawl back into my closet and bawl like a little girl. :P But I try my best to let it slide off my back (knowing full well in the back of my mind that the person(s) making those ignorant comments are probably just sad, pathetic, lonely, hideous and friendless trolls :P) and then I "go to my happy place" (somewhere between the arms of my lover(s) and my friends and family) where I feel safe and welcome and loved.

Anyhew, I hope that Motoki does come back and that his hiatus (and that's what I consider it) is only temporary. Come back soon Motoki! MATY loves you!  :-*

Ste


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 07, 02:04:31
Well, I said some stuff in that stupid thread that I'm not going to reiterate here, but this all is just stupid.  It's the INTERNET, fer cryin' out loud!  How can you be intolerant of WORDS, unless you're illiterate, or something? 

And Banglenuts: I don't know if I'm one of your "Retardo Landers" (I don't have any trash cans, after all), but I simply don't have anything useful to contribute here that hasn't already been said.  Plus, there aren't a lot of people to make fun of in the Podium.
LK Many of the Kids in RL never come over to the Podium . that being said they found out Motoki left when the nasty thread  was moved there and it was something nice I noticed that Motoki who did visit Retardo Land were asking Motoki to return as well. so in the off Chance Motoki reads this thread he will know that the Majority of MATY wants him to return not just the Podium.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: LK on 2005 December 07, 02:05:44
One of the Sticks and Stones brigade, I see!

People don't generally commit suicide because of physical injury, but a personal attack on them with WORDS has frequently had that effect.  Words can hurt very much indeed, it just doesn't show on the outside.

Huh?  Who said anyone was going to kill themselves?  What I meant was that how could someone be intolerant of a person (Motoki) when all they know about him is what is written on a screen?


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 07, 02:12:18
One of the Sticks and Stones brigade, I see!

People don't generally commit suicide because of physical injury, but a personal attack on them with WORDS has frequently had that effect.  Words can hurt very much indeed, it just doesn't show on the outside.

Huh?  Who said anyone was going to kill themselves?  What I meant was that how could someone be intolerant of a person (Motoki) when all they know about him is what is written on a screen?
did you not read the bigotry that was projected at gay people in that thread?Im not gay but have experienced half a lifetime of the same type of bigotry  simply because 2 of my four children inherited a mental Illness from their father. one we now know is genetic .words can and do hurt even when they are on a screen.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: uaintjak on 2005 December 07, 02:14:42
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The one who attacked Motoki, and is very religious...

<curious> who did you feel attacked Motoki? The only personal attack I saw was by christianluv and it wasn't Motoki that was being attacked... There were a lot of opinions, even some offensive opinions, but I didn't see anything else that was purposefully or personally ...aggressive... maybe I missed something. As I had no intention of entering the debate, I wasn't reading that closely.

People are entitled to their opinions, and to express them, even if they're wrong ...*especially* if they're wrong, sos we get the chance to tell them so in a very authoritative tone which is undoubtedly going to make them change their minds <tongue firmly in cheek, of course>"


sagana, I am not against peoples' opinions - I am against unpoliteness! If you don't like some virtue, but you know that somebody here does have the virtue - you have to be polite, and VERY careful not to hurt his feelings. You don't talk to an empty space - you talk to people, and have to think twice, before you "throw your opinion in the air".

I'm the prick, actually.  And for the record, I'm neither religious nor did I attack Motoki.  I did vote "No" though.

If you're getting freaked out and pissed off to the point where you have to lash out and attack people's opinions on an internet message board, then you need to unplug.  Whether permanently or just for a while, you obviously need a break."



According to your threads, you are new here, and I presume you don't know Motoki well, as we do. So why vote on some post, when you are not aquainted with the member, and know his character and deeds? Just to vote and make an impression on others?

That REALLY is childish  :( :( :(  , and I think YOU have take a break from this forum!


Why have a poll with more than one option if you only want people to vote one way?  I've seen Motoki's posts since, oh, Mod the Sims days, I guess, so I'm as familiar with his posting style as you are, I imagine.  And no, actually, I'm not all that new here - although I'm not sure why that makes a difference.  Thanks for your opinion, though, it was duly noted.  Ya'll seem to think I have some personal beef against Motoki or something - I mean, I AM a religious prick, after all.  Actually, though, I just think the poor guy needs a break, which is why I voted that no, he shouldn't come back - until he calms down and realizes that he's getting upset over alot more than what people posted.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: LK on 2005 December 07, 02:18:18
did you not read the bigotry that was projected at gay people in that thread?Im not gay but have experienced half a lifetime of the same type of bigotry  simply because 2 of my four children inherited a mental Illness from their father. one we now know is genetic .words can and do hurt even when they are on a screen.

Oh, for Pete's sake, you're still not getting it!  I'm not talking about having words hurt--I KNOW words can hurt.  I'm saying that people can't judge others based on something as one-dimensional as words on a screen.  Not the hurtful words that were said about Motoki, but Motoki himself--everything he has said on MATY,the only thing that we have to know him as a person.  Simple posts on a message board are not enough to KNOW somebody enough to judge them.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: syberspunk on 2005 December 07, 02:29:14
Actually, and forgive me since I only skimmed that thread, but I personally did not see anything that was out of hand. I actually didn't see anything that was so extreme that warranted a move to RL. But then again, I could have missed something, since I didn't feel like reading the whole thing. Heh.

I can see how certain things can be interpreted as offensive, and in a way, I can see how things that were said can be taken as hurtful. But I did not see anyone explicitly expressing homophobic sentiments, merely excusing their existence. Which isn't so great, but understandable. But there may have been more in there that I didn't read or read into. *shrugs*

Regardless, I hope that this thread does not deteriorate into a back and forth off topic argument that would warrant a removal to RL as well. The purpose of this thread is send good vibes and bring back brother Motoki. Let's not stray from that path, my darlings. Thank you. 'twould be a sin. ;)

Ste


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Motoki on 2005 December 07, 02:31:07
Oh for goodness sakes people please don't fight over me. Such drama. I'm sorry I said anything. I'm just going through a lot of stuff irl some family stuff and stress at work and things that normally wouldn't get to me so much are getting to me a lot more. I'm not mad at anyone and I don't want anyone getting mad at anyone because of me. It wasn't so much what was said but rather I'm just not in the emotional state to deal with it right now and I need to step back because it's getting me upset irl.

Pescado is absolutely right that's the price of free speech that people can say things hurtful or upsetting etc. I wouldn't want him to censor this place. Then it would be as bad as MTS2 or VS or TSR. If it didn't make it clear, the problem is me and stuff I'm going through right now. I've also lost any interest in the game and I don't know if anyone noticed but I've just been posting a lost less even before any of this came up and had in truth been thinking of taking off for a while before that so it's not 100% the reason of what's been said in that thread either.

I didn't expect this much reaction and I do appreciate it to an extent. I'm kind of suprised that a lot of you guys care enough about me that it's really that important to you and I will miss talking to you guys. I admittedly do sometimes make statements to stir things up and cause controversy but this time I honestly didn't. I should have just kept my mouth shut and left but like I said, I'm just going through some stuff right now. I really just am not up to keep coming back here right now so please no one keep pming me to come back here or what's being said here etc because I really don't want to be dragged back at the moment. I just don't have the emotional energy for it right now.

At the risk of getting hate mail and even more spam (if that's even possible) if anyone wants to talk to me privately my email is motoki@dhp.com and I'll try and pop into Brynne and Reg's place here and there because they're a little smaller private and more intimate. Just if you email me please try to identify yourself somehow in the subject heading because I get tons of spam and I don't want to overlook anyone's emails.

Anyway, I really didn't want to post again for a while but I don't want people starting fights over me or making more out of it than it is, but I do appreciate that you guys care that much. Just don't be mad at any one for my sake. I'm not mad at anyone, just sad at some of the things that were said but that's life.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: PlaidSquirrel on 2005 December 07, 02:40:12
All I know about any of you is what I've seen on the screen but I know that even if I don't agree with everything you all say I do like Mitoki and a lot of the rest of you too.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: kewian on 2005 December 07, 02:54:29
Aww..Motoki you know how we love a good fight... ;)  but hope to see you again sometime....  :) 


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Brynne on 2005 December 07, 02:59:56

At the risk of getting hate mail and even more spam (if that's even possible) if anyone wants to talk to me privately my email is motoki@dhp.com and I'll try and pop into Brynne and Reg's place here and there because they're a little smaller private and more intimate. Just if you email me please try to identify yourself somehow in the subject heading because I get tons of spam and I don't want to overlook anyone's emails.

Please do come to my site, Motoki...I miss ya already.
Although at this point I'm sure you're no longer reading this thread  :P 


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 07, 03:02:02

At the risk of getting hate mail and even more spam (if that's even possible) if anyone wants to talk to me privately my email is motoki@dhp.com and I'll try and pop into Brynne and Reg's place here and there because they're a little smaller private and more intimate. Just if you email me please try to identify yourself somehow in the subject heading because I get tons of spam and I don't want to overlook anyone's emails.

Please do come to my site, Motoki...I miss ya already.
Although at this point I'm sure you're no longer reading this thread  :P 
I miss ya too even when you call me Bagelnuts


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: idtaminger on 2005 December 07, 06:40:58
Ya'll seem to think I have some personal beef against Motoki or something - I mean, I AM a religious prick, after all.

Ya'll? Isn't that a Southern thing?  ;)

Buuuuut anyways, pple should really calm down. The drama! Evryone should take a deeeeep breath. Apparently Motoki has his own problems. Let him deal with it. No need to get all riled up.

To Motoki - Hopefully you resolve it soon, and get back to your jolly self. In the meantime, you'll obviously be much missed. :-* :D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Rascal on 2005 December 07, 07:25:14
Motoki - please come back from me too!

I didn't read the thread that upset you - but your great sense of humour was a major reason for me signing up here and I miss you.  I usually only lurk and seldom post but I always read any threads started by you.  Don't take any notice of narrow minds - most people here are better than that!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Inge on 2005 December 07, 07:41:55
Threads about pay sites always make people fall out.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: skandelouslala on 2005 December 07, 07:55:00
Aww Motoki..sorry we won't be seeing your around as much..quite a bummer...I have really enjoyed your presence what little I know of you.  Stop by when you can and feel like it and good luck with everything.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: cwykes on 2005 December 07, 11:19:32
You aren't the only one spending alot of time on the boards when they aren't too happy in RL.  Some of us understand that pretty well, though I bet we could write a book on all the different problems we have.  I know it can really knock you back when something here upsets you.  I got banned from an official board a while back and I was so upset that trying to help people had got me banned.  It doesn't happen to respectable middle aged ladies - Ok so I'd rather not be so respectable and middle aged is getting generous..  It took me 3 months to go back to that board.  I hope we'll see again you sooner.  You've made a big contribution to this board and MTS2 and through that to thousands of simmers all over the world.  That's something to be proud of.  I love your quick humour - Simpotence is a great concept.

I don't know you and you don't know me, but best wishes and I hope you'll be back sooner. Maybe we'll get to be board friends eventually.  Everyone will think of you when they read your old posts and wish or pray or whatever - maybe it has some power...


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: sabra on 2005 December 07, 13:22:26
Well, Motoki, I hope you get things sorted and come back.  I really don't understand why you were offended by what I wrote, but I don't dispute your feelings.

I'm bowing out, too, because I seem to have contributed to the drama, which was never my intention.

*resumes silent lurk mode*


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 07, 14:52:38
Well, Motoki, I hope you get things sorted and come back.  I really don't understand why you were offended by what I wrote, but I don't dispute your feelings.

I'm bowing out, too, because I seem to have contributed to the drama, which was never my intention.

*resumes silent lurk mode*
Just so you know Sabra my intention was not to put anyone on the hot seat here but Rather  to let Motoki Know that people here do care about him  and are wishing obviously that he would stick around  but also to give him some support in a time when he appears to need the support and caring the most.
  by stopping posting Sabra you  arent giving us a chance to get to know you I dont know of  many lurkers that get  support here because  silrence isnt golden when your game is becoming a BFBVFS. and to Inge : its very Clear that you are correct about Paysite topics being a subject that obviously overheats people
   All the members here contribute something meaningful to this board  whether they have the Tasty tourist Rank like any brandnew member get with their first post or  the Terrible twerp Rank which is given  when you have tons of posts
     Motoki and his nutty nannies will be missed as he is one of the members  who Has Made a huge impact on alot of us  even though he may not have known that before now.
           
   


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Inge on 2005 December 07, 15:30:04
I'm sure Motoki will be back.  He has a good deal of self-insight and he knows when it would be good for his psyche to have a break from a situation.  I hope it won't be for too long. :)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 07, 15:34:03
From a Terrible Twerp to a Retarded Reprobate, can I just say how much I agree with everything you've just said, Bangelnuts (or as Motoki would say, Bagelnuts) although I don't think it was really the pay site topic itself that caused the problem but more that it got derailed when it ran out of steam.  


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Brynne on 2005 December 07, 15:34:43
I've been in contact with him, and he just needs a break right now.  He has a lot on his plate, so he needs to take some much deserved Motoki-time.



Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: sunkitten on 2005 December 07, 16:00:46
I hope Motoki comes back when he feels ready for it.

SunKitten (lurker)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 07, 16:06:29
Nice to meet you, sunkitten!  I'm sure Motoki will be back - how could he stay away forever when so many people obviously care about him?

And now you've come out of the shadows, please live up to your name and stay in the sunlight!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: qvcatullus on 2005 December 07, 16:33:45
Nice to meet you, sunkitten!  I'm sure Motoki will be back - how could he stay away forever when so many people obviously care about him?

And now you've come out of the shadows, please live up to your name and stay in the sunlight!

I dunno -- have you ever met a kitten in the sun? They mostly just lie there and sleep. I have one that snores and another that drools. Either of which might be more appropriate back in RL.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: VJay on 2005 December 07, 16:44:24
I've read Motoki's posts for such a long time, first when he posted at TSR along with Pescado, then MTS2, then VS and now here. I've always liked his posts. I'll sure miss them but taking a break is good.  ;D
Yeah, I'm such a lurker and read everything.  :P
Take care, Motoki, I'll miss your posts.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: LynnMar on 2005 December 07, 16:54:46
yes,  I love Motoki.   who would do anything mean to Motoki?     A big ole pox on them.   >:(


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 07, 16:57:24
Nice to meet you, sunkitten!  I'm sure Motoki will be back - how could he stay away forever when so many people obviously care about him?

And now you've come out of the shadows, please live up to your name and stay in the sunlight!

I dunno -- have you ever met a kitten in the sun? They mostly just lie there and sleep. I have one that snores and another that drools. Either of which might be more appropriate back in RL.

Well, you can have snow and sunshine at the same time, and kittens love playing with snowflakes!  Or in the summer, trying to catch bees and getting stung!  I guess it depends how high their playfulness score is!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: MutantBunny on 2005 December 07, 17:00:09
I have ALWAYS enjoyed Motoki's posts and work. He has been one of the few that always stand up for the things he believes ina nd vioces his views. I have never ever read any posts where he has fl;amed or attacked any person. He's one of the good ones!

Please don't leave Motoki! MATY and many other sites NEED people like you.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: BlueSoup on 2005 December 07, 17:18:49
Clearly, we'll miss you Motoki.  I hope everything gets sorted out in your real life (whaddya mean it's not here   :o) and you can return full of piss and vinegar like the Motoki I've come to appreciate seeing on the boards.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Lion on 2005 December 07, 18:35:51
I have yet to catch up with all these posts, and of course, I skipped the pay site thread. What a bummer to know that beloved Motoki has left MATY for it! I have noticed Motoki since Prescado's MTS2 era, then VS, then here (guess I missed the TSR era). I never missed Motoki's threads, and would stop for Motoki posts even when I was just glancing through. (I was a little turned off by his current, arguably the ugliest nannie).

Well, Motoki, by now, if not earlier, you should've known how much you are loved here, and more importantly, you shouldn't feel obliged to post here.  Try The Movie-the game, and tell us about it. I was very excited about it and was tracking it all these time, but the look of the sims (what do they call them, the little pixle people?) seems too cartoonish. I trust your opinions.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Kitiara on 2005 December 07, 20:40:27
Everyone else has already said it so well. Sooo....Ditto. And come back when you are ready.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 December 07, 22:58:15
Same here.  Motoki don't leave us we need you!  Sorry to read you have family problems, I hope these will be solve and go for the best very soon.  I give you a huge hug.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: baratron on 2005 December 08, 01:10:17
Hello people! Motoki posted! Look up the thread!

He said he needs a break due to real-life stress. I'm sure he'll come back eventually.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: sunkitten on 2005 December 08, 03:41:50
Thanks for the welcome, ZephyrZodiac. :)

I'm another one who comes here mainly for escape (and for the great hacks, heh) but will probably lurk a lot more than post until RL is a little less grim.

but I hope Motoki does read this thread and realize how many people think well of him and how much he's welcomed here.

SunKitten


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 11:03:54
I wouldn't be surprised - he'd only need to log out and no-one would know he was around!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Inge on 2005 December 08, 12:49:32
I can't see Motoki playing games like that, somehow.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 13:01:39
I can't see Motoki playing games like that, somehow.
I  agree Inge. I think Motoki really is taking some time away from Maty.I cant see Motoki playing those type of games either


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 13:04:06
I can't see Motoki playing games like that, somehow.

Well, I wouldn't see it as playing games exactly, Inge, just thinking that if people were to notice he was around, they might start expecting him to post, and if he wasn't up to that, then anonymity is the best for everyone.  But there are some threads he's been pretty active in, and he might just be interested in any furthr developments.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 13:12:04
I can't see Motoki playing games like that, somehow.

Well, I wouldn't see it as playing games exactly, Inge, just thinking that if people were to notice he was around, they might start expecting him to post, and if he wasn't up to that, then anonymity is the best for everyone.  But there are some threads he's been pretty active in, and he might just be interested in any furthr developments.
I talked with Motoki a couple of nights ago in live chat and he really sounded  stressed out and in serious need of a break from the mumbo jumbo that can go on here.and Brynne has talked with him since then. and he hasnt been around MATY since he posted in this thread. he indicated in chat that he needed a break to take care of RL Issues .


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 13:24:22
Bangelnuts, Hi!  I've also had some email contact with him, and I agree.  I just thought really that by saying what I did, it might just stop people continuing to wonder.  We know he will probably be back eventually, and I thought it was time for all the wondering and commenting to die down a bit.  He knows how everyone feels, and I know he appreciates everyone's concern, and I'm sure that once he's feeling better he'll stop by, if only to just say hallo.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 13:45:51
Bangelnuts, Hi!  I've also had some email contact with him, and I agree.  I just thought really that by saying what I did, it might just stop people continuing to wonder.  We know he will probably be back eventually, and I thought it was time for all the wondering and commenting to die down a bit.  He knows how everyone feels, and I know he appreciates everyone's concern, and I'm sure that once he's feeling better he'll stop by, if only to just say hallo.
I understand  what your'e saying but as you and I both know there are some here that will continue to comment and wonder no matter how many times its posted that Motoki is at his limits when it comes to RL stress's.I think to be honest Motoki wasnt aware how much impact he had made until this thread started and I know he expressed that he appreciated how much people here care about him. I think he indeed  needed this break and of course wish him all the best and hope his RL stresses soon die down.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 13:56:14
As we all do.  But sometimes, as I know from my own personal experience, you just have to close off from everything but the essentials just to keep everything in some kind of perspective that will allow you to deal with things.  If you get too caught up in inessentials, you never get things sorted out.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 15:16:38
As we all do.  But sometimes, as I know from my own personal experience, you just have to close off from everything but the essentials just to keep everything in some kind of perspective that will allow you to deal with things.  If you get too caught up in inessentials, you never get things sorted out.
Very true.there are times when I need to retreat from all but the absolute necessities of life just to regain my perspective.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 15:21:36
And to finish the washing up!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 15:24:24
And to finish the washing up!
true. My Simmies are my retreat from reality and my chance to play God for an hour or two :P after all they have to do what I say like it or not ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 15:37:51
Unlike your kids and hubby, huh?  Or my very self-willed and bossy cat (who usually succeeds in getting me to d o what HE wants!)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 15:40:40
Unlike your kids and hubby, huh?  Or my very self-willed and bossy cat (who usually succeeds in getting me to d o what HE wants!)
my Kids are all grown and wouldnt listen to me and trying to tell hubby is a real exercise in futility ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 15:47:21
Like my cat? ;D  (As someone, I think it was in a thread here, said:  Dogs have masters, cats have staff.)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 16:56:35
Like my cat? ;D  (As someone, I think it was in a thread here, said:  Dogs have masters, cats have staff.)
my cats are the same way they are currently outside freezing in the snow but refuse to come inside.and it is snowing right now


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 17:08:35
Well, mine doesn't go out, there's just too much traffic round here!  But that means a lot more work for the staff!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 17:11:18
Well, mine doesn't go out, there's just too much traffic round here!  But that means a lot more work for the staff!
I live in a very rural area so mine get to go out but they still make lots of work for the staff!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 17:14:18
Washing their plates is one of the worst!  At least, when I used to have a dog, I never had to scrape the cat's uneaten food into the bin!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 17:15:39
Washing their plates is one of the worst!  At least, when I used to have a dog, I never had to scrape the cat's uneaten food into the bin!
and keep the cats out the toilet at my house is a constant battle


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 17:18:47
Perhaps you need a "nopussyplaywithtoilet" fix!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 17:26:35
Perhaps you need a "nopussyplaywithtoilet" fix!
I definitely Do! ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 17:32:36
Maybe you should ask TJ to write one? ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 17:43:11
Maybe you should ask TJ to write one? ;D
ROFL ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 17:48:00
LOL ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: MokeyHokey on 2005 December 08, 18:12:23
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Perhaps you need a "nopussyplaywithtoilet" fix!

...I can think of various responses to that, but on second thought I think I'll let it go... :-X


Oh what the hell--my fat black pussy has always been obsessed watching flushing toilets... ;)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 19:16:19
Jen, when I posted the title for the "fix" I knew someone would pick up on the double-entendre - might have known it would be you! ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 19:24:51
Jen, when I posted the title for the "fix" I knew someone would pick up on the double-entendre - might have known it would be you! ;D
oh I picked up on it but I chose to deliberately overlook it to see how many responses it would get since I needed my laugh for the day ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Kitiara on 2005 December 08, 19:26:15
Oh, I got it too. I just didn't want to be the first to touch it. ;D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: MokeyHokey on 2005 December 08, 19:30:44
Oh, come on, you should KNOW I can't let something like that slide!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 19:56:33
 ;D Yes, I think we've know each other long enough for me to know you would definitely not let it slide!  But it sounded so much better than "Nocatplaywithtoilet" fix, somehow!   :D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 19:59:33
;D Yes, I think we've know each other long enough for me to know you would definitely not let it slide!  But it sounded so much better than "Nocatplaywithtoilet" fix, somehow!   :D
and much funnier with its double entendre :D


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Inge on 2005 December 08, 20:01:42
Oh what the hell--my fat black pussy has always been obsessed watching flushing toilets... ;)

I usually stand up and pull up my pants before flushing...


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 20:04:22
At least you don't pee through them! 


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Kitiara on 2005 December 08, 20:32:15
hahaha I'm ha laughing ha too hard hahaha to make haha much ha sense right hahahahaha now.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 20:37:58
As someone suggested might be the case with Jack Thompson!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 20:39:23
As someone suggested might be the case with Jack Thompson!
I think Jack Thompsons problem is he doesnt pee period!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 20:41:54
And that his pants are much too tight! ::)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 20:46:14
And that his pants are much too tight! ::)
and his overinflated ego keeps him from getting in the door to use the nonexistent toilet in his house anyway


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 20:49:55
Can he even get out of his car and get into the house?  When your head is that big, it must be difficult to walk without overbalancing!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: dewshine on 2005 December 08, 20:56:28
LOL... how did we get this far off topic?

(no comment to add about Jack Thompson)

I have a comment to make about Motoki though.

I'll miss him, surely.  I'll pass him whatever good vibes I can. I'll hope that once everything in hia RL is settled down and he wants to get back to Sims2 that he'll come back here. 

Until then I wish him strength to get through whatever it is that he's dealing with.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 08, 21:10:13
LOL... how did we get this far off topic?

(no comment to add about Jack Thompson)

I have a comment to make about Motoki though.

I'll miss him, surely.  I'll pass him whatever good vibes I can. I'll hope that once everything in hia RL is settled down and he wants to get back to Sims2 that he'll come back here. 

Until then I wish him strength to get through whatever it is that he's dealing with.
I hope Motoki  Has things righted quickly as family issues are the pit s and I also am keeping hm and his loved ones in my thoughts and Prayers


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: MokeyHokey on 2005 December 08, 23:07:26
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LOL... how did we get this far off topic?

I was just coming in to ask whyever we started discussing pussies in Motoki's thread. 


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 23:13:06
Well, Bangelnuts and I were just following up a couple of stray thoughts!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: MokeyHokey on 2005 December 08, 23:31:56
Incidentally, I finally found it.  I've been searching since my first post in this thread LOL--ignore the lovely peeling paint that my children pick at; I could wish it were as easy to repaint that bathroom as it is for my sims...


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Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 08, 23:36:11
That's a great pic, Mokey!  Could make a nice Avatar for someone!


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: gali on 2005 December 09, 02:00:48
Mokey, I love it...:). Just be careful not to put any cleaning liquids in the toilet...:).


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Kitiara on 2005 December 09, 04:07:43
LOL... how did we get this far off topic?
Meandering topics and thread-jacking are a long standing tradition here. (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=205.msg8917#msg8917)


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: dewshine on 2005 December 09, 04:26:08
Hahaha...


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Ellatrue on 2005 December 11, 07:46:48
I dunno, I remember he left MTS2 for similar reasons and got angry at everyone there... I was rather disappointed, because I liked him and his posts... all because of that ridiculous "delphy fan club" that no one took seriously anyway. I was happy to see him here, it's too bad.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 December 11, 13:06:56
I don't think Motoki is angry at anyone.  Just disappointed, perhaps.


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 11, 13:26:43
I don't think Motoki is angry at anyone.  Just disappointed, perhaps.
he stated he was not angry Just sad in his post on this thread


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: laeshanin on 2005 December 11, 23:52:41
Bloody hell...! There's been a bit of drama then, guys? Sorry to hear Motoki has decided to take his leave of us for a while, but sometimes the outside world has a way of kicking in. What has startled me is that there are bona fide bigots on this site. Dearie me, don't idiots get about? That kind of vomit needs to remain securely kept from the rest of reasonable people, because you can live a looooooonnng time without hearing it. Hey ho...  :(


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: gali on 2005 December 12, 00:22:43
He is back already...in Reggikko's site...:). We are envy...:).


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 December 12, 00:55:58
He is back already...in Reggikko's site...:). We are envy...:).
Motoki said he would go there and Brynnes place


Title: Re: Motoki Come Back
Post by: Hairfish on 2005 December 14, 10:54:47
I missed the poll closing, but just wanted to add my hopes that Motoki comes back when he's feeling better.

In the meantime, I'll think of him every time I play my non-saggy Elders.  :)