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By popular request.

NoEmptyHack -- Brought to you by Phedge34

Credit Inge for the original " No Empty Pot"

Extract file into your Downloads folder and enjoy.

This hack is now compatible with Phedge34's NoMidStreamStop Fix.
Note: Maxis didn't even program the potty right to begin with. Even
without this patch a toddler who is potty trained can use a the potty
when it is full.

Report any problems to phedge34@yahoo.com

Version history
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v2.0 

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NoMidStreamStop v1.0 -- Brought to you by Phedge34

Extract file into your Downloads folder and enjoy.

Toddlers no longer have the un-toddler like ability to stop peeing in mid stream.
You can now que commands after the potty and they wont stop 'til the their tank is empty.


Report any problems to phedge34@yahoo.com

Version history
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v1.0 Realistic toddler urination

(Edited to re-add hacks)

Oh bless you :D It aggravated me no end that they'd stop peeing just because I queued something else up for them!

Jen

I have the Simlogical no empty potty hack...is this used in addition or a replacement?

Twink

You must take out Inge's hack and use the one here that phedge modified to work with his no Midstream Stop hack.  It's not compatible with the original one that Inge has at her site.

Are these NL compatiable?

"Are these NL compatiable?"


yes

Thanks Phedge and might i say it's nice to see you at MATY.

Edit: Your NoEmptyHack.zip seems to lack the readme and instead contain NoWelcomeHome.zip i don't think this was intended was it?

Whatever could you mean?

*quickly reloads corrected zip file*

Everything looks on the up and up to me.

Thanks for this-no need to keep buying new potties all the time now :)

Too, too great. I used to have that hack, but it got wiped out in the crash meltdown of my hard drive. I am so grateful for you putting it up again Phedge, it was one of the biggest annoyances in the game. Especially because I kept forgetting not to queue anything else up while they were doing their 'thing', and usually ended up with a very stinky and unhappy toddler.

Can you tell me why an adult sim would be able to still empty the potty while the toddler is sitting on it doing their "thing?"  I've had this happen several times with this hack, but that was months ago.  I quit using it because of this and went back to just Inge's no empty potty hack alone.

Not sure. I will have to look into that.

I get that too and it's not limited to the neat freaks.
It's really disturbing to see mom or dad wait until their sweet little toddler is settled to reach between their legs and yoink out the 'blue balloon'. Particularly weird when it interrupts potty training and the toddler's bar is stuck at the same level.

edit: but not disturbing enough that I deleted it, heh heh

Are you using both the no-empty and no-stop hacks?

 I have no potty hacks installed in my game.   I have Sims2, Uni, and NL.     The parents will quite often do
this when the toddlers are using the potty chair.    I haven't noticed it while potty training, but they certainly do it when they take the child to the potty or if the child goes to the potty on it's own.   I think it might be a "feature" of Maxi programing.     

oops, sorry, apparently I didn't come back to this thread after posting.
I am using both, and have even deleted custom potties regardless of how adorable they are because this doesn't cover them and I can't bear to be without it.

but you can ignore me, I'm just on the base game and it really doesn't happen often (can't replicate it)

I'm using neither and I have it happen all the time.
It does not happen when pottytraining a toddler, but it happens a lot if an adult brings the toddler to the potty and end up standing in the room with nothing to do.
The kid keeps doing their thing, and when they finally are done the potty is empty.

I'm sure it's another maxis bug.
I'll be downloading this when I get back to my computer, unless maxis has fixed it in the next EP (yeah, right).

It's those neat sims again!  Catch Don doing THAT autonomously!  But I've had them walk all the way upstairs JUST to empty the potty!

Any parents out there who do it the sim way?  I thought the normal thing was to take the potty to the loo, empty it and wash it out!

I believe that is the norm, but most real people don't have potties that regenerate little blue liners which turn urine into garbage if you drop them...

Well, I suppose they don't have kids who produce blue pee either! ;D

I just wanted to say thanks for this! 

I just dl'ed it last night and it works great (post-NLP2).  I had just plain gotten used to not giving another order for the toddler until he/she was done with the potty, but I had a real houseful the other night and forgot & queued up something else for the toddler, who was then grabbed by a parent and tucked in bed with a fairly full bladder (in the yellow quite a ways).  Someone posted a note about this mod in another thread, so I came here and checked it out.

Love it already!

I rarely queue anything else for toddlers now, as it makes it so problematic if you want a parent to give them a bath etc.  So if I want them to learn a logic skill, I put the logic toy nearest the potty.  Mostly they head for the nearest fun object, but if a parent is instructed to feed them, or bath them etc., then they stop and wait to be held.

Yeah, I usually keep the wabbit close by for that same reason.  I'm in a mode right now where I'm trying to see how close I can get my toddlers to maxing out the charisma skill.  I've only had two so far that actually maxed it.  (Should that be one 'x' or two?  Looks odd either way.)

I think it should be max'ed (since it's an abbreviation for maximised!)

I use the podium for kids to gain charisma - if they've had smart milk as toddlers then it's amazing how quickly they become proficient public speakers!  But I honestly don't like my toddlers to get more than two or three points for each toy, I like them to have something to aim for all their lives!

Sometimes I just put the doll house nearest.  I've just had a couple of twin girls in my game, who were nearly friends before growing up because they'd played together with the doll house.

I love the Baby Controller for this.  It keeps parents from obsessively feeding and bathing toddlers, and it frees me from having to micromanage the little ones so I can devote more attention to the older ones, especially the teens and children.  I get bored playing smaller houses anyway.  I can always turn it off if needed when I want the parents to play with the toddler, teach it to walk, etc., but it's not always necessary.  With Inge's hack that enables them to get out of the crib on their own more often, they usually don't even have to wait for someone to let them out if everyone is busy, so they can take themselves to the potty after they are trained. :)

The correct spelling is "maxed."  That's how I've always seen it, and just to be sure, I looked it up in the dictionary online.  It would not be correct to put an apostrophe because it isn't actually a contraction.  It is actually a slang/informal word.

Oh, American English!

Of course. ;)

Lol!  Either way sounds right, I guess.  But they all just look wrong!

Anyone have copies of these hacks that they can re-upload here?  The originals were lost in the board crash...

I only have the NoMidStreamStop.

Now my question and apologies in advance if I'd missed any mention of it - are they compatible with OFB? Anyone know?

Yes, they are -- there's a thread up in the Podium about Inge bailing out, and it was mentioned that Inge herself sugested using these because they're more compatible with OFB than her own 'noemptypot' hack.  Phedge's is based on hers, in fact.

Oh, and thank you both for uploading these!

Gah! Why is it that I didn't find these 'til my toddlers weren't toddlers anymore?!? Oh well... At least I'll have 'em for the next generation!

I don't think the "no empty potty" is the right version. I DL'd the mid stream hack and the no empty potty from this page. The no empty potty is the same size as Inge's, which I removed from my game.

Well, now they have to empty the potty again.

Yea, I believe this is Inge's version, not the modified version -- if you use it with the midstream hack, it breaks.  If you take the midstream hack out, it works fine, and the potties don't have to be emptied.

I have the "stream" version of no empty.

Yay!  you're a princess among simmers!

Can someone with mod type access tidy-up this thread.

I'd like to use the no mid-stream stop hack but the top of thread post is sans download links.

This is not awesome enough.  ???

The originals were lost in the dish crash.  You can find the nomidstreamstop hack at the bottom of reply #29 in this thread, and the modified noemptypotty in #34.

Thanks Joe,
I suspected those were the correct downloads but I wanted to see some verification cos I'm a bit dim.

Yes, they're all correct -- both work fine in my game now.  Thanks to the folks who dug them up!

I've got both of the proper hacks in my game now. I have a few observances. Please tell me if this is normal.

1. Occasionally the toddler still gets off the pot in mid stream, although not as often as before, usually when the parent wants to give them a bottle or bath.

2. The nanny (Christianlov's) and parents are emptying the potty autonomously although I haven't had any problems with the toddlers being able to use the pot if not empty, even when I instruct them to go. When I was using Inge's mod no one ever emptied the pot at all. (If I remember correctly, back before I had any mods in the game no parent ever emptied the pot autonomously either. But then maybe I had lazier or sloppier parents at the time).

Is this normal behavior?

I had observed this same behavior when I tried it about a year ago.  I don't remember if I had Uni or just the base game, but I went back to using Inge's hack because they would never empty the potty with that one.  It just freaked me out a bit to see parents reaching down between a toddlers legs and yanking out a bag (of poo???).   :P

I've taken the two attachments from yetyak and CuriousSpurious and re-added them to the top post, then removed them from their posts.  Thanks ya'll :)

Well, since they still get off the pot...and that is what I was trying to stop...I'll probably revert also. First I think I'll experiment a little and find out what makes them get off and what behavior is protected by this mod.

It was kinda gross watching the nanny go through the kitchen to get to that particular bathroom to empty the poo. Especially with the headmaster there. It probably didn't affect anything...it was just the thought.

Thanks for answering.

Yes, I know Necromancy is bad, but since VS is beyond resurrection...has anybody confirmed whether NoMidStreamStop works with Seasons?

I've had it in up until earlier today when I switched over to TJ's version of potty hacks, and it's never given me a problem in Seasons.  Granted, I wasn't specifically checking to make sure they finished up, but nothing struck me as being out of the ordinary, such as a tired toddler spazzing out on me while piddling.

The only thing odd that happened was finally seeing toddlers refusing to be potty trained, but bumping up their fun fixed that issue, and didn't seem to have anything to do with the mod.

So, a qualified yes?