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Title: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 04, 11:47:03 I'm kind of tired of my gay sim's adopted children looking... well, adopted? So I looked up surrogacy mods but found nothing other than "tutorials" on moving in a female sim, knocking her up, and moving her out once the baby was born, and well I did not find that to be a satisfying method. Which is why I came up with this idea...
Let me know if this is "non-awesome" or might result in a BFBVFS, but I wanted to point out that I haven't encountered any problems with this method so far. So here goes: 1 - You'll want to use the "editsim" cheat and open up each sim parent and save them to the sim bin. (Note: this doesn't seem to work for sims who are not on the currently selected lot." 2 - Once you have both sims saved, you'll want to go into "Edit Town" and into the "Create Sims" tool. 3 - Using the sim bin "saves," recreate the sim parents. 4 - Now depending on whether the parents are of same or opposite genders, you'll need to have them of opposite genders, easily achieved for same-sex couples by ticking the opposite gender on one of the sims. (Obvious, much?) 5 - Anyways, now you'll want to use the "Play with Genetics" tool, mess around with it until you have an offspring to your liking. This might also be a good time to plan out outfits, change personality to resemble the parents, etc. 7 - Now to apply the changes to the offspring, simply open up the cheats console and use the "editsim" cheat on the offspring and apply the sim bin save. 6 - Create household, place somewhere in neighborhood. 7 - With the adopted offspring selected, use the "bodysnatch" cheat by entering the offspring "replacement"'s name in the cheat console like this: "bodysnatch Simmy Simons" Simmy Simons being the replacement's name. 8 - And voila, a child that looks hopefully "more" biological. ;D Hope this helps. Please comment. ::) Thanks. :D EDIT: Smiley appearing where a smiley shouldn't have. <_< EDIT, AGAIN: Perfectionism strikes again. <_< EDIT: For fail-ness and unreliavole-ness. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 July 04, 12:48:32 7 - Now to apply the changes to the offspring, simply open up the cheats console and use the "editsim" cheat on the offspring and apply the sim bin save. What are you, the Unreliavole? You can't access the simbin in Editsim. To do this CORRECTLY, you should complete the household creation process, install them somewhere, return to your original sim you wish to change, then use the "bodysnatch" command to devour the newly-created sim and steal his skin for your original sim. You can perform this method for any sim you wish to have look like any other sim you can make.Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 04, 12:57:41 What are you, the Unreliavole? Apparently. 0_0 The idea worked better in my head, I guess. <_< I'm going to have to look up this "bodysnatch" feature you speak of, heard it thrown around once or twice never thought I'd need it. So the tutorial did end up being deemed "un-awesome." :\ Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Motoki on 2010 July 04, 14:17:13 Well if Pescado would actually enable (without a mod) same sex Try for a Baby in the Science Lab then people wouldn't need to jump through such hoops. Or better yet, some sort of DNA combining, instant offspring method since I kind of hate the male pregnancy thing. I'll deal with it though if the only other alternatives are the above shenanigans or fugly EAxis DNA rugrats.
Bodysnatch, while a nice feature to have, I kind of avoid since if you want to give a sim 'surgery' or else have them look different than anyone currently in town it requires creating a superfluous sim. I miss having (TS2) SimPE since it was easy to just copy the facial structure of any sim, even bin ones, and move it over to another sim in town. It's probably doable with S3PE actually, just less user friendly. I'll have to look into it. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Chandria on 2010 July 04, 14:36:45 If I'm talking off the top of my head, I know I'll get pounced on for this, but here goes anyways. :P
I have Twallan's super computer in my game along with AM, and while I don't have any gay couples at the moment, couldn't his computer's "Pollinate" command circumvent the AM's anti-male/male pregnancy and produce a biological child of both parents? If not, I am fairly sure that the relationship could be changed with it from adopted to biological by setting both of the adult males as parents. If I'm wrong, pounce away. :-\ Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Motoki on 2010 July 04, 14:42:13 I haven't tried Twallan's computer, but his Pollinator does indeed bypass Pescado's draconian ban on same sex pregnancy on the back end. I imagine the computer would work similarly.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 July 04, 14:47:07 As far as I know, there's no current ban. The rules presently require that for a pregnancy to be valid, the sim to be pollinated must have a valid pregmesh. Additionally, there are rules to handle situations where there are no Y chromosomes. If you pollinate female-female, you will get a female no matter how many apples you eat, simply because without a Y chromosome in the picture, you can't get a male.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Motoki on 2010 July 04, 15:10:53 As far as I know, there's no current ban. The rules presently require that for a pregnancy to be valid, the sim to be pollinated must have a valid pregmesh. Additionally, there are rules to handle situations where there are no Y chromosomes. If you pollinate female-female, you will get a female no matter how many apples you eat, simply because without a Y chromosome in the picture, you can't get a male. I thought you said you blocked Same Sex Try for a Baby but then allowed for it in the Science Lab. ??? Well call me confused. Anyway, if that's the case Twoftmama's Same Sex Pregnancy mods should work too, though she's been noting they don't work with Awesomemod. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: jezzer on 2010 July 04, 15:17:30 Quote I haven't tried Twallan's computer, but his Pollinator does indeed bypass Pescado's draconian ban on same sex pregnancy on the back end. Far be it from me to point out unfortunate wording, but... Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 July 04, 15:41:59 I thought you said you blocked Same Sex Try for a Baby but then allowed for it in the Science Lab. ??? Should work as long as you're trying to do this in a science lab.Well call me confused. Anyway, if that's the case Twoftmama's Same Sex Pregnancy mods should work too, though she's been noting they don't work with Awesomemod. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: varmint on 2010 July 04, 16:19:42 My tried-and-true, biologically-correct homopregnation method is:
1. Male pregnancy meshes. I use these (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,16774.0.html), they haven't been updated in a while but they still work fine for me. 2. Use pollinate command from twallan's supercomputer. After successful pollination, supercomputer also allows you to set the gender of the nascent spawn. There's also an 'Instant Baby' command in there I've never played with. 3. Congratulate your new homoparents. I have awesomemod running throughout, and it is fine with all of this. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 04, 18:27:47 If not, I am fairly sure that the relationship could be changed with it from adopted to biological by setting both of the adult males as parents. The game does this automatically, what I would like is for the adopted sim to look as if it were a biological offspring. Because fugly maxis genes are, well.. fugly maxis genes. <_< My tried-and-true, biologically-correct homopregnation method is: 1. Male pregnancy meshes. I use these (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,16774.0.html), they haven't been updated in a while but they still work fine for me. 2. Use pollinate command from twallan's supercomputer. After successful pollination, supercomputer also allows you to set the gender of the nascent spawn. There's also an 'Instant Baby' command in there I've never played with. 3. Congratulate your new homoparents. I have awesomemod running throughout, and it is fine with all of this. This worked great, thanks. :D Just tried it in a "test save" everything came out as should be except that my sim's outfits (all of them except nude) were the exact same, I'm assuming this can be changed via the dresser or editsim though, right? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Chandria on 2010 July 05, 11:07:07 If not, I am fairly sure that the relationship could be changed with it from adopted to biological by setting both of the adult males as parents. The game does this automatically, what I would like is for the adopted sim to look as if it were a biological offspring. Because fugly maxis genes are, well.. fugly maxis genes. <_< ... Just tried it in a "test save" everything came out as should be except that my sim's outfits (all of them except nude) were the exact same, I'm assuming this can be changed via the dresser or editsim though, right? I didn't see anything about the genetics in your original post, though you did mention looks, but again, with Twallan's supercomputer you can edit any existing adopted child in CAS to modify their looks more in line with their parents (though now that you know how to pollinate for a male/male genetic child, this probably won't be a future problem). :D Be careful with editing a pregnant Sim in CAS, sometimes the game will allow it and sometimes it won't, for me the time limit for editing is just before the first baby bump shows up, after that my game (I'm not sure about others, some can and some can't) won't let me take a pregnant Sim into CAS at all. I end up 'hoping' that my nicer maternity clothes will end up being used, but I'm mostly disappointed. ??? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 05, 11:37:15 I didn't see anything about the genetics in your original post, though you did mention looks... Well from the way "genetics" seem to work in the Sims 3, they seem to be all about looks. There was an article in the forums somewhere, stating that if a parent changed their hair color via the "Change Appearance" option on mirrors, that it would be passed down as if it were their natural hair color. Be careful with editing a pregnant Sim in CAS, sometimes the game will allow it and sometimes it won't... When you say CAS, do you mean editing through the "editsim" cheat or using the "Plan Outfit"/"Change Appearance" options? If you mean the latter, that would suck if the sims ends up with ugly randomized maternity clothing. >_< EDIT: Was looking for that article again and found this... Changes are not retroactive, so a sim that has already had its genetics "set" will STILL retain its inheritances even after you change it. But haircolor genetics effectively no longer exist and eyes are a bit of a crapshoot, too. What I'm wondering is if this applies to the "bodysnatch" changes? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: varmint on 2010 July 05, 13:21:25 Quote This worked great, thanks. :D Just tried it in a "test save" everything came out as should be except that my sim's outfits (all of them except nude) were the exact same, I'm assuming this can be changed via the dresser or editsim though, right? Sadly, if you mean the pregnant sim, no, there aren't a lot of maternity fashions available, that set of meshes only includes one or two clothing options for each category. But hey, it's better than invisible torso syndrome. As for using dressers or mirrors or any kind of edit-sim-like command on pregnant sims - I don't do it. I don't think you're supposed to. Or maybe I'm just superstitious. Basically, once they start to show, they can only use clothing that has a pregnancy mesh, which is limited even for women, it's not like they have the full range of choices. Best to just wait until the spawn is ejected, then you can restyle to your heart's content. No maternity fashion for you. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 05, 14:10:14 ...that set of meshes only includes one or two clothing options for each category. That's why I love Create-a-Style. :D Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 July 05, 14:24:11 Bodysnatch, while a nice feature to have, I kind of avoid since if you want to give a sim 'surgery' or else have them look different than anyone currently in town it requires creating a superfluous sim. This isn't TS2. The "superfluous" sim is completely consumed by the process of bodysnatching them, and no "gubbins" are left behind to clog your game up.Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Slymenstra on 2010 July 05, 16:21:56 This goes off a bit on a tangent, but I wanted to share in case some of you are unaware. There is a way to choose the outfit before they pop.
What I do to make sure my pregnant sims wear nice pregnancy outfits is I create a 2nd clothing option in CAS of each category in clothes I know have a pregnancy mesh. I make my sim wear the outfits before he/she pops. You have to dress him/her in each category in the 2nd selection. When they do pop they stay in the clothes I planned for them (as long as they have pregnancy meshes). So they have everything looking nice from their shoes to their earrings, from everyday to swimsuit. No more random ugly outfits with crazy shoes. I have gotten some nice female clothing from Poppysims. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 05, 16:33:46 What I do to make sure my pregnant sims wear nice pregnancy outfits is I create a 2nd clothing option in CAS of each category in clothes I know have a pregnancy mesh. Question is, does this work the same with the male pregnancy meshes? Or are they separate pieces of clothing? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 July 05, 17:00:37 Same deal. Note that AwesomeMod will detect a pregnant sim without a valid pregmesh as an error condition and resolve it by falconpunching so as not to have an invisible sim.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: vorpal on 2010 July 05, 17:10:50 If this is so, then I have to report a failure of this process, because I forgot to reinstall the meshes and did indeed have an invisible Sim.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 05, 17:16:54 Same deal. Note that AwesomeMod will detect a pregnant sim without a valid pregmesh as an error condition and resolve it by falconpunching so as not to have an invisible sim. That's good to know, so according to my test fambly, I do not have to worry about falconpunching. Cool. :) Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Claeric on 2010 July 05, 20:32:58 I am curious why Awesomemod feels as if it should protect people from themselves.
If you don't have male pregnancy clothes, you probably don't have males get pregnant. So why does the game ABORT babies, simply to protect stupid people from having to deal with an invisible upper body when their sim starts to show? As well, the whole "reality" thing is confusing, too. If a Female-Female pregnancy must have such harsh conformance to reality that XX + XX = XX, then why even allow it to begin with? Either allow it and let them have boys, or don't allow it at all, because allowing it and making it constrain to reality in terms of chromosomes is ridiculous, moreso than allowing it and allowing any gendered children. If you're going to follow such ridiculous rules you may as well disable gay sim marriage and cause a death to occur whenever a vehicle clips through another. I just don't understand the awkward conformity to how reality works with this one situation, it makes no sense. You're allowing something impossible and disabling something impossible at the same time, it just seems ridiculously contradictory. You've got a game where robots walk around making out with mummies and living ghosts, where women can apparently lick each other's vaginas and somehow that makes a baby, but god forbid that baby have a Y chromosome? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: varmint on 2010 July 05, 20:39:46 I am curious to see what would happen if two men were allowed to have a hideously deformed and barely-human spawn that had two y-chromosomes. It's lifespan would be incredibly short, it would have limited mobility and the only interaction it could perform would be Friendly -> Please Kill Me. Could someone get on this?
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Bottle-O-Cunt on 2010 July 05, 21:39:31 As well, the whole "reality" thing is confusing, too. If a Female-Female pregnancy must have such harsh conformance to reality that XX + XX = XX, then why even allow it to begin with? You've got a game where robots walk around making out with mummies and living ghosts, where women can apparently lick each other's vaginas and somehow that makes a baby, but god forbid that baby have a Y chromosome? OMFG! LESBOPHOBE!!111!!! Burn at stake. Immediately. That said, I must ask: Does AM give a popup message saying that that Male-Male fembryo is going to be forcefully aborted? If so, that will remind me to get some mpreg clothes before trying again. I don't know about you vole, but floaty heads are certainly not my cup of tea. About two Y chromosomes fusing, make believe that Your Almighty Pescadidness has worked in a necessary evol into such a fertilization: instant miscarriage, or failure to conceive. Adjust the chances if you can. My math fails just as much as the Vole's brain. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Madame Mim on 2010 July 05, 21:58:10 Claeric - I'm sure if Pescado could cause accidents from car clipping he would. I think it would appeal to his sence of humor and desire for consistency - but what has that got to do with disabling gay marriage. On one hand we're talking about rules of the universe and on the other we're talking about social mores (which change with the wind) - unless you mean actual marriage in a legal sence - In which case, human 'laws' change too, but more slowly.
Varmint - I'm sure that YY pregnancies would die before they are born. There are, I believe, XYY people and I can't believe I'm about to say this here but I find your statement offensive and really wish you hadn't gone there. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Claeric on 2010 July 05, 22:06:35 I was just saying that if there's such a need for these things to conform to reality- how they really work- why not do all sorts of things to make them match reality? Similar to how two sets of female chromosomes couldn't produce a Y chromosome, real world cars cannot slide through each other effortlessly, real world gay couples cannot get married (usually), etc.
Just to highlight how ridiculous it is that the female couples, despite being completely incapable of sexual reproduction because it's not possible, are... but can't have a male, because that's not possible. It's just silly. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Madame Mim on 2010 July 05, 22:42:55 But there are moves towards the ability to breed 2 women - they have arificially created sperm from female cells in labs and the likelihood is that you could, with enough technical know-how, create either genders gametes from cells of either gender. But you can not create what is not there. Women have no Y chromosomes (leaving out the people of whatever gender that end up with more chromosomes than they should).
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Claeric on 2010 July 05, 22:48:28 That's what I'm saying.
We are allowed, without going to the science lab and giving some bone marrow to be jury rigged into fake magic science sperm (not condescension, it's just such a weird process), to have two females in-game have a baby. They just go into the bed, they presumably lick and prod their women parts, and suddenly one is pregnant. They have, like, eggs fertilized by Saliva or something. With that sort of rule-of-fun going outside the constraints of the real world, what sense is there in keeping the real-world limitation of no Y chromosome coming from such a thing? If they can have a baby with no sperm, why can't they have a male with no Y Chromosome? Hell, make it so females can't have a baby until one of them has sex with a man. Pretend she gets some of his sperm on her tongue and it accidentally impregnates the other, I don't know. I am just not understanding the pick-and-choose restrictions. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: jezzer on 2010 July 05, 23:21:14 Quote You've got a game where robots walk around making out with mummies and living ghosts, where women can apparently lick each other's vaginas Quote They just go into the bed, they presumably lick and prod their women parts, and suddenly one is pregnant. They have, like, eggs fertilized by Saliva or something. Quote Pretend she gets some of his sperm on her tongue and it accidentally impregnates the other, I don't know. Fixated much? It's hard to read the post when it's being drowned out by the sound of the poster's tear-stained fapping. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: rohina on 2010 July 05, 23:24:06 jermy, everyone knows that male virgins FEAR the VAG. And what could possibly exemplify that fear more than having to touch it with your mouth? COOTIES!
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Claeric on 2010 July 05, 23:33:17 Fixated? FAPPING?
Please. My sim towns are sausage fests. They eat nothing but hot dogs and the theater is proud home to most of the conceptions in town. Female babies are regularly cast away off the shores of Fire Island and goggles are required apparel on the beach. They are the world's biggest users of silicone, body glitter, and astroglide. Believe me. If anything, I'm doing the opposite of fapping when writing those posts. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III on 2010 July 05, 23:45:48 Soooooo, Claeric's new combat operandi is Lv. 49 "I can't be obsessed with lesbians, because I'm gay"? Heh. I am suddenly reminded of Whine. Whatever happened to Whine, anyway? I think he souped when I stole Ellatrue's channel, didn't he? Man, that was all hilarious. Although, I must say I'm surprised to find that Claeric has made himself the new Whine - I was rather expecting Jeromycraig to fill that role. In fact, I still hold suspicious that Jeromycraig is in fact the *old* Whine. But that's another story.
Anyway, there's nothing technically keeping you from fertilising an egg with another egg, although you'd have to do some work to convince them to fuse. A polar body might work better, if you could get it to not immediately an hero. Really, the only reasons it can't happen in nature are the obvious physical difficulties. However, with no Y chromosome, there'd still be no way to have a male child. Claeric's argument is invalid. On the other hand, male pregnancy is impossible, short of some sort of artificial womb, and you can't fertilise a sperm cell (even if you could talk it into merging, they don't have enough celluar mechanisms to survive long enough to gestate, I'm afraid) anyway. On the other other hand, it's not incredibly different to engineer the necessary components - there's nothing particularly special about an egg or sperm cell that can't be emulated in a lab, and the chromosomes can be arranged in a variety of ways (popular suggestions include duplicating a male's X chromosome, and building a pseudo-Y out of one of a woman's Xs and DNA from a close male relative)... but these are not things you can do out of the comfort of your own home, usually, so you'd have to use the science building. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Claeric on 2010 July 05, 23:54:22 Ok, look. Here is the point.
-Women getting in bed, fooling around, and getting pregnant -Two sets of X chromosomes being unable to produce something with a Y chromosome Both of these are impossible, but one is unquestionably allowed. And I don't understand why things like this are pick-and-choose in regards to whether they have to conform to real world limits or not. Is this really so hard? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Jeeves on 2010 July 05, 23:55:38 This part kind of pissed me off.
real world gay couples cannot get married Show your work. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Grimma on 2010 July 06, 00:15:49 I am curious why Awesomemod feels as if it should protect people from themselves. If you don't have male pregnancy clothes, you probably don't have males get pregnant. So why does the game ABORT babies, simply to protect stupid people from having to deal with an invisible upper body when their sim starts to show? WTF? Adding to Jeeves's very legitimate complaint, what's up with this shit? Repeat after me, Shouty: THEY AREN'T BABIES. They are pixels of data. And Mim had very obligingly explained how it can be that 2 women CAN indeed, in reality, get pregnant - and then it would be impossible to have a male baby. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Also, doubleWTF at the fact that just because 2 women in ShoutyVoleiverse cannot have a babby, and if they can they cannot have a MALE babby, suddenly gay marriage should be scrapped? Dude, you have some serious issues. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: jezzer on 2010 July 06, 00:20:43 Soooooo, Claeric's new combat operandi is Lv. 49 "I can't be obsessed with lesbians, because I'm gay"? Heh. I am suddenly reminded of Whine. Whatever happened to Whine, anyway? I think he souped when I stole Ellatrue's channel, didn't he? Man, that was all hilarious. Although, I must say I'm surprised to find that Claeric has made himself the new Whine - I was rather expecting Jeromycraig to fill that role. In fact, I still hold suspicious that Jeromycraig is in fact the *old* Whine. But that's another story. Wow. It's good to know that even in the midst of bringing a thread to a screeching halt with probable copypasta, I'm apparently never far from your thoughts. I got up and closed the blinds.Anyway, there's nothing technically blah blah biddy blah I IS SMART LISTEN TO MAH LEARNINGS, MAH TEALDEER BRINGS ALL THE BOYS TO THE YARD! Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: varmint on 2010 July 06, 00:23:40 Fixated? FAPPING? Please. My sim towns are sausage fests. They eat nothing but hot dogs and the theater is proud home to most of the conceptions in town. Female babies are regularly cast away off the shores of Fire Island and goggles are required apparel on the beach. They are the world's biggest users of silicone, body glitter, and astroglide. Believe me. If anything, I'm doing the opposite of fapping when writing those posts. Gotcha. You're not obsessed with lesbians, you're just a narcissistic gay misogynist. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: rohina on 2010 July 06, 00:31:27 Oh noes, varmint, gays can't be sexist. Don't you remember ste and his big long treatise on why it was okay for him to have sex before marriage but not his sister?
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Claeric on 2010 July 06, 01:11:41 Can someone just fucking answer me?
Why are some things horrible and must be squashed because they aren't possible, but other impossible things are specifically made possible? What determines what should be squashed and what shouldn't? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: jezzer on 2010 July 06, 01:19:43 What determines what should be squashed and what shouldn't? It's not as much fun when it's offered to me on a silver platter like that.Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: varmint on 2010 July 06, 01:32:27 What determines what should be squashed and what shouldn't? Pescado. Who you seem to think will change his mind about some of these squashings if you kermitflail passionately all over the forums. Whose mod you are enjoying for free. How's all that working out for you? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Assmitten on 2010 July 06, 01:47:53 is probably why he souped after I "betrayed" him and yoinked the channel. Which actually just gave me a massive retroactive schadenfreude boost. The idiot was probably crying emo tears and cutting for weeks. :D (http://i46.tinypic.com/w7y7t0.jpg) REMEMBER THAT ONE TIME? THAT WAS AWESOME! Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Rhayden on 2010 July 06, 01:51:54 Ok, look. Here is the point. Because the first one's not entirely impossible. I JUST SAID THAT. FFS, do you even read? You are just so stupid, I swear.-Women getting in bed, fooling around, and getting pregnant -Two sets of X chromosomes being unable to produce something with a Y chromosome Both of these are impossible, but one is unquestionably allowed. And I don't understand why things like this are pick-and-choose in regards to whether they have to conform to real world limits or not. Is this really so hard? Oh, and, Jenny Craig, the thing is, you TOTALLY ARE the new Whine. Or possibly the old one. So yes, whenever the topic is Whine you're not going to be far from my thoughts, because it is my nature to create permanent mental links between concepts, and the two of you share one of them. Also, since you're kind of newish and don't remember Whine, I should tell you that he was one of Ellatrue's suitors, except he was gay and really creepily camp (if you're not already aware, I have a natural tendency to despise anyone who fits the stereotypes of a group to which that person belongs, so I hate, for example, weak-willed women, "gangsta" urban kids [doubly so if they are of African descent, because that is seriously the worst stereotype evar], and camp gay men. Which you are, which is the main reason I hate you so much. Well, that and you're a stupid ESFJ. Like Zazazu and Marco Meza. Pathetic.). At the time, due to both rohina's plans and some of my own, I was sitting in #ellatrue for an extended duration, so I was even more subject to Whine than most people, and he was ALSO and EF (he claimed ENFP, but he acted like an ESFJ) and really fucking annoying, spamming both channels with so much stupid shit that everyone quickly hated him. He was obnoxious, but the thing that made me hate him most is that, against all reason, he apparently liked me, and constantly went out of his way to agree with me and always acted like we were BFFs when the whole time I just wanted to BASH HIS MOTHERFUCKING HEAD IN. Which, on closer examination, is probably why he souped after I "betrayed" him and yoinked the channel. Which actually just gave me a massive retroactive schadenfreude boost. The idiot was probably crying emo tears and cutting for weeks. :D Anyway, yeah, you remind me of him, which makes me unable to not hate you, since he was one of the few people in #grah who I ever actually hated more than just a mere vague sense of dislike, which is all most people (including, much to your relief I'm sure, you) get. Acting like you like me is the surest way to get me to hate you, because I find Fliness mostly tolerable, if incredibly stupid, until it's directed at me. On the other hand, even without the Whine-connection, you're pretty annoying in your own right, due to aforementioned ESFJness. ESFJs are just eminently hateable like that. jeromy is nothing like Whine, you just seem to hate gay men fairly frequently. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: jezzer on 2010 July 06, 01:56:40 Oh, and, Jenny Craig, the thing is, you TOTALLY ARE blah blah blah blee blee blee bloo bloo bloo weeping vagina noises. This word "camp": I do not think it means what you think it means.Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Rhayden on 2010 July 06, 02:31:05 I haven't seen jeromy act anything like the way you just described, therefore I must conclude that it's all in your head.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Claeric on 2010 July 06, 02:31:17 Please learn to use paragraphs.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: rohina on 2010 July 06, 02:34:42 Would someone please buy the saltfucker an LJ, so he has somewhere to put these emo rants about how he isn't gay, oh please, jermy take me to the prom?
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: jezzer on 2010 July 06, 02:34:58 When I am using it in that context, it means that you act ridiculously effeminate, or at least what you seem to yadda yadda trixie loves the sound of his own voice inside his head Thanks, this was GRATE. That's an impressive amount of detail in your fevered imaginings for someone who isn't obsessed and creepy. Preciousssssssssssss... my precioussssssss... Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Surelyfunke on 2010 July 06, 02:36:04 Wonderful display of closeted homosexuality!
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III on 2010 July 06, 02:42:35 Would someone please but the saltfucker an LJ, so he has somewhere to put these emo rants about how he isn't gay, oh please, jermy take me to the prom? Heh. Those are for people who think they have something interesting to say. I'm under no illusions about the interestingness of my words, nor do I feel any particular compulsion to type them; I'm mostly just doing it because it's funny to watch the rest of you. Which it is.Anyway, it's firmly established that I maintain that there is no such thing as homosexuality. Now, before you go cry "homophobia", don't forget that I don't believe that there's such a thing as heterosexuality, either. I've been pretty well-established as a proponent of the theory of innate bisexuality since... well, at least since Whine was here, actually, because his really hilariously disgusted reaction to the notion that he might ever be willing to fuck, or apparently even touch, a woman was what made me decide that Shouty Vole was the new Whine when he reacted the same way. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Claeric on 2010 July 06, 02:45:42 Again, please learn to use paragraphs. How can you have over 1500 posts and still be posting in bricks and walls? Nobody has taken issue with that?
I don't believe that there's such a thing as heterosexuality, either. I've been pretty well-established as a proponent of the theory of innate bisexuality So what you're saying is "I've never heard of the Kinsey scale but I'm pretty sure I'm a super revolutionary badass for thinking that everyone is innately bisexual in a way." Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: rohina on 2010 July 06, 02:51:10 Duh, we've ALL heard of the Kinsey scale ever since jordi told us he was 100% heterosexual.
Carry on with Vole v Weasel, the Engayening, though. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III on 2010 July 06, 02:52:00 Again, please learn to use paragraphs. How can you have over 1500 posts and still be posting in bricks and walls? Nobody has taken issue with that? Paragraphs are for the weak. TEXTWALL FTW!I don't believe that there's such a thing as heterosexuality, either. I've been pretty well-established as a proponent of the theory of innate bisexuality So what you're saying is "I've never heard of the Kinsey scale but I'm pretty sure I'm a super revolutionary badass for thinking that everyone is innately bisexual in a way." And I have, in fact, heard of the Kinsey scale, and I've BROUGHT IT UP in the past. It's pretty much one of the basic tenets of said theory. Nowhere did I say that I thought I was some kind of "super revolutionary badass" for thinking it - as a matter of fact, I am constantly surprised by people who don't believe it, because it seems so obvious. There are, for example, people who don't believe in evolution, but that doesn't make the people who do "super revolutionary badasses". It didn't even do that when the theory was new. It just makes them right. Then again, this is something that I would not expect an F such as yourself to understand. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 July 06, 02:54:25 We are allowed, without going to the science lab and giving some bone marrow to be jury rigged into fake magic science sperm (not condescension, it's just such a weird process), to have two females in-game have a baby. Actually, you aren't, as the AwesomeMod only except same-sex pollination attempts as valid when the parties involved are in a ScienceWorks.Varmint - I'm sure that YY pregnancies would die before they are born. There are, I believe, XYY people and I can't believe I'm about to say this here but I find your statement offensive and really wish you hadn't gone there. Because sims with gross chromosomal anomalies are not in the game, although if I can find a way to PUT them in the game, I will, sims are assumed to be mostly-normal XX and XY people. And yes, the non-viability of YYs is reflected in the results of what happens if you pollinate male-male: The gender ratio default, instead of 1:1 M:F, becomes 2:1, because in such a combination, you have a 50% chance of an XY, a 25% of an XX, and a 25% of a YY...which would immediately die, thus reducing it to 2:1.Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Motoki on 2010 July 06, 03:11:04 Actually, you aren't, as the AwesomeMod only except same-sex pollination attempts as valid when the parties involved are in a ScienceWorks. Technically it only theoretically accepts same-sex pollination in the ScienceWorks since Awesomemod itself does not enable the action to actually do such pollinating. It only allows for it if an additional mod is in place that enables it and to my knowledge no such mod has been created. However, there are mods such as Twallan's pollinator that bypass Awesomemod's ban on same sex pollination outside of the ScienceWorks and provide a workaround to still allow it to take place even with Awesomemod running. Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: witch on 2010 July 06, 04:00:40 No, I scoured the sims forums yesterday looking for the whole samesex thing at the lab, no go. So I installed Twallan's PC, sent my girls to the lab and had them woohoo (they got caught), then sent them home and used the pollinator. Sadface.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 July 06, 07:42:26 If this is so, then I have to report a failure of this process, because I forgot to reinstall the meshes and did indeed have an invisible Sim. The fix is in the next version.Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 06, 09:17:17 And I also think that there seems to be something in the game itself that prevents the case of XX during a male pregnancy. So far I've had, I think, 7 male pregnancies and they all produced boys, even if the parturient was fed melons and solely melons during the whole phase of pregnancy. The sim in my test save had a girl on the first try, and I didn't eat/do anything to change the baby's gender. EDIT to avoid double-posting: Extremely stupid and utterly worthless and almost impressively boring. I suspect, although I may be wrong, that you think it'll get you attention, but the fact is that it makes you less worthy of attention, because why would anyone want to bother with someone whose whole existence seems to be singularly focussed on their sexual orientation? ... Just don't be surprised when someone doesn't care to pay any attention to your shallow blandness. Boring enough to make you rant non-stop... <_< Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: jezzer on 2010 July 06, 14:21:13 Extremely stupid and utterly worthless and almost impressively boring. I suspect, although I may be wrong, that you think it'll get you attention, but the fact is that it makes you less worthy of attention, because why would anyone want to bother with someone whose whole existence seems to be singularly focussed on their sexual orientation? ... Just don't be surprised when someone doesn't care to pay any attention to your shallow blandness. Boring enough to make you rant non-stop... <_< Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III on 2010 July 06, 15:51:53 Of course. I always do that. Haven't you been paying attention? Lack of immediate interest is no reason not to exploit something for potential future amusement.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: rohina on 2010 July 06, 17:02:47 Of course. I always do that. Haven't you been paying attention? Lack of immediate interest is no reason not to exploit something for potential future amusement. No one is buying this particular line of bullshit you are peddling. Maybe you should try something else? Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III on 2010 July 06, 17:06:29 No one is buying this particular line of bullshit you are peddling. Maybe you should try something else? Yes, yes, except that that particular line is true, and trying something else would entail finding a suitable lie, which is just too much effort to go to for something which I, as established, don't particularly care about. Nice try, though.Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: jezzer on 2010 July 06, 20:44:34 I swear, that weasel on his avatar needs to be coming out of Boobzilla's ass, because he's sounding just like her.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III on 2010 July 06, 20:53:15 Oh, so you've finally noticed that? Man, you're pretty dense. On the other hand, I was kind of hoping you wouldn't notice, because I was looking forward to claiming to be the sock of an established member for the Boob Trifecta. Ah, well, perhaps another time.
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Spaz on 2010 July 06, 20:58:19 Wow, and all this time I thought that was a weasel in a ball gown! ::)
Title: Re: Tutorial: Making Adopted Children Look Biological Post by: Milhouse Trixibelle Saltfucker III on 2010 July 06, 21:26:26 Ummm... when was the last ball gown you've seen with bleeding bite marks in? Wait, no, don't answer that. I don't want to know.
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