Title: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: minafairbrook on 2010 March 29, 23:57:35 I've searched this site's for a week or so trying to find an answer or solution for whats going on lately. I have the recent, I believe test version of awesomemod since the last patch and got it to run and not give me an error message at the beginning. Before that began everything was all good, and I liked the autosave feature and little config I made for the mod, everything worked great. All of a sudden my game would crash in a second to the desktop, no error message, no lag, nothing to explain it. I tried everything from deleting and re-installing awesomemod. Ive also used the modthesims framework helper, and have a "dashboard" thingy that shows if any of my mods/packages conflict.
Ive tried everything from changing the time which the auto save occurs to disabling it see if maybe the custom options i had chose were causing some kind of conflict. when i disabled that, it still happens. I pretty much do a save every 10 minutes or so just to be safe. I cant really say how far in between the crashes happen, possibly every 20 to 40 minutes if I dont save every 10 as odd as that sounds. possibly coincidence. Im still trying to browse through all the threads here for an answer, but Im having no luck. Sorry to have to ask, I know its a pain in the ass. :P Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 March 30, 00:31:50 I haven't seen anything that would trigger a random crash to desktop, particularly as relatively little actually CHANGED in the patch, and many things could possibly be the cause of your crashing. However, I will keep this issue in mind if I see anything that looks like it.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: minafairbrook on 2010 March 30, 00:38:19 Ah, alright. Thanks for responding. I also dont have any other mods (just like clothes and furnishing) . I'll try to look for another solution. Maybe remove Awesomemod and see if it still happens. I mean, considering it did work just fine for a while. Hell, maybe even re-install the game if it persists. I have a gaming pc that runs the game itself really well, so I ruled that out. I figured it may be your mod since it hadnt happened prior to using it for a bit. Guess I was wrong. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 April 04, 21:52:51 Pescado it does happen even without mods. And, has been reported several times throughout EA Forums.
Cause is Windows 7 64 bit. Mina let me guess you have Windows 7 64 bit. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: The_Goddess on 2010 April 05, 08:42:35 Pescado it does happen even without mods. And, has been reported several times throughout EA Forums. Cause is Windows 7 64 bit. Mina let me guess you have Windows 7 64 bit. I'm running Windows 7 64bit. I fail to see how that could be the cause of game crashes. If it were, why am I and many others not experiencing this too? If we are looking for common denominators here, I think we need to dig a bit lower. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: spaceface on 2010 April 05, 09:33:36 I am having a random crash to desktop and I suspect it is either hardware or Windows. I am trying various configurations of hardware at the moment, as I have just put in a new graphics card and extra RAMS.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: The_Goddess on 2010 April 05, 10:46:35 I would believe the graphics card to be the culprit, before I would blame Windows. I had to replace one recently. I had crashes all over the place, and not just with Sims, then the card went completely haywire and gave me white screen. New card, no problems. Keep in mind, my card was defective and giving me grief all over the place. Checking driver updates and compatibility is always a good place to start.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 April 05, 11:19:47 I am running Windows 7 64-Bit, and while I have had the occasional CTD, I also had random CTD while using Vista and even with TS2 running on XP. I can go weeks without a problem, then it might happen a couple of times in one night, then not again for weeks, even months.
I tend to agree with Goddess and tngrspacecadet, I would be blaming other factors before labeling Windows 7 64-Bit as the culprit, not enough users complaining about CTD's to narrow it down yet. I could also simply be EA game instability which is simply more evident and prone to problems on certain systems. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: gelfling on 2010 April 05, 19:56:56 I use Windows 7 x64 and do not experience any random crashes to desktop. I applied the latest patch for TS3 on Thursday and since then it will almost always crash to desktop if I want to save my game. No .bad file is produced and no .backup file is made; it pretends to save for about 5 seconds before disappearing without a trace. I have TS3, WA and HELS, a few mods, numerous patterns and a few custom content objects. I have checked for updates for all of these and suspect that one of these will need to be removed at least until the culprit has been updated to be compatible with the latest patch.
Windows 7 x64 is stable for the most part even when it comes to running TS3. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: MistyBlue on 2010 April 06, 04:56:29 I'm having the crash. It happened 4 times today. I was building a lot and I zoomed out to see it and it CTD, then I went back in, built the damn thing again, zoomed out and it did it again. Thankfully I was smart enough to save frequently. The last 2 times it happened was when I was about to take pictures of the lot, so again, zooming.
I am running a Win7 x64 laptop, 8GB RAM, with a supported video card. I have WA And HELS installed, the test version of AM, and no other mods. This is the first time I have experienced this type of crash. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 April 06, 10:09:19 Those crashing I was on countless hours with customer support from Nvidia and EA. We made sure I have no more crashes. With SIMS 3 it was a combinition of Windows 7 64 bit and the Nvidia GeForce card drivers. There is a new update for Nvidia drivers so update. No more problems. It was a fan problem which caused SIMS 3 to crash.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 April 06, 10:51:56 Fan problem? You mean "not constantly running the fan at FULL SPEED", eh?
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 April 06, 12:52:17 Sounds like the same issue coconnor mentioned here: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,18219.0.html about a month ago.
Not quite sure why Windows 7 64-Bit can be blamed for bad drivers from Nvidia, but maybe I am missing something. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 April 06, 14:36:01 It is a complexity of things.
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edi 0821e5c0 |<fc>b4 d7 00 39 81 60 02 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | ....9.`......... | 0821e5d0 | f4 b4 d7 00 74 69 23 08 74 00 1f 2a d0 b4 d7 00 | ....ti#.t..*.... | [Extra] ScriptHeap: 71.54MB/75.96MB (12); 9.21MB Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: The_Goddess on 2010 April 06, 18:36:19 Don't confuse the 12s. We already knew that Nvidia has driver issues. http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,17051.0.html http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,17536.0.html If you are still using Nvidia, expect an occasional problem. My advice… Go Shopping! Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: lordrichter on 2010 April 06, 19:51:56 Sometimes people who are running Windows 7 x64 run into problems with games, including Sims 3, because they are not large address aware and the computer has 4GB or more RAM. Sometimes setting the executable to be large address aware can fix random CTDs.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 April 07, 00:16:37 http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php
1) Download and install CFF Explorer (http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php) 2) Run the program, click the folder icon or go to FILE >> OPEN and browse your PC for the Sims 3 exe (TS3.exe) usually found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin Make a backup of your original exe just incase something goes wrong. 3) Click on File Header at the left, find characteristics at the right and click the "Click here" blue button. 4) Tick "App can handle >2GB address space 5) Ok that and save by clicking the disk icon or going to FILE >> SAVE. Overwrite the file when it asks you to. This fixed the problem of me crashing. Thanks to Gohan2091 from Mod the Sims on spotting the problem. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: mel on 2010 April 10, 19:38:16 the ntcore tricks didn't worked for me.... (I tried with ts3.exe as well as all the main exe in the 2 other extension bin folder, just in case.)
Win7 64 bits 9gb ram Nvidia (bbbooo !!! I guess) GeForce GTX260 (with latest driver) processor i7 920@2.67 GHz Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Rainbow_Brite on 2010 April 12, 00:21:57 I've searched this site's for a week or so trying to find an answer or solution for whats going on lately. I have the recent, I believe test version of awesomemod since the last patch and got it to run and not give me an error message at the beginning. Before that began everything was all good, and I liked the autosave feature and little config I made for the mod, everything worked great. All of a sudden my game would crash in a second to the desktop, no error message, no lag, nothing to explain it. I tried everything from deleting and re-installing awesomemod. Ive also used the modthesims framework helper, and have a "dashboard" thingy that shows if any of my mods/packages conflict. Ive tried everything from changing the time which the auto save occurs to disabling it see if maybe the custom options i had chose were causing some kind of conflict. when i disabled that, it still happens. I pretty much do a save every 10 minutes or so just to be safe. I cant really say how far in between the crashes happen, possibly every 20 to 40 minutes if I dont save every 10 as odd as that sounds. possibly coincidence. Im still trying to browse through all the threads here for an answer, but Im having no luck. Sorry to have to ask, I know its a pain in the ass. :P I was also having this issue with my game and it would continuously crash. It didn't matter if I played for 2 hours or 30 min, it would would still crash straight to my desktop. I first made sure that all of my drivers were up to date but that didn't keep the game from crashing. I looked around different forums for about a week, and I found a solution that seems to have helped a lot of people with their games. The tutorials that I was reading were all over the place and for different OS's, so I combined all of the information and posted it in a tutorial. You can find it here: http://ts3.tscexchange.com/index.php?topic=1889.0 It seems that the game was having issues with the DEP. I'm not a computer tech, so I was nervous to try it, but since I have edited the permissions in the DEP my game has been crash free. I also found this method on the TS3 forums under the technical help. Doing this seems to be touch and go since it will work for some people and not others but it's worth it try. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 April 12, 17:26:15 Mel try using "C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3 High-End Loft Stuff\Game\Bin\TS3SP01.exe" and create a shortcut.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Claeric on 2010 April 12, 17:46:05 The NTcore thingy always gives my game serious stutter issues. Not sure why.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: spaceface on 2010 April 12, 21:10:38 I have done everything else and still have occasional crashes. Trying Rainbow Brite's suggestion now.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 April 13, 07:59:10 Claeric all you have to do is use it on the ts3sp01.exe do not use game launcher .exe
;D And do not click anything else but the 2GB. And, save. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: minafairbrook on 2010 April 16, 20:42:52 I havent played since I made this post.
Yes. I have 7 and 64 bit. I also have an ATI video card. All my shit is way up to date. The game never used to crash. I guess I wont bother since there doesnt seem to be a solution. *sigh* Why the hell did they invent 64 bit if games arent compatible with it, haha. The same bullshit happens with EverQuest 2 (5 year veteran) I would still be playing but it always goddamn crashes. It seems that 64 bit was the problem. Im going to look into finding out if I can go to 32 bit. :'( By the way, I apologize for assuming your mod was the problem. Same crap happened with EQ2- hell for MONTHS I played the game perfectly, and then all of a sudden itd crash daily all the time and I had to give it up. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: soozelwoozel on 2010 April 16, 21:21:06 *sooze adblocks Rainbowbrite's annoying sig. Where do you think we are, boolprop?
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: eyme on 2010 April 18, 06:25:07 Well, now I'm just going to wait until the real AM comes out than the tester version because there is no way in fuck I'm blaming it on my Windows 7 64-bit @ 2.20GHZ 4.0GB RAM LOL .
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Silent Dreamer on 2010 April 18, 07:00:13 Well, now I'm just going to wait until the real AM comes out than the tester version because there is no way in fuck I'm blaming it on my Windows 7 64-bit @ 2.20GHZ 4.0GB RAM LOL . Erm, it is out. FOJ just neglected to change the post. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: eyme on 2010 April 18, 07:50:41 Erm, it is out. FOJ just neglected to change the post. Well, I still win. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 April 18, 08:41:19 Erm, it is out. FOJ just neglected to change the post. Well, I still win. Win what? Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: eyme on 2010 April 18, 08:54:57 Win what? I win the conversation even though he/she made me look like a dumb ass, it is called sarcasm.Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 April 18, 23:20:34 Eyme you have 4GB you should not experience a crash it is those with over 4GB of memory.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: lordrichter on 2010 April 19, 02:09:44 I would suggest that anyone running 64bit Windows with more than 3GB of RAM go ahead and set the IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE flag in the application, particularly if they are having a CTD problem.
Sims 3 does not seem to use more than 2GB of RAM, whether that flag is set or not, but setting it does not do harm and may correct compatibility issues because Windows 64bit handles memory above 3GB differently than Windows 32bit. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: eyme on 2010 April 19, 03:27:18 Eyme you have 4GB you should not experience a crash it is those with over 4GB of memory. Well, I do have problems! I think it was a bug in the AM because when I deleted it, my computer started working. I think I'll just wait until they update AM again and fix the bugs.I would suggest that anyone running 64bit Windows with more than 3GB of RAM go ahead and set the IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE flag in the application, particularly if they are having a CTD problem. Okay, I'll try that.Sims 3 does not seem to use more than 2GB of RAM, whether that flag is set or not, but setting it does not do harm and may correct compatibility issues because Windows 64bit handles memory above 3GB differently than Windows 32bit. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 April 20, 01:46:28 Eyme it is not AM causing the crash it is the game itself. I played every EA Game and ONLY SIMS 3 crashes.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Miao on 2010 April 22, 16:24:28 I've experienced odd crashes when placing fireplaces after the new patch. It throws an "ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x00000010" exception that apparently also occurs with Spore, according to Google searches.
It's hard to describe what caused this crash, because it happens with only one fireplace (the "Washington" one), and only on one spot in my Sims' house, but doesn't always crash the first time I place it. I used the last fact to my advantage and circumvented the problem, but I'm worried about deeper problems in my game. I do decrapify regularly, by the way. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Menaceman on 2010 April 26, 21:48:43 Has anybody come across the game locking up randomly when using the speed keys? Since I updated to the newest AM the game will occassionally freeze when I switch between speeds which then forces me to shut down my game from Task Manager. The rest of my computer is fine, it's not like my whole machine locks up, just the game.
Trees and plants still sway in the breeze and visual effects such as stink lines still animate but the game and time do not progress and nothing can be clicked on. I'm going to redownload AM to make sure I really do have the latest version but I thought I'd just ask in the mean time. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Solowren on 2010 April 26, 22:02:51 Has anybody come across the game locking up randomly when using the speed keys? Since I updated to the newest AM the game will occassionally freeze when I switch between speeds which then forces me to shut down my game from Task Manager. The rest of my computer is fine, it's not like my whole machine locks up, just the game. Trees and plants still sway in the breeze and visual effects such as stink lines still animate but the game and time do not progress and nothing can be clicked on. I'm going to redownload AM to make sure I really do have the latest version but I thought I'd just ask in the mean time. That has happened to me a few times. It can usually be resolved by just waiting it out. I've come to assume it's just the game loading something. Only twice have I given up waiting it out and forced it to quit. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Naples on 2010 April 26, 22:47:37 Has anybody come across the game locking up randomly when using the speed keys? Since I updated to the newest AM the game will occassionally freeze when I switch between speeds which then forces me to shut down my game from Task Manager. The rest of my computer is fine, it's not like my whole machine locks up, just the game. Trees and plants still sway in the breeze and visual effects such as stink lines still animate but the game and time do not progress and nothing can be clicked on. I'm going to redownload AM to make sure I really do have the latest version but I thought I'd just ask in the mean time. That has happened to me a few times. It can usually be resolved by just waiting it out. I've come to assume it's just the game loading something. Only twice have I given up waiting it out and forced it to quit. The same thing has been happening to me as well. Only a few times has it unfroze by it's self. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Magwitch on 2010 April 27, 09:01:46 I also occasionally get the random freezing (with animations and sounds carrying on). When this happens, I usually have to quit the game via the task manager. I'm not sure the issue is AwesomeMod related, though. Some people think it's to do with a sim getting stuck somewhere in the neighbourhood.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Freezerburn on 2010 April 27, 10:02:46 I also occasionally get the random freezing (with animations and sounds carrying on). When this happens, I usually have to quit the game via the task manager. I'm not sure the issue is AwesomeMod related, though. Some people think it's to do with a sim getting stuck somewhere in the neighbourhood. Yea, me too. This never happened to me before I installed the test AM. It really pissed me off to play for about three hours and suddenly I need to shut it using Task Manager. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 April 27, 10:54:37 People have reported this without AwesomeMod, so it's at least partly EA-induced.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: lordrichter on 2010 April 27, 14:45:37 I also occasionally get the random freezing (with animations and sounds carrying on). When this happens, I usually have to quit the game via the task manager. I'm not sure the issue is AwesomeMod related, though. Some people think it's to do with a sim getting stuck somewhere in the neighbourhood. I am one of the ones who thinks it is because a Sim gets stuck somewhere trying to perform a task that cannot be completed. Pausing the game from the keyboard, which could take some time, and then finding the offending Sim and doing a resetsim, or canceling the action, has fixed this whenever I have seen it. It can be time consuming to fix if the Sim is not part of the active household. Much easier to exit and enter from a prior save and hope conditions do not repeat. It is usually a routing fail or a key object locked or in use that causes the problem, coupled with a rapidly repeating desire to perform the failing action. In some cases, I have not been able to identify the Sim in trouble to see what they are doing. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: spaceface on 2010 April 27, 16:55:18 I have now used the SFF Explorer to increase RAM use as well as the DEP thing that Rainbow Brite linked to. I still have crashes to desktop, only much less frequently.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: rhodaloo on 2010 April 27, 18:28:55 My personal computer geek did the DEP thing for me, but I'm still having the random crashes to desktop. It seems to happen less frequently when start my game through the rebooter. The only drawback to that is the game is in full screen mode, not the windowed mode.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Jasumi on 2010 April 27, 20:06:56 I also occasionally get the random freezing (with animations and sounds carrying on). When this happens, I usually have to quit the game via the task manager. I'm not sure the issue is AwesomeMod related, though. Some people think it's to do with a sim getting stuck somewhere in the neighbourhood. I am one of the ones who thinks it is because a Sim gets stuck somewhere trying to perform a task that cannot be completed. Pausing the game from the keyboard, which could take some time, and then finding the offending Sim and doing a resetsim, or canceling the action, has fixed this whenever I have seen it. It can be time consuming to fix if the Sim is not part of the active household. Much easier to exit and enter from a prior save and hope conditions do not repeat. It is usually a routing fail or a key object locked or in use that causes the problem, coupled with a rapidly repeating desire to perform the failing action. In some cases, I have not been able to identify the Sim in trouble to see what they are doing. If you're having difficulty locating the offending sim, you could also use the "reset world" cheat. It will immediately fix your issue, but it will also reset all activity in the neighborhood. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: lordrichter on 2010 April 27, 20:24:35 I think that resetting the world is an extreme measure. A measure taken right before, if not after, deleting the save game and starting over.
However, my opinion is simply the distrust of anything as major as resetting the world. How can you tell if everything is OK after the reset? Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Rainbow_Brite on 2010 April 28, 02:47:26 http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php 1) Download and install CFF Explorer (http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php) 2) Run the program, click the folder icon or go to FILE >> OPEN and browse your PC for the Sims 3 exe (TS3.exe) usually found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin Make a backup of your original exe just incase something goes wrong. 3) Click on File Header at the left, find characteristics at the right and click the "Click here" blue button. 4) Tick "App can handle >2GB address space 5) Ok that and save by clicking the disk icon or going to FILE >> SAVE. Overwrite the file when it asks you to. This fixed the problem of me crashing. Thanks to Gohan2091 from Mod the Sims on spotting the problem. I followed these directions step-by-step for the base game. Do I also need to do this with the WA and HELS .exe files? I noticed that my graphics card had an update so I thought that the new crashes that were occurring were due to an outdated driver. Even after I updated the driver, I'm still experiencing crashes but they are far less frequent. I thought changing the settings in the DEP fixed my game because after I made those changes, I didn't have any crashes for quite some time. I'm hoping this method will solve my problem completely. I am also running the 3booter and FPS_Limiter if that matters. When I changed the settings for the DEP, I also included those files along with TS3, WA and HELS .exe files. I don't know if it is/was necessary to do so, but I just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss anything. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: lordrichter on 2010 April 28, 13:04:13 Do I also need to do this with the WA and HELS .exe files? Yes. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Tangie on 2010 April 29, 00:07:17 I think that resetting the world is an extreme measure. A measure taken right before, if not after, deleting the save game and starting over. However, my opinion is simply the distrust of anything as major as resetting the world. How can you tell if everything is OK after the reset? I'm playing another user created world and just experienced my game freezing 3 times after a few minutes of play, and having to end the game via task manager on Sunday (I think it was Sunday, whatever). It would consistently hang up whether or not I gave the sims commands or not. So after the third time I restarted I paused and went to edit town view, then entered "radar all" in the console, but there was just no way I was going to go around looking at every single sim in my 'hood to see if I could find who was stuck in some action that couldn't be completed. I had a whole lot of sims walking and driving here and there and everywhere. No way, way too time consuming! So I entered "reset world" in the console. It functions the same way as "reset <sim name>, meaning all it seems to do is that it magically transports everyone home. The only price I paid was that my sim would have gotten a promotion at work, but since I had to do this 30 minutes before the end of his shift, he immediately left work to go home (he was the only sim that wasn't magically transported there) and did not get promoted. He got promoted the next day though, of course. So in my experience nothing drastic happens to your game. I was able to play it without problems of any kind after doing this. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: lordrichter on 2010 April 29, 00:39:07 Well, for starters, any Sim in transit somewhere or hiding in a rabbit hole is unlikely to be a problem, so you can ignore them. Likewise, any Sim in a house that you are not playing (where none are running in high res) is unlikely to be a problem.
Start by checking your own Sims and any Sims in other households that might be running Supreme Commander, then check all the Sims out and about in the world on foot in the vicinity of your active Sims. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Tangie on 2010 April 29, 22:25:34 If you set the AM config file to allow inactive skill gains, then Supreme Commander will give inactives commands to work on skills without you manually doing it yourself.
In another custom world I was playing a few weeks ago, I only had about a half a dozen sims in it so it was a lot easier to find the problem sim. The game was freezing - running - freezing so I was able to press the pause button like you mentioned in another thread and eventually the game would unfreeze and pause, which allowed me to go to edit town to locate the problem sim. This freezing happened several times; one time it seems that a sim was stuck at a WA register even though SC was instructing the sim to skill painting. On another occasion she was just stuck in her house because she had no easel, and for whatever reason she was not going to the high school to skill painting like the sims do in the original neighborhoods. (She had a path blocked symbol above her head.) The freezing problems I've been having lately are not off and on freezing. No amount of time will result in the game resuming, so shutting it down via task manager is the only option. But as I mentioned previously, I used the reset world command the third time I restarted, before the freezing occured, and have not had any freezing issues since. I was controlling a 3-sim house, one of whom was a toddler and another was at work, so it wasn't any of the sims under my control who had the problem. It would have taken hours to track down the problem sim when you have a full neighborhood with sims spread out all over the place. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Menaceman on 2010 April 30, 22:13:00 With my freezing though it never happens at the same point twice. Once the game freezes and I restart from the last save point, the game runs as normal past the previous freeze until it hits a new freeze point.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Silent Dreamer on 2010 May 01, 00:24:48 With my freezing though it never happens at the same point twice. Once the game freezes and I restart from the last save point, the game runs as normal past the previous freeze until it hits a new freeze point. I can second this. It so far has happened to me when a menu is about to pop up. For example, I wanted to get a career for my sim and the game froze just before the options appeared. Next, it froze when I went to the store right before the options appeared. However, if I restart the save, I can get past that same point with no issue whatsoever... until I get to the next one. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 May 02, 19:22:42 Pescado there is only one way to solve this crash problem. Can you create a program to make Windows 7 compatible to SIMS 3?
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 May 03, 12:20:40 Pescado there is only one way to solve this crash problem. Can you create a program to make Windows 7 compatible to SIMS 3? What makes you think it isn't compatible? Running Windows 7 64-bit, and apart from the odd freeze occasionally, there isn't any compatibility issue. I can go hours a day for several weeks without getting a freeze, then get a couple in a short space of time, then go weeks again without any. Doesn't sound like a compatibility issue with Windows 7 to me. I suspect it is more likely a game issue. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: The_Goddess on 2010 May 03, 14:44:14 Pescado there is only one way to solve this crash problem. Can you create a program to make Windows 7 compatible to SIMS 3? What makes you think it isn't compatible? Running Windows 7 64-bit, and apart from the odd freeze occasionally, there isn't any compatibility issue. I can go hours a day for several weeks without getting a freeze, then get a couple in a short space of time, then go weeks again without any. Doesn't sound like a compatibility issue with Windows 7 to me. I suspect it is more likely a game issue. I also run Windows 7 64-bit and have had no freezes that last longer than an annoying few seconds. I'm leaning towards driver issues as my guess for the culprit. Nvidia cards seem to be causing quite a bit of frustration of late. I stand by my earlier suggestion of "Go shopping". Shopping solves so many problems. Treat yourself to a Radeon. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: lordrichter on 2010 May 03, 18:30:33 I run Win 7 x64 and NVIDIA with no problems. The only freezing I see is related to items I have previously discussed.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 May 04, 03:18:11 Pescado there is only one way to solve this crash problem. Can you create a program to make Windows 7 compatible to SIMS 3? What makes you think it isn't compatible? Running Windows 7 64-bit, and apart from the odd freeze occasionally, there isn't any compatibility issue. I can go hours a day for several weeks without getting a freeze, then get a couple in a short space of time, then go weeks again without any. Doesn't sound like a compatibility issue with Windows 7 to me. I suspect it is more likely a game issue. I also run Windows 7 64-bit and have had no freezes that last longer than an annoying few seconds. I'm leaning towards driver issues as my guess for the culprit. Nvidia cards seem to be causing quite a bit of frustration of late. I stand by my earlier suggestion of "Go shopping". Shopping solves so many problems. Treat yourself to a Radeon. I tried a HD4890 card once, ripped it out and went back to Nvidia. I couldn't install the Catalyst center for running the displays, it kept saying some windows component was missing, and after 3 weeks of emails back and form with AMD, and forum searching to try and solve the problem I gave up. With 2 monitors I needed the catalyst to be able to set up both properly. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: dedust on 2010 May 07, 12:12:26 I've been having this issue too, from the annoying semi freezes where animations and sounds can be seen and heard, but nothing is clickable and so on. This usually doesn't last long and the game resumes by itself. This is sort of a sign of the absolute freeze coming on later.
Then there's the absolute freeze, where I have to force quit the game and hope that my last save wasn't too long ago. Usually happens exactly as I'm using a pop up menu, sometimes in CAS (plan outfit usually), changing game speeds, or sometimes just generally when the time is ripe for a freeze. Which happens to be around 2 hrs of gameplay. So basically if I look at the clock when I start, I'm able to save my game before it'll freeze. What could possibly go wrong in 2 hours that causes the crash? Also I've noticed significant lag in Sim actions, they could be staring the fridge for (sim) hours, before they start cooking. I'm not even using Windows, I'm running this on OS X Snow Leopard. Which the game thinks to be XP apparently, since it's running trough cider, an emulator platform used by EA among others, so they don't have to do any new coding. And which of course eats a LOT of memory. Those lazy bastards. And my mac has Nvidia too. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 May 09, 08:03:02 I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was some kind of bottleneck within the game itself. Basically EAxis craptastic shit.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Menaceman on 2010 May 09, 14:28:51 I have absolutely NO idea what's changed in my game but two days after posting about the constant random crashing it hasn't happened since. I think the only thing I changed was that I turned aging back on for a few Sim days. It was off when I reported the issue. I've had storymode activated the whole time.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Rainbow_Brite on 2010 May 09, 22:43:20 I have absolutely NO idea what's changed in my game but two days after posting about the constant random crashing it hasn't happened since. I think the only thing I changed was that I turned aging back on for a few Sim days. It was off when I reported the issue. I've had storymode activated the whole time. I've never played my game with the aging off but my game continues to crash. I still can't seem to find anything that actually triggers it. I have done the DEP thing, and that helped for a long time. I didn't have any issues and then all of a sudden it started crashing again. I then went and downloaded the CFF explorer and tried that. Again, it seemed to work for awhile and now I am back to having my game crash. I just continually save it whenever I remember and keep reading forums to see if anyone else has found a solution. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: dedust on 2010 May 11, 21:04:47 I tried the CFF Explorer too, fixed the files in Windows and moved them back to my Mac. Still freezing and crashing, again after about 2 hours of playing. This seems to be the actual playing time, and times when paused don't count. Can't be exactly sure though.
Also there's still this strange Sim lag, that seems to be somehow connected to changing clothes. Going for a jog, to work or to a shower all require changing, and my sims seem to have some trouble with it. They just tend to stand there for hours until they change their clothes. Does anyone else have this, is it EAxian, AM or connected to the crashing? Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 May 12, 09:01:21 Developers are currently working on a new patch. This will solve DEP Problems. One thing which is in common with crashes is inventory limit. EA will be adding a limit to how much can be in inventory. Also the DEP is crashing with Windows 32 and 64.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: vorpal on 2010 May 12, 09:16:38 Changing outfits does cause lags as has been mentioned several times in various threads and the only thing you can do in this case is to pause the game before changing to allow the game to load the outfits in the background.
As regards other lags, from what I could see by following twallan's threads at TSC, Story Progression is probably the main cause, as he has set up a testing routine to eliminate lags caused by his own SP mod (http://ts3.tscexchange.com/index.php?topic=1842.0). And this may also be the cause for many of those crashes in connection with some bad sim or routing failure. In one of my games I had a certain homeless Sim named Narcissa Vatos who was so sex-crazed that every time I got the message of her romancing someone the game crashed immediately afterwards (she must have been a bigger bang than even Zaphod Beeblebrox). After I annihilated her the crashes went away. So, your 2 hour problem may be due to something going on behind the scenes that is triggered every two hours and causes your CPUs to overload (which is, of course, an amateurish assumption as I am one of those stupid Mac users who is happy when he manages to find the socket for his keyboard). What I am quite sure about, though, is that those freezes are EAxian, because I had these from the very beginning when I got the game last year in June. Patch 1.8 was probably the best in this respect as I had no problems then (this was also the patch that enabled Macs to finally use custom hairs again). With 1.11 the freezes are back, but actually less often than before and for some of these I can track the cause (like some routing problems in vacationlands or, as I said, SP events that sort of fail). And whenever this happens and I have to force quit, the Mac equivalent of Process Monitor showed me full bars on both levels. Ea seems to be superbly apt at creating apps that cause your machines to overreact, just look at Bioware's Dragon Age forum and the inability of a formerly quite capable developer team to address these issues. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: lordrichter on 2010 May 12, 23:06:56 Developers are currently working on a new patch. This will solve DEP Problems. One thing which is in common with crashes is inventory limit. EA will be adding a limit to how much can be in inventory. Also the DEP is crashing with Windows 32 and 64. What makes you think this? Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 May 13, 06:58:33 Developers are currently working on a new patch. This will solve DEP Problems. One thing which is in common with crashes is inventory limit. EA will be adding a limit to how much can be in inventory. Also the DEP is crashing with Windows 32 and 64. What makes you think this? Given that EAxis released a patch just before WA to update the base game with new features needed for WA, it is probably a fair call that EAxis will also release a patch prior to the next EP, updating the base game to support the new EP. As to whether the patch will fix the crashing problem, I would ask the same thing of StormChaserOne. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: ItchyNScratchy on 2010 May 13, 18:11:08 Glad I found this thread. I'd put TS3 away a few months ago after I couldn't stand playing without AwesomeMod anymore. I've never been able to get AwesomeMod to work. I've read all the tutorials that I could find to see if I was doing something wrong, but I've never been able to figure out the problem. I place AwesomeMod in my game file (no other mods, or even ANY other CC, mind you), I start the game, and it crashes before it can even really begin loading. I tried troubleshooting this last year, but eventually gave up because I couldn't find an episode that anyone had that was similar to mine. When I take AwesomeMod out, the game runs fine. But it's hardly worth playing if I can't play every household without watching each one age to elder before I can even play 3 sim days. ::) So Sims 3 has just set dormant in my machine for a long time.
Short of looking like the lone, dumb idiot, I just never posted my issue here. I don't have Windows 7, so I'm sure that it's not necessarily just a Windows 7 issue. I have Vista 32-bit machine. I'd love to play Sims 3 again--with AwesomeMod--but I just don't know how to make it work. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: misscatfish on 2010 May 13, 19:10:57 I place AwesomeMod in my game file To which "game file" are you referring? Do you have the necessary framework installed? But it's hardly worth playing if I can't play every household without watching each one age to elder before I can even play 3 sim days. You can play with aging turned off whether or not you have AM, but there are dozens of other good reasons to have it. You may find it worth your effort to lurk around a bit more for existing information. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: ItchyNScratchy on 2010 May 13, 19:37:56 I place AwesomeMod in my game file To which "game file" are you referring? Do you have the necessary framework installed? But it's hardly worth playing if I can't play every household without watching each one age to elder before I can even play 3 sim days. You can play with aging turned off whether or not you have AM, but there are dozens of other good reasons to have it. You may find it worth your effort to lurk around a bit more for existing information. And as for lurking more, I've lurked and lurked and lurked my share, on here, on the Sims 3 site (that doesn't do much good), and on other Sims 3 forums. Unfortunately, most of the time when I can manage to stumble on a situation that I think might be relevant to my situation, I end up finding that there are replies such as, "look around more. You clearly failed." or "Lurk moar, use search." or "READ THE FAQ". It's quite hard to find answers amidst all of the folks replying calling folks n00bs. It's no wonder people can't find answers--they're having to weed through all of the name-calling. :D That's why I gave up with AwesomeMod last year. I didn't want to deal with being told to read and lurk more. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment. I'm not someone who does a lot of talking--as you can see, I've been a member here for quite some time and the only time I ever post here anymore is when I'm at the end of my rope, google hasn't come through for me, and can't find the answer on my own. ;) ETA: This is also something I've followed in the past. Just tried and it still doesn't work: http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Loading_Crashes And now I can say that the game will now load about 1/3 of the way and doesn't progress. It also will not close without Ctrl/Alt/Del. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: misscatfish on 2010 May 14, 00:53:40 ItchyNScratchy: Fair enough. I couldn't tell from your post what you had already tried, and thought it might have been a case of search fail. Bits of this problem do sound familiar from my lurkings, but since I've been lucky in not having very many issues, anything beyond the very, very obvious is beyond my experience. Therefore, I leave you to the tender mercies of the More Awesome.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: myskaal on 2010 May 14, 01:36:32 Just my recommendation, insure that you have no corrupted files floating about: Completely uninstall. Delete everything. Run CCleaner (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner).
Reinstall and patch. Follow these instructions for installing the framework: http://sublimesims.net/smf/index.php?topic=1726.0 Drop awesome.package and aweconfig into C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Mods\Packages (unless you specified a different directory for game install, then follow the path as needed). Come back and let us know if it crashes again. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: DMDye on 2010 May 14, 02:21:51 Also, remember to delete the My Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3 folder when uninstalling.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Rainbow_Brite on 2010 May 14, 06:39:01 "I have the Resource.cfg file in WA and base game. I tried taking it out of the base game and loading, that didn't work. So I just put it back in the base game file. I've got awesome mod in the Hacks portion of WA" This is pretty much the same as what myskaal wrote, I just put it all here so you can follow step by step. First of all.. you should only have one Resource.cfg file. This could have been your issue all along. Secondly, you need to have the d3dx9_31.dll in both C:/Program Files/Electronic Arts/The Sims 3/Game/Bin AND C:/Program Files/Electronic Arts/The Sims 3 World Adventures/Game/Bin. I know that you mentioned you did this, but check again. Now, you need to put your Resource.cfg file in C:/Program Files/Electronic Arts/The Sims 3 World Adventures. Then, you need to create a folder for your mods in C:/Program Files/Electronic Arts/The Sims 3 World Adventures -->(created folder: Mods/Packages). Your mods will go here (including AM). So overall, your mods will go in C:/Program Files/Electronic Arts/The Sims 3 World Adventures/Mods/Packages. It's really not as difficult or as intimidating as people who come on this forum and complain about it to be. Like I said, follow that step-by-step and AM should run. If it doesn't, double check.. triple check. It could be something as simple as you thinking you put a file somewhere that it isn't. To check and see if AM is installed correctly, hit ctrl + shift + c and type showconfig in the box. Do this when your 'hood is loaded. If you get 3-4 blue pages popping up with settings, then AM is working correctly. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 May 14, 06:49:19 I got this DEP issue on priority list along with inventory. I was on EA chat with Gavin and Microsoft for 3 hours. I even threatened to hack SIMS 3 to make it compatible to Win 7 64 Bit. You need to hack game to make it compatible.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 May 14, 07:12:54 I am not certain how that constitutes a threat.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: ItchyNScratchy on 2010 May 14, 11:30:08 Just my recommendation, insure that you have no corrupted files floating about: Completely uninstall. Delete everything. Run CCleaner (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner). LOL Funny thing is that I've just come back from a nasty virus, thanks to one of those popups "Your system may be affected! Click to run this virus scan!", those crap malware things. So, I ended up having to wipe the PC, so Sims 3 is just newly installed, and CCleaner is one of the programs I've used in addressing issues with my PC. So, that's one step down at least! Patches are also up and running as well.Reinstall and patch. Follow these instructions for installing the framework: http://sublimesims.net/smf/index.php?topic=1726.0 Drop awesome.package and aweconfig into C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Mods\Packages (unless you specified a different directory for game install, then follow the path as needed). Come back and let us know if it crashes again. Followed Rainbow_Brite's suggestion about the Resource.cfg file. It was in both files--base and WA. That was the entire problem. The one thing I didn't try to remove! *headdesk* EA really could've made things easier for us. I hate that they've made it like pulling teeth to mod a game. Thanks for all of your help, folks! I truly appreciate it! ;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ETA: Ok, we're back to square 1 again. After adding in aweconf to my Sims 3 WA/Mods/Packages/Hacks file, I'm back to where I started from. So, I've gone back, checked everything again with my files to make sure that everything was right where it should be, and it is. I'm not sure if I've done something wrong in putting in aweconf or what. So, here's what I did so this might be able to be fixed.... I went to the AwesomeMod Configuration, selected to generate the file, saved it to my desktop then moved it to my WA/Mods/Packages/Hacks file along with awesome package file. Rebooting the game makes it stick to about 1/3 of the way loading and doesn't go any further. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: bluetank on 2010 May 14, 17:59:55 Are you people sure this CTD only happens to windows 7 users? I get the same type of crash and I'm running windows Vista 64bit with an nvidia card (GTX 295).
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: jezzer on 2010 May 14, 21:18:10 64-bit Vista has its own problems with running Sims 3 that result in a CTD. I've seen them discussing it on here. Try Search.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Rainbow_Brite on 2010 May 14, 22:11:46 ETA: Ok, we're back to square 1 again. After adding in aweconf to my Sims 3 WA/Mods/Packages/Hacks file, I'm back to where I started from. So, I've gone back, checked everything again with my files to make sure that everything was right where it should be, and it is. I'm not sure if I've done something wrong in putting in aweconf or what. So, here's what I did so this might be able to be fixed.... I went to the AwesomeMod Configuration, selected to generate the file, saved it to my desktop then moved it to my WA/Mods/Packages/Hacks file along with awesome package file. Rebooting the game makes it stick to about 1/3 of the way loading and doesn't go any further. Do you have an updated version of the Resource.cfg file? I see that you made another file within the Packages folder so that's why I'm asking. If you are using a Resource.cfg file that you downloaded when the game first came out, it might not be coded to recognize multiple files within your Mods/Packages folder. If you're not sure, open up your Resource.cfg file in Notepad at paste: Priority 500 DirectoryFiles Mods/Packages/... autoupdate PackedFile Mods/Packages/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*/*/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*/*/*/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*.dbc PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*.dbc This will also allow you to have .dbc files within your Mods/Packages folder. Anach has a tutorial on how to do that if you want to learn how to compile all of your CC. Usually when the game doesn't load all the way it is a framework fail. Obviously, you said it was working earlier so that's why I'm assuming it's your Resource.cfg file and not your framework. I could be wrong but that's the first thing that comes to mind. Make sure you have Awesome.package and Aweconfig.package in the SAME folder and you have the most recent version of AM. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wizard_merlin on 2010 May 15, 01:22:55 I got this DEP issue on priority list along with inventory. I was on EA chat with Gavin and Microsoft for 3 hours. I even threatened to hack SIMS 3 to make it compatible to Win 7 64 Bit. You need to hack game to make it compatible. What compatibility issue with Windows 7 64-Bit? You make it sound like the game is actually unplayable on this OS. I had CTD's with TS2 and Windows XP, did that mean they were also incompatible? I haven't had a CTD for several weeks now, so does this mean it is or isn't compatible. If the game was truly incompatible as yo claim, it either wouldn't run at all, or would CTD on a regular basis. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: myskaal on 2010 May 15, 02:07:55 ETA: Ok, we're back to square 1 again. After adding in aweconf to my Sims 3 WA/Mods/Packages/Hacks file, I'm back to where I started from. So, I've gone back, checked everything again with my files to make sure that everything was right where it should be, and it is. I'm not sure if I've done something wrong in putting in aweconf or what. So, here's what I did so this might be able to be fixed.... I went to the AwesomeMod Configuration, selected to generate the file, saved it to my desktop then moved it to my WA/Mods/Packages/Hacks file along with awesome package file. Rebooting the game makes it stick to about 1/3 of the way loading and doesn't go any further. Do you have an updated version of the Resource.cfg file? I see that you made another file within the Packages folder so that's why I'm asking. If you are using a Resource.cfg file that you downloaded when the game first came out, it might not be coded to recognize multiple files within your Mods/Packages folder. If you're not sure, open up your Resource.cfg file in Notepad at paste: Priority 500 DirectoryFiles Mods/Packages/... autoupdate PackedFile Mods/Packages/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*/*/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*/*/*/*.package PackedFile Mods/Packages/*.dbc PackedFile Mods/Packages/*/*.dbc This will also allow you to have .dbc files within your Mods/Packages folder. Anach has a tutorial on how to do that if you want to learn how to compile all of your CC. Usually when the game doesn't load all the way it is a framework fail. Obviously, you said it was working earlier so that's why I'm assuming it's your Resource.cfg file and not your framework. I could be wrong but that's the first thing that comes to mind. Make sure you have Awesome.package and Aweconfig.package in the SAME folder and you have the most recent version of AM. Also try putting things simply in the base game mods directory instead of in the EP directory. For some people this works for others is does not. I'm one of the users that it works in the base game directories but not in the ep or sp directories. My framework is set up like so: C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3: Resource.cfg C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin: d3dx9_31.dll C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Mods\Files: DDFMap.txt and Resource.cfg (again) C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3 World Adventures: Resource.cfg C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3 World Adventures\Game\Bin: d3dx9_31.dll C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3 High-End Loft Stuff: Resource.cfg C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3 High-End Loft Stuff\Game\Bin: d3dx9_31.dll I do not have a mods directory in either WA or HELS. However, some users have reported that they need to place their mods in one or the other of those directories to get them working. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: ItchyNScratchy on 2010 May 15, 18:44:20 Ok, thanks, guys. Will give your suggestions a try. I'm about to just throw in the towel again. Sims 2 stuff is so much easier to handle; EA has royally screwed themselves over by making it so hard to mod (and then get it to work) this game.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Rainbow_Brite on 2010 May 16, 02:49:45 Ok, thanks, guys. Will give your suggestions a try. I'm about to just throw in the towel again. Sims 2 stuff is so much easier to handle; EA has royally screwed themselves over by making it so hard to mod (and then get it to work) this game. If it was working before you added the Aweconfig file, then you had everything set up right. You just need to figure out what went wrong. I would suggest if you have any other questions about this, post in the 'Awesomemod discussion, questions & helpful tips thread'. Maybe then more people will read your questions and be able to help you. Like I said, the only other suggestion I had to help you was making sure you had an updated resource.cfg file. Hopefully you will be able to figure it out. :EDIT: One more thing.. do you have the DDFMap.txt? I just found this is the AM discussion thread: I started a clean version of the game, no CC- just AM, and the same thing happened, but I figured out what was wrong. When I downloaded AM I also downloaded the framework zip found here http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15184.0.html (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15184.0.html), I put the d3dx9_31.dll file into TS3\Game\Bin folder, the resource.cfg file AND the DDFMap.txt notepad into TS3\Mods\Packages folder. When I deleted the DDFMap.txt file and threw it into the garbage, I went back and re-loaded the game and it worked perfectly... with AM installed. UPDATE I am now... AWESOME! Finally! My game is now completely updated, TS3:WA version 2.6.11. AM is in my game and there is no black or red screen. I'm quite positive that the problem was that DDFMap.txt. included in the framework zip on-site, now that I have not used it, everything seems to run smoothly. Maybe this is your problem? Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 May 16, 03:32:07 It's no the DDFmap, because I still use the old DDFmap version and no red squares for me. However, that's really a relic of back when hacking was more technical, and no one actually uses that method today, so for the most part, no one uses the DDFmap anymore.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Fikcija on 2010 May 17, 07:04:47 I am having a crash to desktop just a second after I click the icon to open the game, nothing even starts happening, it just crashes immediately. The weird thing is (it sounded completely impossible to me at first, but it's proven to be consistent) it starts when I have TS2 running. At first when it didn't load I just thought "ok, I'll play TS2 now and figure what's wrong later". Then after a while minimized TS2 and tried TS3 again. It loaded so I thought that crash was random. But when the next time I turned on my computer again and tried to run TS3, it crashed again! I tried a few times, then loaded TS2, minimized it, and TS3 loaded just fine. I have no idea how this could be connected as they are in different folders, but it obviously is connected somehow.
I have only TS3 base game, using Windows XP and I'm not sure it started to happen immediately after that or some time later, but it's after I have reinstalled windows. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 June 13, 19:00:32 I have also done something I did not want to do, but I did do it. Uninstall the EADM. No more crashes for me.
Pescado crack open the EADM it is one of several reasons for desktop crashes. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: jezzer on 2010 June 14, 02:03:24 I had my first CTD while doing an architectural task. I had placed all of the required items but paintings, and got a CTD as soon as I clicked on a CC painting in the catalog. I'm probably going to stick to EA items for designer tasks from now on.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 June 16, 02:32:16 Jeromy try Delphy's Dashboard and scan your Packages.
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=387006 I find that if CC is corrupted it can lead to crashes. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 June 16, 03:03:16 Pescado crack open the EADM it is one of several reasons for desktop crashes. That would require installing it. What makes you think I'd be daft enough to do a dumbass thing like that?Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 June 16, 05:01:59 Very true Pescado. For people who do direct download will just have to keep installing and uninstalling.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 June 16, 08:49:46 People who do "direct download" are also morons, so meh.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: StormchaserOne on 2010 June 17, 11:09:38 Or Pescado some who direct download are disabled veterans.
Also I am going to be testing a theory out. People who have Dells like myself, Dell has piss poor fans which I did not know about until recently. I am going to be throwing in new fans. And, also see if that is cause of crash. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 June 17, 11:14:54 Or Pescado some who direct download are disabled veterans. Which does not preclude moronity, and I entirely fail to see how this is relevant at all. Playing the veteran card doesn't win points with me, I've been there myself.Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: jezzer on 2010 June 17, 14:04:09 Or Pescado some who direct download are disabled veterans. Which does not preclude moronity, and I entirely fail to see how this is relevant at all. Playing the veteran card doesn't win points with me, I've been there myself.Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Daghain on 2010 June 28, 04:13:59 I got this DEP issue on priority list along with inventory. I was on EA chat with Gavin and Microsoft for 3 hours. I even threatened to hack SIMS 3 to make it compatible to Win 7 64 Bit. You need to hack game to make it compatible. What compatibility issue with Windows 7 64-Bit? You make it sound like the game is actually unplayable on this OS. I had CTD's with TS2 and Windows XP, did that mean they were also incompatible? I haven't had a CTD for several weeks now, so does this mean it is or isn't compatible. If the game was truly incompatible as yo claim, it either wouldn't run at all, or would CTD on a regular basis. I have a Mac, and I'm getting similar CTD's. So no, I don't think it's Windows. I'd love to figure it out, though, because this game is crap without AM. Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: egon_weber on 2010 June 28, 06:30:22 I have a win xp. My game crash down when i try to use the dresser or the mirror with AM installed. Without AM is there no problems. So everytime i will make my sim having new clothes i have to uninstall AM first. I can reinstall AM again when their clothes or outfit is ok.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Daghain on 2010 June 28, 18:49:53 In the bug thread it's been mentioned that it might be tattoos that are the problem. There's a new patch out, I'm going to see if that works tonight.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: wycked on 2010 June 28, 21:55:56 In the bug thread it's been mentioned that it might be tattoos that are the problem. There's a new patch out, I'm going to see if that works tonight. I played for 2 hours without a problem earlier today, then had a tattoo done and crashed to desktop. So..yeah.@StormchaserOne: I had a DEP issue too after installing Ambitions, took me forever to find out as I'm not computer savvy, -I'm on Win XP, not Win 7 Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: yourfaceisepicfail on 2010 July 07, 06:02:00 I am also having this problem, of Sims random crashing to desktop, however I have noticed that happens from installing other mods, after AM. If I remove packages/mods etc installed after AM, I have no problem. I assume that means conflicting mods?? Not graphics related?? Either way, I have trial and error style. 12 files down, 42 to go. -.-
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2010 July 07, 06:59:46 I am also having this problem, of Sims random crashing to desktop, however I have noticed that happens from installing other mods, after AM. If I remove packages/mods etc installed after AM, I have no problem That does tend to be the cause of crashing, yes.Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Anach on 2010 July 07, 10:35:26 So far I've experienced a couple age related CTD, which are easily fixed by the "resetage" command on the sims listed in via the "listagers" command. However, since last night, it seems to be any age-up event that is causing CTD. Unless something major has broken, the only other reason I can think of is that it's something to do with the sims being some of the original townies that are now dying off and were possibly corrupt. The only thing I have noticed with the last two age-up related CTD is that each contained a death event. The first time, one sim was an elder service npc, the second time an elder town sim, which were both scheduled to die, but instead CTD. If I forced them to age-up right away, it would CTD, however if i first "resetage", then aged them up manually back to where they were previously at, they would die off normally and without CTD. I'll probably see a few more CTD events from time to time until I've got rid of the original batch of townies.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Madame Mim on 2010 July 08, 00:35:11 I had an aging up CTD recently - seems the hair my toddler had been given was corrupt somehow in child, because when I took the hair out no more CTD's.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: minafairbrook on 2010 December 09, 17:34:26 Hey, I just wanted to let everyone know I did figure out the problem eventually.
It was just a coincidence that it started happening when I installed Awesomemod. Im using it now and its all good. I gave up for a while but eventually wanted to play it again so after googling enough I found out a lot of people have the issue and its an issue EA needs to actually patch and it usually DOESNT happen as soon as you get the game and so on. Someone made a free fix for it, too. I figure if anyone with the same problem reads this itd be helpful to share the link- http://soulfulsims.mybigcommerce.com/products/Sims-3-Crash-Fix.html Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Jessnova on 2010 December 09, 17:59:18 Ugh. That's just a Large Address Aware fix for the stupid, marketed as a magic fix-all. Since LAA was supposed to have been adjusted in LN, that 'fix' should be redundant.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: Jeebus on 2010 December 09, 20:53:01 I think you still have to adjust the config to allow the game to use the RAM, though.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: minafairbrook on 2010 December 11, 19:05:26 I dont really know much about it except I tried it and it works and I havent crashed since I started using it.
Title: Re: Random Crash to Desktop Post by: MistyBlue on 2010 December 15, 16:07:25 After patching, this shit is happening to me again...I even reinstalled the whole damn game and I'm still getting the random crashes. I'm so fed up with this f-ing game.
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