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Title: Am I a bad person?
Post by: vecki on 2005 July 29, 02:19:27
I just recently started a legacy family (haven't yet got up the guts or awesomeness to start an Email challenge).

The founder, Simone Le Gassey (Simone The Flatulent, as I've nicknamed her) started out as an attractive adult with ROUND ears.  Her son, Adrian the doofus, spun up the knowledge aspiration so he was desperate to go to uni (LTW is to become, yawn, a Mad Scientist).  He picked up in the intelligence stakes as a teen with four out of 7 skills maxed out (You should have seen him as a child.  I'm surprised he didn't come home with a sign on his back which said 'kick me' - he was just that stupid).

Anyway, I gave in and sent Adrian to college despite my reservations.  And, I used a cheat.  I've been using the college clock to speed up things.  He skills in the rare occasions he needs to, does his term paper, does his assignments, goes to any classes that pop up along the way until the bar is maxed up, energises, and goes straight to his final  In an hour he'd finished 2 years worth of Uni, and gotten engaged to Brandi LeTourneau.  Is that bad?  Should I be slapped down and have lips ripped off?

Just to go off on a tangent, he developed Vulcanitis as a toddler, and didn't lose the pointed ears until he went to Uni (although interestingly, his now rounded ears stick out more than any sim I've ever seen).  Simone became an elder and developed a simultaneous case of Vulcanitis and Klingonitis.  I've never seen such an unattractive elder, and boy is that saying something.  I'm gonna have to put up some snapshots, methinks.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Darkstormyeve on 2005 July 29, 02:24:22
Nope, but if you had married Marsha Bruenig, I would have personally tracked you down and slap you.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: DuckSpeak on 2005 July 29, 02:24:53
Cheating is good. Not cheating is bad.  ;D  Anyway, you by cheating put you in a disadvantaged position since you had less time to build skills and so on, and that's hardly something to be called bad.

Though I agree with you Darkstormyeve, Marsha Bruenig... is a hellspawn.



Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: veilchen on 2005 July 29, 02:34:34
Well, then I and many others should be slapped around too. I speed up the college game too, simply because I find University severely boring. I want them in and out as fast as possible, preferably before I fall asleep and hit my head on my keyboard. I rarely even play University anymore, I use the lot debugger and update them with "update pre-university sim" (at least I think that's what the wording of the option is).

So what if they want to go to University, I know whats best for my pixel-people. Sometimes we just can't get everything we want, right? :D

G.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: fff on 2005 July 29, 02:43:17
You're not alone, Vecki - Uni becomes extremely tiresome after a while, and now I just use it to allow my Sims to meet (and shag) new people, and just basically get through it as quick as poss.

Pretty much like Uni in RL, as I recall..... ;D


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Katze on 2005 July 29, 03:20:21
Yes uni is boring I use macrostatic college rampage and than the clock to forward to final, all my teens that are born in game have all there skills maxed.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 July 29, 03:35:24
Nope, but if you had married Marsha Bruenig, I would have personally tracked you down and slap you.

We need an "I hate Marsha Bruenig because......" thread!


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: gali on 2005 July 29, 04:28:10
Am I the only one that likes Marsha?...:). What the kid has done to you? I befriend all my sim-kids with Marsha, and didn't find any negative personality tracks.

The BBS is full of "Marsha haters"...:).

I hate River Smith, and always delete him from my neighbourhood - move him in, find his own place, and - thrown to the trash...:). This guy is taking my wit off - 3 times a day he calls my sims.

...And  vecki is right, college IS boring. I too speed up the time, to send them back to the neighbourhood.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Darkstormyeve on 2005 July 29, 04:50:48
I speed up college as well and now tend to not send them. Teenagers are good to help raise babies and stuff. In fact, I would guess that the amount of people who use uni properly are in the minority. Its just good for meeting people for those who you are doing the legacy challenge and yep, shagging.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Trubble on 2005 July 29, 10:22:38
Nope, but if you had married Marsha Bruenig, I would have personally tracked you down and slap you.

We need an "I hate Marsha Bruenig because......" thread!

I hope you're joking... that's far to BBS(and thus less awesome than here)-esque. We usually make fun of threads like that over in Retardo Land...


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: HRH Posie on 2005 July 29, 10:30:04
*sniggers* this is very true trubble.  Also vecki your YA only needs to fill 3/4 of the bar as the remaining 1/4 will be gained by sitting the final  ;)


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Trubble on 2005 July 29, 10:35:03
I did always wonder about the filling of the bar. I guess I was a bit stupid there - but oh well. It explains a lot. Cheers Posie.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2005 July 29, 12:40:37
Nope, but if you had married Marsha Bruenig, I would have personally tracked you down and slap you.
You'd better track me down then - I closed my game last night after Marsha Bruenig married Vincent Walter, the son of Brandi Broke & Vince Walter.  For some reason, Brandi was very attached to Marsha and she was always round the Broke place, so when Brandi & Vince died, I moved her in to get her some scholarships and she went to Uni with Vincent and Alison, Brandi & Vince's adopted daughter.  She's much better now in that she doesn't harrass people anymore (I have other Sims do that), but she's a bit of a cold fish.  Made a good student, though.  Oddly enough, Brandi was also very attached to the teenage Ivy Copur, so it was a toss-up between her and Marsha when it came to finding a life-partner for Vincent.  Ivy lost out and is now living with another woman.  No 'relationship' yet, but as the only male she has any interest in is Vincent, there may well be one developing shortly.  Maybe the issue here is Brandi and why she was so fond of teenage townie females ...

*sniggers* this is very true trubble.  Also vecki your YA only needs to fill 3/4 of the bar as the remaining 1/4 will be gained by sitting the final 
Now this is interesting.  I've noticed that quite a few students who've gone to the final with at least enough space to fit in another assignment or class have still managed to get 4.0 and this puzzled me.  Normally I have them furiously doing several assignments on the trot to max the bar out!  Then again, I have had some who've been 3/4 full who have only got 3.9, so maybe there's more to it than that.  I will perform tests shortly.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: reggikko on 2005 July 29, 12:41:33
Vecki, I feel your pain. My legacy so far...Founder=Fortune. NPC grocery delivery girl wife=Fortune. Their only child=Fortune. The first grandchild to become a teen=Fortune! The teen is a cutie, just like his dad. My only hope is the toddler who is a clone of her monkey-faced mother. I'm having a hard time getting story material from these sims. The daughter's husband is the most boring Popularity Sim I've ever played. Thankfully he fulfilled his LTW and I can basically ignore him. All these Sims ever talk about is money, sports and the weather. I nearly became comatose playing them last night.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: HRH Posie on 2005 July 29, 12:44:38
Ancient Sim it is mood dependent.  If your sim has decent stats they will fill more of the bar than a sim that is half asleep lacking in social.  That was my fault; I should have specified this earlier.  This is why some sims that have a 3/4 full bar only get a 3.9 and an A- grade.  In addition they need to make the exam on time ;)


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 29, 13:01:08
All these Sims ever talk about is money, sports and the weather. I nearly became comatose playing them last night.
Mine are particularly fond of money, politics, culture, and crime. A sim lacking one of these interests tend to have a hard time, and a sim lacking TWO of these interests is going to find it really difficult to relate to anyone. Johnny Smith had this problem, due to a failure to properly appreciate politics, and thus had a lot of difficulty making friends until he gained at least 4 points in it.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2005 July 29, 13:31:40
Mine are particularly fond of money, politics, culture, and crime. A sim lacking one of these interests tend to have a hard time, and a sim lacking TWO of these interests is going to find it really difficult to relate to anyone.[/quote Johnny Smith had this problem, due to a failure to properly appreciate politics, and thus had a lot of difficulty making friends until he gained at least 4 points in it.
I have to admit that I rarely take any notice of what mine are discussing.  Only recently I noticed a Sim getting all excited about ghosts, waving his arms about and stuff, and I thought that was rather amusing.  I wouldn't know a culture icon if I saw one and I don't think I know what the politics ones look like, either.  Maybe we need a list of these icons and what they mean?  I have a hard time sometimes trying to work out what they're on about.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 29, 14:19:13
I only pay attention when they start having the minus signs fly. Otherwise, no, it's not very important what they talk about.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: gali on 2005 July 29, 14:24:56
" I wouldn't know a culture icon if I saw one and I don't think I know what the politics ones look like, either.  Maybe we need a list of these icons and what they mean?  I have a hard time sometimes trying to work out what they're on about." (Ansient)

Open the "interests" page, and you will see all the bubbles which are connected to a certain interest. You can make a list in no time...:).


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Brynne on 2005 July 29, 15:32:27
In an hour he'd finished 2 years worth of Uni, and gotten engaged to Brandi LeTourneau.  Is that bad?  Should I be slapped down and have lips ripped off?

Ugh. That slut! Just so you know, she's having an affair with my sim...

As for Marsha Bruenig- in my game, she's dead. Both of them. I killed the second one because the name alone triggers my gag reflex. The original Marsha, along with Jan Tellerman, Chandler Platz, and anyone named Orlando (who was constantly coming home from school with my sims for 4 generations!) were probably the four most annoying characters in my game.
 


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: gali on 2005 July 29, 15:40:44
Lol, Brynne, except the kids - I am with you all the way: I hate too Jan Tellerman and Brandi. As I don't have the heart to kill a sim, I always move them in, move them out, and delete them in the trashcan...:). I just can't see the "die process", too brutal...:).


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 29, 15:42:53
I actually used Jan Tellerman, as well as Komei. Komei actually looks quite distinguished with a beard in his elder years. And he has one of the better sim personalities. That is, he's active. And niceness-impaired....but so what? Nice sims are wussies! I encourage all of my sims to be GROUCHY!
(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/crapola/komei.jpg)

Jan Tellerman isn't so bad either. I figured that maybe the two of them were married or something, so that's what I did in my game. They actually don't produce hideous, or awful children. Generally when I do things with premades or townies, I don't mutilate them so much that they're unrecognizable. As you can clearly see, that guy is definitely Komei.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: gali on 2005 July 29, 15:49:27
"Komei actually looks quite distinguished with a beard in his elder years. And he has one of the better sim personalities. That is, he's active." (JM)

Ooohhh - Komei is my favorite townie! I never marry a townie to my sims - only Komei. He makes awesome kids, the most pretty in the neighbourhood...:) - "awesome than you"?...:)


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 29, 15:51:43
Ooohhh - Komei is my favorite townie! I never marry a townie to my sims - only Komei. He makes awesome kids, the most pretty in the neighbourhood...:) - "awesome than you"?...:)
Yeah, Komei's one of my favorites also. I knew I liked him from the moment I saw him insulting another townie. Komei kinda reminds me of maybe a college professor.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Brynne on 2005 July 29, 16:06:57
Komei is one of the few Townies I didn't kill. He is a "family friend". Never thought about pairing him with Jan Tellerman...wow.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2005 July 29, 16:31:10
Komei is busom buddies with Lilith Pleasant in my game, she brings him home from work almost every day and basically ignores Dirk in favour of Komei.  I am seriously thinking of marrying them off, seeing as she will have 7 days husbandless once Dirk dies.  Komei was also very close to a CAS Sim of mine in the same career, he came home with him a lot as well (as did Lilith).  Komei was VERY upset when this Sim died, he spent hours in his house crying afterwards.  Most unusual for such a grouchy Sim.  I rather like Komei, I will have to do something with him eventually. 


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: taichikitten on 2005 July 29, 16:47:50
Anyway, I gave in and sent Adrian to college despite my reservations.  And, I used a cheat.  I've been using the college clock to speed up things.  He skills in the rare occasions he needs to, does his term paper, does his assignments, goes to any classes that pop up along the way until the bar is maxed up, energises, and goes straight to his final  In an hour he'd finished 2 years worth of Uni, and gotten engaged to Brandi LeTourneau.  Is that bad?  Should I be slapped down and have lips ripped off?

Are you asking if you should be slapped for fast-forwarding college, or getting your Sim engaged to Brandi LeTourneau?  If college - no.  College is tedious and boring.  If Brandi - yes.  A thousand times, yes.  A more snarky, moody, and simply all-around unpleasant Sim I have yet to see.

My Legacy founder was a fairly good-looking guy, though I specifically made him not perfect.  He mated with Brandi (unfortunately this was before I was familiar with her stellar personality) and not only were both offspring not very attractive, but she has passed on a very annoying pointy chin to all females in the family that I have been desperately trying to get rid of through selective breeding ever since.  Of course... I suppose it didn't help that I mated Brandi's daughter with Orlando Centowki, because now his nose is plaguing the males of the line.  He was such a nice guy though... I couldn't bear to get rid of him.  (And really, I'm not all that concerned about whether my Sims are gorgeous or not, but I just cannot handle that weird chin.  Orlando's nose... yes.  Brandi's chin... no.)

Brandi, however, somehow starved to death in a house with a fully stocked fridge.  Imagine that.... 


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Liss on 2005 July 29, 16:56:05
I have a psychotic aversion to ugly sims.  I use the plastic surgery machine liberally, then make sure the "pretty" genes stick by running the character through sim PE afterwards.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 29, 16:57:47
I have an indifference to ugly sims, but there's also a hierarchy involved. Ugly sims marry aliens (which are immune to ugliness by virtue of their alien natures), or other ugly sims.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2005 July 29, 17:14:08
Ugly sims marry aliens (which are immune to ugliness by virtue of their alien natures), or other ugly sims.
Funny you should say that.  My first alien male was not at all attractive and of all the females available (including those at Uni) he chose the ugliest female Sim of the lot.  Her nose is halfway up her face, almost in her eyes, and he has no nose at all.  Their daughter is a sort of combination of the two and having cloned her and checked her out in BodyShop, she is definitely going to be uglier than her mother was.  Just as well she seems to be on the clever side.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 July 29, 17:33:15
Funny you should say that.  My first alien male was not at all attractive and of all the females available (including those at Uni) he chose the ugliest female Sim of the lot.  Her nose is halfway up her face, almost in her eyes, and he has no nose at all.  Their daughter is a sort of combination of the two and having cloned her and checked her out in BodyShop, she is definitely going to be uglier than her mother was.  Just as well she seems to be on the clever side.
Yes, but you see, that's the thing: To me, this DOESN'T MATTER because when I encounter an alien as such, I automatically perform a mental gear shift such that human standards of appearance no longer apply. As such, I can no longer evaluate them at all: They are aliens, and I have no expectations of how they should look. If they come out noseless with funny eyes, well, aliens can be like that. If they look like trolls, well, aliens can look like that, too. I have no expectations here.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2005 July 29, 17:39:37
Well I don't have any expectations, either.  I actually grow very attached to my aliens.  One of my most attractive females came about via a CAS Sim who was pollinated.  Oddly enough, out of the three offspring I made in this family (2 elderly parents, 2 adult males and a female teen), he was the least attractive.  He was a typical 'geek'.  Yet his daughter turned-out very pretty, apart from the huge black eyes; she also has an amazing character.  Unfortunately, she married Alexander Goth's youngest and their child is very peculiar.  He has huge eyes which totally dwarf his face and his DNA says they're alien, yet they aren't all black, just the pupils, which are very small.  His eyes actually look like his grandfather's glasses in his thumbnail picture.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Oddysey on 2005 July 29, 20:49:37
The eyes thing is something that I actually only realized after I replaced the default textures. It only shows up black if the skin is green; otherwise it uses the standard brown. And it pulls it from its own file, not the default file.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: ZephyrZodiac on 2005 July 30, 21:54:29
I have on particular alien sim who has three children, one normally with his non-alien wife, who looks normal, and alien twins he got through getting himself abducted tice on the same night, and even though these twins are three quarters alien, they are quite attractive little sims!


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: vecki on 2005 August 01, 00:01:23
Anyway, I gave in and sent Adrian to college despite my reservations.  And, I used a cheat.  I've been using the college clock to speed up things.  He skills in the rare occasions he needs to, does his term paper, does his assignments, goes to any classes that pop up along the way until the bar is maxed up, energises, and goes straight to his final  In an hour he'd finished 2 years worth of Uni, and gotten engaged to Brandi LeTourneau.  Is that bad?  Should I be slapped down and have lips ripped off?

Are you asking if you should be slapped for fast-forwarding college, or getting your Sim engaged to Brandi LeTourneau?  If college - no.  College is tedious and boring.  If Brandi - yes.  A thousand times, yes.  A more snarky, moody, and simply all-around unpleasant Sim I have yet to see.

Really?? I've found her to be pretty good, for a knowledge sim.  Brought a fair few family friends along with her (the tally's now fifteen), and it also helped that she already was a friend of the family so she's been getting along with everyone wonderfully.  And she scrubs up pretty well after a makeover.  They've just gotten married and had a son, Ben.

I'm hoping that the nose though skips a generation and (dear god) that he's inherited grandpa Kennedy's schnoz, because, well, Adrian inherited Simone's tiny nose and it just made him look like he'd been hit in the face with a frying pan.  Also waiting to see if when Ben becomes a toddler he develops Vulcanitis and pointy ears like Adrian did.  If so I might cry.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Oddysey on 2005 August 01, 02:03:14
The hackage for messing with the Pollination is fairly simple. I can do it, since it's basically a copy and paste operation. Fwiffo has some good packs of better looking PTs on MTS2, and instructions on how to fix 'em up yourself with custom sims, if you really hate the standard aliens. Probably won't want to download my version of that particular hack, because a few of them are even freakier looking than the standard.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: cwieberdink on 2005 August 01, 02:39:24
Lol, Brynne, except the kids - I am with you all the way: I hate too Jan Tellerman and Brandi. As I don't have the heart to kill a sim, I always move them in, move them out, and delete them in the trashcan...:). I just can't see the "die process", too brutal...:).

That's what the cowplant is for Gali, those townies do love them some cake.  Yum!  Just put a gate on that cowplant's fence, go look somewhere else on the lot and voila!  A tombstone for your fambly graveyard.  Haven't seen any ghosts from cowplant deaths though... Maybe they just haven't come out yet?  Remember to take the gate away though, or you'll end up paying a fortune to grimmy to resurrect some long lost friends.

Chris


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: veilchen on 2005 August 01, 03:01:54
Haven't seen any ghosts from cowplant deaths though... Maybe they just haven't come out yet?  Remember to take the gate away though, or you'll end up paying a fortune to grimmy to resurrect some long lost friends.
Chris

They do come out though. I had an unfortunate accident in one of my dorms with a very annoying sim. Seems like someone *cough* left the gate unlocked, and he just wandered in before anyone could stop him. I tried to get my sim's attention, really I did, but....well... anyway, he showed up as a ghost a few days later.

G.


Title: Re: Am I a bad person?
Post by: Oddysey on 2005 August 01, 03:52:54
Cowplant ghosts are awesome. They run through the feed plant animation, except they don't feed the plant, they just tease it with the food thing.