More Awesome Than You!

Ok, so there are mods to enable Skilling on Community lots, but is there one to disable Skilling on Residential lots?

In my game, the rule is, you get what your given - i randomise there skills at birth, and i want there skills to stay like that throughout life. but this means they can't do certain things like paint or swim or play chess because this will break my rule. i know i could just not buy those items, but then i've got to think about enthusiasm aswell - like, if someones predestined hobby is cooking - everything cooking related gives skills! (atleast, until you get afew enthusiasm points, then you can just blog it or someyhing, but still!)

so, has someone made anything like this? or maybe one of you might give it a go?

About the best I've been able to do in that instance is use the autonomy controller from the Armory to stop my sims from autonomously doing things.

It doesn't stop them from jumping rope and watching the cooking channel - but you can - nor does it stop them from gaining skills should they use a skill-building item. But it helps as long as you use it to avoid letting your sims do things that build skills.

Grammar day has arrived, and you have been found severly lacking.

... i'm sorry, i wasn't aware this was a spelling test...

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DUDE, LOOK AT THE FUCKING CALENDAR.

Hooray! A butthurt victory already, and the day is still so young!


After some debate, I decided to let that last ellipsis stand, though I'm open to suggestions and corrections.

ok, why does it matter how i type? i'm just typing how i'd speak in real life. and i mean, it's not like i'm typing in text chat or whatever it's called, and you can understand what i'm saying, right? and as for capitals... why bother? it's not like it changes the sound if a word, so it shouldn't make a difference

i don't understand... ? what about it?

TODAY IS GRAMMAR DAY. Duh. The grammar police are always patrolling MATY, but inevitably people who abuse the English language still manage get away with doing so. Except on Grammar Day.

Now repent your grammar mongling, and go forth to mongle grammar no more.

i don't really care about your stupid little website holidays or whatever and i will type how i want, and if i make afew mistakes, so what? dosn't bother me
i joined for some sims help, and so far 1 person has tryed to help.

if i was bothered about "grammar day" i'd say sorry. but i'm not, so i wont. and i'm not going to start typing with capitals, making sure if i'm using the right "there/their" or any thing else like that for you

If you can't be bothered to at least attempt to type and interact like a person older than 6 who doesn't have Assburger's, why should we bother to help you?

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Yeah. But that one person is seriously regretting it.

Ahem. With MATY, you sign up for the whole package - or nothing. Your lack of capital letters - it killed the Grammar kitteh. It's not just about Grammar Day (well, maybe it is, but let's just assume it's not), it's about not sounding like an illiterate, lazy jerk. Oh, and you want help with your game ? Try not to sound like a 12 so much, maybe then someone will feel inclined to help you out.

Holy Hannah. What do they teach at school these days ?

Edit: Darn, why are others always typing faster ?

oh, so i'm acting like a disabled 6 year old because i don't want to be harassed by someone i don't know over spelling? for all you know i could be disabled or slow and you think it's ok to say things like that to people you don't know. that's mature.
and what do you mean "we"? if you don't wanna help people who don't double check there posts that's fine, but most people don't care, and would help anyway.

well, i didn't know about "the whole package" i didn't know you had a stupid little calendar. i don't see how i'm acting like a jerk? i just wanted to ask a question, and i get all this.

It is totally OK to say "things like that" to people we don't know. It's also OK to say them to people we DO know.

Are you disabled or slow? PLZ do share details so we may mock you easier.

ok, i see now... that's the kinda person you are...
and no, i'm not.

Stop double posting! The "Modify" button and "Insert Quote" button exist for a reason! Another general bit of advice: your SHIFT key is obviously functional. Start using it.




You are in our house on our most holy day. You will partake in the sacrament or you will be burned in effigy.

why? that's like a catholic girl talking her muslim boyfriend to church, and then the priest comes over and slaps him for not celebrating christmas

and i don't use the shift key, because i prefer the look of lower case, i don't care if it's not proper grammar, i think it looks nicer

- and, as far as i'm concerned, you are that kind of person if you think it's ok to treat strangers like crap, because that was the kinda person i was referring to. and although i've not been to respectful here, that's because i don't respect people who don't respect me.

It is more difficult to read and makes you look like an imbecile. If that is what you are comfortable with, then I suppose it is fitting.

Yet you claim to not be a retard? Sorry, you phail.

Go forth and shit on another lawn.

It looks retarded.

more difficult to read?? it's just as easy to read, you just don't like it because i'm not doing what you want.

and how is having an opinion retarded? i like lower caps, so what?

Thanks for playing, even though you still don't get it!

i get that - i don't want to take part in grammar day, and get called a retarded jerk for it.

Ooh. The truth behind the rebellion comes out.

it's what i've been saying all along...

Come back tomorrow. I'm sure we'll appreciate your speshul posting style then.

Supersimoholic, has the bickering gotten you anywhere?  Has it solved your issue?  You are a guest on these forums, which is no different than being a guest in someone's house.  Respect the rules.  You are fighting a fight that you cannot win, and by doing so you are showing how "more awesome than you" everyone else is.

Give it up, let it go, and get back on topic.  Which, by the way, I know of no hacks to stop skilling.  I suppose one could be made, but why?  As others have stated, you can cancel your sims from skilling.  Now, simmer down (no pun intended).  That kitty looks pretty damn pissed, and I wouldn't want to mess with it.

Yes. See how well non-participation has worked out for you, you retarded jerk?

well, if she had come in and explained to me that it was "grammar day" and then pointed out my faults, instead of writing it like an insult, i wouldn't have acted this way, i would have put abit of effort into it. but i thought she was just being rude to me for no reason, so obviously i got offended, and when i tried to stand up for myself, people started resorting to petty name calling. i don't see how im in the wrong here. like you said, i'm a guest and if you'd treated me like one, i would have acted like one.

Fixed.

Translation: I'm a dirty liar because I claim I'd have changed my behavior, but I haven't yet, despite being chastised thoroughly, so obviously that's a dirty lie (or possibly I have the Assburgers).  Furthermore, I'm totally in the right because when someone acts like a tard on a board and people dogpile that person, the tard is clearly the victim, despite acting in a tardly manner.  Oh and P.S., if you'd all been super sweet and nice to me, I totally would have changed my behavior, except that I haven't yet, so obviously that's a total lie, too.  But you should all be super sweet and nice to me anyway, because then more people would want to come to MATY.

Conclusion: It is obviously a complete idiot, or else it thinks MATYans are stupid.

i wasn't expecting "super sweet and nice" just not rudeness.
and no, i haven't changed because that would be a sign of respect, which i've already said, i only give to those who give it to me.

i'm not a "dirty" liar. i would have changed it if i wasn't insulted first.

THIS IS SPARTA MATY! Have you READ the forum at all before you barged in, fouling up the place with your tardly stink?


You continue to make yourself look full of utter and epic FAIL, so I wouldn't hold my breath on the "respect" front if I were you. On second thought...

I'm getting tired of having to post butthurt macros, so please imagine one here.

Dirty, dirty liar.

P.S. No one was rude to you.  A simple post was made correcting your myriad grammar and mechanical errors, which advised you that you had been found severely lacking in the grammar department.  That's no rudeness; it's a simple statement of fact.  If you get all up in yourself over someone pointing out an area of weakness, you're going to have a lot of trouble once you get into college and the real world.

Edit: Drat you, Grimma, for getting there faster than me with the Red Pen of Doom.

ok. from my point of view, this is how it seemed (in short) -

me: hey can i have some help?
you guys: i'm gonna correct you because your stupid
me: didn't know this was a spelling test
you guys: look at the calendar, because even though your new i expect you to know about it
you guys 2: i win because you don't use capitals
me: i don't understand why people are bugging me about grammar on a help forum
you guys: it's grammar day, a made up holiday that were gonna force on you even though all you wanted was help
you guys 2: now say sorry to us even though you didn't do anything
me: i didn't know about grammar day, you don't have to be so rude, i'm not going to say sorry
you guys: oh yeah, well your retarded
you guys 2: and a jerk
me: so i'm a retarded jerk now just because you cant get your own way
you guys: yeah, i treat everyone like crap and think its acceptable
you guys 2: you have to do whatever we say because you just have to because it's not like this is just a forum and i'm not a complete ass
me: um... ok... yeah, you are, but i'm not gonna say that because i have manners. and i like to spell like this
you guys: no it's too hard to read, well, not really we're just saying that because we cant get our own way
you guys 2: just gonna carry on name calling because it makes us look *soooo smart* and not pathetic or petty at all
me: all i wanted was some help, not to be harassed
you guys: what are you arguing for, we're obviously right! act like a guest and do what your told
you guys 2: yeah, retard
me: maybe if you weren't such asses about it i would have done what you wanted
you guys: your a retarded liar and i'm gonna take the piss out of you now.
me: i just don't want to be treated like shit for no reason.

and then you say no one was rude to me?

Since you love hyperbole, try this on for size instead:

You: o hay guise im gona totely post on this forum and look like an idiot coz i wilfully refuse to follow rules of written english even tho this is totely a text medium
MATY: Try using the rules of grammar, k?
You: screw you guise i dont liek teh rules of gramer coz i liek teh way it looks wen i rite liek a tard
MATY: Yeah, well, we think you're a retard.
You: whine, whiney mcwhinercakes
MATY: Now we really think you're a retard.

Or, alternately, for something a touch closer to reality:

You: o hay guise i need help can u plz helps meh
MATY: We'll be happy to help you, but you need to understand that one of the rules of this forum is that we require all posters to utilize proper grammar.
You: i don't LIKE proper grammar i think capitals look stupid and i want to use ellipsis all over the place whether its appropriate or not and screw your apostrophe and full-stops at ends of sentences
MATY: Okay, well, then prepare to be considered a retard and made fun of accordingly.
You: WAH im not a retard but what if i really was a retard would you talk like this to someone who really had the assburgers
MATY: Yes.
You: whine whiney mc whinercakes
MATY: Now we really think you're a retard.

You see?  So I'll tell you what: you start posting with proper grammar, including capitals and apostrophes and full-stops, and we'll start treating you with respect.  You have to EARN respect at MATY, Tardoholic.  It isn't just given.

Edit to add:


Hi, welcome to MATY!  That's pretty much S.O.P. around here.

I shall repeat what I said earlier, since it is evident that you are unable to either read or comprehend what you read:

THIS IS SPARTA MATY! We're not here to coddle your precious little feelings! Your blathering, nonsensical , butthurt bawling is pointed and laughed at with derision and scorn, because you are a fucking idiotic retard.

Grammar is important here at any time, but especially so on Grammar Day. Sporking is a sport. Whining just begets you more sporking.

In other words: Cry more, butthurt little emo whinebaby. Cry me a river.

actually, if someone had said something like this, instead of insulting me and calling me names, i would have been happy to add capitals and make sure i use the proper punctuation, but they didn't. "we would be happy to help you" wasn't what i got from "retarded jerk idiot"

on the first post, you guys could have just said "Hey, grammar is kind of important here. Next time, could you be a bit more careful with your spelling?" or even "Hey. Here everyone has to use proper grammar. It's a rule." instead of "Oi idiot. I felt like correcting you for no reason. You did this, this and this wrong. Bye." which, to me, is how it seemed because no one told me i had to use proper grammar, and then you started to demand it from me.

Now, I'm a very stubborn person. The fact that you wanted me to do this "just because" made me angry.

But, I know that if If I ever want any real help from this site (As it's probably the best place for help)
I'm going to have to comply.
But I'm not going to say sorry. I didn't deserve to be insulted the way I was.

Sure, we COULD have.  But in case you haven't noticed yet, this is MATY.  FFS, our motto is MOAR FIGHT.  How many times do we have to tell you WE DON'T DO THINGS THE NICE WAY HERE?


There's no "just because" to it.  IT IS A FORUM RULE.  It's the same as if you were to, say, walk into my house and start smearing feces on the wall or kick my dog. I would justifiably beat your ass if you did that.  And that's basically what you did here by refusing to follow our rule that proper English is required on our forum.


Yes, you did.

So far, this has been very entertaining. On a side note, would the grammar police officer be willing to help edit a book I am writing? :)

My biggest issue is punctuation, especially commas. I've never, quite, been able to get the hang of them.


Oh, and Merry Christmas!.

Well, I know that now, don't I. But I didn't before. I just thought it was like any other forum where your supposed to be nice or get kicked out.

No one actually said it was a rule, just something that was preferred.
And no, it's nothing like that.

I expected nothing less from you guys.

Fixed that for you.


Fixed that for you.


You came into our house acting inappropriately and expected not to get a beatdown. Yeah, it's exactly like that.

Is this retard really complaining that people were RUDE? Good lord. Of COURSE we were rude. We HATE you.

Thank you.

No one has to tell you.  It's in the rules on how not to post.  If you didn't read the rules and went forth with the expectations that this was just another tard-pampering forum like the BBS then it's your own fault.  Get over your mental block and accept that you brought this on yourself.  Learn from your mistakes instead of flapping your arms with indignation like some bratty 6 having a temper tantrum.

Something like this; you're learning.  Only, don't expect anyone here to care that you're not sorry, and don't assume it matters to anyone that you felt it wasn't deserved.  Thing is, you don't have to read the FAQ, you don't have to use proper grammar, and no one here has to treat you with respect because you didn't care enough to do so.  It's like going for a swim in shark infested waters despite the sign the says "no swimming!"  Who's to blame when you get your limbs torn off since you didn't think the warning was important enough to read?

You didn't lurk much, did you?

I'm a n00b, so perhaps I'm overstepping my boundaries here, but yes, you were told this. The FAQ is quite clear about using proper grammar, and if you couldn't be bothered to read the forum FAQ before posting, you deserve what you get, dipshit. (Not to mention the fact that no matter what 12s seem to think, reasonably correct grammar is not, in fact, optional.)

sum pleple ne're lernt :)

Here's the thing.  The education system is obviously made of fail if people start posting on the internet without the faintest clue how to capitalise, punctuate, and spell.  What you perceive as rudeness is actually the rest of the people picking up where your English teacher left off and teaching you the basics that you will need to get what you want.  If they're doing it whether you like it or not, that's too bad.  You can either rebel against this as you have done, or you can make the best of it and actually learn something.

Taking a few extra minutes to observe some simple rules is not a great hardship and makes things a lot better for you and everyone else.

Ok, don't worry, I wont complain about being insulted any more.
I did some proper lurking and see no one escapes...

So, anyway, back on topic -

Someone asked earlier why I want this hack. I want it because the way I'm playing at the moment is that I randomise their skills as soon as I can (toddler).
I've done it like that so that Turn ons and offs will actually mean something, I wont have like nine Mayors and 13 Captain Heroes and not everyone will pass Uni, Sims will just have to take the skills they were given.

I know I could just "not use any skill items" like I said in the first post, but that means I cant have anyone be a painter for a living, or like I have this one guy who had a robotics shop, but now I have the "no skilling" rule he cant make any more robots or he'll earn skills :/

I would try and do it myself but I've tried tutorials and It's all to complicated for me! So maybe someone could look at this like a request?

How do your sims even cook, clean or repair things? They get skills from those too. Also, if you're trying to go for realism, no one is born with a set of skills that can never be improved upon. Why not have them pursue what they're naturally good at? For example, someone who rolls a 7 in creativity can become a painter. So what if they eventually maximize the skill? That's what would HAPPEN in the real world, practice makes you BETTER. Instead of looking for a hack to suit your rather odd way of playing, why not try to improve upon it so it'll actually work with what's there? This is very much a constructed problem.

Well, one way to approach this is to look at the constants which say how many ticks are required per percent of skill gain (conveniently named Tuning - Ticks per 1% skill gain).  There are three tables of values so I'm guessing that these are for skills, enthusiasm, and badges.

These values are different per skill level, which is why it takes such a short time to get a skill to level 1 from nothing, and such a long time to get it from 9 to 10.

Obviously if you wanted it to be practically impossible to gain new skills or badges you could adjust these numbers upwards.

I have posted a hack (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,17673.msg510276.html#msg510276) on Peasantry just now that may slow skill and badge increases down to a time-dilated crawl.  It's safe enough to use, but hasn't been tested.  It may not actually work.  If it does, then great.  I have tested it for myself and it seems to work as intended.

As I've said in the post there, it won't stop you from getting random increases from chance cards.  Something to keep in mind, though I guess you can cancel those when they come up.

I know I could just not do it that way, but it's how I want to play. And I just thought there'd be no harm in asking.
I'm not going for realism, just a way for my sims to be different from each other, without me deciding who will be a winner or a looser.

@Marvin: Thanks! This works great! ^^

looser: adjective.  Opposite of tighter.
loser: noun. Person who sucks. See also: supersimoholic.

Oops, thought it looked a bit funny  ::)