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Title: Active Sims are double
Post by: JoWe on 2009 December 02, 11:45:53
Hello

my probem is that my game uses existing Sims as homeless townies, I think its since WA or the latest Patch.
Now I´ve the following constellation in my acual family.

My Simwife ist knowing the same kollegue three times.
My Simman is knowing his doughter, which still live in my actual household, a second time.
Also with the doughter sign under her picture but with low friendship and no traits known.

Now I´ve had invited her, bet her to move in, take her out over the neightbourhood and deleted her out of the clipboard. Now my Simman only knows his really dooughter as a friend under the friendshippage and she´s gone in the familytree. The other family members stay like before with her except the familytree.

Another situation, a few game saves before, she is under the homeless in the neighborhood but not known by any member of my active family.

In this situation When I delete her or all homeless with SuperComputer the family relationships and friendships gone between the right doughter and her family. She is only known as a friend under the friendshippage and is gone in the familytree.

Is there a solution to solve this?

Greetz


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: nanacake on 2009 December 02, 13:44:03
Because I realize you are ESL, and tried to write this request in a decent attempt I want to try to help you.

First, are you using Awesomemod? It would fix most of your problems by preventing duplicate sims. The SuperComputer isn't made/supported from this website I'm not quite sure what it may have done.

Now I´ve had invited her, bet her to move in, take her out over the neightbourhood and deleted her out of the clipboard.

When you move a sim out and they release to clipboard I am pretty sure their relationship status is reset with the world. Is it like she was just created in CAS now? I don't think you can repair the family tree relationships without some mod after that.


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: JoWe on 2009 December 02, 14:50:19
I´ve used Awesome till WA, not at the moment.

Yes I know SC isn´t supportet by this website, I only want to discibe what I´ve done ;)

The Sim I moved out was the one the game dublicated.
I thought, even if the Sim is double in my friendslist, they must be two different Sims. But it seems they share something, because after deleting the dublicated, the original lose friendships and familystatus.

I think they lose friendships and more after moving them from clpboard to the family library but not moving to clipboard and back to the world. Nevermind, I´ve deleted her from the clipbaord so she lost her life ;) But the original one should stay uneffected from this action, right?

Sry for my bad English, my motherlanguage is German.


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 December 02, 16:16:59
Select the "real" version of the fambly that appears to have duplicates, and type "nukeimpostors". This should purge the False Dopplegangers from the neighborhood.


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: JoWe on 2009 December 02, 17:55:23
I tried that and the result is the same. The Sim is removed from the friendship list of every Sim in the household and the familytree. In her familytree she is the only one and outgreyed ;(


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 December 02, 18:13:16
I'm not sure you did it right, then. Make sure you're selecting the fambly you want to KEEP. Then, type "nukeimpostors", and a number of false sims should be burned from the neighborhood. The duplicates should then be gone. If they persist, and you can't find them in the neighborhood, there's always the option of the more drastic "destroyalltownies", which will wipe out the homeless population. If you CAN find them in the neighborhood, just trash them.

Other than that, I'm not sure I understand what else the problem is.


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: JoWe on 2009 December 02, 18:19:24
I´m actually in the household I want to keep. Type the command and get the message that one Sim has nuked. The one I want to take stays at the household and I can play her. But the friendships and familytree has gone.


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 December 02, 18:24:41
That is very strange, then. If you did not save these changes, you can send me the save and I will take a look and see what is happening.


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: JoWe on 2009 December 02, 18:48:00
I tried it now with another household and it worked fine. I didn´t save and restart again and look at the freindships in this households. The woman knows her man twice one as her man and one as a friend.
In an older savegame, as I discribed in my first post, my simman in my primar family knows his doughter twice as doughter, maybe this is the problem.
Nevermind wich data did I need to send to you?


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: OC on 2009 December 03, 17:46:02
I got a similar problem. But it only happened on the sims back from an adventure.
Things I noted:

- sims back from adventure have been generated a Double, and the Double will be considered as "homeless" (at least that's how twallan calls it)

- everything seems normal until twallan's SuperComputer clears out the "homeless". that deletes the Double, and also cuts off the Real sim's connection to everyone.

- the Real sims will then have no family. everyone becomes friends only. their family tree panel got no one else but only themselves, with their picture grayed out, like dead sims.

Well I sent those sims out on adventure when AwesomeMod for WA was still in beta.
Not sure if things have been fixed during the moment.   ;)


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: JoWe on 2009 December 03, 21:58:32
OK, today I had another idea;) I married my doubled Sim with her boyfriend, who lives also in the houshold, so she will get a new familyname.

After the command "nukeimpostors" I´ve got the same result, she lost the friendshipstatus, the family members arre only friends now, and lost the familytree, only she is there and greyed out.

Restart the gamesave , marry again and move to another house over the phone, than the command "deatroyalltownies", because there is now no other option, there are no doubles because of the new familyname, gives the same result, she lost her family, they are only friends (OK friends are sometimes more than the family ;)
and in her familytree she is shown up allone and greyed out.

Her new husband is shown as husband in the friendshipslist, all others are friends, her father, mother, sister.

Pescado if you want to look in my savegaame tell me wich data I need to send.


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 December 05, 18:44:31
I have updated it with a new nukeimpostors that should be able to catch crosslinked genealogy entries, and uncouple them before purging the impostor, so that this doesn't happen. I was able to expunge your impostor without breaking the fambly linkages in the test game you sent, so it should work now.


Title: Re: Active Sims are double
Post by: JoWe on 2009 December 06, 15:39:11
Worked great Thx  ;)