More Awesome Than You!

..in the form of small signs. Available here:
http://www.toolregame.com/forums/thread-575.html (http://www.toolregame.com/forums/thread-575.html)

I have tried them out, works well as far as I can see.

I can't imagine how anyone would need this.

To build your own city/village/whatever with? You know, themed hoods ect. Very popular with many simmers.

Or, if someone wanted to stick all the rabbit holes on a lot where it doesn't interfere with anything to free up space for worthwhile buildings.

Maybe a lack of imagination is the problem! :)

I can imagine using at least some of those, definitely. While I actually do like many of the rabbit hole buildings, seeing them over and over again gets very tiresome. I can see myself using these inside of other buildings that I have built to my specifications. Thanks for posting about them!

im prone to not belive this. Why bother making them rabbit holes, only to make them not-so in the first expansion 5 months later? It whould be more efficient just to unlock them from the beggining...
And if this is true...im sure its like OFB. Plot down plants and sculptures, maybe a small tv... and mark it for sale. Sims come and buy them, then their inventories are spammed with 25 Tvs and 67 Potted plants. But if they need groceries or books they still need to go to the black hole that is Devisarado Books (or whatever its called)

EDIT: Sidonzo at the sims 3 forum posted his idea, which makes way more sence and is probly what the original interpretaion meant.:
THIS is what i am sure is gonna happen.. objects that only apear when you enter the special....code thing...to unlock tomb building... it will also unclock special sellable items that you can set up and sims will buy. Another point againt all rabbit holes opening is all the existing rabbit holes are also jobs...so what will happen to the sims that work there? Either disapear and become invisable..or EA will have to actualy make animations and stuff for there jobs...which i KNOW isnt gonna happen.
I also hear Kataku or whatever...the site that posted that info..isnt to reliable..so..

I am also skeptical, but if it's true, it wouldn't be the first time EA has had to turn tales and run in a feature they put into a Sims game. Many people hate the rabbit holes. Or perhaps EA had plans of making non-rabbit hole lots all along and decided they'd make a great selling feature for an expansion pack. It wouldn't be the first time that kind of thing has happened, either.

Registration only? Blah. I'd like them, because I like customizing how my town looks, but I don't want to register.

Rabbit Holes are not going away, they are merely adding the ability to have non-rabbithole-based stores as well. Of course, with finite lotspace, that is not necessarily great. As for why RabbitHoles, well, that's simple: Their PRIMARY function is as a career. Haven't you noticed how every rabbithole hosts a career? Since making your sims VISIBLY at work is purposeless and computationally expensive, rabbitholes exist for that purpose.

I must concur on the "Registration" bit, I have enough jun kmail as it is.

Is this uploaded elseware?

Also, is it worth it? I can certainly see the benefits of having them.

They still aren't homeless. Sims who are present/available in town need a home-lot. And you can already pretend to play homeless Sims by letting them sleep on benches; it's more "appropriate" than tents too.

Experiments with that have indicated that it is certainly possible to armtwist the game into accepting true homelessness, though.

Really? How? I guess giving a household an invalid lot id would be to simple.

And even if an household is truly homeless, they still won't act like homeless bums when uncontrolled. Seems kinda pointless to me.

These were the things that excited me, the deathtrap possibility of more ways to die, and bigger fish tanks.

For those of you that would rather not register.

http://rs378.rapidshare.com/files/289832056/SignMeshes.zip (http://rs378.rapidshare.com/files/289832056/SignMeshes.zip)

or

http://www.4shared.com/file/138250865/d3f5d11d/SignMeshes.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/138250865/d3f5d11d/SignMeshes.html)

Thanks for the download, Gelina.

Anyone try the signs yet? Do they work well for creating custom career buildings?

I put all of the signs on a lot last night and demolished the rabbit holes they replaced. I did not build any buildings for the sims to go inside of yet. The signs work just fine. The only problem I had is that my sims in the family I was playing would not go to school anymore. I haven't tested the school with a new family.

The site added another 5 signs, now covering all the rabbit holes. They have also added smaller versions of the diner sign.

I have tested some of them, and successfully built new custom buildings for diner, bistro and food store. It's a little tricky to place the signs so they are not blocked, easiest is to play test extensively while building. But other than that they work great. Twallans custom careers stick to them, and work fine.

Links to other 5 signs:

http://www.4shared.com/file/138477093/8253b19b/MoreSigns.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/138477093/8253b19b/MoreSigns.html)

or

http://rapidshare.com/files/290234561/MoreSigns.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/290234561/MoreSigns.zip)

I haven't tried it yet, but from the screenshots on the site it appears that, yes, you build whatever you want, and then strategically place one of the signs to designate the building as a particular rabbit hole.

What the hell was jared_smithson's wall of text? ???
Anyway, I tried to use the signs. Happily abolished the City Hall for a smaller town hall. I discovered that the "entry point" spawns in different places, but it's always beside the sign. So you can make a sign, have its entry point not behind it (but not directly behind the sign), and then place a door (like in the screenshot at the site) beside it. What happens is that the sims will enter the door before disappearing. Neat.  :D

Yeah thats what you can do. Build a house around it. I placed the bistro sign so it appears as they vanish when they enter the door of the Inn. Works great. They either eat "inside" (invisible) or get the food and then sit down either inside or outside - makes the place look like a restaurant :D. I have a foosball-game inside and a bar, and sims flock there, then eat in the bistro when they get hungry.

i wanna see some pictures before i download

The original site closed their downloads, but these are now uploaded at MTS, with pics:
http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=376414 (http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=376414)

I downloaded the community lot only versions of these earlier off MTS, but I can't seem to find them anywhere now. (As I just found a residential purpose for them of course) MTS is showing that Mel has no downloads whatsoever and has 8 recent downloads at the same time. I'm not sure what is up with that, but none of those downloads listed are these now.

Just wanted to let anyone know in case they were lost in trying to find these from the MTS link.

I have no issue finding /most/ of her stuff, but you're right, the rabbitholes have vanished. o.0 ... I wonder what happened.

The thread is back now. Maybe she fixed something?

I have a doubt, can we remove (demolish) parks and rabbit holes? Would that affect beautiful vista? Thanks

None of the rabbit-hole lots have a beautifull vista.

You can add Beautiful Vista buff to any lot, using this tool:
http://www.modthesims.info/d/366436 (http://www.modthesims.info/d/366436)

Very handy when using downloaded lots.

Thanks people. Now I can download ingeli's beautiful lots and replace the original ones!!! YAY!!!

Hello scary Necro guy!

I thought people would like to know about some more Rabbit hole objects that aren't ugly, and overly complicated, signs. Why create a new thread when there is already one? I do not know how well they work, but they certainly look better. They just used to original ones and changed them up a little.
http://www.customsims3.com/smf/index.php/topic,1931.0.html

Thank you, Morriganrant. The rabbitholes by Melissamel, linked earlier, have an issue with me regarding placement and routing. She hasn't been active on MTS to answer the question I posted, but many of her signs won't place without being in a lot nearly as large as the original rabbithole object. I was going to strain my feeble brain and learn how to do the footprints and routing for objects to make my own set. You may have just saved me the work. *goes to test*

ETA: Yes! They work very well indeed. You do still have to be a tiny bit careful about placement, so that the sim can have a half dozen steps toward the arrows with no interference to access the rug, and one side needs to be open. But the stadium and the military base (the ones needing the biggest area in Melissamel's rabbithole objects) placed easily in small buildings.

These are another very nice addition: http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=391737&goto=newpost&postedt=1#post3075318

Recolors of the original EA rabbitholes in Tudor style.

These really are exactly what I was waiting for. I absolutely love that they still work when hidden underneath another rug, too!