More Awesome Than You!

This is not a technical doo-hickey. More of a social/genetic one.

(http://nihale.simshost.com/images/The_Whole_Darn_Lot.PNG)

This is the entire freakin' town! (With exception of the Bennetts, Pleasants and a couple of misplaced spouses...)

NoTownieRegen does work with NL, right? - I want to advance this little English village a couple of generations, even if it means having to use some of the ugly as sin morons that are townies (If DC is reading this, I'm sorry...), without risiking another BFBVFS..

What should I do?

No Townie Regen works. Reports say it even stop downtownie spawns.

I don't see the problem with that picture, though, other than that it must have taken major photoshopping to get that much on screen at once, since that's not how it normally looks.

Yeah, how'd you do that?

Four families were really not enough to start a whole town with, if your intention was to have them interbreed and never add new blood.

If it were me I would continue breeding them just to see how messed up the tree can get. Other than that, your only option may be to add more sims to the neighborhood. Townies are just TOO ugly to use.


Lots and lots of cutting and pasting in Photoshop. :D

I do it for all my families and have done it for all the Maxis families. It does take a lot of time if the tree is complicated. You wouldn't believe what it took to get the Curious-Smith-Singles household sorted out into one tree.

Sounds like a project is waiting for me to  happen...

Here's my Curious-Smith-Singles tree. This was the best that could be done under the circumstances.

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c129/saramkirk/curioussmithsingles.jpg)

That's awesome!

The dark haired girl to the right of PT9, who is she? I don't remember seeing her on my tree. And if she's a maxis made character, what was the point? She didn't contribute to the gene pool, so why is she there ???

Does this remind anyone else of that song "I'm my own grandpa?"

That's Glabe Curious, Glarn's first wife, who was left to raise the Singles alone after Glarn selfishly abandoned the family to pursue a relationship with Kitty. She didn't contribute to the genepool but she is part of the family history and in order to be complete I felt like she had to be included. She also serves the purpose of showing that Glarn was not married to Kitty when he had the Singles.

okay, that makes sense, I never looked that closely at the Siingles family tree. I always thought PT9 raised the girls, silly me :D Very nice tree BTW

She isn't actually on anyone's tree, since she isn't related to anyone living. She is a "lost" sim that most people don't even know about. It's only by browsing memories, character files, and screenshots, that you can piece together who she is and how she fits in. The clues are all there though.

I have too much time on my hands, don't I?

I think it's awesome, you ever think about a career as a detective? ;D I think this kind of background info makes the game characters more interesting.

I had a hard time figuring out the Singles and Curious family tree.  Someone said that they were related, and I was trying to figure out how.  It seems messed up to me that not only did PT#9 and Glarn Curious have two kids together (did they have a Preg4All hack??  Maybe it was the TL&D  ::)), but then PT#9 married one of Glarn's kids!  Is that not messed up??  Even though they aren't technically related, it seems somewhat incestuous to me.

It does look very wrong on the family tree, doesn't it?

By the way, this is exactly why I made all the family trees. When you don't see everyone laid out on one page, it's very difficult to understand the relationships. The way the tree works, where you click one sim and it causes several others to vanish from view, makes it really hard to use as a tracker for actual family relationships.

I seriously have to do one of these for my sims...

Thanks for making that up, SaraMK.  I wish I had that when I started playing Strangetown.  I edited the family ties in SimPE so that Lola and Chloe are siblings of the Curious brothers and so Chloe wouldn't want to flirt with her half brothers!

Brynne, whenever you get around to making a family tree for your sims, I definitely want to see it!  I have a hard time remembering who is related to whom, and who is married to whom, etc.

I'm working on one, now...

The idea in the Maxis story is that PT #9 was originally a regular Pollination Technician, so that was how Glarn acquired Chloe & Lola, and then he retired to his favourite planet. Quite why he married one of Glarn's other kids, I have no clue.

I'm an amateur genealogist so I use my genealogy program to set out the family ties/relationships etc.  In my poor Pleasantview that finally gave up the good fight about a week ago, I had gotten up to 7 generations of sims.  I couldn't do dates of birth as I had no way of tracking but I did have house listed under birth location & attendees at weddings etc just like a proper family tree.  I had more details on those sims lives than I do on my own ancestors lol.  I printed out reports 'n stuff to keep track but I wouldn't have the patience to do what you have done SaraMK - it looks really nice.

Heh, if you use my Lot Clock, you CAN keep track of date of birth. :P Even if you didn't note exactly when they were born, you can back-date them once you install the clock based on the listed age of the sim.

Sorry JM but it wasn't invented when I started and after the four generations I sort of thought it wasn't worth starting. 

I have however started my new Pleasantview and the lot Clock is now on every occupied lot proudly displayed at the front of the house - it works like a dream.  btw I love having the ability to switch between my lots without having to wait for the neighbourhood to load and then load the new lot.

I have re-ocurring nightmares about the family tree of my main family.  I've been trying to put it together for about a year now and each time it makes my brain sizzle.

This is about a quarter of it, at 4% zoom using a geaneology program....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/jorenne/Personal/tree.jpg)

It looks like you have two females born from one female with no father. Is that the "Just Eve" scenerio? :P

Um, not exactly lol.

That was the CAS start of it all (Well one side of it anyway) Single mom, twin girls, spiralled outta control a little when three romance males came of age.....

How can you tell?  All I can see is a bunch of tiny boxes and a bunch of lines.   ???

The top node is a pink square, the following nodes are two more pink squares and it spreads out from there.

I still need to do this. I'm scared.  :P

Oh I see.  I wasn't looking at the colors.

I could barely make out colors, either. I see them now. *squints*

Have you tried putting in the relationships that didn't end up with kids?  I started doing that and well, I can be quite silly at some times :'(.  On the plus side though, you must have some great stories with all of those relationships

That is every sim, living or dead who has a familial link with anyone else on the tree whether through birth or marriage, even if no children were produced..  I started with Raisa and her twin daughters, Alesky and Tatyana on one side, and Louisa and Michael and their son, Cletus, on the other.

It wasn't too bad for a while.  But then Cletus married Natalija (Alesky's daughter) and she's a family sim, they have eight children together (two adopted) plus two Natty had from her first marriage, plus three Cletus had from his first marriage, plus four from an affair (Bad Clete)  It all went totally awry when Clete's oldest son, Sam, aged and became a romance sim.

To date Sam is onto Mrs Jones number four (that's just the one's he's married) and is the proud father of 26 children.

The mind boggles glancing at some of those trees!  ;)

This thread together with another about the Tricou family has inspired me to start a little in game mystery story, starring Mortimer Goth as the mad scientist/detective. I believe one of his ancesters in a Tricou. Anyway, this will no doubt lead to many zombies and confusion on my part...
Hmm, perhaps the premise needs a little work... but the bizarre pre-made families always draw me in...

I'm going to have to start mapping the family trees now, before things get out of hand.  I'm at the third generation in some families (Dustin and Beau have children), and so far only the Goths and Dreamers are connected by blood.  The Brokes and Pleasants are connected by marriage (Brandi and Mary-Sue), but there is no issue.  I'd rather not have anyone become his own gran'paw, if only to save my own sanity. 

I have family trees for the sims i play- although just done in paint and paint.net, as i cant really justify buying photoshop just for my sims family trees. Means they arent as good as the ones above, but it helps me keep track.

Lot Clock? How is it that I've never heard of this magical thing and why can't I find it ? :(
Anyone?

It's called the Lot Sync Timer (I'm not commenting on the rest of the name  :P), and it can be found here (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=2386.0).

I'm a bit confused about what that actually does. If I use it, and it is installed in multiple homes, does that mean it is the same time on all of those lots? What is it synchronizing? What is the Matrix? Is there a spoon? Does a bear shit in the woods?

In the thread I linked, Odyssey has a really good explanation as to what exactly it is.


And no, it's not the same time on the lots.  It's simply to help you synchronize your neighbourhood, so one family is not several generations old, and another started at the same time is still not out of the first gen toddler stage.

Ahh...see, even reading the f'ing manual I was confused. I get it...finally.

Don't forget the cool feature allowing you to switch to a neighbor's house without going through the neighborhood screen.  Even with NL awesome new feature of clickable neighbor houses, I still have to scroll around sometimes trying to find the house I want.  This is better and automatically saves your game.  The only problem I have is with all the kids moving out and having the same last name as the parents now, so I have like 6 Goth households now, 3 Brokes, and 2 Williams, etc., and they haven't all graduated college yet.  I wish there was some way to keep track of that part.

Theoretically, that's what the lot and family ID's are for.

Do you use SimPe? If so, why don't you try renaming the households to something other than their surname but easy to remember. I've got 3 Tricou males in one household and I have called it "Tricou Boys".  I had Dirk move out of home & renamed his household "Dreamer II" so I know it is 2nd gen Dreamer etc

btw I love the neighbour house option as well. i spent half an hour once just flicking between houses - not out of any need but because I could :)

Yeah I know, but I can't remember all those numbers.  I'd have to end up writing them down, and that would be more paper cluttering my desk to keep up with.  :P  I might have to try renaming them in SimPE, if I can think of some brief, descriptive names.  I have started combining families, like one house has a brother and sister married to another brother and sister they were best friends with in college, if that makes sense.  Maybe I could name their house Goth-Rose or something like that.

I really wish there was a chance to rename households before moving them into the neighbourhood-it would be so much easier to keep track of who is who.

I started with naming them all with the same first initial.  One family would be Andrew Anderson, wife would be Andrea, kids, Andy and Amelia, then on to B and so on.  There was just to many affairs going on, I couldn't keep track of who was supposed to be doing who.

I use SimPE to rename my families. 

I was using a combination of surnames for each house (not renaming the sims, just the lot) to reflect the maiden name of the bride.  So if Angela married Dustin their house would be the Broke-Pleasant house.  It gave my hoods a small town gossipy feeling.  I grew up in a small town and people did use that information to identify people - "You know Dustin Broke ... yeah he's the Broke that married one of the Pleasant girls, didn't he do well for himself? ... anyways I heard..."

I've simplified it a bit since I started using Sims2db.  In my newer hoods I just rename my families Broke1, Broke2, etc.  If I want to play a particular branch of the family I just look up which branch it is in Sims2db, not that I do that a lot, I tend to be anal about my lot rotation order.  Since the lot sync timer was added to my game, I've dispensed with the notes on my desk listing lot rotation order and I just go clockwise around the timer.

thank you so much!

you clearly do not suck :D

No, Bluesoups do not suck. :)