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Title: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: lovemysims on 2005 November 20, 21:27:13
When I pay 5 grand for a date I want three bolts, and if she doesn't have a three bolt in the neighbor hood then she should say,I  don't have aperfect match for you, would you like a partial match instead, so I can stop wasting my money


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: radiophonic on 2005 November 20, 21:51:44
I think the Gypsy is misunderstood for the most part.

For the most part, she appears to be more usefull to romance and pleasure sims (eg. the "Have 50 First Dates" LTW and "Woohoo with 20 Different Sims"). I've used her mostly for comic relief to see who she drops when I give her $100 and attempt to have a decent date from there.  :P

I don't think she's the do-all alternative to finding your sim's "soulmate" (if it can be called that).



Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Baa on 2005 November 20, 21:53:08
The gypsy is wierd. I had an adult male who wanted to date the countess and it kept giving me a TEEN townie.

Uh, helloo.... that's illegal.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: radiophonic on 2005 November 20, 21:55:07
The gypsy is wierd. I had an adult male who wanted to date the countess and it kept giving me a TEEN townie.

Uh, helloo.... that's illegal.

Typically they are University Students and not teens (at least, that's the case here). If you want the countess, you'll have to go out and get her (or she'll get you).


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Motoki on 2005 November 20, 21:55:54
Uh she's a Maxis elder npc, of course she's nuts. Have we learned nothing from the nannies? ;)


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: magic cookie on 2005 November 20, 21:59:44
I sometimes paid 5000 to get a date who was REPELLED by my Sim.

Aah, so much for clairvoyance!


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 November 20, 22:06:58
After I pay her, I read the message she gives.  In my memory she does say she will see what she can do, and never actually pretend to give you the perfect date.

You are better off going on community lots and do some "scooping" instead.  Having 2 bolts is not bad, once the Sims move-in you can look at their turn ons/offs and simply change them so they match both Sims and 3 bolts will automatically appear.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: KLGFCG on 2005 November 20, 22:30:03
I'd love a hack that adds an extra dialog box for the Matchmaker... after the male/female thing, it should ask what age you want the date to be (maybe give an option for random if you really don't care). I haven't gotten a teen for an adult yet (rumors are that's InTeenimator related, but don't quote me there) but inevitably, my young family man looking to raise a family gets an elder female (no babies there) or a freshman in college (yeah, I COULD play four years for her so she's marriageable but if I wanted to do that, I'd be doing that instead of trying to get this loser hooked up). The matchmaker has been typically unrealiable but sometimes, she does hit on a great match that I would have never thought to do on my own. I don't despise her, but I wish there was a choice on the age of your date. ~KG


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: aussieone on 2005 November 20, 22:55:00
I usually give her a little less than half the maximum amount allowed and generally my dates don't turn out too bad.

However, I have, against me better judgement given her the 5000 simoleans once or twice and ended up with some atrocious dates!!!  :D


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2005 November 20, 23:06:29
I risked $5,000 for General Grunt today (who now resides in my new neighbourhood minus his kids and a great deal younger) and he was given a downtown teen.  There were bolt actions available, but their aspirations were totally opposed and all she wanted to do was play on his bass.  I exited out without saving and he managed to find someone downtown he had 2 bolts with.  In many ways that's better than 3, because with 3 they would starve before they'd leave each other alone.  At least with 2 they do manage to go to the toilet occasionally.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 November 20, 23:39:30
It sounds like a pretty realistic gypsy to me. Don't you know that the word "Gyp" is derived from "gypsy"?


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: dewshine on 2005 November 21, 02:59:42
I have an experience with the matchmaker too.  I had one sim give her 5000 for a date and get a 3-bolt match that led to a dream date.  He then caught her cheating with another sim and was rather pissed...  My other sim that gave the matchmaker 5000 for a date ended up getting food spilled on him 3 times and the date was a diaster.  I won't waste the time on her anymore.   ::)
When trying for a vampire did you try after it got dark? I've heard you can get one that way... not that I can prove anything.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Process Denied on 2005 November 28, 07:40:17
I have always gotten three bolts except for once and she was repelled by him.  I checked her turn ons and she had his hair color as a turn off and she liked stinky men(that she will not find in my town) and grey hair.  I tinkered with her wants and they turned to three bolts.  I don't think that the gypsy takes the turn ons/offs in consideration.  When you get teens as dates for adults,it's because you have Inteen.  I got Puck as a date for Isabella it didn't reach dream date cause-- duh.   But, because they kiss at the end of the date they got a crush on each other.  When he went to college,they did have three bolts for each other but yuck!!!!


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: MutantBunny on 2005 November 28, 22:50:45
I'd be happy if she'd just stay off my porch! Can you make her do that JM? If I want her services i'd call her!

ANd $5000 for a date?? Even a 'dream date' isn't worth that. (Well, maybe if you are Robert Redford and you want another man's wife.... ) Can you fix that? Why can't a dream date be priced realistically: a $100 bucks tops, afterall if you go to dinner it's gonna cost a lot more than that.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2005 November 28, 22:52:42
I'd be happy if she'd just stay off my porch! Can you make her do that JM? If I want her services i'd call her!
You've obviously never seen real gypsies or tried to keep them off anything. :P I could make them start stealing things...

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ANd $5000 for a date?? Even a 'dream date' isn't worth that. (Well, maybe if you are Robert Redford and you want another man's wife.... ) Can you fix that? Why can't a dream date be priced realistically: a $100 bucks tops, afterall if you go to dinner it's gonna cost a lot more than that.
I'm not bothered by the price, sims tend to have too much money anyway. Besides, didn't you know that the word "gyp" comes from "gypsy"?


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: BlueSoup on 2005 November 28, 22:56:52
It sounds like a pretty realistic gypsy to me. Don't you know that the word "Gyp" is derived from "gypsy"?

Besides, didn't you know that the word "gyp" comes from "gypsy"?

Deja vu, anyone?  :P

I've just been zapping the gypsy off the lot with TJ's zapper - works great.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: MutantBunny on 2005 November 28, 23:06:35
I guess I'll go on ignoring her until someone takes pity on us or learns to hate her too.....


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Charamei on 2005 November 28, 23:07:20
I don't even mind her appearing on my porch, except that the game hangs for a noticeable period when it's bringing her in even when she's already been generated; when it's a clean 'hood, it can take several seconds.

She's useless in a clean 'hood anyway. Who's she going to set me up with, herself?

"For $5000, I'll be your date tonight, deary..."

That's not matchmaking, that's whoring.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: MutantBunny on 2005 November 28, 23:18:41
LOL. Yes, it is isn't it? She would make a great pimp if 'tweaked' out a bit...I wonder if Danny has thought about this....


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Sagana on 2005 November 28, 23:28:34
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Besides, didn't you know that the word "gyp" comes from "gypsy"?

Ever consider welshing on a bet?

Edit: pfui


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 November 29, 04:39:13
I guess I'll go on ignoring her until someone takes pity on us or learns to hate her too.....
hmm the last two times I used the gypsy my sims paid Max and she did the unusual set them up with the right partners both have married their Blind Dates and one has  Twin Daughters you almost cant tell apart and is pregnant for the second time. the other couple are students at Uni both couples had instant 3 bolt chemistry.I think the gypsy is sick I'm used to disasters


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: witch on 2005 November 29, 07:54:05
One sim I had kept getting the countess. Each time, for three dates over several sim days. I don't know if the gypsy predetermines a sim for each asker, but I thought that was weird. These were the first few dates after I got NL so maybe it was the game trying to get the vamps into play as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 November 29, 12:51:47
yikes I'm glad  I never got the grand vampires :o


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Motoki on 2005 November 29, 13:44:29
Is it a bug that she always shows up community lots? You have to "greet" her too but she's the only sim I have ever seen that needed to be greeted on a community lot. I'm guessing if you could save the lot after it's been played she wouldn't come again, but since you can't whenever you enter it's always the first time it's played and so she comes. But still, they should have had enough sense to restrict her from community lots at least in her work capacity. If they made her a walk by or shopper that's one thing, but she just stands around spitting at her crystal ball waiting to be greeted.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Muisie on 2005 November 29, 16:40:01
I just noticed that her initial introduction has an escape clause reminding you that she sells potions to change turn ons and offs.  So I guess her plan is to give you someone who COULD be a potential soul mate IF you purchase a potion (or two). Ha!


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: witch on 2005 November 30, 05:18:58
I haven't seen the gypsy on downtown lots in a while, nor Ms Crumplebottom. I wonder if it's related to 2J's NPC zapper?


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Venusy on 2005 November 30, 07:18:46
Well, if you have it, then Mrs. Crumplebottom is always banned from downtown lots, unless you unban her. Not sure about the gypsy though.


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: skandelouslala on 2005 November 30, 08:03:08
It seems that no matter what you pay her over a couple thousand, the chance of getting a  2 bolt date is pretty high.  In my game she generally brings a one bolt date even if you pay her crap.  Changing the turn ons/offs of a sim will generally make a difference between  2 bolt and a 3 bolt.

A couple weeks after installing NL I figured out the changing of two bolt to three bolt via the turn on/offs was the easiest way to insure a three bolt couple..now their running wild in my 'hoods and I almost wish it was harder to get a couple with perfect chemistry.


The thing I hate the most is the fact that the damned gypsy shows up anytime you move a sim to a new lots...and she doesn't leave if you don't greet her.  She'll just wonder around the lot for hours on end.   I get the freakin point.  She can provide blind dates and provide potions..enough already!


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: MutantBunny on 2005 November 30, 18:57:14
My complaint with her exactly. She stands there for hours looking in your windows! How rude!


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: SIMplyLisa on 2005 November 30, 21:56:29
I like to take control of her and make her spin in the giant hamster ball til she pukes, then "dismiss" her!
I think its funny when she shows up on the community lot but can't enter without being invited! This should lower the restuarants five star rating if it has panhandlers out side its doors!


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: Bangelnuts on 2005 November 30, 22:08:16
I like to take control of her and make her spin in the giant hamster ball til she pukes, then "dismiss" her!
I think its funny when she shows up on the community lot but can't enter without being invited! This should lower the restuarants five star rating if it has panhandlers out side its doors!
I truly would like to strangle the gypsy right now. I just had my sim call up the gypsy fo a blind date my sim paid max and the stupid gypsy set her up with a Teen  :P so I have my sim take the date to good then end the date since it's a teen. I didnt want my sim getting in to deep . My sim ends the date and since the gypsy is still hanging around ask for a blind date figuring worst case scenario Pescado would end up as the blind date. so she pays again max and get another teenager. I had my sim end the date and go to bed


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: MutantBunny on 2005 November 30, 23:44:55
She is ripping everyone off and exploiting children. That's why we're here: reporting her to the better Business Bureau, I mean Pescado. She needs to be hacked up!


Title: Re: Can the Gypsy be fixed?
Post by: resin on 2005 December 15, 19:51:33
Hmm...so far I get only Repairmen! Three $5000 dates...three different repairmen, none of whom I've ever seen before.
In all of those cases I had an adult woman asking for a man and paying $5000. Does the gypsy generate a perfect match with CAS if she can't find one? If so, why are they all repairmen?? For that matter, they all seem to be perfect clones of the original sim (a lazy, fortune repairman for the lazy, fortune sim, etc.). That lends more credence to my CAS theory.

My one other date was a teen boy who paid about $3000. He got a perfectly nice date with a semi-compatible teen girl. So, for the moment at least, my own solution is to never pay the full amount.