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Title: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 26, 13:22:24 Just a little something to make it easier on the eyes for Firefox users. Copy this into a new Stylish (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2108) script. You can adjust the background colour or font settings for these scripts to your own liking.
#This is visual change that only affects the AwesomeConfig for those with Stylish installed. Blue Background (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2991/bluebackground.th.png) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bluebackground.png) Code: @namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml); Black Background. (http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9251/blackbackground.th.png) (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blackbackground.png) Code: @namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml); Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 26, 13:40:13 Persuade me that this is better than what I already have and tell me how to integrate this and I might consider it. Screenshots!
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Captain Swooptie on 2009 June 26, 16:25:02 This is what I got from it:
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/capnswooptie/aweconfig.png (http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss306/capnswooptie/aweconfig.png) Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: brownlustgirl on 2009 June 26, 16:32:11 ;D I like the pretty blue colors, but my eyes being as they are, smaller print does not help. Functionality trumps pretty. Nice job, anyway.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Exiled on 2009 June 26, 16:35:28 ;D I like the pretty blue colors, but my eyes being as they are, smaller print does not help. Functionality trumps pretty. Nice job, anyway. Add this to the Styish script: P {font-size:150%} I don't have FF so I can't test. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Heinel on 2009 June 26, 17:01:58 Also, serif fonts are easier to read than sans-serif
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 26, 18:12:32 Persuade me that this is better than what I already have and tell me how to integrate this and I might consider it. Screenshots! All you would have to do is change the background colour and possibly invert the font colours in whatever software you use to create the page. Colour choice is up to you. It's personal choice really. I simply dont like white pages. The only bright white light I wish to stare into is at the end of my days :P The fancy buttons that are shown in the screenshot above are done by the theme used on firefox or the OS the poster uses, I didnt touch those. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 26, 18:22:44 Bleh, but I like my white page. It's traditional. It gives it that crisp, sterile, purely-functional look.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 26, 18:54:30 Ok here is one that allows you to edit the font sizes of each section in percentages (saves messing with em or px). I've already set it to suit my own screen res, so adjust it for yourself, but this should take care of the small fonts on the descriptions. Change whatever you wish. However, keep in mind that with percentages, it will be a percentage of the parent setting, rather than a fixed size. If you dont want to use percentage, just change the % to px and specify the pixel size of the font.
Code: @namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml); Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: SimDebster on 2009 June 26, 20:15:55 I am running Firefox and I do not find the page hard on the eyes at all. I prefer the page white as it is and find your changes hard on the eyes.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: witch on 2009 June 26, 21:53:50 Also, serif fonts are easier to read than sans-serif I disagree, for me, the reverse is true. I also prefer black text on white page, although the white on blue is not too bad - certainly not when compared with the neon_on_black some web designers use, that's just criminal and makes me see coloured spots. I no longer bother to read pages in that format. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: laylei on 2009 June 26, 22:29:25 I am running Firefox and I do not find the page hard on the eyes at all. I prefer the page white as it is and find your changes hard on the eyes. I have to agree, I find the white background easy to look at, and the blue makes my eyes hurt. I like crisp, functional web pages. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: MasterDinadan on 2009 June 26, 23:02:11 It's not good enough that you have an Awesome config tool to adjust every detail of AwesomeMod.
And it's not good enough because of the colors? Maybe we need a config tool for the config tool. Would you be happy then? Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Wolfeyes on 2009 June 26, 23:49:40 I am running Firefox and I do not find the page hard on the eyes at all. I prefer the page white as it is and find your changes hard on the eyes. Ditto for me... as my eyes are a bit older than the average S3 Simmer... and the purely functional look is best... ;) ;D Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: witch on 2009 June 26, 23:56:32 ... as my eyes are a bit older than the average S3 Simmer... Don't bet on that round here. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: kimmyfrmtx on 2009 June 26, 23:58:41 Some people just have to complain about everything.
Don't like the decor you know how to find the door. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 27, 02:39:13 I don't think anyone here is suggesting a change to the page. It's all about personal choice and that is where Stylish is very handy. There are many different monitors, many different computers and many different people out there, all of which perform and perform differently, and prefer different things. Which is why you all disagree with each for various reasons. There is no Correct way, its simply preference.
If you guys want to keep the white page but wish to change font sizes, then take out the font and background colour changes in the script. While zoom page works for fonts, it doesnt allow for individual adjustment as in stylish. The main reason I wished to change the background colour, is because I spend many hours staring at this screen, and late at night my eyes get a bit tired, so looking at a bright white light in a dimly lit room gets a little much. Also at high res those fonts do get a little small. I posted this script here so others can make use of it in any way they wish. One of the many reasons i Prefer FF over hangy crashy IE. Google and IE got a similar treatment :) I guess for IE users, you could do much the same with a greasemonkey script. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: awrevell on 2009 June 27, 02:52:03 If you don't like what Pescado made, then make your own config page which will create the xml file and put it in a nice little package for you.
Then you can put out the money to pay for a forum somewhere else and post your neat colorful config tool which nobody here wants. Function trumps the hell out of fashion. We care that AWESOMEMOD works, that the config tool works and don't give a shit if the colors Pescado decided to use make your eyes bleed. Heck, I wouldn't care if they made my eyes bleed... I don't plan on looking at them for hours on end, but rather just long enough to do what needs done. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: witch on 2009 June 27, 03:03:19 That's harsh. The OP was offering to share something. Some are interested, some are not, but I understand their reason for posting it and there's nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 27, 03:26:50 If you don't like what Pescado made, then make your own config page which will create the xml file and put it in a nice little package for you. Then you can put out the money to pay for a forum somewhere else and post your neat colorful config tool which nobody here wants. Function trumps the hell out of fashion. We care that AWESOMEMOD works, that the config tool works and don't give a shit if the colors Pescado decided to use make your eyes bleed. Heck, I wouldn't care if they made my eyes bleed... I don't plan on looking at them for hours on end, but rather just long enough to do what needs done. Please read the post above yours. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: awrevell on 2009 June 27, 03:35:56 Witch, I wasn't aiming for harsh, merely blunt. Anach posted a suggestion which was commented on adversely by several people, including El Presidente.
I don't think anyone here is suggesting a change to the page. However, that is exactly what is being suggested by the person who posted that. When someone says "I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but here's how you are supposed to do that" it doesn't sit well with me. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: dilpill on 2009 June 27, 03:48:54 However, that is exactly what is being suggested by the person who posted that. When someone says "I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but here's how you are supposed to do that" it doesn't sit well with me. Then why the fuck are you at this website? Don't you take offense at the fact that there are mods here that change what EA made? Why don't you give Pescado the same shit you're giving Anach? Using your logic, he should make a new people simulator game from scratch because modifying the Sims is telling people "I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but here's how you are supposed to do that." ::)The fact that Anach posted a stylish script doesn't affect you AT ALL. He didn't tell Pescado to modify anything, he was simply offering something up for people to use. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: witch on 2009 June 27, 03:49:55 Witch, I wasn't aiming for harsh, merely blunt. Anach posted a suggestion which was commented on adversely by several people, including El Presidente. You've missed the point. The OP was saying, 'if you want to look at the page differently, here's how'. And please spare me the 'El Presidente said so' too, we've seen plenty of suckups before. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: altus on 2009 June 27, 03:55:21 However, that is exactly what is being suggested by the person who posted that. When someone says "I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but here's how you are supposed to do that" it doesn't sit well with me. Then why the fuck are you at this website? Don't you take offense at the fact that there are mods here that change what EA made? Why don't you give Pescado the same shit you're giving Anach? Using your logic, he should make a new people simulator game from scratch because modifying the Sims is telling people "I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but here's how you are supposed to do that." ::)The fact that Anach posted a stylish script doesn't affect you AT ALL. He didn't tell Pescado to modify anything, he was simply offering something up for people to use. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 27, 03:55:57 Witch, I wasn't aiming for harsh, merely blunt. Anach posted a suggestion which was commented on adversely by several people, including El Presidente. I don't think anyone here is suggesting a change to the page. However, that is exactly what is being suggested by the person who posted that. When someone says "I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but here's how you are supposed to do that" it doesn't sit well with me. You're certainly interpreting it in a negative way, when all that was actually done, was that I posted a stylish script that allows the individual to tailor the font and colour choice of that page. At no time was it stated that "this must change to suit my needs!". If I wanted to do that, I wouldnt have bothered creating a script to alter it, i would have made a request instead. The reason this came about is mostly because my new 24 inch LCD is a little bright at 4AM when i'm tired, nothing more. Like a mod for a game is one persons preference and attempt to make the game suit their own desires, the stylish script is nothing more than a mod for a web site to adjust it to suit the users preference. The fact that it's created is not a demand upon the original author, no more than your teen pregnancy mod is a demand that EA change Sims 3, or that every person must have it the way you prefer. Its all simply choice. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: awrevell on 2009 June 27, 05:03:43 Then why the fuck are you at this website? Don't you take offense at the fact that there are mods here that change what EA made? Why don't you give Pescado the same shit you're giving Anach? Using your logic, he should make a new people simulator game from scratch because modifying the Sims is telling people "I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but here's how you are supposed to do that." ::) The fact that Anach posted a stylish script doesn't affect you AT ALL. He didn't tell Pescado to modify anything, he was simply offering something up for people to use. Did Pescado go on the exchange and tell them they were doing it wrong? Nope, he made a forum and posted his mods there. I suggested that if the OP didn't like the site as Pescado designed it, he could make his own version to do what the config page did and host it himself. Pescado didn't like the bugged version of the sims games so he fixed what he thought needed fixed and hosted his version. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 27, 05:06:07 I don't think this level of hostility is necessary merely because someone offered a browser tweak to make the StupidConfig look more blue. Even if I don't personally care for it. It's too blue.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 27, 11:41:05 Then why the fuck are you at this website? Don't you take offense at the fact that there are mods here that change what EA made? Why don't you give Pescado the same shit you're giving Anach? Using your logic, he should make a new people simulator game from scratch because modifying the Sims is telling people "I'm not saying you're doing it wrong, but here's how you are supposed to do that." ::) The fact that Anach posted a stylish script doesn't affect you AT ALL. He didn't tell Pescado to modify anything, he was simply offering something up for people to use. Did Pescado go on the exchange and tell them they were doing it wrong? Nope, he made a forum and posted his mods there. I suggested that if the OP didn't like the site as Pescado designed it, he could make his own version to do what the config page did and host it himself. Pescado didn't like the bugged version of the sims games so he fixed what he thought needed fixed and hosted his version. I'm not sure if you are misunderstanding what Stylish does, but I dont understand the logic of your hostility over this. No one came here and said anyone was doing anything wrong either, I havent once said that my theme should be used over anyone elses. The config I made simply edits the page colours to my preference, which is what stylish is all about. It is no different than allowing each person to choose their own forum theme. J.M has done a great job of the config, and having two config pages available to the public would just confuse the whole mod and would most likely be frowned upon by J.M. (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2882/1693after.png) Take a look at this Stylish theme for Google. Simply because I use this, doesnt mean I'm telling Google how to run the show. It's simply a theme. The same if I was to offer a pattern for Sim3, doesnt mean I'm telling the whole world that my Pattern is supperierr to all others. It is simply an entirely optional alternative, which only affects those who choose to use it. It makes sense to offer the script here as it is for this site. If J.M had an issue with it, im sure it would be removed in an instant. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Marhis on 2009 June 27, 12:00:08 I also like the config page more black-on-white background, but also I didn't know about the Stylish add-on; now I know, I like it and have fun with it in other environments.
Besides, given the nature of MATY, I should be more disappointed by the LACK of negative and offensive content in OP's post. I see, however, that you guys are doing a great job to rebalance the ratio, so everything's well. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Dux on 2009 June 27, 12:20:44 Science tells us black (boldish) text on pale yellow (slightly paler than Excel pale yellow) is easiest to read, closely followed by dark purple on same.
For large text san serif is better, for small print serif. The contrast between background and text should not be to large, black on light grey is easier on the eyes than black on glaring white. This is at least true for printed matter (subtractive blending), screens (additive blending) don’t seem to chance the result. One drawback with colour is that if you look at one colour for a long time and then look at a white wall, you will se a shadow image in its complement colour. Green is the complement colour of blood red, so operating theatres usually have pale green walls and scrubs. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: awrevell on 2009 June 27, 13:00:09 It seems I have misunderstood your presentation. Originally I thought you were saying the config page should be redesigned. However, from your last post I gathered that Stylish isn't something that has to be implemented by the site but rather something implemented by an individual. That being the case, my observations were completely wrong. I apologize for taking umbrage and speaking out of turn.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Inge on 2009 June 27, 13:04:54 I prefer the original.
Pescado I can hardly believe you posted what you posted! I am too old for these shocks. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Marhis on 2009 June 27, 13:09:46 Sans Serif please, not "San Serif". It's not a saint, but "without Serif", referring to the little extra details present in Serif typefaces, :-\ :'( :( (http://www.fantasiadomain.com/misc/sanserif.jpg) Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Dux on 2009 June 27, 13:49:03 Sorry! Excuse my (non) French.
I seem to be able to spell only one language at a time. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 27, 14:38:33 It seems I have misunderstood your presentation. Originally I thought you were saying the config page should be redesigned. However, from your last post I gathered that Stylish isn't something that has to be implemented by the site but rather something implemented by an individual. That being the case, my observations were completely wrong. I apologize for taking umbrage and speaking out of turn. Not at all. I'm just thankful that we have a config page in the first place :) Science tells us black (boldish) text on pale yellow (slightly paler than Excel pale yellow) is easiest to read, closely followed by dark purple on same. For large text san serif is better, for small print serif. The contrast between background and text should not be to large, black on light grey is easier on the eyes than black on glaring white. This is at least true for printed matter (subtractive blending), screens (additive blending) don't seem to chance the result. One drawback with colour is that if you look at one colour for a long time and then look at a white wall, you will se a shadow image in its complement colour. Green is the complement colour of blood red, so operating theatres usually have pale green walls and scrubs. Black on yellow might be ok, but for me (at least in this scenario), it was about staying up late and having sore eyes from the monitor glare in a dark room, i didnt really plan it very much, other than choosing a colour from another stylish I use on another similar site. However, the good thing about stylish is that each person can edit the fonts and almost every other page element to their liking. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Dark Trepie on 2009 June 27, 15:36:01 Even if I don't personally care for it. It's too blue. Wouldn't it match your desktop though? :p That Google page looks awesome. I prefer white text with black background. I'ma tryin' this Stylish addon out. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 27, 15:46:57 Simplified. Black background, white sans-serif font, with fixed px rather than percentage size changes. Keep in mind that this is to suit my widescreen and screen res, so make your own adjustments accordingly.
Code: @namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml); Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: infamy on 2009 June 27, 17:19:55 That being the case, my observations were completely wrong. I apologize for taking umbrage and speaking out of turn. While we're being all contrite, could we fix your sig? Harpo never spoke - that was his whole thing. That's a Groucho quote. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: nanacake on 2009 June 29, 01:32:01 I think it's nice the stylish option for sites such as google but kind of silly to bother changing the lone Config page. Why would you be spending large amount of time on the Config page anyways? Should it not only take a few clicks to use and be done with it? If the text is too small though, there is a text only zoom option in Firefox (and most browsers?) under View > Zoom. I do use that, because my eye-sight is poor and the text becomes so small on my large widescreen monitor sometimes.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 29, 04:09:10 I think it's nice the stylish option for sites such as google but kind of silly to bother changing the lone Config page. Why would you be spending large amount of time on the Config page anyways? Should it not only take a few clicks to use and be done with it? If the text is too small though, there is a text only zoom option in Firefox (and most browsers?) under View > Zoom. I do use that, because my eye-sight is poor and the text becomes so small on my large widescreen monitor sometimes. It is true that zoom will increase font size and I still use it frequently, but unfortunately (Even in FF), it will increase the zoom for every page, not just one you are viewing. Stylish allows to tailor a specific page without altering others. For example, my zoom level is set to a comfortable level for most sites, but I still found awesomeconfig to be a little too small for me to view comfortably, so stylish allows me to alter that and bring it up to a level I find comfortable. Most my reasons for doing so for the awesomeconfig have already been stated in above posts, and it really only took a minute to do, so it's not really a bother to do so. Also the fact that sometimes us geeks enjoy tweaking anything and everything :) Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Dux on 2009 June 29, 06:38:36 Opera has zoom per tab, and some other nice features, but lack others.
I use FF, Opera and when forced to, IE, depending on what I need of my browser for the moment. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 29, 07:44:40 Opera has zoom per tab, and some other nice features, but lack others. I use FF, Opera and when forced to, IE, depending on what I need of my browser for the moment. I have tried Opera in the past, but at the time it wasnt the browser for me. I used to use maxthon back in IE6 days, but then got tired of its instability and incompatibility. I went back to IE7/8 for a bit, but found it took ages to load, it kept hanging on certain sites and was generally a pain. Gave chrome a try, but didnt like its lack of features. I've been using FF for a while now, and mostly use it due to its high level of customization and available plugins. I have no need for IE at all, as IE Tab does that trick at a click of a button. Customization is a big thing for me, and in FF i have made an entirely custom skin based upon the default skin, but using stylish scripts. Even when it comes to gaming, all my installed games are heavily modded, and there is always something im tweaking or modding on my PC. I was actually quite surprised over the reaction to my stylish script, as it's a pretty common thing for me to use and this being a modding forum, i thought i'd find some folks that appreciate a small custom tweak :). However, i have been and still am Admin for a couple forums around the planet, so I completely understand the miss-communication issues that arrise from all the different cultures around the world, which is why i've tried to explain myself as calmly as possible. Hopefully everyone understands now that this wasn't a request post, but simply an optional mod :) Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 June 29, 12:30:14 Updated the script and added screenshots (I know we all love screenshots :P )
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: shivafang on 2009 July 01, 13:31:27 Thanks for the intro to Stylish! I much prefer white text on dark background, and didn't know a feature was available that would allow one to change the settings in a global way like that!
Even not directly related to AwesomeMod, this will help my entire browing experience. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: supaclova on 2009 July 11, 04:46:09 I like this because I'm an environmental freak and black light uses less energy than white. Which would mean that more black than white would be saving energy.
As for the white-on-black Google page, you've been beat to it. ;) Check out www.blackle.com Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: edalbformat on 2009 July 12, 14:31:05 I hope all this discussion remain on personal taste only. Besides people that are stylish, there are people that has problem with colors, like me. Nothing against colors but just that I simply cannot read or even see some color combinations. Many times I lost completely the texts just because I couldn't see it. I prefer simply the old typewriter style - black over white.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 July 12, 14:38:01 I don't really think it serves any purpose to discuss whether you like it or not, since this "Stylish" thing is not an official implementation of anything and has no effect on anyone else, so is purely a personal thing. Plus, you visit the config page that often? I don't actually HAVE a style on the config page, it's just raw simple HTML.
Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Anach on 2009 July 12, 14:38:25 I hope all this discussion remain on personal taste only. Besides people that are stylish, there are people that has problem with colors, like me. Nothing against colors but just that I simply cannot read or even see some color combinations. Many times I lost completely the texts just because I couldn't see it. I prefer simply the old typewriter style - black over white. Stylish is a plugin for firefox that allows one to change a website style to suit their own tastes. It would be especially helpful for you, as you could change many sites (all those hard to read sites) to suit your colour preferences. This is all I have done. I have changed the awesomeconfig page to suit my own tastes on colour and brightness to make it easier to read for me. Each person prefers different colours, and with stylish you can do it. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: edalbformat on 2009 July 12, 19:48:28 Yeah, explained this way it sounds really interesting. Lately many sites are using an explosion of colors and it would be useful if I could turn them all into simple black and white. I'm really color blind for some combinations. I had a problem once visiting MTS2 and there was something like a warning in the screen. I changed all the buttons available in my monitor and could not read it.
Got too embarassed to ask someone to read it for me. It would have sound like a joke. Until today I don't know what was written there. It was very small letter in yellow over white. I can only see yellow if the background is absolutely black. Title: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: Frick on 2009 July 12, 21:14:51 I like this because I'm an environmental freak and black light uses less energy than white. Which would mean that more black than white would be saving energy. That's not necessarily true: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-black-isTitle: Re: AwesomeMod Config - Stylish Post by: supaclova on 2009 July 14, 03:07:24 I like this because I'm an environmental freak and black light uses less energy than white. Which would mean that more black than white would be saving energy. That's not necessarily true: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-black-is |