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Title: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Marhis on 2009 June 07, 18:35:19
Surprise! The Prima Guide is completely WRONG.

Here's a list of all the possible upgrades. They become available at different levels of the Handiness skill; I'll add them later, when I will finish to train another sim (I didn't pay attention before, while the first sim were skilling).

Objects    Upgrade    Required
Handiness
Level*
   Notes
Shower
Tub
Toilet
Sink
Self-cleaning
Unbreakable
3
6
-
DishwasherSilent Running
Unbreakable
3
6
Only the cheapest dishwasher has Silent Running available.
StoveSelf-cleaning
Fireproof
Improved Meal Quality
3
4
7
All have the Improved Meal Quality; the more expensive stoves seems to have the Fireproof and Self-Cleaning features already embedded.
DoorbellChange Doorbell
(Default/Jingle/Jokester/Posh/Haunted)
3Click on the front door for the menu.
FireplaceFireproof
Auto Light
Change Fire Color
6
7
9
High end fireplaces have the option to change fire color already included.
TVUnbreakable
Boost Channels
6
7
Channels may vary according to the TV model.
ComputerUnbreakable
Improved Graphics
6
8
Improved Graphics available at Handiness lvl 0 if the sim has the Computer Whiz trait.
StereoImproved Speakers
Unbreakable
Wire House With Speakers
3
6
8
The portable boombox is not upgradable.
MicrowaveFaster Cooking7
-
Trash CompactorUnbreakable
Improved Crushing
6
6
-
SprinklerAuto Water4-
Teleportation PadUnbreakable
Perfect Teleportation
6
7
-
Food ReplicatorImproved Memory9-

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Misc Notes

  • Tinker becomes available at Handiness lvl 1 and can give the object a random upgrade (or a random failure/break as well)
  • Every upgrade has a probability to fail; the resulting damage may vary.
  • Sims with the Handy trait will always be successful in upgrades.
  • Failure in upgrading electrical objects may have your sim singed. If fails again before the "singed" moodlet wears off, the sim dies. Risk is higher if there are puddles on the floor.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Rothchild on 2009 June 07, 18:44:31
You can also upgrade the lifetime reward teleporter.  I think the name of the upgrade is Perfect Teleport, no clue on the level though.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Cheencheela on 2009 June 07, 19:13:20
Off-topic for a bit, what does (The sentence just started to sound retarded) the Perfect Teleporter do?

Is there a Regular Teleporter? The description mentions of some kind of errors... Can the sims be killed?
And yeah, I haven't gotten 75,000 Lifetime points yet. Don't bother to cheat.


Other than that, the sheet looks good.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: pioupiou on 2009 June 07, 19:27:17
You can also upgrade the Reward Food Replicator ("improve memory").


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Rothchild on 2009 June 07, 19:31:06
Off-topic for a bit, what does (The sentence just started to sound retarded) the Perfect Teleporter do?

Is there a Regular Teleporter? The description mentions of some kind of errors... Can the sims be killed?
And yeah, I haven't gotten 75,000 Lifetime points yet. Don't bother to cheat.
From the little bit I used it, it just has a chance to not teleport you, wasting time.  It's not worth the points though, since once you teleport off your lot you have to take a taxi back.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: VeilSethekk on 2009 June 07, 19:37:06
From the little bit I used it, it just has a chance to not teleport you, wasting time.  It's not worth the points though, since once you teleport off your lot you have to take a taxi back.

With the teleporter, all of your sims get the option to "Teleport Home" on their cellphones. They still will need a taxi or car to get to another lot though.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Marhis on 2009 June 07, 20:19:20
Thank you, I didn't think of perk objects. List updated.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: infamy on 2009 June 07, 20:51:42
Teleporter is upgradable at Level 9.  That's what level my Sim was when she got hers, ergo I don't know if she could have done it at Level 8. Non-"perfected" teleporters can send you to the wrong place, though you tend to end up in the right neck of the woods.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Cheencheela on 2009 June 07, 21:42:26
Woah, woah, woah.

*Rubs chin in amazement*



Trash CompactorUnbreakable
Improved Crushing
4
3

There are trash compactors in Sims 3?


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: infamy on 2009 June 07, 21:47:01
Woah, woah, woah.

*Rubs chin in amazement*



There are trash compactors in Sims 3?

!! 

Not sure if you're thinking of the kitchen ones, or if you're hoping for a big green truck. But they do exist as kitchen appliances.  Either sort by Room --> Kitchen --> Disposal  or sort by Function --> Appliances --> Large Appliances.

Buy and build modes need little search engines.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Cheencheela on 2009 June 07, 21:53:38
Bleh, I'm so used to Sims 2 where you click on the Dishwashers thingymabob and poof, Trash compactors!

Infact, I'm going to make a community lot named Trash Compactor Land, just to see it break down and some nut job trying to fix it, ending in an electricution, a funeral and a sexual relationship to a dishwasher.
Wait, what.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: linz on 2009 June 07, 22:17:39
ending in an electrocution, a funeral and a sexual relationship to a dishwasher.
Wait, what.

I literally lol'd when I read that, my boyfriend does that all the time (meaning he will say something and then just throw in some inappropriate random statement along with it.)


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: witch on 2009 June 07, 23:02:14
ending in an electrocution, a funeral and a sexual relationship to a dishwasher.
Wait, what.

I literally lol'd when I read that, my boyfriend does that all the time (meaning he will say something and then just throw in some inappropriate random statement along with it.)

Well thanks n00b, that's added to my knowledge base.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: kiki on 2009 June 07, 23:56:52
You can get improved graphics on the PC at handiness level 0 if you have the Computer Whiz trait...that's what happened with mine. I think as a Computer Whiz, you have a sadorandom chance to improve it regardless of your handiness skill.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Simsbaby on 2009 June 08, 00:12:00
What exactly does Improved Graphics do, anyway? Does it make games more fun? Because it seems unbreakable is more useful than that as they seem to break every other use.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Marhis on 2009 June 08, 00:23:41
Improved Graphics should give more fun, yes, although I didn't test extensively the matter.
About the improvement, I agree that the unbreakability is more useful, but the difference is that one of the challenges of the game is to have 10 different upgrades completed, so you have to make a bit of diversification.

(Updated the main table)


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Manderin on 2009 June 08, 17:04:50
In addition to the ten unique upgrades, one of the "extra challenges" is to repair at least ten electronic (also one for plumbing) items. How will you ever get this if everything is unbreakable?


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 08, 22:17:37
Abuse the "tinker" command on it until it breaks.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: cheezwiz on 2009 June 09, 02:19:32
What does Tinker actually do, apart from breaking objects?  Just a non-book way of raising Handiness, at the cost of breaking stuff?

I had my Handy sim tinker on things a lot, assuming that it would unlock additional upgrade recipes or something, but didn't actually find anything.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Heinel on 2009 June 09, 02:28:50
What does Tinker actually do, apart from breaking objects?  Just a non-book way of raising Handiness, at the cost of breaking stuff?

I had my Handy sim tinker on things a lot, assuming that it would unlock additional upgrade recipes or something, but didn't actually find anything.

Tinkering can also give random upgrades to objects.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: ElenaRoan on 2009 June 09, 08:40:30
If changing the colour of a fire is indeed one of the Handy options then it's available at 0 as my sim has the option and I haven't started him skilling Handy yet.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: cyperangel on 2009 June 09, 09:58:29
The high end fireplaces have it as a default option that any sim can change the color of the fire.
The cheap ones require a tinkerer to do some fiddling before the option shows though.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Snooty on 2009 June 10, 09:33:57
After checking, I found that I could Tinker almost every object in that list with just level 1. And my Sim didn't even have the Handy trait. With level 1, I started tinkering the shower and it got Unbreakable.
Not sure what's going on there.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: hidethe_cutlery on 2009 June 11, 10:13:36
SprinklerAuto Water4-
oh my god there's a sprinkler? I've been watering all my damn plants by hand >:c

(yes, first post, please don't eat me.)


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Roflganger on 2009 June 11, 11:33:28

oh my god there's a sprinkler? I've been watering all my damn plants by hand >:c


I had the hardest time finding it at first.  If you're looking at objects grouped by room, it's under "Outdoors".  Then click on the football icon (Activities).  The water sprinkler is there.  I guess it's there because Sims can play in it, but it works perfectly well as a garden sprinkler.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Pinstar on 2009 June 12, 21:23:32
There is apparently some risk when applying spcific upgrades too. I had a sim with a very low handiness skill try to apply the self-cleaning upgrade to the toilet at the end of the progress bar, instread of getting the upgrade the toilet instantly went to a dirty state and the progress was reset to 0%


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Snooty on 2009 June 12, 22:01:42
For my site, I had to check all the upgrade options. Still don't have all of them but at least I can confirm the following:
better food quality at stove is indeed 7
Auto light fireplace is indeed 7
Boost channels for tv is 7 but I suspect it's different with each tv. Expensive tv's may already have more channels.
Improve graphics for PC is indeed 8
Wire house with speakers is indeed 8
Faster cooking microwave is 7 (I really didn't see a speed increase though).
Trashcompactor is indeed 6

As for unbreakable (6) and self cleaning (3); It's for all objects the same.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: kutto on 2009 June 13, 00:28:47
There is apparently some risk when applying spcific upgrades too. I had a sim with a very low handiness skill try to apply the self-cleaning upgrade to the toilet at the end of the progress bar, instread of getting the upgrade the toilet instantly went to a dirty state and the progress was reset to 0%

Sims upgrading electrical objects and stoves run the risk of getting singed.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: BlueSoup on 2009 June 13, 00:37:52
There is apparently some risk when applying spcific upgrades too. I had a sim with a very low handiness skill try to apply the self-cleaning upgrade to the toilet at the end of the progress bar, instread of getting the upgrade the toilet instantly went to a dirty state and the progress was reset to 0%

Sims upgrading electrical objects and stoves run the risk of getting singed.

or dying.  Rest in peace, Test Sim #3.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: kiki on 2009 June 13, 04:48:33
I can confirm that ALL upgrades to the PC ("sturdiness" or "improved graphics") are possible from Handiness level 0 if you are a Computer Whiz and choose the "overclock" option, you just don't get a choice in what upgrade it is that you get - you either fail to improve it, make it unbreakable or improve the graphics.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Kyna on 2009 June 13, 06:17:54
There is apparently some risk when applying spcific upgrades too. I had a sim with a very low handiness skill try to apply the self-cleaning upgrade to the toilet at the end of the progress bar, instread of getting the upgrade the toilet instantly went to a dirty state and the progress was reset to 0%

Sims upgrading electrical objects and stoves run the risk of getting singed.

Upgrading the stove to be anti-fire carries a risk of setting the stove on fire.  Fortunately (or maybe unfortunately?) the house had a fire alarm - it was my first day's play and I hadn't been checking to see if the houses had the basics such as fire or burglar alarms.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Aaroc on 2009 June 16, 23:06:55
Fortunately (or maybe unfortunately?) the house had a fire alarm - it was my first day's play and I hadn't been checking to see if the houses had the basics such as fire or burglar alarms.

I believe every premade house now has a fire alarm, and they're consideredf part of the unfurnished cost of a house, so as long as a fire alarm is ever installed in a house, it will be there forever unless you delete it. (Which i did in order to kill my second gen's first husband when he moved in to her house with a day left before becoming an elder >_<)


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: marieoriole on 2009 June 23, 07:48:44
has anyone found the underworld gate upgrade or how to do it? it just popped up as a wish for my sim and i'm really confused as to how to upgrade the thing...please help!!!


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Jaeger on 2009 June 28, 12:56:45
Any modder want to make the repairman be able to tinker with your stuff? I don't really want to learn that skill for some simmies but would like to have a Posh doorbell, upgrade the computer or have music throughout the house. Would be nice to have the Geek Squad come by. I haven't tried it with a tinkerer but I have invited myself into another simmie's house, was chatting and notice some family members were hungry so my simmie, a good cook, helped herself to their kitchen and they told me I was doing something inappropriate. I'm sure it would be the same with a tinkerer or computer expert.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Snooty on 2009 June 30, 08:56:24
You won't get inapropriate behaviour from Sims you visit if you tinker something there. For example, as a joke, I changed the doorbell on my neighbor into a very silly sound and they didn't react to my banging on their door with a hammer.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: kemowery on 2009 July 01, 15:39:24
has anyone found the underworld gate upgrade or how to do it? it just popped up as a wish for my sim and i'm really confused as to how to upgrade the thing...please help!!!

What is the underworld gate?  The crypt in the cemetery?


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Motoki on 2009 July 03, 21:02:01
Is there a list of what the science experiment upgrades do and which objects are upgradable? It seems like from experimentation, either something bad happens, it makes the object much more attractive or higher environment score, makes it more effective, or makes it make a funky electronic sound.  :P


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Mehra on 2009 July 08, 05:50:38

oh my god there's a sprinkler? I've been watering all my damn plants by hand >:c


I had the hardest time finding it at first.  If you're looking at objects grouped by room, it's under "Outdoors".  Then click on the football icon (Activities).  The water sprinkler is there.  I guess it's there because Sims can play in it, but it works perfectly well as a garden sprinkler.

Am I the ONLY person who cannot use the Upgrade option on the sprinklers?  I'm not even kidding.  I have had several sims, handy or not, up to level 10 handiness... and they have never had the option on the sprinklers to upgrade them. o.o  I really want to upgrade my sprinklers!  How come I can't?  I tried removing all my mods, but that didn't do anything. :(  It boggles my mind.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: PolecatEZ on 2009 July 08, 07:26:11

oh my god there's a sprinkler? I've been watering all my damn plants by hand >:c


I had the hardest time finding it at first.  If you're looking at objects grouped by room, it's under "Outdoors".  Then click on the football icon (Activities).  The water sprinkler is there.  I guess it's there because Sims can play in it, but it works perfectly well as a garden sprinkler.

Am I the ONLY person who cannot use the Upgrade option on the sprinklers?  I'm not even kidding.  I have had several sims, handy or not, up to level 10 handiness... and they have never had the option on the sprinklers to upgrade them. o.o  I really want to upgrade my sprinklers!  How come I can't?  I tried removing all my mods, but that didn't do anything. :(  It boggles my mind.

Was the sprinkler on, in use, or already upgraded?


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: LVRugger on 2009 July 09, 13:22:05

oh my god there's a sprinkler? I've been watering all my damn plants by hand >:c


I had the hardest time finding it at first.  If you're looking at objects grouped by room, it's under "Outdoors".  Then click on the football icon (Activities).  The water sprinkler is there.  I guess it's there because Sims can play in it, but it works perfectly well as a garden sprinkler.

Am I the ONLY person who cannot use the Upgrade option on the sprinklers?  I'm not even kidding.  I have had several sims, handy or not, up to level 10 handiness... and they have never had the option on the sprinklers to upgrade them. o.o  I really want to upgrade my sprinklers!  How come I can't?  I tried removing all my mods, but that didn't do anything. :(  It boggles my mind.

Make sure the sprinkler is turned off. You won't get the option to upgrade it when it is on.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: jeffreyc on 2009 July 19, 05:30:48
doorbell needs more than handyness skill. It seems to require creativity as well or something. I have 10 handyness with only default doorbell option on the menu, but another sim with a 6 or 7 handyness and about that in creativity as well had 4 different options.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: hidethe_cutlery on 2009 July 19, 12:49:23
I don't think so, my Sim had no creative and still got all the options (Jokester, Haunted, Posh and something else)


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: DentedLemons on 2009 July 19, 13:11:49
doorbell needs more than handyness skill. It seems to require creativity as well or something. I have 10 handyness with only default doorbell option on the menu, but another sim with a 6 or 7 handyness and about that in creativity as well had 4 different options.

Were you trying on your front door? I *think* if you have set a front door, that's the only door with the doorbell upgrade option. But I could be wrong :p


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Doc Doofus on 2009 July 24, 22:59:18
I want to know what that "underworld gateway" post was talking about.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: IgnorantBliss on 2009 July 26, 07:22:28
I want to know what that "underworld gateway" post was talking about.

I bet it was just a translation into English from some other language meaning the mausoleum or catacombs at the cemetary.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Faizah on 2009 July 26, 07:26:21
I think it's the name of one of the gates, probably the large stone and iron one at/near the end of the catalogue.

From context, it does sound like gates. I've had sims get wants to upgrade gates, but they can't be upgraded.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: virgali on 2009 July 31, 13:27:40
I got all excited when I read that you could upgrade the coffeemaker so there's always fresh coffee in the morning. I was really disappointed when I realised it cannot be done. Though if you serve coffee and don't drink everything they won't go bad so there really is no deed ofr that upgrae I believe.

Another thing that annoys me is that you can't preview the sounds of the doorbell. How the heck am I supposed to choose what I want if I don't know how it my options sounds like? It also takes too darn long to upgrade the doorbell. You'd figure for something as easy as just chasning the sound the'd shorten the time needed.


Title: Re: Object upgrades - the real list
Post by: Marhis on 2009 July 31, 15:53:08
I want to know what that "underworld gateway" post was talking about.

I wonder if this part of the patch fixes (1.3)

Quote
"Upgrade Object" wish correctly filters out gates.

is somehow related.