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http://rapidshare.com/files/160642187/FPS_Limiter_0.2.rar

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33935231

I've found that turning off Vsync significantly increases performance on any pc game I've ever played. Some say it causes graphic issues but I've never noticed any, just a faster game.

I might be a Noob and sheep but at least I'm up on current problems and happenings with TS3. Maybe you should go read a few other threads and learn why he posted this.

Then learn, as I'm am trying to do, not to open your mouth and put your foot in it up to the hip.

ran some tests on ultra speed with and without it.

average sim time passed in 1 real time minute.

zoomed in on sim activity.

without fps limiter
2 hours 15 minutes

fps limited to 30:
2 hours 50 minutes

in general the game feels more responsive and less sluggish.

What the fuck you talking about dickwad? You're just another idiot who wants to sound off without thinking first. Read my post. I was merely helping out people who might have sluggish games running. Turning off Vsync can increase performance. You're an idiot for trying to flame me for giving a helpful post. Arsehole.

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80% of the people are having overheating problems with TS3 due to FPS (If you had read the forums and posts contained there in you would know this). I can see why they should turn Vsync off to help increase their overheating problem. You're just another dumbass that is trying to cover his own ass, n00b. Learn to read before you spout, fuckwad. Butthurt much?

The tool helped my game run much more smoothly.  Thanks for sharing.

Turning off Vsync does not cause overheating you fucking dumbass butty boy. You're just some little geek prick who thinks he knows it all. You know jackshit.
I've never had an overheated card or cpu and I always turn off Vsync. Your momma done teached you wrong boy. Whatever you say, you're wrong so don't waste yourself. Suck it up and learn.

Vsync matches your monitors refresh rate/frequency, with a 3D applications frame rate.

In other words, It doesn't let your frame rate go above your monitors refresh rate.

85 Hz. = 85 FPS
100 Hz. = 100 FPS
and so on.

TS3 has a problem with frame rates running high and causing problems with overheating. This isn't about other games, n00b, this is about TS3. Take your dwadle else where and learn what you're speaking of. LURK MOAR assmunch.

Edit: Fixed spelling mistake.

You're talking shit butty boy. You think you can make up stuff now and say oh it's down to Sims 3, Sims 3 runs differently. You're just trying to defend your crap. Like I said, you know jackshit. You're talking out of your arse. Turning off Vsync is recommended just about everywhere, on every gaming forum and even by EA themselves. So go Google Vsync and do some research before you spout off your crap. Prick.

Nice try, try harder. This entire category is about TS3. Again, read the forums and you too can understand what is going on beyond your little self absorbed world. Had you even said something about helping people with a sluggish TS3 in your first post it would have made some sense. Instead you come in and say what you did when there is a thread about people having problems with overheating because of the FPS in TS3.

Go crawl back in your hole and hide like the rest of us n00bs should be.

Edit: I love when they edit their post as you're replying. Additional edit for spelling. :(

In response to his addition, the above is from Googe and Tomshardware page. The suggested method is to leave Vsync on and change the refresh rate of your monitor until any tearing you see is gone. Limiting FPS = smoother game play in most cases. Notice I didn't say all. Try harder!

Vsync being off helps it go at a higher framerate then the monitor's set refresh rate. Most people are not able to hit 60fps in the Sims 3 so Vsync has little to no effect. Those that are able to hit it several are having overheating issues. Limiting the framerate to 30 is still playable(Its under 30 that is sluggish) it can help lower temps. So you are both right to some extent. Turning Vsync off is great if you have no issues or on game with too fast frames(not common).

To refer to Sims 3 turning it off and limiting the frames contradicts each other. So either using a framelimiter with or without Vsync it won't matter the new limit will be with what you set in the limiter. Vsync is a fpslimiter as is, but to the refresh rate of your monitor, however seeing that is too high and causes high temps with tons of people the need to lower that further using this program can help.

Thankyou Killallah. The idiot poster is rude and obnoxious, so IT gets a rude reply in kind.  My post has nothing to do with overheating. People are paranoid lately 'bout overheating. Jeeeeesus! I've no idea why the moron keeps referring to me as a noob, since I worked for years as a computer programmer for a well known games company (which I'm not going to mention here).  Anyway, nuff said. People can Google Vsync and see for themselves what I'm chatting about.

When this thread inevitably gets moved to RL, can someone keep the original post here?  The FPS Limiter has actually been very useful on my ATI card, crash-prone computer and I'm sure others like me would appreciate the link.  Maybe that post should be moved to the technical problems thread instead.

Couple of notes about the FPS Limiter:
-  The useful part of the readme is in German, making it slightly less helpful.
-  My computer was consistently running at 78-82°C and crashing every few hours; after changing the FPS to 30 with the FPS Limiter, it is now running 5-10 degrees cooler and I haven't had a crash to desktop yet.

I think we are all missing the main issue, which is that Bakermiaz is clearly a sock of Methven. No two people could BOTH be so stupid about punctuation.

Show me.

Thanks for this. In case anyone else is as blind as I was, the .bat created is actually in the FPS Limiter folder, not the game exe folder  :D

Thanks for this!

With vsynch off = 210+ fps average / GPU = 97°C (fan on silent mode)
With vsynch on = 60fps / GPU = 67°C
With the FPS Limiter tool  = 42fps / GPU = 52°C

Q6600 @ 2,4GHz, 8800GT 512Mo, 3Go RAM, XP/Vista.

You may also find this article useful:
http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_9.html

If I was getting  67°C with vsync on I wouldn't bother with this limiter Viviane.

My old computers graphics card (nVidia 6800) was getting core temperatures up to 127°C.
I am surprised it hasn't died on me yet like my older ATI9800 pro.

The one I use now (nVidia 8800) is just a little above 90°C while gaming, with its fan duty cycle at 100%.
I like to keep things quite, fan 60-70% and temperatures under 80°C.  The limiter helps me do this.

Sounds like you don't have any overheating problem.
Your card is running cooler while gaming than mine is when just idle at the desktop, which it does at  76°C

I was trying to keep my GPU under 60°C. I am glad to know that 70/80° is ok. Thanks  :)

Usually my GPU temp are : 44° idle / 58° while gaming (mostly MMO's).

Nevermind. Somehow my comp picked up a virus between yesterday + today. A virus scan fixed the issue.

I only seemed to get overheating on the loading screen and menus, which seemed utterly bizarre to me. However, this tool seems to have completely fixed that problem. I guess the loading screen just wanted a high fps for whatever reason.

Thanks!

Excellent - from 99% GPU usage to 23%. Very nice. Thankee.

I couldn't get it to work at first with ATI Tray Tool's onscreen display on. For anyone using that, you may need to turn it off first. (osd, not the entire program.)

Yes, getting 1409fps at movie and 600 at menus wasn't really neccessary, since I notice no difference between that and 60.

This FPS limiter is very useful. I solve the overheat problem with TS3, the game run very smooth and rarely to crash now. I made a batch file for it.

I'm very recommend to use this program as soon as possible. Since overheat can break your video card, or have short lifetime.

Does anyone know FPS limiter work for DirectX 10 games?

My game runs fine at points but sometimes it seems jolty if you understand what i'm saying how can i make the game rum smoother? I have used this to reduce the FPS what else would you suggest?

 ??? I am having problems with TS3 crashing during game play, I was directed to this website for (ahem) assistance? After searching through the various threads(?) I found this one on FPS limiter. This sounds as if it could help my situation. However, I need help from those of you that know the ins and outs on how to use the fps limiter 0.02. (this is said with a little embarassment as I will probably have someone poke fun at my request) I am not a wiz at computers and their programming, but I can work my way through things with a decent explanation. Just as a note I am new to this website as far as posting goes, I have been around the sims communities since The sims 1. I just don't talk much, I would rather appreciate the efforts of those greater than I and thank them for those efforts. (no I won't kiss the ground you walk on nor your feet, a hearty thank you should suffice) So, if someone would be willing to post a short walk through on fps limiter 0.2 so that I can utilize it and hopefully keep my game from crashing until a decent patch comes out of EA. (this last bit is said with great sarcasm)
I think specifically I would need information on the settings, what to choose--D3D9 or  OGL or D3D8.
Then what name to enter?  in name area
Then would the path be  where I installed it to? 
What maximum fps would I use?
  What does logging, OSD, and create bat do?
and in the end what do I do with the end result?
 I used babelfish to translate the German in the read me file, But the English translation may as well have been German also for all the help it gave me. this may be a long post, but aI am a babyboomer with a lot of questions. LOL
Thank you to the brave person that responds to this.
Simcandy

simcandy, hopefully this will help.  It sounds like you're making things way too complicated.  What I did was this:

1) Run FPS_Limiter_GUI.
2) Hit the search executable button.
3) Navigate to the folder where Sims 3 is installed.  If you're on a PC, it should either be C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3.exe or C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3.exe if you have a 64-bit version of Windows.
4) Leave the fps at 30 for starters.  You can always change it later if you'd like to use a higher setting.
5) Click the create bat button.
6) A file called TS3.exe.limited.bat should show up in the folder of FPS_Limiter_GUI.  Move this wherever you'd like (i.e. your desktop) and use it to run The Sims 3 instead of any previously existing shortcut.

If you need more help, feel free to PM me.  By the way, I left my settings on D3D9, and didn't touch logging or OSD.

Interfection gave you good basics.  Here's some extra info if you really care, but you don't need to know to get it to work.

I suspect TS3 will only run with the DirectX9 (the other two choices are DirectX8 and OpenGL).  I'm not certain.

Max FPS 30 default is cool.  First of all, the idea is to prevent unnecessary massive card stress.  Highest I've seen in Sims3 is 185 and it doesn't need to do that for what is practically a still image.  Some will say humans cannot see faster than 70 fps.  In my experience, few people are as fickle as I am as I do not like to tolerate < 35 fps.  Nonetheless, My usual rate for this game is around, uh 14.  (Kill me now.)  Hey, that makes me mad now that I think about it.  I usually had 25 in Oblivion, iirc.  (ramblongne)

OSD is On Screen Display.  In this case, you will get a large number in the upper left corner of your screen showing the current FPS.  In general, I would not bother with it.  (In practice, you don't need a neon digit to tell you when it's freaking slow as shit.)

Have fun.

I tried using this but nothing like what you're describing is happening.

If I click on the FPS_Limiter_GUI file, all I get is a listing of what's in the file. If I click on the FPS_Limiter file, I get a split-second black screen (the command screen, I assume) and again, nothing else happens. The other files in the .rar are four .dll files and a readme.txt, half of which is in German.

Have I deposited files somewhere, and if so, where are they? Totally lost here.

Go into your WinRar settings where it lists the file types handled by WinRar and make sure to uncheck the .jar file extension. You should then be able to click on the GUI file and bring it up. The GUI file is java and you don't want the java file to be handled as a WinRar archive.

I don't have WinRar, I use 7-Zip. But I can't find any way to specify which file types it handles.

Explanation.  The jar just creates a batch file to run FPS_Limiter.exe .  Your system isn't running java for your jar.  You don't need java to run the limiter anyhow.

To fix java:  Right click the jar, select "open with"...  Well, I don't know what to tell you here for certain.  Might reinstall java from sun to reset your settings to something normal.  Mine on XP is opening with "Java (TM) platform binary SE" or something.

To procede without:  Might be easiest just to edit the bat yourself.  here's mine (which, yes, is truely missing a double quote now that I look at it.  *shrug*)


save as ineedadesriptivefilename.bat and doubleclick to start the limiter and thesims.

Just edit those two paths to what right for your system.  Hope I helped.  Editted for formatting and info.

McCrea, thanks very much for your help, really I mean it, but I can't understand a single thing you said. What jar? Or .jar? Edit what bat, where and how? And I don't have an H drive.

Sorry to sound like such an asshat noob, but that's what I am.  Really, should I even bother with this? The game seems to be running okay, I just got concerned because people were saying how you could ruin your video card if it's overheating. How can I tell if I have a problem?

Ok, that's great.  It's better than trying to help someone who erroneously thinks they have a clue.   ;D  In turn, please excuse me for soundling like an asshat geek.

You mentioned "I click on the FPS_Limiter_GUI file".  That was the jar.  jar equals java.  The file name is FPS_Limiter_GUI.jar
Feel free to blame Microsoft Windows for hiding critical information by default.  I mean it.  Call up MS and tell them to suck it.  It helps to manage stress and maintain patience for the task at hand.

There's still 2 ways to do this.  Fix java.  Or create the batch file yourself.

Ok, I hope I don't die, but Let's try #1.  Fix java.  I hate to tell people to install stuff, but this is good for you, because what is happening now is not "normal".  When you double click FPS_Limiter_GUI.jar or any .jar filetype, something "significant" is supposed to happen.  Long story short, java is generally a fairly important computer supplement that "should" be on "every home computer".  Let's install Java.  (I'm not a java pro though, ahem)

I assume this huge link won't work  :)
Java SE Runtime Environment 6u14 (https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=jre-6u14-oth-JPR@CDS-CDS_Developer)

If not:

• go to http://java.sun.com/ (http://java.sun.com/)
• select "downloads", then select "Java SE"
• Takes us to a new page where you click "Download" for  "Java SE Runtime Environment:  JRE 6 Update 14".  that's the second item on this page.

Install that, and then I believe you should be able to double click FPS_Limiter_GUI.jar and be on the same page as the rest of us.

EDIT:
Goddamit, I am a fucking twit.  I didn't really read your whole post before auto-geek responding.
New answer:
No, it probably isn't worth your time to bother unless you want to learn.   :-\

I'm ever grateful for the geeks of the world. They keep me from doing stupid things, and when I do stupid things anyway, they help me undo them.


Oh, I see.


Like it would do any good, on a par with complaining to EA about - well, about pretty much anything.


I do want to learn and I may try your advice at a later date, but if you don't think it's a priority at the moment I think I'll let it pass. I've got enough on my plate in RL right now, and anything that ain't broke can wait.

Many thanks anyway, I very much appreciate your time.

Thank you Interfection for you easy to follow instructions.  I see now what I did wrong in the first place. I used the sims 3 launcher.exe as my path instead and I didn't use it to start the game. (would duh! fit in here?) Both you and Mccrea were very helpful and 'kind' in you answers.
A big batch of THANK YOUS again

Mccrea  a big batch of THANK YOUS to you too. Both you and Interfection helped me tremendously. I am sorry it took me a while to  respond back to your replys, The dratted game confuddled my computer and I had to restore to an earlier point before I could do anything else. I am almost tempted to can it until maxis figures out their problems and sends out a patch. Like that will ever happen LOL
Simcandy


Moderator edit: double posting fixed, extraneous quoting removed

OK i am officially confused and having a really bad blonde moment.  I've read through almost this entire thread and my head now officially hurts.  First step...I downloaded the FPS thing.  I extracted it into a folder.  When I double click the FPS_Limiter_GUI thing it gives me this error: "Cannot find main class. Program will exit."  So then I started reading other posts and I have NO idea how to many this sucker work.  I just want my game to stop crashing...someone please help...please  ???

The easy way is to get the 3booter and fps plugin found here (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15585.0.html).

I have been searching online myself, but come up empty so I thought I'd ask here.

I just installed this and everything went OK, clicked on the bat file - game starts up just fine... However there is a large bright green flashing numeral display in the upper left corner. I checked my FPS Limiter and I did not turn the OSD on and indeed the bat file is saying it's off.

Does anyone have any clues as to why its still there, its very intrusive. I would like to to use the FPS Limiter as my Nvidia GTX 260 card is new and is a whopper of a card and gets hot quickly, even with lots of cooling.

Thanks

If you get the green crud in the window when booting up, push F10.

Push F11 to increase and push F12 to decrease FPS.  
Test to increase FPS above the default value of 30 and watch the difference.
I doubt you can see any difference at all.