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Title: Ctrl-click to remove moodlets - testingcheatsenabled
Post by: anonymouscoward on 2009 May 30, 10:13:05
I just noticed that Ctrl-Clicking on a moodlet removes that moodlet from your sim when testingcheatsenabled is true. RLD.

Couldn't think of a better place to post. :) Hope this is the appropriate forum....if not, sorry for causing the moderators the inconvenience of removing it (or me, as the case may be). ;)

I wonder what other things are ctrl-clickable.....


Title: Re: Ctrl-click to remove moodlets - testingcheatsenabled
Post by: simsdesperado on 2009 May 30, 10:20:43
Does deleting them cause any change to the sim's needs or something? I've noticed that they will refuse to do certain actions when some of their needs are low, but I didn't notice anything about the moodlets that would affect the sim. I think they are like short-term memories and that's all they do.


Title: Re: Ctrl-click to remove moodlets - testingcheatsenabled
Post by: anonymouscoward on 2009 May 30, 10:51:38
The moodlets effect what was called the aspiration level in TS2 (the vertical green or yellow bar) for the duration shown under the moodlet, so yes short term memories would be an appropriate description.


Title: Re: Ctrl-click to remove moodlets - testingcheatsenabled
Post by: teaislovely on 2009 May 30, 12:07:56
They do affect your Sim ie: if you drink a cup of coffee you get a moodlet from it, while that moodlet is in effect you cannot go to sleep (the option is greyed out and mentions the moodlet when you hover over the sleep option).

So some of them are definitely more than just short term memories.


Title: Re: Ctrl-click to remove moodlets - testingcheatsenabled
Post by: Fat D on 2009 May 30, 14:35:21
The moodlets effect what was called the aspiration level in TS2 (the vertical green or yellow bar) for the duration shown under the moodlet, so yes short term memories would be an appropriate description.

Actually, it is more of a relocated mood bar (hence moodlets), and it replaces two non-critical needs of a sim (environment, which effectively still functions the same, and comfort, which is no longer chargeable.
And, I hope I am not getting this wrong, but it either effects a change in the mood or affects the mood. The mood is not solely caused by moodlets, although they are a deciding factor.


Title: Re: Ctrl-click to remove moodlets - testingcheatsenabled
Post by: diskoh on 2009 May 30, 16:05:05
thanks for the info, i didn't know that. wonder what else control+clicking can do? i was only familiar with shift.

this will come in handy because it made no sense to have a sad moodlet when my insane evil sim watched his sworn nemesis die.


Title: Re: Ctrl-click to remove moodlets - testingcheatsenabled
Post by: anonymouscoward on 2009 May 31, 00:20:38
this will come in handy because it made no sense to have a sad moodlet when my insane evil sim watched his sworn nemesis die.

That and fifty other AI bugs regarding behaviors. It becomes more and more apparent that the "traits" which were so acclaimed in all the reviews are virtually meaningless in the effect they have on AI behavior except under certain rare conditions, so until people like Pescado can come up with an FFS suite like the one for TS2, removing moodlets is likely the only way to get sims to act like their personalities say they should (albeit manually) or at least prevent them from being entirely dysfunctional.

It's almost as if somebody important on the AI team jumped ship at the last moment and the remaining staff removed a truckload of functions during that "delay" because they couldn't figure out how to debug it or something.

Gee, maybe all of this stuff will be magically fixed on Tuesday. :-X