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I d/l'd and installed the Razor release and it works along with its accompanying cracked .exe. Will report back if I notice any differences, particularly if my computer stops occasionally freezing or if I notice any different / less retarded game behavior or content. No, there is no inherent trojan. Yes, I scanned. No, there is no trojan. No, there is no trojan. At least, not in my copy. Say it with me: no, there is no trojan.

EDITED TO ADD:  It appears at least one torrent did end up with a trojan included. Mine was clean. YMMV. This is why it's bad to make unequivocal statements on the internet, it's just tempting fate.

Backstory:

Razor1911 claims the Reloaded release was 'beta' and that theirs is full retail. Quote from them:


The version in code_version.txt is as Razor claims above. If you want me to check somewhere else, please provide instructions.

Here's the contents of my Bin folder under Reloaded, sorry if the formatting sucks which I suspect it will:

code_version.txt      58      04/22/2009 19:59   
Default.ini         1,126      04/22/2009 22:55   
dialoglogo128x128.jpg      22,685      10/18/2008 18:01   
eauninstall.ico         10,134      08/11/2008 13:41   
gameplay.package      7,934,562   04/22/2009 19:52   
GL.ini            202,524      03/13/2009 10:48   
GraphicsCards.sgr      37,730      04/22/2009 22:52   
GraphicsRules.sgr      32,263      04/22/2009 22:52   
paul.dll         300,304      04/22/2009 22:53   
Resource.cfg         384      04/22/2009 22:52   
scripts.package         999,475      04/22/2009 19:52   
Shaders_Win32.precomp      8,750,539   05/23/2009 09:25      
simcore.package         1,689,001   03/26/2009 09:32   
Sims3.ico         174,684      10/21/2008 16:48   
Sims3.ini         2,534      04/22/2009 22:52   
Sims3GDF.dll         4,495,632   04/22/2009 22:53   
Sims3Launcher.exe      1,275,152   04/22/2009 22:53   
Sims3Launcher.ini      150      04/22/2009 22:52   
Sims3Launcher.exe.config   627      03/26/2009 09:31   
skuversion.txt         152      04/22/2009 22:55   
TS3.exe      [Cracked]   29,761,224   05/17/2009 13:28   
TSLHelper.exe         54,544      04/22/2009 22:53   
TSLHost.dll         4,560,144   04/22/2009 22:53   
winui.dll         238,864      04/22/2009 22:53


And under Razor:

code_version.txt      58      04/29/2009 18:49   -a--
Default.ini         1,102      04/29/2009 19:57   -a--
eauninstall.ico         10,134      08/12/2008 14:02   -a--
gameplay.package      7,934,583   04/29/2009 18:42   -a--
GraphicsCards.sgr      37,730      04/29/2009 19:54   -a--
GraphicsRules.sgr      32,263      04/29/2009 19:54   -a--
Resource.cfg         384      04/29/2009 19:54   -a--
scripts.package         999,475      04/29/2009 18:42   -a--
Shaders_Win32.precomp      8,750,539   04/29/2009 18:34   -a--
simcore.package         1,689,001   03/26/2009 09:32   -a--
Sims3.ico         174,684      10/21/2008 16:48   -a--
Sims3.ini         2,534      04/29/2009 19:54   -a--
Sims3GDF.dll         4,495,632   04/29/2009 19:55   -a--
Sims3Launcher.exe      1,275,152   04/29/2009 19:55   -a--
Sims3Launcher.ini      150      04/29/2009 19:54   -a--
Sims3Launcher.exe.config   627      03/26/2009 09:31   -a--
skuversion.txt         152      04/29/2009 19:57   -a--
TS3.exe   [Original]      11,285,776   04/29/2009 19:55   -a--
TS3.exe   [Cracked]      11,285,776   05/25/2009 20:30   -a--
TSLHelper.exe         54,544      04/29/2009 19:55   -a--
TSLHost.dll         4,560,144   04/29/2009 19:55   -a--

If you want me to check anything else, please be specific.

Someone asked for this already, but can you check the game version of the Razor release to see if it's actually the final version?

Check the file SKUversion.txt in Game/Bin. Top line should say something like "GameVersion=" and then the version number we can compare to the supposed release one.

GameVersion = 1.0.631.00002

Well, that last bit seems a bit off, but it's obviously close-enough-to-release version if not the real deal.

For what it's worth, that's the same version the launcher reports. (Not sure how the rld version worked, but you can use the launcher and it seems to successfully check for updates. No registration nags.)

Couple other things:

--I'm able to play my saved neighborhood from the RLD release

--The censor hack works (not sure if I have AngryGuyHack or LolGuyHack).

Thanks for the info, Tasha. What will be interesting is to see if this version has the same kinks as the reloaded one.

Apparently some people even had success patching the Razor version with the release day 632 patch from EA, so it seems close enough to the real deal.

What's your source on that?

Interesting, not sure where they'd get that. My launcher checks for updates and then reports being uptodate.

This may be my imagination but I feel like it's running a little smoother.

Heh, IRC, so don't put too much stock into it. I'll try it later myself though and report back how it went.

Edit: Nevermind, misunderstood the question (and response) about source.

You mean, you downloaded it the internet-faster kind of way? :o. Please tell haha I want this version now, instead of leaked. So how about some spilling of the beans :p i dont like torrents as they take to long and make me feel guilty :)

So what's the hypothesis here? Is Razor1911 full of crap, or no?

Well, I also just noticed one of the main package files has a newer date than the reloaded:

FullBuild0.package, dated 4/29 rather than 4/23.

Razer1911 has been around for like a zillion years (they both have), I doubt they would bother putting the effort into a fake-newer release. (But I really don't know much about the warez scene or rivalries.) And if they did, I doubt they'd drill down and change the date on additional random files.

That said, it really doesn't seem much different, and we're talking a week newer. I suspect most of the bugs and annoyances will be present at retail, but I'm mostly interested in seeing if my occasional game freezes might stop with this one. But I have to go eat goopy carbonara in real life before I can test further.

ETA: Haha, on a whim I just checked wikipedia, and there is a razer1911 article. Quote: "According to the computer crime division of the United States Department of Justice, Razor 1911 is the "oldest game software piracy ring on the internet".

Is the Reloaded version really different enough that it won't be able to be patched with the official patch?  I really don't want to spend another 2.5 days downloading yet another version of TS3.

Ok, I can at least confirm that updating with the Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe that can be found at EA works with the Razor release. Trying to update again makes the patch state that the game already is updated. Strange thing is that this is not reflected in the launcher, good thing is that the main executable doesn't change which means the crackfix still works. Maybe this patch is a secret EAxis plan to make all arr-mateys walk the plank?  ;)
Anyone who knows if there's any way to check the version ingame?

Edit: Nevermind. skuversion.txt says 1.0.632.00002. Strange that the launcher still reports 1.0.631 though.

So wait, if you use the official patch on the Razor release, you don't need to update the crack? That's unusual. Are you sure the patch fixes are holding? I guess without a proper changelog it's hard to say...

In about 3 and a half hours I'll have installed the Razor version and will immediately begin testing.

If you're talking about .615 build, then no, that won't take the patch - I tried and the updater told me it hit an invalid file as soon as it came across skuversion.txt.  I was tempted to manually change the build number in that file to .631, but since there may be other changes (or places that number is recorded inside of the files), I left it as was.

I'm also currently grabbing the Razor version to see whether it makes any difference...

Yeah, I found it kinda strange too. Either the TS3.exe installed by the razor iso is precracked and makes the patch installer choke without ouputting any errors (which also sounds strange) or the 632 only changes stuff outside the .exe.

Here's how I did it:

1. Install Razor release.
2. Backup TS3.exe
3. Install 632
4. Compare TS3.exe filesize and version numbers to my backup, pre patch TS3.exe, which checked out identical.
5. Install crackfix.

Just confirming the 632 patching works, now that I figured out where the heck you guys were getting it from. What this means, who knows.

Now I'm off to try to get my game to crash.

I'm in the process of downloading the Razor release to see what's different. I was one of the people that had a perfectly successful Reloaded version (no crashes, bugs, or missing music) so I guess we'll see.

I'm not interested in the leaked game, but I am curious about the .632 patch.  Does anyone know what the filesize for the patch is and whether or not it can be obtained separately come the release day (I'm assuming that if you're able to get it now, I suppose you can.

It seems to be available as an xml file. But I don't have any experience with those. Don't even know how to use that.

So... Does the Razor version have any new content or clothing?

Reports have been saying that there's nothing significantly different about the Razor version versus the Reloaded one, except the version number and perhaps a few more or less bugs, assuming EAxis bothered to do anything about them between those two builds.

So no new objects, no new clothing, still no word on the 2nd neighborhood...

I'm currently downloading Razor version, not only cause it looks like newer version, but cause I like to hoard ISOs. Can some one confirm or advise, what the difference is between the two?
Is there more clothes, objects etc, or is it more just error report fixes/more back end related?

Patch is a standalone patcher:

Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe   10,720,392   05/25/2009 19:40

That's 10mb or so.

I did just notice something new in my game: I actually had neighbors show up and greet my Sim after move-in. This is the first time in about six test households (and additional movings) that this has happened, on my first new hood/Sim after installing and patching razor.. Not sure if this is related, probably not.

Ugh, I'm really not sure it's worth redownloading the whole thing at this point.  I did manage to free up more space on my main drive, but still.   :(

That happened in my game once from the previous version, so I don't think thats new in this build. But it did only happen once, I thought it was strange that it only happened once, and not before or after. But I thought it was because they actually had neighbors! Previously the houses I had lived in were up away from the town, so I figured it was simply because they actually had neighbors next to them and thats why they came.

Where are you guys getting the patch? Just so I'm clear. As far as I know, I'm getting it here: http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.0.632.00107_from_1.0.631.00107.exe

Correct?

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4913395/The_Sims_3_-_Razor1911
Seems to be a torrent. Definitely needs more seeders. I'm going to DL this (hate Rapidshare part files) and stick around for a bit to seed.

Even no-account-rapidshare should be faster than torrents.

So far there isn't a lot of information on whether it is worth it or isn't worth it, so I'd just wait it out if I were you.

If I were torrenting (rather than getting it off usenet) I'd need more solid data on what's different about the 2 releases.

Oh, and I've never had Sims come greet me when I move in. Interesting.

Real game is 631. If Razor's is 631, it is real, QED.

Score!!! does it have anything more to it? or is that EAxis crap we got in the first one all we get in the "real" ?

Zazazu:

Well, there is this (http://www.mininova.org/tor/2621172) on mininova, with a whole 12 seeders, but given how long it took to download the last time I'm not real excited about it.

Coltraz, as I understand it, if you want to be able to install official patches you need the new version, and there may be mods that only work with the new version as well.  If I were planning on playing TS3 long-term I would probably torrent it, but I'm not.

Torrent delivery time is 8hrs 17 min from start of download. Should be a bit less, because things go faster in the wee hours of teh morning...I usually notice that real download time is about 80% of first estimate. Rapidshare file is in 26 parts. Each part has a 3 min waiting period before download starts. Approximate download time is 13 minutes (plus 3 minute waiting = 16 minutes). 26 parts * 16 min/each = almost exactly 7hrs. 80% of current torrent estimate is 6.6hrs. Add to that the fact that Rapidshare likes to crap out and say you can't download for another hour, plus requires more finangling on my part, and torrent always wins for me.

ETA: and 5 seconds later, I'm getting estimated download of 3hrs 52 minutes.

That might be for the US version since that one ends with a 7. Razor release is worldwide version and ends with a 2. I got mine here: http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe

Unless you have a private tozza account, I'm pulling it off mine,, and max speeds, mind you Australia speeds are shit all compared to everywhere else. LULZ!

Thats what reconnect-thingies are for ;-)

Yeah, had my first version in 1 hour and 15 minutes. Although extracting took about another half an hour (damd double packaging).

Beats me. I'd have to actually get it first. Despite how Awesome I am, I am not magic.

Strange...The one that ends with .00002 is only 10mb, but the one with the .00107 ending is 17mb.  I suppose it's even a newer patch?  Or does the ending reflect only the game's region?

I had neighbors visit my first family and a few of the later ones with RLD release, but it usually didn't happen.

didn't they announce some time ago that the 2nd neighborhood would be downloadable for registered users a few weeks after launch?

The last number denotes region AFAIK, but the fact that the patch is 107 instead of 007 might mean it's a newer version, not sure though.

Speaking 100% out of my ass, with no real knowledge at all on the subject...

From the sound of the second downloadable neighborhood, they're going to make you download half the game from a website that can only be accessed by registering with the CD key on the back of the highly misleading instruction booklet. So, in theory, you have to buy the game to get all the stuff. (At least in their mind.) Of course, if that's the case, it won't be long before someone figures out how to Arrrr all of the extra content and make it available to the general "we don't want no rootkit" public.

Found the following on Usenet just now. Dunno if it is important.
nfo file for an 8.5 meg rar in alt.binaries.cores

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                      ▀▀▀▀▀▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀▀                   1 9 1 1         <JED>


 ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
 │                         Razor 1911 proudly presents:                       │
 │                             The Sims 3 Crackfix                            │
 │                             (C) Electronic Arts                            │
 ├────────────────────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────────┤
 │ Date: 2009-05-25                   │ Game Type : Simulation                │
 │ Size: Small                        │ Protection: DVD-Check, Serial         │
 └────────────────────────────────────┴───────────────────────────────────────┘

 Game Notes
 ~~~~~~~~~~
 The   freedom   of  The  Sims  3  will  inspire  you  with  endless  creative
 possibilities   and  amuse  you  with  unexpected  moments  of  surprise  and
 mischief!  Create  over  a  million  unique  Sims  and  control  their lives.
 Customize  everything from their appearances, to their personalities and even
 the  home  of their dreams. Then, send your Sims out to explore new locations
 around  town  and  to  meet  other  Sims  in  the  neighborhood. Go online to
 download  exclusive  content  and  show  off your own creations to the world.
 With  all-new  quick challenges and rewarding game play, The Sims 3 gives you
 the  freedom  to choose whether (or not!) to fulfill your SimsÆ destinies and
 make their wishes come true.

 Note:
 ~~~~~
 We missed some ingame dvd checks. Here is the fix. Enjoy!
 
 For the guys who nuked us:
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 The EA updater dont works with Releoaded release because
 the updater is only working for Sims 3 version start from 1.0.631.00001.
 Reloaded is 1.0.615.00107 and not final :)
 
 http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/sims3_sku2_update_manifest.xml
 
 
 
 Install Notes
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 1. Extract RAR
 2. Copy crack to <InstallDir>\Game\Bin
 3. Have Fun!
 
 
 Razor 1911 Greetings                            
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                          
 Playing beta games is like having sex with a condom!
 

                                                                              
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                        Razor 1911   /__\   Since 1985
                                    /\  /\
                                   /__\/__\

              SUPPORT THE COMPANIES THAT PRODUCE QUALITY SOFTWARE!
     IF YOU ENJOYED THIS PRODUCT, BUY IT!  SOFTWARE AUTHORS DESERVE SUPPORT!!

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lemmiwinks: yeah, that is razor's cracked exe, they just packaged it separately.

The 00107 patch will not apply to this version, states wrong region.

There is a separate thread for downloading, installing, and running the game.


That makes the most sense, and explains the double speak used earlier in the AP news article. If it is only part of the game, it's because EA wants us to download the rest from them. Personally, I fail to see why a second neighborhood is supposed to lure anybody in when they've got such a limited selection of buy mode objects anyway. Why do I need a second neighborhood if everybody is using the same furniture with different textures?

Hmm... Now I don't know which patch to go for! I guess I'll use the one you used, Krippakrull ... unless the razor version is US and needs the one I linked to. Blah!  ???

Yeah, I'm not that excited about another neighborhood--whoo, the same thing with a differeny layout. However, if it turns out there is more content that'll be available, that'll be something.

I don't think I'll bother with Razor, though, as people are saying there aren't any new objects or outfits. I'll wait for my preorder to show up.

After updating it... will this make it the final/lastest update?
Or will the offcial DVD release be more upto date even after the patch?
Stupid question I spose because we wont know until its offical release (it might come with more stuff, just the same version?)

EDIT:
This is why im wondering if the Offical release will be jammed with more stuff as a pose to the Razor release.. Hmmm

Hope this helps to end the version # confusion....  I think this is right.

Digital Download is version # 1.0.631.00107 and the patch for it is Sims3_1.0.632.00107_from_1.0.631.00107.exe

DVD is version # 1.0.631.00002 and the patch for it is Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe

RZR being patchable through the launcher official EA patch exe means it's the retail version.

And to add more info:

The first one above gives a region error if attempted to use with the razor release.

The second one works with the razor release, so I guess we can assume theirs is an R2 DVD rip? (I don't know where the above facts come from, just following the logic).

Also, to be very clear, we are patching the game with standalone executables. The laucher's updater does seem to at least check for a new version but says the version is up to date. In other words (to the best of my knowledge), we are NOT patching via the launcher, at least not yet.

Also, I haven't been able to get this version to crash yet.

How in the world is that possible?!?  I get an estimated time of 2 yrs 16 days!  LOL

Hi there, I had neighbors showing up to greet my first Sims in Sims 3 on my RLD installed Sims 3... and I have a question: can I patch the RLD one with that patch?

Could give it a try, at worst you'll get an error. Just back up your TS3.EXE first.

I've had that happen on every new main family with the Reloaded version. (I've reset a few times).

That's fantastic...Hopefully that is the case on the patches.  Would be better if they were handled better but hey, can't complain at least we are getting patches at a faster rate this time around.  I don't suppose...if it's not too much trouble to get a screenie of the patch?  Would save me some time on June 2nd so I can actually play the game for once rather than uploading and dealing with the patches :P

thanks for the reply  ;) :-*

Your ISP sucks ass, most likely. I'm on Comcast, highest highspeed for the price of the standard highspeed. Somehow, I'm ridiculously good at getting free upgrades. People think my miserliness is bargaining, I guess. Right now, I'm at just over 2 hrs ETA.

EndlessSims, please open your eyes and shut your mouth. You will not last long on this forum. We don't particularly care for dumbasses who want everything given to them on a platter and are incapable of simple reading comprehension.

Overenthusiastic firewalling can also bork torrents.

I'm beginning to suspect Endless does not speak English. Or maybe just doesn't read it.

There is nothing new in the Razor release that I can find. It does seem to run better on my computer than the Reloaded release did. I maxed all of the settings and only got lag when moving the camera too quickly and using the 3x/4x speed. Can't comment on improvement crash/bug wise, since I never had any while playing the Reloaded release. Also, my save games still work.

And not forwarding ports and what not.. all the lovely things n00bs of downloading dont know what to do.. not calling any one a n00b.. only my dad.

I was using windows 7 x64.. and was having it crash all the time.. i went back to Windows 7 x86 (7125 or what ever it is) and seems to be working a bit better, saving i get erorr 13s now and then. but play on and works ok.
I lost 4 hours of RL time last night, forgot to save, and it crashed.. when i was havign a wedding party with 10+ sims on the lot.. that effing pissed me off!!

Possible, I suppose, on both counts.  I'm on Verizon DSL, supposedly the highest speed one.  And both my firewall and router are configured correctly for BitTorrent.  However, I am getting complaints from the peanut gallery that "the intertubes is slower than crap, Ma!"  So, I guess I will cancel it out and just wait to see if this is worth fooling with.  Thanks for answering!

Any word on Story Progression in the new version?  Maybe they got it working and Pes doesn't have to spend time messing with it.

EndlessSims...really? I predict your a troll. Really, How did you find this post if you can't find anything else? There are simple navigation tools, unless your five...Anyway, back on topic. I think I may just keep the older build and mess with it until June 2nd. Its only a few days away. Good luck though guys, sounds awesome that the launcher is fully functional and such. I'm also gonna guess it's overall securom free(?)

Did some more checking and there are actually multiple patches.

http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/sims3_sku1_update_manifest.xml - 1.0.631.00001
http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/sims3_sku2_update_manifest.xml - 1.0.631.00002
http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/sims3_sku3_update_manifest.xml - 1.0.631.00003
http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/sims3_sku5_update_manifest.xml - 1.0.631.00005
http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/patches/sims3_sku7_update_manifest.xml - 1.0.631.00107

depending on your region.

If you look at the 2nd line of each page you will see this...

<patchTarget TargetContentId="sims3_dd">  for version # 1.0.631.00107
<patchTarget TargetContentId="sims3_sku2"> for version # 1.0.631.00002

for sim3_sku7 i'm pretty sure sims3_dd refers to the Digital Download version, the other patches are for different regions.

If you look at the rest of the lines on the pages, you will see the different codes for each region.

 :o

If that is the case, then managing independent patch .exe files is going to be a huge pain.  Suppose I'll have to wait and see.

yes it does

censor blur is in both versions until you install the mod to remove it

What update do we use for the Razor patch?
I would assume that when we get the official release.. running the good-old-EA-updater would locate the correct update required depending on region?
Unless we wanted to use one of these for it instead of installing that horrible updater thing... unless it will be needed for other TS3 related downloads?

I hope the Razor one stops the random "shut-my-computer-off" crash.

for RZR release, download 631.00002
for RLD release, you could try 631.00107 but it may not work due to mismatched files

the updater/launcher is automatically installed with the game, but it probably won't be required for anything except buying the overpriced furniture packs. you can completely bypass the launcher by running TS3.exe directly, this doesn't seem to cause any problems.

The usual cause of "Intertubes slower than crap" is upstream overload. Find out what your maximum upstream is and cap ButtTorrent to use no more than about 50-75% of that, or it will actually choke performance.

Ok cheers will give this one a go when RZR is finished..


Yes, I am too hoping this happens.. The number ive times ive had it randomly crash on me.. i rekon I have lost about 24 real time hours having to redo everything ive lost! grrr.

Ouch, sounds like a hardware issue.

(I guess I'll go ahead and say it--I assume I'm not the only person who must try five or ten times each time to get the threads to load or to make a post?)

I hope it's not a Hardware issue. I'm running an Nvidia 8800 GTS 512 card, and a 2.40 quad core with 4gb ram

You aren't.  ;) I think it's because there are so many people on here.

I would tihnk its the game itsself.. ive noticed on 4 computers that I and my friends/brother have all with different hardware.. Intel based though.. and they have had crash issues with the first release.
I'm running dualcore, 9800gtx, 4gb ram, windows 7 x86. and not having nearly as many issues as i was with x64 windows 7.
other friend is on vista, and brother on vista too, and both having freeze issues, and random crashing, and from the look its not hardware. its just the game. will have to test with RZR release, but from the look of the posts.. people have had very little with RZR release. *fingers crossed*

Shutting-computer-down kind of crash sounds like overheating to me. Maybe you should check your temperatures.

Oh yes, the loading is extreme :-). I also get half loaded pages with the html of posts showing :(.

Random shutdown is caused by overheating. Clean out your computer and put it in a cold room.

the game looks to be RAM intense, i noticed mine was using 1.8g odd with Windows 7, so maybe your RAM might be shitting its self.
But nothing like a good lot of TLC, and cleaning the shit out from around the fans..
Might also pay to check the windows logs and see what is actually shitting its self in the background.
And install some hardware monitoring software, Everest or something along those lines.

bad RAM causes bluescreens or hardlocks (or reboots if you haven't turned that option off)

total shutdowns are usually overheating but could also be a bad power supply

Most MoBo companies offer tools to check temps and what not.. Everest (i think) is also a nice app, to check temps and volts etc. Might be worth having a look and those outputs, and do some research on what temps etc your hardware can run at etc. depending on Intel or AMD, and cores etc.

Just noticed a few days ago that my Power supply fan wasn't spinning ARGH! Guess that could be an issue. Gotta buy some compressed air and blow some dust and crap from the fans..... SHEESH how did all this dust get in there?????

I also have the same video card  Nvidia 8800 GTS 512 there is a tool by EVGA it is called Precision EVGA advanced graphics tuning it monitors your GPU temp and also allows you to turn the fan speeds up to help cool down the GPU. I have also noticed with this vid card though it is a heat magnet I think I might have to put my water cooling back in my rig to help with the temps!

Does this mean no securom?

for the love of god.. lets hope so.. they promised us no Securom.. jerks!

Shit. I think I've read the answer to my question in one of the Sims 3 threads, but, I can't find it by searching. How can I save my progress from the reloaded game version and put it into the razor version?

my documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Saves  ???

Probably if you just leave your My Documents stuff alone all of the saved games will be intact.

correct, because it would run of the environment variables provided by the system registry.
but if your formatting c:\ u would wanna move these. because commonly users have there docs set to c:\users\etc.

I played the razor release for a few hours. I patched it as well.

Anything noteworthy:

- I had music problems with my old save. I loaded up my old save and the music problems persisted. I started a new game and suddenly, all the music worked again. Anyone have any idea why this is? (to be a bit more specific... the music problem is that buy/build is silent and all stereo channels aside from "custom" produce no music.)

- I get a notice saying bills are ready to be paid and click here to pay them... I think people mentioned this as part of the rld release but I never got it, all I got was the repo man when I forgot about bills.

- There is a "Wah, wah, wahhhh..." sort of tune when something breaks, like the shower or toilet. I'm pretty sure that never happened before.

- There are more things in c/documents/electronic arts/sims 3 than there was before.

- I applied the censor blur overwrite and for some reason, it didn't work. Someone else said it worked with the new version, but not for me. I will give it another try...

- Still dreadful white specks in hair. (http://gi111.photobucket.com/groups/n136/I1EFIA2UGW/fuckingwhitespecks.jpg?t=1243318329)

- No performance or graphic quality increase as far as I can tell. It's still dark as hell in Sim's houses unless there's about 12 windows and two lights.

- Disabled story progression is still fail (http://gi111.photobucket.com/groups/n136/I1EFIA2UGW/Screenshot-2-2.jpg?t=1243318411), fail (http://gi111.photobucket.com/groups/n136/I1EFIA2UGW/Screenshot-3-1.jpg?t=1243318411), fail (http://gi111.photobucket.com/groups/n136/I1EFIA2UGW/Screenshot-5-1.jpg?t=1243318408)...

Makes me wonder what they fixed, if not that...

This is definitely in the Reloaded version too.

Interesting version info from Zed:

Has any one tried running a BeyondCompare to the entire Sims3 dir(s) after install?
Ill check back in a few hours when I get home, and ill copy all Sims3 folders from RLD release, and isntal RZR release (+patch) and run a BeyondCompare on all dirs and post resuilts.

Im sure its been asked before, but so that I can read on from here when I get home, what patch are we applying to the RZR image (as im not sure what region this is)?

Is it just me, or as soon as I went to the launcher (having previously run it via the direct .exe) and running RLD version - after it demanded  my installation of the EA download manager, I got a pop-up: "The follow program: EADM is attempting to access secure files on your hard drive - click here to cancel or stop"...

Phone home much?

Surprise, surprise, it's still spyware.

Enjoy your SecuROMs.

Hmmm. When I first installed mine, I told it not to install the download manager. Mine hasn't tried to phone home yet. This was the reloaded version BTW. I'm going to try the Razor version now.

That tells me all I need to know.


I did the same thing. My arr game won't go over the internet. So what use do I have with the EA download manager. ;)

I'm downloading the razor version right now, but where do you get the patch and how do you install it  ???

I tried to change households in reloaded version and most of my sims' inventory was gone, not all of it though. With rzr version everything stays intact. Can someone test this also, to confirm?

It's not based on version. It's based on a timer effect, at some point the sims you don't control will purge their inventories, and everything will be lost. As far as gamecode differences go, there are practically no differences between them, as the game had long since gone into feature lock.

It's not related Tash. I'm still running the reloaded version and my neighbors didn't appear to greet my new sims until I created my 4th household. It kind of surprised me when it happened because it was the first time

I have the reloaded version on my vista 64 machine and my son's vista 32 machine. Neither of us have experienced a crash yet

This is the reason why I don't need to download this Version anymore. Since I also never had any Problems with Performance in the "Beta", there is no need to.

As long as they don't fix this, the game will be like a dying Horse, wich will rott away some time soon.

EA may not fix it, but if the new forums here are any indication, Pescado will (or die trying) and his hacks may not be compatible with/may not work properly with the earlier version of the game.

If you have the RLD version and then download the Razor version, do you uninstall the RLD version?

Think about it. Why, oh why, would you keep two copies of the same game on your harddrive?

Maybe he means can you just overwrite it?

Thanks Inge, I thought I was speaking English. That's exactly what I meant

Hmmm. Just installed the Razor version and the game won't start. It says it's running but it isn't. I uninstalled all the game saves and everything and still nothing. going to re try the Reloaded version see what happens.

I can't even get it to install. Trying to, some temp file attempts access to the 'net and then my system freezes. I am not pleased.

Remove the EADM Folder from TS3 in the Program Files. Solution was posted along with one of the torrents.

Does anybody know if there is a working link for the patch(es)? I finally got the Razor version to finish downloading and wanted to see if the patch caused any noticeable difference, but all the links are giving me a 404 message.

EAxis yanked all the patches because of Pirate Cat, it seems. According to our information, however, it doesn't actually change any USEFUL files.

I couldn't go more than 5-minutes before getting BSODs in Vista x64 with the code # 0x00000124.  I ended up downgrading my Zalman "super silent" low speed CPU cooler with a noisy AMD Ajigo 4-pipe stock cooler.  Now my computer sounds like a jet engine with TS3 running, but doesn't crash.  TS3 is rock-solid stable for days on end now.  TS3 will definitely expose any weakness in your CPU cooling system.

Figures. I tried to download it yesterday, but my internet was being a PITA. Oh well.

During install you are given the option to also install EADM. In the explanation of EADM it says it will connect to the internet. When it asks if you want EADM or not, click no. If you click yes and it tries to connect to the 'net, then there's no surprise, because it said it would do that.

Also, Kenny, I uninstalled the RLD version before installing the Razor version. When it asked if I wanted to delete my saves, I clicked no, and suddenly the game started up. I closed the game and it immediately started up again! I had to ctrl alt delete and end process on TS3.exe and the setup I was running to uninstall it! I then just manually copied my save folder to my desktop and when the uninstall setup got to asking me whether I wanted to keep my user data or not, I clicked NO.

Kind of odd.

And isn't anyone else astounded that story progression is F'd in the release version?? The photos I included are fine evidence, right?

I think when Pes releases his mod, I'm going to start a new game, package the Sims I have and put them into it, and start over fresh. (Again...) When I play this it's with the non-committal view that all I'm really doing is testing it... not the best way to get yourself enthralled in a game.

Wow that is weird, but thanks for the info coltraz.

Okay. The Razor version doesn't work on my system. I just reinstalled the reloaded and it boots up fine. :'( I wonder now if I try the Reloaded .exe file with the Razor install.
Anyone else have any issues? Also I noticed the Razor .exe is 10.7MB The original is 16.5MB and the Reloaded is 28.3MB anyone else have these numbers? Maybe something is off with my Razor file.

Already stated that I can't even get it to install. I'm trying a different torrent right now, an uncompressed one. Unfortunately, it's going to take a year and a day, and I'd already uninstalled the Reloaded version and .iso. So. Screwed for a bit.

Which torrent did you guys who are having trouble use?

I would just use Rapidshare.  I use a handy program called Rapidshare Auto Downloader (http://rapidautodl.blogfa.com/).
For me it takes <24hrs as a free user on a slow Wifi connection.  I started out with uTorrent, but it was estimating 1 to 2 weeks.

Do you have a rapidshare link? If so could I get the link or PM it if you can't post it?

Grabbed the Razor1911 release by torrent, it completed in about three hours. I don't understand how you people manage to make these things take two weeks or more.

Once again, TorrentSeed to the rescue.  ETA of about 3 hours.

That's good, that's how long mine took with a direct connection.

Are you getting it off a private tracker by chance?

When I used to use public torrents, an average game would take about 5 hours or so. I get sometimes top speeds torrenting things from private sites though.

I dont have much experience with these :) But my first dl that worked was from torrentseed(leaked version) I only had to wait 57mins in the re-download of it. I might try and download the full version...Don't know yet, I probably won't :p. Anyone found any huge bugs that weren't in the leaked?

I got it pretty quickly also From both Demonoid and seedgames. I'm just trying to find out if there is a problem with the Razor exe file being so small...

Razor exe v1.0 on disk is bad, you need to get the "crackfix".

I did. And it doesn't run the screen flashes like it is about to begin and when I try to either uninstall it or run it again, it says it's already running, but it's not found in the task manager either.

Private trackers are pointless and defeating the purpose of Pirate Cat.

Anyone have a link to the crackfix? I may have gotten a wonky version. and will I have to uninstall the Reloaded version or will the Razor one overwrite it?

http://is.gd/Fnfj

WOW....My stupid gene kicked in on that one. I asked though just in case someone found one with no issues. You can't trust google for everything sometimes.....Thanks.....(:

Bah, only 2 people seeding out of a possible 208.  I won't count the peers.  :P

Hi. I've been hanging around here for a while. Just decided to register to ask this question:

What (or who) is Pirate Cat? (seen mentioned twice in this thread).

I googled it and did not get an answer.

Thanks!
-Heather

(http://cats.moreawesomethanyou.com/piratecat.jpg)

The crackfix file should have a certain file with the extension .001. Open up that file in WinRAR, and the cracked-EXE should be inside it. Extract it to your Game/Bin folder, and you should be good to go.

LOL! That is supreme. Truly awesome. :) Thanks.

For sad.....No can run the Razor version.....): ah well....

I downloaded the Razor version and patched it. Everything went fine. Maybe you got a bad download, Deadclown.

I haven't noticed anything different in game between the two versions. I'm glad I have the latest version and will patiently wait for the fixes.

There IS another torrent I can try from Demonoid. Looks like it's full of fixes and quickpar checks so I'll try that one out

Is there a solution for the speed control in the razor release? :(

Is the performance any better in the Razor release? As in, no 99% load and spiking graphics card temps for ATI users that some of us got with the Reloaded version?

I'm off for the second day of Seeing If The Razor Version Crashes My Otherwise Stable Machine Like Reloaded Did. Will report back.

Hi, I'm new here :)
I have a question, does the razor version has more resolutions to choose???
the reloaded one only had 800 x 600, 1024 x 768, 1360 x 768... my monitor is 1280 x 720, widescreen, so I couldn' play it properly with reloaded's version

My reloaded had my 1680/1050 resolution.

maybe it's my video card that isn't recognized correctly by the game :(
I have an ATI 4830  ???

Okay I tried the RZR install with the reloaded exe file and it seems to work fine. My processor temp goes up to 143.6 F I started playing with that EVGA Precision app and turned the fan up to max and played with the core clock. But because my PSU fan seems to be not working I didn't try playing for too long. I picked up a cheathappens trainer and I'm going to check it against the version I'm supposed to be running. If all of the options work then my version is fine.



I JUST tried that "patch" and it worked!!!!!

There's a torrent just arrived at the Bay that claims to be a patch that'll upgrade the Reloaded version to the Razor version.

It's about 711mb. Is this even possible?

Anyone have an alternate link for the patch?

Re: Resolution, I have been able to get my NVIDIA/Dell monitor config into 1900X1200 widescreen under both Reloaded and Razor.

Razor continues to not crash on me, whereas Reloaded would occasionally cause system freezes.

It haven't crashed for me, yet lol

Are there improvements in the Razor release, like the time passing correctly and such?

I installed this last night, after uninstalling, RLD release... and normally after 30mins or more of RLD it would have crashed. i played for 6 hrs, not one crash, and no Error: 13 when saving either, I then let it run all night, apart from the dickhead sim not paying the bills, and waking up to a house with half my shit missing, no crashes! w00t!
And I also installed one of the pacthes that seemed to work too, but I then had to repleace the EXE with the crackfix one.

I would say this is just junk. this should be over 4gb if its including both the game, crackfix and update.

EAxis couldnt get this shit right in TS2, i doubt they would get this fixed in the first patch of TS3, but I have noticed that there isn't as much B.S. as what went on in RLD release.

I initially had the Reloaded version. I downloaded the Razor version and installed it, upgrading from one version to the other. I tried to apply the patch and it barfed, complaining that my game was the wrong region. Today at work, I thought maybe I had an unholy hybrid situation from the "upgrade" process. So I uninstalled the game and installed a "pure" Razor version. It patched fine. Both version have been stable on my computer.

Some people here seem unfamiliar with torrents. They almost always initially report a very long download time. It's primarily a function of how many peers are available. I find that anything over about a dozen seeders available gives a nice quick download. But it takes my client a little while to recognize them all. Let a torrent download for a half hour or so before you give up on it for taking too long.

Best bet is to stick to a valid source for torrents, I;m with a few Private sites, and always getting max downloads from them, and there is never any dodgy stuff put on there, like you find on isohunt and piratebay, all the scene release go to private, and the free ones, sometimes you will find proper stuff there, but most of the time, all i have found is junk! Demoniod isn't a bad free site, you still have to be weary though.

Must be that card. My Ati 4870 card and reloaded copy has a max resolution at 1600x1200. Not that it can actually use those settings. I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you. A lot of people, including myself, had graphics issues with the higher resolutions. Your card may not even be able to handle higher settings.

sure, just install both versions and use a patch maker.

but it seems like it should be much smaller since there weren't really any major changes. maybe they just used a crappy patcher.

I had the same problem - installed the razor release over the reloaded release, and it updated, but every patch file said it was the wrong region.  I had to uninstall the reloaded and install the razor version "clean" and it patched after that.

The game does seem to play without the crashes I was experiencing with the reloaded version; I haven't seen whether the time passes any differently.

Ok, I recently uninstalled my RLD version and installed the new RZR version but when I apply the patch, it doesn't want to work... am I doing something wrong?  ???

What patch are you using?

Have a look here... http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15043.msg432855.html#msg432855
And then a few posts up from that are the links. See how you go...

Is there a difference between the censor blur on both versions, does one cover more or less area than another?  The reason I ask is because someone posted a link to a screenshot of someone in a shower and the blur only covered a small area, unless that small blur is just for the shower.

Link to screen
http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/thesims3/images/0/10/?full_size=1

SHIT I downloaded the digital download one, but I have the physical CD one for RZR... anyone have it? Since EA yanked off the patches.

Have a look a page or 2 back in this forum, there is 2 links to the patches for RZR release, on a mediafile share or something i believe... Id paste it for you, but im just running out for dinner, and had enough time to type all this... Good luck. If you still cant find it... Post back and some one or ill find it for you when I get back.

Well, the only links there are to the official patch and to the .xml thingy... so can anyone mind helping? Pwetty pwease?  :)

Well, after playing the RLD version for a while and not coming across any bugs or anything drastic, I decided to download the RZR version to see what the difference was.

I can honestly say I can't find anything different, but due to the fact that I couldn't find much wrong in the reigon of bugs with the RLD version, then I think it's just because I'm less observant than others.

I must point out though, that there doesn't seem to be ANY difference with the speed between the versions that I have found, both are painfully slow.

Watching my sims sleep isn't my idea of fun.

Erry: No idea if this works as im not able to download it/test it, but heres a link: http://rapidshare.com/files/237479873/Sims3_1.0.632.00002_from_1.0.631.00002.exe

[EDITED for missing out words!]

I'm not sure about the versions, but it could be that the blur for males is smaller because it hasn't to cover the boobs (like in TS2).

For some reason I automatically thought of the person showering in that pic as female, but after reading your response Marhis I took another look and realised it probably is a guy, it didn't even occur to me about the presence or lack of boobs, which makes perfect sense now you mention it.

Yeah that was the link I was looking for. Cheers.
There should also be another one.. to patch it up to 631... and then use that one above to patch to updated... but maybe that one above will do it both. I didn't try just one.
Maybe some one else here might know. (Defo need a wiki for this kinda thing. hehe)

I installed the Razor version, cracked it, then downloaded the updater, ran that, let it update.

It wouldn't work without re-applying the cracked exe though. I can't remember the exact error I got though, I'll find out tonight.

Pretty sure thats what I did too.. and yeah had to put the EXE back in, cause sims3 same up with an error saying couldnt find the CD or something.
And also, i like your "I'll find out tonight" comment, is that a: "im at work now, ill check tonight, but couldnt be with out the sims for more than 30mins so im on the forums"? thats what im like at work... hehe.

Ai yi yi.

If, hypothetically, one has the RELOADED version, and it works, does this hypothetical person who might hypothetically have torrented (hypothetically) the RLD version need to mess about with it more? I'm of the "if it ain't (too) broken, don't fix it" school of thought, and it is working, but I--or, um, this hypothetical person--would also like to avoid patching issues and such in the future.

This hypothetical person is not overly enamored with TS3 "as is", but hypothetically MIGHT enjoy the Awesomeware Version of the game, and thus is not immediately zorching it off his or her hypothetical harddrive.

Something like that.

So. Pros and Cons of messing about with the RLD torrent version / downloading MOAR CRAP to install? Higher version numbers in the Razor version are not particularly compelling reasons, in my mind, as The FOJ  seems to believe the two versions are, for all intents and purposes, identical in every important area.

I am also having this issue with the Reloaded version.  I suspect this is not the fault of the game, but rather due to speed of processor and capability of video card.  I find that when I lower screen resolution (which makes the whole thing look like a stretched  pile of steaming faeces) I can actually discern changes in speed.  I have taken to doing this during sleep and when all sims are at work, just to get through the night, so to speak.


If it's not going to solve the speed problem or offer anything obviously shiny, I am not going to bother with the razor version.  I sense that there is a chance that it still may not be the absolutely confirmed final version, the RLD version works for now, and there will be confirmation of actual final release versions next week.

Got it in one :D I have checked this site far too often since the first pirate release of TS3... I hope my boss isn't aware of this!

I'm a long time lurker though, I just felt an itching need to contribute today. Hmm


I'm guessing that's the problem too. I can easily and seamlessly (spelling?!) play with the graphics/settings maxed and in high resolution, but if this is the only way round the problem without resorting to a new laptop, then so be it! I'll try this tonight, thanks for the suggestion!

I just got the Razor version by that 711mb patch overwrite thing.

...No changes in video card load for me. I'd hoped they'd put a framerate limiter on the thing, but no - ~1200fps at intro movie, and ~400fps at menus according to ATITool (edit: and the Sims 3 fps tool via "fps on" cheat), resulting in graphics card fry-age. (HD3850) Changing the refresh rate does sod all as far as that problem is concerned, btw.

Sorry if this question has already been asked but I've scanned the thread a couple of times now and I cant really find an answer.

I wondered if those people who have downloaded the RLD to Razor patch have been successful and if the Razor version fixes the dump-to-desktop bug I (and from what I've read, many others) have been experiencing? I'm downloading the patch now, but my extremely slow internet connection is making it take longer then I really want to wait, so unless it fixes any of the really frustraiting problems I've been having, I dont really want to clog my computer up with something that is effectively a waste of bandwidth for me.

 :o IT LIVES, thanks, btw.

I think the safest option for those who got the reloaded version (like my mate) is to obtain the reloaded to razor update, but just keep it on standby, along with the crackfix, and don't update the game till we know exactly what it does. At 711 mb we should be seeing hundreds of improvements - and obvious ones.

And then theres the patch:
1.0.631.00001    >  v1.0.631.00002.
Is this correct? For me, the fact that they pulled it could (potentially) be a bad signal, so I'll avoid this patch and wait for the next one I think.

And look here: You lot got called "a pirate group" by someone
http://www.thesims3universe.com/

Personally, because I can't find any real reason why you would NEED to update it with the patch, I would just wait.

The fact they pulled it was because they probably didn't realise someone would 'find' it. Only to be shamed when they realise that their comments about the pirated copy being a pre-release "buggy" version is soon to be absolute toddlewash because everyone is updating their copy to the latest one available.

v0.0.0.11190
 Are there are higher versions of Reloadeds one than v0.0.0.11190 ?

Sadly misinformed bunch, it seems.

Now now, that's not nice throwing accusations around like that... Tut Tut Thesims3universe...

Looks like someone set them straight.  No pirates here, nope nope.

Hook

So *has* anyone actually found any difference between the RLD and RZR versions? I suppose I'll have to upgrade eventually anyway for patching reasons, but the RLD version is running fine on here.

Because, a little bird chewed them a new one...

As mentioned earlier, I am viewing the RZR as another L&P preview edition.  RLD is working fine for now, and if I'm going to all the trouble to acquire/install another version, I will wait until finality is confirmed.  Nobody has noted any differences between the two versions in any case, either in gameplay, or build/buy object availability.

I have a quick question for those of you who have the most recent edition: did EA add a roof adjuster tool like from M&G stuff?
I know there is an universal roof adjuster tool, but I have yet to see an individual roof adjuster tool. I also can't find any cheats
either for it.

There is no individual roof pitch slider, and no cheat (under CTRL-C "help") to change roof heights individually, in the razor/patched version I'm running.

However, this picture of Riverview shows a gambrel roof with two individual pitches, so it's either possible through a later patch/final game release, or they've cheated in another way that we don't get to do.

(http://llnw.thesims3.com/content/global/images/openads_sidebar/NewTown/openads_sidenav_NewTown_eng_US.png)

I read somewhere that the farm in Riverview isn't a playable lot, so I imagine it's created in the same mythical way that the rabbithole buildings are.  Unless there is a way to build a glass dome like the Science building has that I don't know about.

That was my thought also when I saw the barn, that it's only another rabbit hole. I noticed you can't place anything on the roof,
like how the barn did, so I'm going to say that is just another rabbit hole.

A lot of the small stuff that EA left out is really starting to piss me off. No shift-able paintings, lights and mirrors, no individual
roof heights, no ability to allow complete placement of wall items like how every other item is placed, no ability to recolor painting
frames, etc, etc, etc. I have a feeling all these features that they left out is going to be in an expansion pack.

Oh, good call - I hadn't thought about it being a rabbit hole, although I did wonder once I noticed the piece on the roof.

I'm annoyed at the things they left out, too - the roof height is really bugging me.  And the lack of stages, and heights for wall deco.  They've also lost (as far as I can tell) the ability for a sim to lock a door to a chosen group (such as all sims, family, etc).

Some paintings do appear to have recolorable frames, from what I've seen as I've done houses.  Shame they couldn't do it for fences and stairs.

One thing that really annoys me is the lack of half walls, especially since many of the premade houses were designed in a way (railings around kitchens, etc.) that suggests that SOMEone must have thought, "Gee, a half wall would be perfect here". 

I.Am.She, thanks for the alternate link to the EA patch.

I did a binary compare and the updates were very underwhelming.  Only 3 files changed:
Default.ini - added "InstallationRequired = 0"
GraphicsRules.sgr - in the very last line with the #, changed "éE?¿-žšKa‡•�÷À†d¿}³ä" to "0bfffcc9753aabac325f".
skuversion.txt - changed "1.0.631.00002" to "1.0.632.00002".

That's all.

I downloaded and installed the Reloaded version, and then for shits and grins the Razor version. Right off the bat with the Razor version I noticed less crashing, though it still happens, and a very slight speed up in the fast forward options. However, it could be because of the fresh install rather than any real changes in the code.

I installed the Razor version and had MORE crashing than with Reloaded.  BUT - I finally lowered all my graphics settings, everything to medium or whatever is next to highest (there's one tht has a very high so that's on high), and I unchecked all the checkable options except reflections.  What I suspect might have been most important was turning of advanced rendering.  Anyway, I did that, shut down the game, loaded it up again and... played for HOURS without a crash.  Tonight was the first night since Sunday that I closed the game down voluntarily and not because it it crashed.

In fairness, I never tried turning of advanced rendering in Reloaded, but I did notice right off that the Razor version doesn't spike my temps like Reloaded did.  Plus at least one glitch I was experiencing was fixed, with Reloaded some Sims didn't have the "change appearances" option on mirrors, but that's working in Razor.  Oh I also installed the razor patch (but still crashed after that - it was ultimately the lowering of graphics settings that fixed that problem if indeed it is fixed.)  And I'm playing with my saves from Reloaded. 

And by the way, I LOVE THIS GAME!  I see a lot of complaints - am I the only who thinks, outside of the glitchiness, it's freakin' awesome?!

We had the RLd version and had the game crashing every couple of hours of play. But with the Razor crack running the RLD version, no crashing at all and most of the graphics settings are on high or medium. Anyone else who has crashing every couple of hours, you might want to try it. Get the Crackfix version of the crack by Razor  (it's about 11mb I think) and just replace the RLD crack (the 29 mb one) if you installed the RLD version of the game already. As I said, worked a treat for us.

The crashing. Is that directly correlated to graphics card?

I'm playing on a "granny computer" laptop; I don't even have a graphics card ( well, it's integrated and such) and I haven't had a single crash. I CAN say that when I first started the game, all settings were lowest. I've put them all at about middle ground and everything is running smoothly.

The only reason I'm posting this is because I was planning on getting a new laptop in about a month, was curious about the best graphic card selection. But if I can run TS2 with all EP's and TS3, AND people who have way more superior setups than i do are experiencing crashes, should I even bother?

I haven't had ANY crashes with the RLD and the RZR release, but after reading all these, i suspected it was just luck. Installed the game for my neice and she has a POOR internal graphics card, still no crashing from her side and she can run the settings, some on medium, some on low.

I'd love to know why some people are crashing and some arent.

I've also never experienced any of these bugs everyone posts pictures of... I was quite looking forward to stretchy toddlers :(

I'm still running the RLD version (because unlike you lucky bastards overseas, I have to deal with bandwidth capping).  The only graphical glitch I've experienced is someone having a newspaper stuck in his crotch for a few seconds.  I've had Sims go through the entire aging process, and no stretchy necks or gaping mouths or any of the amusingly horrifying things I've seen. 

I also haven't had any problems with performance or crashing, on my AMD 3800, Nvidia 7600, 3Gig system.  I was worried I'd have to settle for low end graphics, but I've got everything maxed except for the building detail. I can even run in windowed mode without issue.

I uninstalled the RLD version, installed the Razor one, put in the crackfix and when I double click on it, a black cmd box flashes for a split second and the disappears. What gives? Putting the reloaded cracked exe in works. I haven't got the patch yet.

Nevermind, I got a fake one, it seems. I downloaded from another site and it works like a charm. (The bad one was from pirate bay, fyi. And it didn't come in .001 extension :P)

Crashing: on the system specs below, which has a pretty fresh OS install with very damn little else installed on it and excellent cooling, I would get 'system freezes' requiring a hard reboot about every 1-3 hours of gameplay. These were usually when I was doing something in the game (rather than just watching), such as panning across the neighborhood at close zoom, grabbing an object in buy mode, or attempting to load Create a Style. The game would suddenly grind to a halt. If I left it alone, it would start to flash, and eventually I'd lose the video signal input. No combo of drivers, in-game settings, or NVIDIA control panel settings would forestall these. Since uninstalling Reloaded and installing Razor1911 (rather than patching one to the other), and applying 2 of the patches that were found, I have not experienced these system freezes.

Also, I've noticed that the game seems to run best if you actually let it use the settings it picks for you when it auto-detects your card.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/28/2009, 07:34:31
       Machine name: INANNA
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
       System Model: System Product Name
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+,  MMX,  3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
             Memory: 3582MB RAM
          Page File: 466MB used, 4992MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
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     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_040F19F1&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 320.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.8585 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 4/30/2009 22:02:00, 5896320 bytes

I made a comment on another thread I'm not regretting leaving TS2 behind at all. I'm totally digging this game. Now if they can just give me some weather and pets I'll be set

I'm almost sure most peoples' crashing problem is due to overheating.  The game itself seems quite stable, but it'll find ANY weakness in your PC's cooling system.
I had 2 different PC's that would overheat and cause a BSOD with 0x00000124 as the error code, one running AMD processor w/Vista x64, the other running Intel w/x86.  I replaced the CPU heatsink/fan on the AMD X2 PC and now it never crashes.  I don't have a better CPU heatsink/fan for my Intel C2D PC, so I just ran a health monitor program and set an alarm at the CPU's maximum allowable temperature of 61C (Google says it's 61.4C for my C2D).  The alarm goes off about 5-minutes into the game!  It doesn't BSOD immediately at critical temp, so I just shut off the alarm and save often. :)  It managed to go 4+ hours last night without crashing, though I don't even want to know what the CPU temps were like.

Overheating is probably going to be more likely in home-built PCs because I think OEMs are more likely to put their machines through vigorous testing.  Not to mention home PC builders tend to do fun stuff like overclocking.  My Intel box is overclocked to 3.0GHz from 1.8GHz, that's probably the reason mine overheats so easily under load. :)

The game has yet to crash on me. (knock on wood)

The issues you have said are the exact same as mine, I know there are patches somewhere in this thread but I cannot for the life of me find them again, would you happen to have a link to the ones you used please?

...and if so, could we perhaps keep updated links in the first post? Rather than trawling these 8+ pages? :)
As an example I couldn't find the pulled patch high or low.

Nah it's not an overheating problem. We're running it on a new, fast puter. Anyway, haven't had any weird stretchy toddlers either. Apart from the crashing with the other crack no other bugs or problems. Whole game feels like playing TS2 all over again before the exp packs, though.
Loving the global aging (or ageing, for us Brits and the Grammar Police) :) 



I bet you're on VirginMedia. The tight bastards. ;)

I've solved my crashing problems by disabling smooth edges. My crashes were of the sort that after about 15 minutes of play, the system would freeze and my monitor would stop getting a signal, remedied only by a hard reset. Of course it's very weird, since I run more graphically intensive games with antialiasing without any problems.

Tried to patch the 'Reloaded to Razor' thing I have in my game through the patch someone left on rapidfire, but it told me I had the wrong region. How else can I patch it? Can I change the region? Or should I just shrug and be on my way? Can't say Sims 3 is a priority for me.

I actually tried that *upgrade* as an experiment to see if it made any difference and couldn't get it to patch either. So I changed a registry value and got it to patch. I had the .00002 patch so I did HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Sims/The Sims 3/SKU/*change value to 2*, then I patched it and it took. I had to reapply the crack.exe afterwards but the game fired up fine afterwards. No crashes, nada. I only have minor graphic glitches but I think that's my more machine.

I haven't investigated much yet to see if any of that made a major difference from the original Reloaded version I installed, but my skuversion is now 1.0.632.00002. For what that's worth at this point.

Sometimes in my house total shutdowns are caused by a hungry cat running over the powersupply button.

My husband just HAD to buy the enormous black guild-navigator-tank-from-Lynch's-Dune tower case with power and reset buttons on the top. The cat quickly demonstrated to him that they would need to be disconnected, stat.

Angelo, you make me realize that I'm not sure I ever turned edge smoothing back on post-RZR. I definitely had it on at various settings during my RLD crashes. Sigh. Back to the drawing board. RZR vs RLD will be academic soon, but still curious to see if edge smoothing = reproducible system freezes.

If someone wants to provide clearly-denoted links I'd be happy to update the top post.

Updated to Razor with the overwrite patch, so far it works smoothly. Also razor version fixed the bug with dissapearing items from sim inventory after switching the active family (most annoying bug I had in reloaded), so far I didn't notice any other improvements.

That is not a feature changed by the Razor version. The inventory will self-destruct at the next available opportunity, after you have stopped looking. There were basically no code changes between versions.

Was bored, so decided to try an experiment FOR SCIENCE.

Laptop stress test running RELOADED version results: 72+ hours and still going, albeit with some graphical flickers when I have Firefox running at the same time. Have swooshed all over the 'hood and gardened, skilled, etc. Graphics on high.

YMMV.

My conclusion is that any flickering / freezing I've dealt with = memory leaks due to other memory-hogging applications  (TS3 gobbles up a G+ if you let it) or too much heat.

Lorelai, would you mind mentioning whether you had any Edge Smoothing enabled?  I'm not sure if 'graphics on high' definitely implies that.

I haven't had any problems running the Reloaded version although some bugs, and now I have the Razor one installed its running better, little or no bugs at all.  Game is faster in a way and loads quicker.

If anyone has the Razor, 1.0.631, or 1.0.632 version of the game, can they please confirm if they see this message while connected to the internet that their game is "non-final, unauthorized."

I basically proved that my crashing was caused by advanced rendering being on.  I turned it on yesterday as a test - my ponds and fountains look really stupid without it - and then after I shut down the game and started it up it crashed immediately when I tried to start it.  I turned adv rend off via the options.txt file, and was able to start it up.  Then I reset all my settings to default, which includes rendering on, turned that off, left everything else (a mix of high and medium), restarted, and played for a couple of hours and no crashing.  So, for me at least, it's the advanced rendering that causes the BSOD.

Heat problem was pretty well solved by the Razor version.  My CPU temp can hit 80+ after a long time of playing, my computer will shut down at 90.  I make myself minimize frequently which will instantly drop it a few degrees.  GPU and system temp are staying out of the danger zone altogether, whereas with Reloaded they were in it.

The general rule with pirated games is to block them from your firewall. Never let them connect. With Sims games since BV, never run from the launcher. I suspect that is why issues are being had...running from the launcher and letting your game connect is the only way it would know of the outside world, and that it may or may not be a registered version.

Some people have reported (and photographed) finding the boxed copies put out too early in a few dept. stores--typical Walmart release date pooch-screw. So I'm guessing by the end of the weekend we will begin seeing new 'releases' that have been ripped from the physical retail box. I don't expect there to be a lot of real difference other than some more inscrutable version numbers, but I will likely still grab what I expect to be the final arr'd version for curiosity's sake. I've wavered on whether I'm going to hand EA my money on this (and EA has gotten plenty of money from me over the years), no final verdict.

I understand. I really want to compare those who bought the game early if EA shows the "non-final, unauthorized" message because they installed the game before the release date. I also want to see if someone with pirated 1.0.631 has that same message if anyone wants to take the risk.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/5b69g4.jpg) (http://i42.tinypic.com/14wuds8.jpg)

Clickity le image.(for better view.)  :D

As erry, The launcher works for me. I even signed up. However it's totally useless because you can't download anything, even free exchange items or the free neighbourhood if you didn't enter a valid serial. Haven't tried a keygen serial as it'll surely not work. Wait for the items to be corrected and shared here, that's the only way.

People who actually purchased the game and received it early have already signed up on TS3 and can post in the forums without any issues.  You simply have to have a valid serial.  Apparently, you cannot download from the exchange including Riverview until Tuesday.  So, there is no "unauthorized" message from a purchased game.

But according to that screenshot there is no "unauthorized" message for people who pirate the razor release, any thoughts?
Of course the ones who pirate can not register on the forums and get riverview but that's besides the point.
Notice how EA's launcher can not tell the difference between retail 1.0.631 and pirate 1.0.631. I find this funny.

I downloaded the Razor version, replaced the files, didn't work (I got a 'Please insert disc' message) and returned the originals and now my game won't load. I rechecked one of the folders I replaced - transgaming>c_drive>Program Files>Electronic Arts>The Sims 3>GameData>Shared>Packages - and it doesn't look quite right:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/dpdbps.jpg)

I don't know how this translates into Windows, but if anyone could look at this folder and let me know if that's how it's supposed to look, because I don't recall the first file being named that. The dock icon launches but then crashes before the game even gets a breath of life.

My version of the folder looks pretty similar. I got the rld version and haven't updated since. Here's a pic for you if it helps:

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/whiteobsidian/sims.gif)

i installed the RLD version and patched with the 711mb to upgrade rld to razor's release.working fine so far..can patch it..
seems it replaces game and gamedata folders

I have a few questions I just downloaded the The_Sims_3-Razor1911.torrent and it all went well and I just unzipped it. Now it's an ISO so what do I need the crack for if I'm mounting it with Daemon Tools and installing it? The game is always going to think there's a CD in the drive anyway. What is the purpose of this The Sims 3 Crackfix?

Even though it's mounted, without the crack the game will ask for the cd. The crack bypasses the cd check

Interesting, I've never had that issue before with any mounted or ISO files so now where can I  get the most recent crack? I tried downloading it from http://torrentseed.org/details.php?id=6820 but it won't work, keeps saying it can't find what it needs. Can someone direct me to the proper place where I can quickly get the Crack? I don't imagine it's a very, big file.

Never mind I got it I think I'm good now can't wait to try it been trying to get it now for a few days, thanks so much for your help. :-)

Serrah, allow me to show you this: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15068.0.html (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15068.0.html). Have a read, it will help you with your double posting problem!!

You have been dealing with different piracy protection. Securom(at least the latest version) has always been anal about the actual cd being in the drive without a crack. Safedisc and various others didn't need all of this.

Now that the real thing's out, are we sure RZR is the final version?

I don't quite trust the RLD-RZR patch... like an earlier poster said, at that filesize there should be more of a change. Can't say I fancy sitting through another 6 GB download though.

I have been wondering that myself, Insanity Prelude. Also, now that the game has been officialy released, why hasn't there been any torrents of the retail version? I remember that whenever a TS2 EP or SP was released, then a torrent was up that same day. Today, there is nothing, only TS3 for the iPhone.

EDIT: I posted stuff in the wrong thread.

I've been watching for a 'retail' rip ever since people starting reporting receiving early copies. Since there hasn't been any other release (well, looks like some kid ripped his copy and put it on demonoid?) I'm assuming that the warez scene at least considers the razor release close enough to be final not to bother putting out more.

I believe I did, but you wouldn't know it from the screenshots, alas. Seems liek I put it on to try to get, you know, smoother edges. They are still jaggedy.

Point is kind of moot at this juncture, though, given that I understand I'll have to get the RLD --> RZR+patch file to use any of the CC or EA content made. Alas, only link I've found is on Demonoid, and I have lost my password, and it claims it has sent it to me but hasn't, 24 hours later. *shrug*

Time to poke through my email archives and see if I still have the original email, or find another link.

I'm downloading the patch from demonoid as I type. I can send it when it finishes if you can't get your password worked out; it's only 711mb.

ETA: Forgot to mention that I installed everything from the store thread, with the exceptions of Riverview and the tiki set, and it installed just fine pre-patch. I'm just downloading the patch to be on the same page as everyone else to make future endeavors easier.

Heh.  Codec.exe NAILED ME, even after I read everything previously warning about it.  I am so dumb.  I scanned it with AVAST (best anti-virus program there is, seriously) and couldn't see it.  Sure enough, after I tried to install it and it failed, I got virus warnings, and WINRAR revealed that, yes, Sims3Installer.exe was really a Rar executable with codec.exe inside.

So I'm done messing with the razor1911 release.   KCrissey's release on Demonoid, I might try, after I finish scanning my system to death.

From where did code.exe come from anyway? If both Reloaded and Razor versions have it, it's strange, unless the official game has it too.

It's probably a virus someone put in there. Possibly even someone working for EAxis, it's hard to say. These things are just all part of life on the high seas. We pillage, pillage, we plunder, we rifle and loot, drink up me hearties, yo ho!

oh, PULEEEEZe tell me EA put the virus in the torrent!  That would be so hilarious!  Somebody should call EA's attorneys and tell them why that would be so funny.

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Oh no, I just spent one week downloading the game, version 1.0.615.00107

Did I  just waste one week?  Or can I just upgrade this version?  ???

Are you on dialup or something?

No, very very slow DSL.

Methinks it's time to switch ISPs.

(5.6 gigabytes) / (7 days) = 77.6722963 kilobits per second

nearly 40% faster than 56k dialup! I hope you aren't paying much for that.

Wow, I'm using intermittently available unencrypted wireless internet that's actually owned by my neighbors, and even I got the game in only two and half days.

Shit man, now you just need to be using a stolen laptop in a squat house and you're sweet.

Pirate cat doesn't pay for bandwidth, right?

Actually, I was going to actually shell it out for an internet connection, but then discovered that it was actually not that hard to find free wireless in coffee shops and at the University and so forth.  The fact that my neighbors had unencrypted wireless at the time I was downloaded TS3 was something of an accident (my neighbors actually change every few months or so - some of them are more tech-savvy than others).

I wanted to get a copy with one of the trojans inside to see if malwarebytes would pick it up. Avast tends to only report things when they try to run, or you try to access an infected file. I torrented both versions and neither had an issue. I guess I'm lucky, or not in this case. I only wanted to satisfy my curiosity at anyrate.

I've read there's a 700MBsomething patch that allows you to upgrade from the Reloaded version to the Razor version.

Also, you may consider doing other things (multitasking) while the game is downloading, so the time isn't wasted.

The one I downloaded was the Razor1911 version of Sims 3 that had the most seeds and leech activity at Isohunt.  (Torrent name: "The Sims 3 - Razor1911.torrent")

Avast has earned my undying respect.  I had a rootkit one time (Alureon) that was borking my two DVD burners and making them give me the very strange Windows error "Maximum Secrets exceeded."  It turns out that that is a hard-to-explain reference to a State Department regulation (I kid you not) that prohibits disks with too many "secret" areas.  The word was not "hidden" or "encrypted."  "Secret."  Google "Maximum Secrets exceeded."  People on the virus forums thought it was bullshit.

I ran about seven anti-virus and malware programs, and the only one that found the problem and fixed it was the last one, Avast.

Ones that didn't find it included:

AVG free
AVG premium
PC Tools Anti-virus
Malware MBAM (if found NOTHING)
Avira
RootRepeal
SanityClear (?)
Something else.

I was also extra-pissed-off that AVG premium didn't find it, because it specifically advertises its rootkit features in the advertising for the premium version.  Bullshit.  I have absolutely no respect for AVG or anything GRISOFT produces anymore.  .

I downloaded the Reloaded version when it first came out and wasn't impressed enough to keep playing, but now that all this content from the store is coming out and I'm seeing everyone's pretty legacies and stuff, I want to try again. Can I just stick with the Reloaded version, or should I upgrade to the Razor1911 version for the sake of installing the store stuff, etc?

So in Rufio-world, there is no ethical problem with stealing bandwidth from your neighbours, but there is with scanning a book?

That seems like a backwards, non-standard view of the issue.  I'd have less problems with scanning a book (i.e. stealing profits from a faceless publishing house) than I would with stealing from the people who are my neighbours (even though I can't stand most of them).

Re: bandwidth stealing.

I see a practical issue more important than the moral one. Unless in USistan things are going totally different than here, whatever is done from a certain IP/connection/LAN legally refers to the registered owner of that IP (according to the ISP registry).
If I do something illegal using someone else's IP, they will not incriminate me, but them. I know the laws pertaining this issue are being discussed right now, but still it doesn't seem to me a good thing to do.

Actually, I am not ethically opposed to either - if someone is going to leave their wireless unencrypted, they have to know that people are going to use it.  Also, I don't normally do things that use up much bandwidth.

The issue with scanning the book was that I was respecting rules my father had made about the use of his equipment, out of politeness for him.  I realize this is a foreign concept to most of you.

Well, logically, if the store stuff got you interested again (among other things), you'd want the version that can use the store stuff, yes?

Ah, sorry, I didn't know - I thought I read most of the 11 pages and just saw that the patching didn't work, but I guess I must have skipped over that part. I started dl'ing the Razor version, anyway - should be done in just under 2 hours. Gotta love those private trackers. Thanks for the reply!

Oh, I love Avast too, I recommend it for everyone. It is my virus scan of choice. It has just already been reported that Avast hasn't picked up the trojans on a scan of the ISO or the individual EXEs. I was curious whether Malwarebytes would. I use a combo of Malwarebytes and Avast to rid of any ills that I might encounter. What Avast can't get rid of, Malwarebytes has. I've use both to rid several friends of Vundo of varying severity, each one on their own did not get all of the files.

Due to download limits (I live on the edge of the 3rd world), and because it was working perfectly well, I never changed from my original Reloaded install, and all the store stuff has worked fine for me (with the aid of Pes' tool, etc.).

Hmm, that is good to know.

Regardless, I still recommend upgrading to Razor1911 for use of Awesomemod when it goes public, as I do believe that requires the full, final version.

All right. RLD-RZR patch is go- where's the .632 patch, since if I recall correctly earlier in the thread you guys were saying EA took it down? (PB search came up with nothing. or rather, nothing that I was actually intending to search for.)

Witch posted links to them in this thread. There are two patches. I'm unsure what the difference is between them, other the region that is. If you are determined to install both of them then you have to change the regional setting of the game in your registry.
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,15009.msg433197.html#msg433197

You wanted the infected version, so here ya go. I got it but Avast warned me. http://www.torrentreactor.net/torrents/3120778/The-Sims-3-FULL-EN-PC (http://www.torrentreactor.net/torrents/3120778/The-Sims-3-FULL-EN-PC)

Reasonably certain, yes.  I got my hands on a retail copy in a "cheap as free" manner and installed.  The Razor crackfix TS3.exe file is the exact same version as the .exe that comes on the disk.  The RZR crack in the crackfix works as a no-DVD for the released retail version.  I would conclude that the retail and RZR versions are the same.

Thank you very much! Avast was reported to have not given warning on the other two trojans that are out though.

I have a stupid question. Does my region depend on what I chose at installation or does it verify somehow differently?
Just curious which region I actually have and how heavily further downloads will depend on it:S

It doesn't change, it's included in the executables that are in your DVD, and it depends on where it is meant to be sold. I think there possibily is a difference for "region" 107, which is for digital download. Either way, it's only a speculative hypotesis.
As for your region, if your DVD comes from US, you have region 1, if it's from Europe (+ or -) it's 2, from East Asia or such, it should be 3.

Hi reading all posts decided to ask... have anyone found a safe link with full latest download & updates patch?  :-\ Someone could point me what to do, i know this game been released long time ago, but just now i got a decent pc to play it trying to get the game now  ::)

I haven't been following the Sims community that much lately, so I have no idea what's been going on. I know there's a new EP due out soon (Supernatural) but I don't know when. I also just heard about Seasons coming out nearer Christmas. So imagine my surprise when I see the abbreviated thread title of "Razor1911 release..." on the front page next to the forum name. I thought "WHAT? They released the new EP already? Wow! That was so much faster than I thought!" I click through, excited to see the details and see what people are saying about it, only to find out that it wasn't what I thought at all.

Instead, SOME NOOB bumped a thread from 2009. About the initial pirated release of the game. SERIOUSLY NOOB? Are you TOO GOOD for GOOGLE? You ignored the necromancer? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?