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Stops sim who have grilled hot-dogs/hamburgers on community lots from wandering from table to table serving.  The food will just be placed on the most convenient surface and sims can help themselves.

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There is a partial conflict with dizzy's smart-serve. To combat this, this hack must be in the same directory as smart-serve and re-named zzzCBOY_NoCommLotFoodServe.package.

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Do the patches get loaded in alphabetical order?

Yes, within a directory.  I also think the directories get loaded in alpabetical order too.

Ah, great. I was wondering if something like this would ever come into existence and behold, here it is.
It certainly is silly for them to go place a plate at the bar when they grill some dogs - that made me nuts.

Once again saved from EA's insanity.

Oh, this is great!  ;D Thanks.

Thank You.

VERY welcome.  Drives me crazy when they grill something and totally ignore the 3 or 4 tables set-out to the left of the grill, instead choosing to walk all the way across the lot to place them on the bar.  And how come I go to Asda leaving my teenager daughter on the pc talking to her friends on Messenger and come back to find my keyboard squeaking?  How much talking did she DO?

Excellent! Another annoyance blasted for when I play Uni again :D.

I think I love you.

No, seriously, I was about to strangle several of my favorite Sims after I sent them to go use the grill because they were starving and I didn't want them to go home yet, and instead of, you know, ACTUALLY EATING, they ran around all over the goddamn lot looking for places to put plates. Upstairs, downstairs, in circles around the fence!

thanks for this one, I am so happy.  I also was annoy by all this.

I personally place a counter next to each of my grills so the sim can have access to place the food plate as soon as it is done with the cooking. For some reason it prefers counters than empty table (I guess it feels more like home  :P).

I notice on some downtown lots where there are small lights on the table that dishes do not fit on it, this is the main reason why Sims will hunt for the bar to place those plates or if there are not 6 chairs in total near the grill.  I updated all the University lots since none of them had 6 chairs or a fiew did.  Now I won't need to do that anymore, great!

Yay! Yay! Yay!

This has been driving me nuts. I will not put up with that running around so  I have to cancel out the serve action and then there's a big pile of hot dogs and hamburgers on the floor that all the Sims help themselves to.  Especially disgusting when the pile turns green and steamy.

Yay! Yay! Yay!

Oh goodie! Now I can put those grills back on my Community lots. Picnics are just no fun without grills.  ;D

Thank god for that.

Way to go CrammyBoy

Thank you! I've been desperate for something like this! No more sims peeing/ starving themselves because they spend 3 hours putting plates at all corners of the lot!

Thank you very much, this was a pet peeve of mine whenever I had a sim on a community lot.

This is a request that is sort of connected with this, it's something that's been driving me mad since I installed NL.

When a Sim is on an outing, in my game there are usually 7 people altogether (including my Sim).  Tonight, for instance, this was the case.  The party was at the bowling alley, which has two tables with 3 chairs each and 7 seats at the bar.  Two of the bar seats were taken, leaving 5 spare, plus 6 at the tables.  In other words, there were 11 seats available for the party of 7.  Nevertheless, the stupid woman who greeted my Sim said there wasn't any room, all because the game doesn't allow parties to be split between tables and counters.  How stupid is this???  Even worse is the fact that when a visiting Sim is shown to a table, they are nearly always given the largest.  I had one occasion where my Sim was told there were no places because the only table big enough (seating 8) was occupied by a single townie (stupid Goopy, as I recall) and the other seats were 3 tables seating 2 apiece and 6 seats at the bar (in other words, there were 19 seats available, but this wasn't enough to cater for 7 Sims!).

It would make all the difference in the world if (a) they seated single townies at the bar whenever possible, or at least used the tables for 2, and (b) if they seated people together instead of putting single people all on separate tables.  I've had occasions when two Sims in the household have gone in a party and I've had to end the outing so they could eat (as I had to do tonight), yet they've still put my two Sims on separate tables, even though they arrived together and live together.  Same thing happens when married couples are on the lots as visitors, they get put on separate tables too, whereas it would look far more realistic if they ate together.  Things like that really bug me!

I'd really love to see something done about this if it's at all possible.

I second Ancient Sim's request above!

I third it! I never understood the choice of seating arrangements too, bloody annoying. :P

Not a particularly simple request, but I'll look into it.

This is great! Highly annoying when sims go up and down 1-2 flight of stairs carrying plates to serve :/

Ty Ty!

This seems to be so.
I have most of my hacks divided into subfolders by creator and have simply named your folder ZzCrammyboy.
I haven't noticed any problems with any of the other hacks that mention potential conflicts (in folders such as twoJeffs, dizzy and not even with the 'kitten-killing' Inteeminator in the main Download folder)

Are there specific conflicts I should be looking for before deeming it a safe method?

The seating arrangements are such that, by default, any sim visiting a community lot will automatically be seated with and only with some damned townie, regardless of relationship level with anyone else.

There's a hack in the Director's Cut, "nodiningwithscum", that suppresses the eat-with-a-townie behavior in favor of selecting a friend visiting the lot who is hungry when autodining.

An interesting side effect observed is that sims thus tend to eat alone more often than not with is in place, since it is a rare occurrence that one of their friends is A: Present, and B: Hungry (the alternative being to forcefeed them until they blow up like balloons, which is equally unappealling!).

So this works for autodining, but what about when sims arrive in a group, such as the situation described by Ancient Sim. Will the nodiningwithscum help keep them together? I guess large groups will just be screwed unless people redesign the comm lots?

Is there anyway to optimize the seating? So single sims/townies get placed at objects where there is only one or valid slots/seats?

Ste

Splitting up large groups to seat seperately is infeasible, but it may be possible to improve the seating algorithm to choose the smallest possible table capable of seating any diner. Accomodating GINORMOUS groups, however, remains fundamentally infeasible.

What is the maximum sized party that can be feasibly seated? If you actually build your own comm lot or redecorate/remake/remodel the existing ones, and you place the realy large/long tables, can a party of say 8 be all seated at the same table?

And I would definately be down for an improvement to the seating algorithm. Choosing the smallest possible table would be best, and directing all single sims to a counter seat, if a available, should probably come first, before choosing tables.

Besides, what constitutes a GINORMOUS group anyways, and how would you even have a GINORMOUS group? I thought those weren't possible really without creating one in a very cumbersome manner. Group Outings by phone seem limited to a max of 4 people? Or so I had read. Random Group Outings via incoming call seems to go up to as large as 6-8 sims. I guess you could ask more to join your group while you are on a comm lot, but GINORMOUS groups would seem unwieldly anyways, so why would you want to do that?

Ste

Group outings like any outing (or family) is limited to 8 characters.

If you use the modular booths and a double table you can seat a maximum of 7 Sims at one table (one space has to be left free to get on the table). There is no limit to seating at counters from what I can tell (my personal maximum is 14).

I like seeing sims jump over the table or other sims to get out from the back of the booth.  Saves the trouble of asking everyone to move or trying to crawl under the table.  ;D

You can seat sims on the corners of a booth?

You can seat up to 8 sims at the triple table using the Uni cafeteria-table which has 3 spaces on it.

With the 2x2 table: two on top, two left, two right, one bottom, one space open on the bottom. Sims will happily share corners of tables. Come to think of it if you use /chairs/ you probably /could/ seat 8... but I like the 'dining love talk' etc. interactions the booths give.

I always get problems with the 3x1 uni tables for some inane reason.

Ah, there are 2x2 tables, that makes sense, then.

Can't wait to have an OFB version of this one, or is it already safe to use it in OFB?

Would be nice when you have the time to do a post with what works as it is and what don't and need updates for OFB.

YES, me too please  ;D

This is OK for OFB.

Could you make a hack like this so that sims will just put the plate down on the counter instead of serving it?

If you put a counter next to the BBQ, the Sim who did the cooking will place it on the counter, take a plate and sit down and eat.  It won't serve the plates all over the lot.  This hack is affecting only community lots, Sims at home will still serve the food like usual unless you stop them.

Were you asking for one that do that but in household?  That would be a good idea but maybe it already exist somewhere.

If you want to do that at "home", it's easy -- just put something on the table, like the little votive lights or romatic candles, or the napkin holder in decorative objects. As long as something is on the table (you'll need 2 for the long tables), the cook will put the food on the counter and just take a plate.  Then the rest of the household can just grab a plate and go sit at the table to eat. The object on the table doesn't prevent it from being used -- it only stops the sims from serving food.

I guess any object small enough to sit in the middle of the table would work, too, like the small flower vases.

Thanks for the tip jsalemi, it will be really useful in some of my families.   :)

This will be a great help.
Thank you for sharing. :)

For those wondering.

I have this one in with the pet ep and I have not seen any weirdness, it is working perfectly fine for me.