More Awesome Than You!

The hydropnics garden (slacker career reward) has always annoyed me because it builds "Creativity" skill; and what the heck creatvity has to do with gardening, or hydroponics?

I modified its behaviour to build "Gardening Badge" instead of "Creativity". This mod also modifies all shrubs, weeds and flowers to build "Gardening Badge" when trimmed, watered or pulled. As M&G added new interactions to flowers I'm not sure if this is compatible with it, as soon as I get it I'll update. M&G compatible.

Description:
Slacker career reward (hydroponics garden), shrubs, flowers and weeds earn "Gardening Badge" when trimmed, tended, planted, harvested, watered or pulled.

Installation:
Unzip, move to:
"Documents > EA Games > The Sims 2 > Downloads".

Required EPs:
- The Sims 2 Seasons
- The Sims 2 Free Time or later

Changelog:
v1.0: Initial release. (2008/11/24)

Known bugs/issues:
When Sims earn a badge (Gold, Bronze or Silver) dialog message won't display as it should. I don't know if I will ever find a solution, but who reads these messages?

This is makes a lot of sense, and I had been thinking about it. Will let you know (by editing this post) how it works with MGS.


Working great for me. More logic FTW. Will be interested in your version, Pescado. Listen to the Gwill. ;)

You can't expect things to make sense. I mean, the connection between hydroponic gardening and the slacker career, or slacking in general, isn't exactly rock solid to begin with.

Actually, it did make sort of sense, when you consider the history behind it: The Hydroponic Garden predates Seasons: Therefore, at the time it was made, there WERE no badges. It is not hard to improve it further by making it build both creativity *AND* gardening at the same time, though. And I can probably fix your weak, insuperior bugs. F'naa!

As for the link to the slacker career, you DO realize what it's REALLY growing, right?

are the plants that are created from the hydroponic station able to be hacked for selling via ofb?

now if you could only put the harvested hydroponic plants into the juicer. it won't be brownies but once you took a drink you wouldn't care. come on, who gets high on boot juice anyway. ::)

Ugly shrubs.

You made me depressed all over again over the fact that no one ever made a decent mod.

Are you just bragging, or should I put on my tutu?

That depends. Up to you.

Shake those maracas, Gwill!

/me puts on tutu and jumps up and down
We want shiny!

in other places I would just say "+1", but here I use the more formal "I agree with you here, this is a great idea".

Great idea could be made greater, if it also built nature enthusiasm... just sayin'.  :P

 ::) I know it made sense in pre-Seasons era, and I had no complains about it. However a couple of months ago I realized, that since why have a "Gardening Badge", the hydroponic garden needed a change. Also "Gardening Badge" builds faster if your Sim has a higher Charisma skill but not Creativity.


I'd love that!


That's why you need FT or later...

You do know about the mod located at pandorasims right?

I'd feel better knowing whom they stole it from.

Ah, I had no idea.  It is stolen, what a coincidence... arrr.
Too bad some one won't give it a better go.

Back on topic I think I'm going to try this thread's hack. 

Well, actually I don't know that the item in particular is stolen. Pandora is just known for stealing shamelessly. You never know what's safe and what is hellknowswherefrom.

I remember that hydroponics garden gives a Cleaning skill not the Creativity you mentioned...does not it?

No, it does build Creativity.

It has always been Creativity.


Charisma helps build gardening?  I haven't yet found a list of which skills help which of the fishing/gardening and later badges so this is good to know.

ETA:

Did some better searches and finally found the list I've been missing, on the bbs.  I've always known about some of them such as charisma for sales but didn't know about the rest.

Worth putting that data in the War Room?

I don't have permission, I could put it in Peasantry though.

Thanks for the post :)

Pes needs to move all the posts there, so give him a poke.
Or ask the nominated Pes poker to poke him.
Or sacrifice a goat.
Or ask rohina, she'll know.
 

I don't think it's war room material since we're not even 100% sure it's all correct.  If someone were to actually find evidence in the code that would be a different matter.  I could swear there was a post somewhere that listed mechanical for the sewing badge instead of the creativity I found the other day, so it is more of a guideline than to be taken as fact.  Perhaps as people find out the truth behind it they will share.

For some reason, I could have sworn that tending shrubs/flowers already built Gardening badge. Could be wrong though.

I just got around to put this in. But it is also in conflict with Pes's hedgetrimfix in the al-test (in addition to hydrogardenbadge). I like yours since it covers all the other areas.  I just want to know for sure that yours includes all of what hedgetrimfix does?

rohina is the Information Desk?  I shall watch your future career at MATY with some interest.


Quite so.  Nevertheless, the current debate is whether having certain skills provides a boost of speed in achieving the badge, once the tending flowers/shrubs/trees/plants has commenced.  The hypthesis seems to be that charisma may help.  This may not be completely farfetched, since the best way I have found to make fruit trees nonsickly is to talk to them.  Since her husband died, my one elder sim has discussed all manner of subjects with her lemon trees, and they are clearly appreciative of this effort.  Lemonade abounds.  Mind you, you need to already HAVE the gold badge to do that, IIRC.

Hydrogardenbadge is basically an improved version of this that builds both creativity and gardening, instead of just gardening. There really is no point of using this one if you have the other.

Indeed.  I was totally serious about that too.  Which is why the suggestion came after sacrificing a goat  ;)

The "she'll know" part is probably correct though.  The topic was MATY procedures, and the comment came at the time she was re-writing the Senate game rules (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,13724.0.html).
Since then she's done heaps on the wikka (http://wikka.moreawesomethanyou.com/Main_Page), so you cannot really argue that she is not a good source of info.
I would advise anyone to exaust all other avenues in a search of information before asking rohina though - including goats.


Yes, the harvestables do give the badge points, and they do take charisma into account.
They don't get the badge gain for flowers/shrubs in an unmodded game.  This mod addresses those.  They do get nature enthusiasm though.

I'll post my info's in this thread (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,13785.0.html) shortly on the badge rates.
Thanks for reminding me about this topic :)

Speaking of hedgetrimfix, when will it be moved to the hack directories?

Not to rush the testing process, just want an estimate.

Isn't it in the DC? I have it in my game.

Last I checked (this morning) it was in testing.

Emma! Those are for Fat Gwilly People only!

I have a forbidden hack! Naughty me.

I've just discovered that this hack is blocking Cyjon's inaccessible hedgetrimming mod. Now I have to choose. :(

And since I've necromanced anyway, what happened to Pes's hedgetrimfix? I can't find it anywhere, was it ever released?