More Awesome Than You!

You know those hairs that look AWESOME on the models, and then sit seven feet too high on your sim's head and clip violently through the torso?

Or the furniture that looks brilliant on such-and-so's website but somehow gets lumpy and badly-textured and crashes and pokes through walls when it's in your game?

Find them!  Post them!  Ideally, post a contrast between how it looks in the advertising and how it REALLY looks.  Expose the filthy liars! 

I NOMinate MATY itself, which poses to the greater unwashed, uneducated masses as a paysite, but is actually the forum in which I am posting right now.

A while ago, after a night of manic hair-downloading, I noticed a completely FUBARed hair in the custom hair section in CAS.  Since most of my hair is binned and I normally never go into the custom hair section, I decided I didn't particularly want to do a binary search of the hair folder to figure out which one it was and left it there.  Recently, cleaning out my downloads folder in anticipation of installing AL, I decided to hunt it down... and discovered that it is not one, but the mating of two craptastic (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=235359) hairs (http://sumomo.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=224430) from the same creator on MTS2.  Now, looking at them again, the pictures don't look that bad, but in-game they look like strips of petrified blanket with pictures of hair on them.  But that's not why I'm entering them.  If I put the two hairs in separate subfolders, they show up fine, or at any rate as "fine" as hairs like this can be.  If I put them together in the same folder (as I did) hair #2 attempts to use hair #1's mesh, resulting in a completely borked texture that doesn't even look like hair anymore.  I suspect the problem stems from the fact that both hairs are billed as "hairmesh 1" and that the creator simply forgot that s/he had already made a hairmesh 1 and accidentally used the same code for indicating the mesh.  Or something.  I don't know anything about making hair.

Front (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mutanthairfrontfr9.jpg)
Back (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mutanthairbackfl2.jpg)
Close up (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mutanthairclosenn7.jpg)

ETA: Rehosted images, but imageshack seems to phail at hotlinking.

Here's one of my main inspirations for starting this thread: a pay hair from The Sims Connection called "Time After Time." 
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4896/timeaftertimesmalled8.jpg)

Upon putting it in the game one of the first noticable things is that the ponytail has something weird going on at the end.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1115/timeaftertime1my2.jpg)
It's skintone/pink and sort of weird.  I call it 'the Butt.'  Look for it in the following pictures.

Besides the Butt, the real problems with the hair begin when the Sim starts to move, because aside from sticking out at odd angles as seen above, the luxurious ponytail tends to...
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7872/timeaftertime2ua3.jpg)
or
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5066/timeaftertime3yv3.jpg)

I still remember the face I made first time I witnessed this years ago, when the hair was advertised enthusiastically on TSC as being by Fionn and having amazing animations. 
(edited to try and get one of the pics to show)

but those ARE amazing animations. :D

"My hair cut off my head and all I got was this lousy t-shirt!"

The "butt" on the end is extra special.

Wow. If "Time After Time" didn't cut off the Sim's head, it would look close to my real hair.

Well, if it didn't cut off the Sim's head, or have a pink buttock on the end, it would look sort of like my hair.

Hmm, okay. If it didn't cut off the Sim's head, have a pink buttock on the end, stab her torso, come in a shade of blonde never actually seen in real life (except on trailer trash who have abused $5 hair bleach kits from the drugstore), and had a bit more of a fringe, it would bear a passing resemblance to my actual real life hair.

Okay, if it... GAH. Never mind.

Now, was it VitaSims, WallSims or both who stole extremely high poly furniture meshes that cut through walls, devour Sims and are the incorrect scale for Sims games? The sad thing is that I like the style of furniture made with those extremely high-poly meshes, and still occasionally used some of it that wasn't too badly borked in my game.

Pic PLZ?  ;)

I nominate everything from Peggy.


I win.

Ho ho, you. This makes me think a "Worst of Peggy" contest would be pretty challenging.

LMFAO!!! peggy stuff isnt that bad
i chose Fresh princes home decor objects over at mts2. there all bad
i remember that old above ground pool he psots at SS2 forever ago...omg it made my sims get stuck and couldnt move >_<
http://hideki.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=289166
that is bad not only becuse it is horridly pixel-ey... it is also photo realistic...which mates NOTHING  in the sim world...i dont even think CC will work with it

Gaping hair, anyone? Borked mesh for your pleasure! Mismatched animations, sure to dazzle you! Firetruck reds, piss (off) yellows, blacks which aren't black at all - who could possibly wish for more? And it's hair only - don't let me start on other stuff!
And yes, the fact that it's, so good as it is, pay?!
I mean, all hail Peggy. Such skills are hard to achieve. [/sarcasm]

I actually have yet to download any hairs by peggy with the reputed huge gaping holes in them.  Anyone got pictures?

Here's some pics of this fridge in my game for comparison.  Honestly I don't think it looks that bad, or at least not that different from the advertising.  The water dispenser on the front isn't painted on, it's meshed more or less properly, and the animations work.
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6905/mtsfridge1iv0.jpg)

There is an issue, however, with the Sims hands not matching up with the fridge doors.
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2258/mstfridge2dq7.jpg)

Now somebody get moving and post Peggy hair gaps please!  ;D

 Gladly.
 There is this peggy hair, that has braids and a side pony. I love this hair style. But there is a VERY *cough*scrumptious*cough* detail in the back...
  (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/snapshot_75cc8259_75cc836a.jpg) 
  Look up in the sky, it's a bird, it's a plane..., oh, wait, no, it's just her teeth...
  (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee308/SlickC33/snapshot_75cc8259_35cc8373.jpg)
  Multiple times happened where I'm filming and I get the perfect angle, only to realize I can't do it anymore because there's a big ole gap in the chick's head >:(.

 Edit: Screwed up quote.

Paysite gaps, let me show you them.
Rose's not as infamous for her gaps as Peggy is. I found out about her gaps on Renegade Sims (http://www.renegadesims.com/hair.php).
For just $2.50, you can get this lovely hair (http://www.rosesims2.net/contribute/rosedonation_7.htm), complete with gap! Of course, if you're a weird nutjob who doesn't like gaps, you can download a gap-less version from Renegade for free, but where's the fun in that?
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s18/liveangel93/More%20Awful%20Than%20You/rosedonate_0040.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s18/liveangel93/More%20Awful%20Than%20You/rose40meshflaw_teeth.jpg)
Does Rose playtest her stuff (http://www.rosesims2.net/contribute/rosedonation_9.htm)? By the looks of things, the answer is no. Neither does the EAxis team, and look at them!
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s18/liveangel93/More%20Awful%20Than%20You/rosedonate_0051.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s18/liveangel93/More%20Awful%20Than%20You/rose51_original_mesh_gaps.jpg)

I remember one hair of Peggy's which had a gap so huge that sim's head almost disappeared when you looked from backview. It was pay, of course. If I could only remember which hair it was...

EDIT: Here it is!

Original pic:
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/946/hairmesh0115af4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

The gap:
(http://i33.tinypic.com/ojngg7.jpg)

that one literaly made me go  :o
wtf...is that person stupid and blind?

Ugh, I remember seeing that in-game. That's what happens when Peggy decides to do a female-to-male conversion of her own hair.

Aw man. That Peggy hair makes mine look tame, but at I didn't even set out LOOKING for it; I found this while making some CAS sims. Pay Rose two-fifeh for:
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll123/mount_tazneen/ew/Untitled-1copy.jpg)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll123/mount_tazneen/ew/snapshot_75ced853_15ceeea5.jpg)
Two main problems: This hair is binned in brown and uh-- yeah, those bangs.
Here's an 'as advertised' shot:
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll123/mount_tazneen/ew/rosedonate_0034.jpg)

Why are there THREE blonds and one 'brown' (that's really purple?)

Edited to bring you a horrendous profile shot!

Excuse me for being off-topic, but I've had enough!
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s18/liveangel93/Lolmacros/English_Motherfucker_Do_You_Speak_I.jpg)
Capital letters! Full stops! Apostrophe, apostrophe, apostrophe, apostrophe! Use spellcheck!
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT?
[/derail by grammar flame]

*golf claps*

Wow, that Peggy hair is something else.  How do you miss stuff like that?  Does she actually look at her stuff before she demands money for it?

I actually have that Rose hair, Kazzandra, but I never wound up using it so I never noticed that.  I went into CAS just now to see it for myself, and noticed something else about it when the teenage sim did the slouchy head-lolling posture:
Clicky (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=borkedrosehairdp6.jpg)

Now, granted, I've seen other hairs do this, but never to that degree.

What the hell.  Back-of-neck gaps are sometimes kind of irritating (especially if you want that picture and your sim's teeth are showing from behind..) .... but FRONT OF THE FREAKING FACE gaps?  Visible in CAS?  Did she look at this in-game at ALL?

Also the way it sticks out in the back is so not right.

Man, now I want to go into my collection of Peggy "THAT'S IN THE WRONG BIN" candidates.  WTF reds in the blonde bin, blondes in the brown bin, browns in the black bin.

ETA: Holy Jesus! It also does the bendy-pigtail dance!

It's really a shame, because it's one of, like, two pigtails that actually hang down the back and not over the shoulders that I've ever been able to find.

/me agrees.

Good catch.

The sad thing is that Liveangel's corrections of Cockroach's posts, while numerous, did not reflect all the corrections that could legitimately have been sporked; only the most glaring of the mistakes.

Corrections? I only highlighted stuff.
/me looks back at her post.
Yeah, I didn't highlight missing periods or spaces, because I didn't know what to highlight. Also, (insert lame excuse here) so I missed some. But if you want corrections, then good. I want something to do.

Better? Do they still have mistakes that I missed?

So, I decided to go check out Renegade Sims, because the link was listed here. I found more Peggy stuff that looks great when advertised... and sucks when in the game. Credits for the pics from Renegade Sims. XD

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/starrystarrynight03/RenegadeLolitaponytailfix.jpg) <---From the front
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/starrystarrynight03/zomgpeggy.jpg) <---- What Peggy seriously did not mention about this hair...

Me too! I think next month's contest should be: Now why didn't a talented creator think of that? We can drag our most shameful shit from our downloads folder and sigh at the poor meshing and horrible texturing of a good idea.

Tempting me to make a bendy-pigtail dance video, eh? Well, bring on your poorly-animated, your weakly-converted (from other games), and starvin' chilluns, and I just might do it.  :D

Edited because of grammerz nad spellinz

Looks like she's having her scalp surgically removed...

edited to fix stupidity (my own).  10 points to whoever finds it.

(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8787/funnypicturescrazyebayciq0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Your images don't work. Either you used the wrong link or you deleted them. Could you fix them please?

They were working beforehand. Now I wish I had saved them to my computer/botophucket. I don't know, I was busy putting watermelons on everyone's heads. :P

ETA: Nevermind. I'm an idiot who obviously can't read.

Snapdrive seems to be down. I'll see if I can find where I put them on my computer and rehost them with imageshack.

I realize hair colors (and when brown becomes blond or red) are, to some extent, a matter of opinion.  THAT BEING SAID, I am sick and tired of hairs in the wrong bin.  Especially reds.  Peggy really does have some nice, fairly natural looking red hairs...

.... and when I download them, they show up in the blond or brown bin.  :(

A lot of these are Peggy but not all.  I'm redoing my download folder and came across these while weeding out recolors. 

NOT BLACK:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2994/notblack1be1.jpg)
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/121/notblack2at4.jpg)

NOT BLOND(E):
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4363/notblond1ds0.jpg)
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5210/notblond2ld5.jpg)

NOT BROWN:
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4528/notbrown1av6.jpg)
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/266/notbrown2po5.jpg)
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/1791/notbrown3ls6.jpg)
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8639/notbrown4wu2.jpg)

Wow, sudaki, I don't envy your rebinning task. :o I died a little inside last time I rebinned my hair folder. And, uh, because of the packages that had black .bmps inside, I now have a few blonds in the black bin.  :-[

I'm on a Mac so I can't actually rebin anything.  I just junk 'em. (and post on MATY  :P)

You can use Wardrobe Wrangler. I think it works on Mac.

I'm too lazy to rebin all the miscategorised Peggy hair, so I just pretend my sims have chosen to dye theirs but forgot the eyebrows.

Or that your sims dyed their eyebrows.

Look! A pretty new top for my teenage sims.
(http://i38.tinypic.com/34ec03a.jpg)
But...
(http://i33.tinypic.com/jubj7s.jpg)
Being fat is a Very Bad Thing.

This top is a default replacement. HystericalParoxysm's replacement mesh: not as advertised.

This is the promoshot on TSR:

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s28/Chandra9901/Other/promoshot.jpg)

This is what the oufit looks like in CAS:

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s28/Chandra9901/Other/snapshot_55dd7a0b_95dd7a4d.jpg)

Looks like Siluetta missed a spot. A big, black spot. And it's pay (I, however, got it from the booty).

I actually had to come out of lurking and register to share this beautiful meshing gem.

The original, and yes, it is pay.
(http://isc.thesimsresource.com/images/tmp/390/390081.jpg)
Found  http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/Neptunesuzy/downloads/sims2/SetID_390079/ (http://www.thesimsresource.com/artists/Neptunesuzy/downloads/sims2/SetID_390079/)

In game:
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x68/Genlisae/snapshot_75e68a5c_b5e68d2f.jpg)
umm ...

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x68/Genlisae/snapshot_75e68a5c_35e68d55.jpg)
Okay ...

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x68/Genlisae/snapshot_75e68a5c_15e68eff.jpg)
WTF?!

edit: To fix link I borked

:'( that is just frightening.

And this is going to pale in comparison, but I just found this in my downloads.  The advertising:
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9706/stupidtub1ig8.jpg)
A nice "donation" bathroom from SimCredible.
But for some reason when I place the rectangular tub....
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9149/stupidtub2rt8.jpg)
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6231/stupidtub3tl5.jpg)
It's the disappearing towel rack!  You put it in your bathroom, it appears in your living room!

I haven't got pictures, (boo, hiss), but I recently downloaded some Helga stuff (ok, a lot) after all the fangirling and squeeing over her I saw at PMBD.

I set up a bedroom with her stuff (didn't really go, given it was the Hick house, but it was the first house I played after installing and I wanted to see what it looked like), and well.  Quilts don't move, the bedframe sticks out through the other side of the wall (you can even see it when looking from another lot - there's a bedframe shaped shadow on one of the walls.  Clicking on the bed gave the option to "00a e pc", whatever that was - I'm guessing Relax, because the sims weren't really tired yet.  As soon as I got out of the game I deleted all of Helga's stuff.

Pity.

I think they only fangirl about Helga's hair over there, not her objects. Personally I wouldn't touch a Helga hair unless it has been recoloured :D

I'd agree with that.  I downloaded a bunch of her hair and was sorely disappointed - that got promptly deleted, too.  If I had any skill/inclination/time I'd do it myself (using someone else's *cough*Nouk*cough* textures).

I'd love to Noukify all the Maxis hair :D Hair files scare me, maybe I'll tackle them one day. When I am feeling reckless 8)

That reminds me strongly of the Vitasims stuff. It looks gorgeous as long as you don't place it against a wall.

oh! I might have to try those. I loath Maxis blonde and red and ... Okay I just generally don't like Maxis hair. Of course I don't really like most of the "realistic" hair textures either. TOO shiney.

I bring you a Liella dress.
I love the texture on Liella clothes, they bring some chic in my often rural neighbourhoods. However, even when wearing formal dresses, my Sims like to do active stuff like, you know, seating.
http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/jeu-video/snapshot-52c00ea9-d590d62c,478a8ea9590f16fafeda74d46424e83d.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/jeu-video/snapshot-52c00ea9-d590d62c,478a8ea9590f16fafeda74d46424e83d.jpg)
I'll leave it to your imagination to picture what it looks like when she's crouching.
BTW this is how it was advertised: http://lliella.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=5&Itemid=39&limit=1&limitstart=8 (http://lliella.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=5&Itemid=39&limit=1&limitstart=8)
It's a donation item, on top of that (and I've deleted several different dresses from that creator for similar problems).

Edit: I've never had any problems with that Peggy male hair. Could it have been updated?

"Honey, I think you overdid it on the starch."

There's a fixed version on PMBD.  You might have that, unless you paid for it.  ;D  (Also IIRC the problem only occurs for certain ages?)

Okay, is my browser not showing me images again, or is this page just a wall o' links?

Please assume that some of us do not have logins to other ghey sim sites, as there is only one sim site, and also require instant lulz.

A. Emma, DO NOUKIFY. The blacks in the aforementioned hair replacement set are purple. I cannot stand the purple blacks.
B: I must bahh for all of you warning me how horrid some of these things are. I had arred that NeptuneSuzy dress and not put it in my game yet. Now I shall burn it with fire.

Now, a hairshit. I couldn't find a proper front-on shot for it, but... well, the hair looks like it's supposed to!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/lady_whatshername/TS2BodyShop2008-02-1316-34-41-90.jpg)

What a hair raising experience.  ;D

Know what you call people who make terrible puns? JUDGES.

The first block of links on this page have nothing to do with the contest. The links in Heodez's post don't need logons to view, but linking without embedding pics = fail.
Post links and pictures, kthxbai.

ETA:
(http://lliella.com/pics/silkyglam-set.jpg)
(http://images1.hiboox.com/images/3908/478a8ea9590f16fafeda74d46424e83d.jpg)

http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=300068
(http://pics.livejournal.com/gwillewyn/pic/0009hkxx)

As the creator puts it:
Uhm, you don't think that might be something you should have done something about when you converted it?

Here are some screenshots made by other people:
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p27/lilbabychicken/afewexamples.jpg)
(http://i38.tinypic.com/312juq1.jpg)

Oh, that's a bit poo, and a picked upload? *snorts* WTG, MTS2 mods! LOL!

I'm not sure if I have those in-game, I have most of the stuff by Migamoo and it always looks like quality stuff. Just goes to show you.

I love that hair! Gwill, where did you get that short black hair photo from?
Or does anyone know where the hair can be found?

*edit* found the photos, but no clue as to where the hair was from. :(

The styling looks like it might be Raon or Rose.

JM shares his more feminine side.

That's somewhat frightening, that thought is.

Salix, the mesh is from Rose (096) and I think it's a realpha/retexture by either Liegenschonheit (http://digitalperversion.net/) or Nth. (http://www.digitalperversion.net/gardenofshadows/index.php?topic=5206.0)

ooh la la, JM!
Yes, thanks! It's defo that Rose hair, looks different in Rose's photo, I didn't recognize it as the same mesh.

I am pretty sure pattern recognition is traditionally a male attribute.

I can't find a decent article on pattern recognition abilities, based on gender, that is accessible to me without logins for various pages. I've only spent about 15 minutes looking and don't have time today unfortunately.

I did find a Swedish study (http://www.springerlink.com/content/k613ycyemcygxtxg/) which reckons females are better at recognising faces.


Although it goes on to say that hairstyles degrade pattern recognition performance in all. So you were performing especially well for a male, JM.  :P

"Men are better at throwing darts (this was shown in an experiment that controlled for sports practice, but, sadly not for pub attendance), mentally rotating objects, and some other tasks related to spatial cognition."

http://129.199.80.1/~alphapsy/blog/?2006/10/30/96-sex-differences

"Some psychological tests also show the male advantage in systemising. For example, in the mental rotation test, you're shown two shapes, and asked if one is a rotation or a mirror image of the other. Males are quicker and more accurate on this test. Reading maps has been used as another test of systemising. Men can learn a route in fewer trials, just from looking at a map, correctly recalling more details about direction and distance. If you ask boys to make a map of an area that they have only visited once, their maps have a more accurate layout of the features in the environment, eg, showing which landmark is south-east of another.

If you ask people to put together a 3D mechanical apparatus in an assembly task, on average, men score higher. Boys are also better at constructing block buildings from 2D blueprints. These are constructional systems."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4649492-111414,00.html

Of course, one of the leading hypotheses is that autism is an extreme form of the male brain.

http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20040107-000005.html

The extreme-male-brain theory of autism (http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:fYsLMu3Hc4UJ:www.autismresearchcentre.com/docs/papers/1999_BC_extrememalebrain.pdfl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us&client=firefox-a)

Ah, but my facial recognition is terrible and probably severely atrophied because I simply don't recognize people by their faces as a primary mode of identification. I use my shark sense for identification, which are much more reliable. Plus, I'm not identifying the sim. I'm identifying the constructional style of the mesh.

Who's judging?

You are.

Can you judge if you're a participant? I submited Peggy's gappy male hair.

I vote on this one.

That's not how these contests work. Of course, a volunteer is you, SJActress. 1st place, 2nd place, 3rd place and Hourable mention. Think you can do it? BTW, you shouldn't quote the pictures unless you are performing duties nvm.

At least HP is likely to actually do something about it if it's pointed out to her politely where she can see it -- unlike, say, Peggy.

That's true. I left her a message about it.

Speaking of Peggy, I downloaded a bed she made. Very pretty, but with no animations at all. I'll post some pics tomorrow.

Well, shit.  It's halfway through October, and I just now saw your reply.

Here goes, FWIW:

1st Place (because fat Sims look better than skinny ones anyway):


2nd Place (truly the worst, but it's Peggy and I believe she's retired from the placement):


3rd Place (because Sims shouldn't be able to jut around like snakes):


And Honorable Mention (because it's just weird):


There.  Onto October!

I just looked in the thread with the asploding fat morph. HystericalParoxysm fixed the problem three days after I posted the message.
Yay, fat teens with pretty clothing :D

I'm glad HP fixed the oops.  Good for her.  But there are still hundreds of fat morphs out there whose creators don't care to fix them.  WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE GRILLED CHEESE SIMS?