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Title: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 August 16, 10:11:48
Joe Carr, married into the family, now an elder, has max enthusiasm in Arts & Crafts, all creativity points, and has made 16 straight evil jack-in-the-boxes in a row, followed by 7 straight evil kites in a row.

Actually, prior to this, I didn't even know an evil kite existed. I've never, ever seen it before, and OFB's been around quite some time now.

This has to be a glitch, correct? I do realize the man has only 3 nice points, but I know I've had other grouchy sims at the toy bench before, and I've never seen this happen.

He is also perma-plat about 40 times over, so being in a bad mood is not an issue either.

What gives?

I don't mind the evil JITB, but I'd like some normal kites for him to gift to the grandkids.

ETA: I think he did make one or two regular jack-in-the-boxes at first before this streak started, so I'm not sure what went wrong.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 August 16, 10:33:54
Seems like you have DC, which contains evilsimseviltoys.package. It makes evil toys to be default for grouchy Sims.
The hack was made because evil toys are very rare to begin with (that's why you've never seen them before), even before hitting PermaPlat or gaining Gold badge, and virtually impossible to produce after hitting PermaPlat.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Annan on 2008 August 16, 10:41:42
Evil kite? What does the evil kite do?


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 August 16, 10:42:46
For kids? Nothing. Kids are immune to the effect. For non-kids? Why exactly are you still doing that?


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 August 16, 10:58:38
Seems like you have DC, which contains evilsimseviltoys.package. It makes evil toys to be default for grouchy Sims.
The hack was made because evil toys are very rare to begin with (that's why you've never seen them before), even before hitting PermaPlat or gaining Gold badge, and virtually impossible to produce after hitting PermaPlat.
Aha!

See, I weed throught the DC every time to nix the DO NOT WANTS, but I've never even heard of this one.

Okay, thanks.

Apparently, evil kite just gets you electrocuted faster, Annan.

For kids? Nothing. Kids are immune to the effect. For non-kids? Why exactly are you still doing that?
Oh, well if kids are immune, then I guess I shouldn't fret, but that evil kite is creepy looking.

And FYI, my grown sims do fly kites as well because they are so foot loose and fancy free. So there.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 August 16, 11:00:20
Evil kite? What does the evil kite do?
There was a thread about evil toys here (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,10231.msg281244.html#msg281244).

More info about evil toys: http://www.snootysims.com/infoindex.php?id=badges


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 August 16, 11:19:31
More info about evil toys: http://www.snootysims.com/infoindex.php?id=badges
Ergh, so does this mean he's going to make some kind of craptacular Water Wigglers that make a big mess? Or does that only happen if they break?

I don't feel like exiting the game and firing up again before he gets his damn gold badge.

The whole purpose of this was so that the damn family wouldn't have to bathe their pigpen dogs every damn day of life. I need functional Water Wigglers damnit!

I can say "damn" 20 more times if you want me to too! Damn, damn, DAMN, James!


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Lord Darcy on 2008 August 16, 11:45:13
Ergh, so does this mean he's going to make some kind of craptacular Water Wigglers that make a big mess? Or does that only happen if they break?

If you take out evilsimseviltoys.package, PermaPlat Sims won't be able to produce evil toys ever again. Non-PermaPlat Sims will still produce evil toys once in a while, but only when their aspiration and/or motive are very low.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: rufio on 2008 August 16, 17:25:19
Does evilness make toys less attractive to customers in businesses?  Because if not, I might install that.  My neighborhood could use an evil toyshop.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 August 16, 20:57:18
Sims are just as likely to buy an evil toy as a non-evil one.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Grugly on 2008 August 17, 03:20:13
Wish my artsy sim made only evil kites. To give to his grandkids. So they would die. He refused to make a single one, out of sixty. You know how hard it is to get people electrocuted the normal way?

What? Stop looking at me like that.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 August 17, 03:39:17
Ergh, so does this mean he's going to make some kind of craptacular Water Wigglers that make a big mess? Or does that only happen if they break?

If you take out evilsimseviltoys.package, PermaPlat Sims won't be able to produce evil toys ever again. Non-PermaPlat Sims will still produce evil toys once in a while, but only when their aspiration and/or motive are very low.
Yeah, I know. I just don't want to exit and restart to get the hack out. I'm a lazy monkey. I leave the game running for days on end.

Wish my artsy sim made only evil kites. To give to his grandkids. So they would die. He refused to make a single one, out of sixty. You know how hard it is to get people electrocuted the normal way?

What? Stop looking at me like that.
So download the mod in question? Unless of course he's a nice guy....

It's not that hard to get electrocuted with the regular kite either though. Just wait for a thunderstorm, and go fly a kite.  ;)


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Grugly on 2008 August 17, 04:01:57
So download the mod in question? Unless of course he's a nice guy....

It's not that hard to get electrocuted with the regular kite either though. Just wait for a thunderstorm, and go fly a kite.  ;)

I think it turns into a sadistic game, where I decide the sim is spiting me by making only happy rainbow kites, and I think "Fine, screw you too, you can stand here and make kites forever you dirty rotten son of a bitch."
Being inanimate, he doesn't appear to mind. But he will. Oh, he will.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 August 17, 04:20:56
There is no real difference between the evil and non-evil kites, except that the EVIL ONES LOOK MORE AWESOME. But I probably just think so because I'm a mean sim.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Kazzandra on 2008 August 17, 04:22:43
The whole purpose of this was so that the damn family wouldn't have to bathe their pigpen dogs every damn day of life. I need functional Water Wigglers damnit!

Never wash your dog again. Only slightly cheaty. (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=221788)

There is no real difference between the evil and non-evil kites, except that the EVIL ONES LOOK MORE AWESOME. But I probably just think so because I'm a mean sim.

I prefer them as well. I have no idea what that means.  :D


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Grugly on 2008 August 17, 04:25:36
There is no real difference between the evil and non-evil kites, except that the EVIL ONES LOOK MORE AWESOME. But I probably just think so because I'm a mean sim.

There really isn't? The one time I did get one, the sim using it ALWAYS got electrocuted. Every time.

...in Winter.

They really do look awesome though.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 August 17, 05:20:32
Never wash your dog again. Only slightly cheaty. (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=221788)
Hmm. I can't. I can't cheat in that way. Water Wigglers or bathtubs only.

As far as I can tell, stinky pet fur and stinky pet mouth are not one and the same, and I just couldn't go through with it.

What I may do, however, is cheatily give someone else in the family a gold toymaking badge. Because this is just not fair. I did not know I had this mod in game, or I'd have sent a nicer sim to toy-making-skilling.

There is no real difference between the evil and non-evil kites, except that the EVIL ONES LOOK MORE AWESOME. But I probably just think so because I'm a mean sim.
Apparently I'm a nice sim now because that evil one really gives me the heebs for some reason that I just can't explain. Freaky clown-in-a-box doesn't faze me, but that kite is...hairy or...something.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 August 17, 16:22:55
I just pull the hygiene bar up on dogs. Sometimes I forget, and if I do so to the point at which they actually get stinky, they get a bath.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: rufio on 2008 August 17, 17:05:59
Sims are just as likely to buy an evil toy as a non-evil one.

Awesome.  I have to install this when I get back to my computer.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: TimeStop on 2008 August 17, 21:11:07
There really isn't? The one time I did get one, the sim using it ALWAYS got electrocuted. Every time.

...in Winter.

I'd have to say your sim just fails at life. Unless it wasn't a kid, I'm not sure how kites work with adults. But it's annoyingly difficult to kill off sim children. Or even just electrocute them.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 August 18, 05:01:43
I am pretty sure I didn't apply the effects to water wigglers because there's actually a meaningful difference. Whereas the other toys have no functional purpose and frankly, the evil versions are funnier!


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 August 18, 05:04:25
Yes, Joe got his gold badge today and is churning out quality Wigglers.

The day is saved.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Grugly on 2008 August 18, 16:13:32
There really isn't? The one time I did get one, the sim using it ALWAYS got electrocuted. Every time.

...in Winter.
I'd have to say your sim just fails at life.

He does. He's a Mr. Big. So many skills and so much money that they're instaboring, and with a big nose to boot.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Process Denied on 2008 August 19, 02:02:32
Never wash your dog again. Only slightly cheaty. (http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=221788)
Hmm. I can't. I can't cheat in that way. Water Wigglers or bathtubs only.

As far as I can tell, stinky pet fur and stinky pet mouth are not one and the same, and I just couldn't go through with it.

I have a great dog washing cheat( of sorts) but it was from a site that no longer exists- it is a fire hydrant that the dog can activate automously.  I love it and it looks cute too.  I wish that site didn't go under it had some cool things. :'(


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: virgali on 2008 August 25, 16:27:24
I'm gonan risk my neck here and ask where I could get this evilsimseviltoys.package? I did a goggle search and nothing useful came up :-[


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: sloppyhousewife on 2008 August 25, 17:42:38
I'm gonan risk my neck here and ask where I could get this evilsimseviltoys.package? I did a goggle search and nothing useful came up :-[

There's no seperate download, but it's part of the Director's Cut.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Liveangel on 2008 August 26, 07:04:37
Evil kite? What does the evil kite do?
Electrocutes sims.
Quote from: http://www.snootysims.com/infoindex.php?id=deaths
Electrocution. Can occor when a sim repairs an electrical object/plays with evil kite. Yellow.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: virgali on 2008 August 31, 10:58:53
I'm gonan risk my neck here and ask where I could get this evilsimseviltoys.package? I did a goggle search and nothing useful came up :-[

There's no seperate download, but it's part of the Director's Cut.
That's too bad. I think I'll wait untill the AL DC is ready then. Or maybe I could download the DC and find the file and put it seperately. Either way thank you for the help. :)


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: Kyna on 2008 August 31, 13:25:19
I'm gonan risk my neck here and ask where I could get this evilsimseviltoys.package? I did a goggle search and nothing useful came up :-[

There's no seperate download, but it's part of the Director's Cut.
That's too bad. I think I'll wait untill the AL DC is ready then. Or maybe I could download the DC and find the file and put it seperately. Either way thank you for the help. :)

There has been a DC for AL for a few days now.  Of course, it's not in it's final state yet, as I'm sure Pescado will be adding more AL-specific fixes to it when he gets a break from urgent bug fixes and finds time to play the game.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: virgali on 2008 September 03, 07:26:01
Does the eviltoy work only for the toybench, btw? I would love a hack that would allow my sims to fail at all the stations.


Title: Re: So, why do you suppose my sim can ONLY make evil toys?
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 September 05, 05:48:52
You know, I've never seen the snapdragons that emit the green fumes?

One of those in every room could make the game much more...I don't know. I just want to see one.