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I've just been playing SimState yet again, and I've replayed the Brights yet again, and I still come up with the same problem, poor Jane Stacks, no matter how many skill points she gets, can't fill the meter as it seems permanently stuck at the bottom until I send her to take her exam, at which point of course, she gets put on Academic Probation which is totally undeserved!  I've tried messing around in SimPE, but haven't come up with anything that works!

Really pisses me off - I've bone idle sims who don't want to do anything but sit in a hot-tub all day, and they graduate Summa Cum Laude, but Jane tries so hard!  And even though Allegra and Martin work hard too, they never seem to get full marks.

So I wondered, has anyone found a foolproof way to get them all the Graduated with Honors memory?  (I don't mind cheating to beat Maxis cheating, but I'd like them to actually get the final exam grade themselves!)

Sim PE neighbohood memory it allows you to edit your sims memories permanently. but be sure to also go to the sim browser and get the stats changed on the Uni Tab of the sim you want to change roll the gradepoint average to 4.0 and  type  # 8 in the semester box to take final exam roll the time left in semester to 1 hour and commit changes  reenter uni and send sim to final exam if you do it this way  ie have sim take the final exam you wont need to edit the meory if they have already graduated the full steps are necessary

Thanks, that's basically what I tried to do, but at the earlier stage, when they've just moved in.  I can't see why, when I've had sims whose grade has fallen to 3.5 do well in the next exam and go back up to 4.0, these three seem fated to only gain between 0.1 and0.3 per semester!  It's definitely been fiddled, and I wish they wouldn't do that kind of thing!  I wouldn't mind if they did it to really horrible, nasty sims, but these three just don't deserve it!

Have you tried TwoJeff's college adjuster? It allows you to set semester, semester grade, and GPA from within the game.

I also remember one of my sims once having the problem where her bar just wouldn't increase... this was a random townie I had sent to college. I don't think I bothered trying to get her to work as I stopped playing that neighborhood soon after, but I have to wonder if it's something wrong with the sim, or with the lot or something.

Thanks Renatus, I'll try that.  I think it's the sim herself who's got something wrong, as I tried putting them all into a new house and nothing changed!  When I tried to change everything in SimPE, it actually made it worse!  In the case of the Brights, I do think they were deliberately made so that this would happen, but in some cases I think it's maybe just a sporadic fault. 

I just did a fresh install recently and did not play with them yet, I will check to see if they are stuck in my game too and let you know.  I did play her in the past but never really notice anything wrong with her.

They are fine in my game, apart from the fact they don't have a 4.0 GPA when you start playing them. Jane graduated and now has a job as a Technical Sales Rep. in a custom career (sharing an apartment with Dr. Ivy Copur). Just got to fnd her a decent mate for her LTW.

Oh, I always manage to graduate them all, just not with honours, which seems a bit unfair since they have all the necessary skills and everything!

Renatus, your advice worked, the college Adjuster sorted them all out!

A further update, which I tried to post earlier, then lost my post as the server was overloaded or something.  After I upgraded the Brights I decided to refurbish their old house (20 Peanut Street) and when I went to click on the front door, the whole thing just crashed.   Reloaded the game, and the front door crashed the game again!  (Basic Maxis white stained glass front door that was the original for the house, not a download - in fact, there were very few downloads in the house.)  I've bulldozed the lot now so I don't forget and try moving more sims in!  Perhaps if someone else is playing that lot and tries to delete the front door and has the same problem, they could let me know, as I don't know whether it's some kind of problem with my game, or if it's general.  (I suspect it's not my game, as I've had the problem with the Brights in previous installations, including vanilla ones.)

Oh, and Baddmark - she and Martin Ruben have three lightning bolts for each other, as do Allegra and Casto Nova.  Just thought it might help!

Ah, you see, I didn't get academic probation, the meter was full. Just no chance of getting top GPA.

I've pretty much decided to get those two together when he graduates, but she's chatting to any single guys that she meets "just in case".  ;)

The two Greek houses I've not bothered with much. The constant wandering off to get yet another pizza when I want them to skill up or do something else wound me up!  ;D

Greek houses are a pain!  They don't seem to want to do anything but eat pizza!

The problem I had with Jane was that when I first play the house, I can't get any of Jane's skill points to actually move the meter up to the top, and if she does an assignemnt or writes her term paper, I keep getting the stupid message about she needs to get more skill points.  I reached the point where jane has about level five in every skill, wwhich is far more than necessary at that level, but the meter was just corrupted and wouldn't fill up!  Thanks to Renatus, I've been able to push her grade up, and thanks to SimPE she no longer has the bad memories, but I know if I play the house again, the same thing will happen.  Maybe there's a fault on my CD!

I just played with Jane and I must say it is something in your game since I bought a chess table for the needed logic point she needs and right after she gain that skill the meter went up to full length.  I made her do 2 assignment and the meter was almost full after she done the second one.

The other 2 residents had the same result, so all 3 have a full meter lenght that can be fill normally. 

Also, I deleted the front door of that house and replace it with no problem at all.  I don't know if it is related to your problems or not since I did not experience that problem in my game so I could not reproduce it.  Maybe a custom recolor of that door as corrupted the lot ? :-\

Sorry to say, it seems like something is wrong in your game, I would suggest right from the start you load the lot and play 2 sec (we don't have a choice if we want to move them) and then move them into another house to see if this will happen again.

Zephyr, I'm betting you have the new set from 4ESF in your game. It causes a crashing problem with the Chiclettina door.  I had found this out a few days ago, and was informed today that the door has now been updated.  Haven't tried replacing it in my game yet though.

Mokey, thanks, I do have the set in my game although I haven't used it yet - but I may have had the doors menu open at the time I tried to click on the door!  However, I've had the problem with Jane and her meter for a long time, so that's being caused by something else!  (And it's happened when there haven't been any downloads in my game at all, so I think it is definitely the CD that isn't installing that family correctly!  Can't think what else can have caused it!)

Thanks, Missdoh, for taking the trouble to check them for me!  I think I'll have to try a new install if the problem persists, but if it's the CD itself, I suppose I just have to live with the problem or buy another CD!

It was no problem at all, before you do reinstall, it is worth a shot to move them in a new house right from the start.

Well, when I move neighbourhoods and put in a new university campus, I'll try it - just move them straight out and into another house before I even play them!

I had no problem graduating any of these Sims, so I don't think they're set-up.  Jane & Martin have 3 bolts for each other in my game too - just as well as they've been together since Uni and even had their twins while they were still there.  One of these days I'll remember to get them married. Allegra & Castor also have 3 bolts for each other - they're together in my game as well.  Just as well their son resurrected his poor mother after she dropped dead giving birth to him, or they'd never have experienced 3-bolt true love.

I've also got Kevin Beare & Tiffany Sampson together with 3 bolts, althouth I'm not at all pleased with Tiffany.  While I was playing another Sim on a downtown lot, she and Jackson Ruben got it together and ended-up falling in love in front of everybody.  They were making-out and all sorts.  Wouldn't mind, but she only has one bolt for him.  Both of them have only been married a short while and have new babies and Tiffany is Family into the bargain.  Jackson is married to the former townie Andrea Hogan and if she find out about this she'll rip Tiffany's eyes out.  She dioesn't take kindly to being thwarted in love.

Strange how sims do the unexpected huh? I have a pop sim who thinks married sims  are *hot* I let her think whatever she wanted  until she decided to try and be friendly  with a Grand Vampire  down town.  for whatever reason  he seemed to be following my sim as I would teleport her to her car and have her go to another lot downtown he would be there withn a minute of her arrival so I gave up and sent her home and called the gypsy for a blind date which was a nother disaster  and I had her purchase Vampricillin and put it in her inventory.. so I summoned a sim I thought would be perfect for her and wah lah he was they had a dream date and a proposal followed from her dream date

If you have the visitor zapper you can just ban the vampire from the lot, also you can ban HER from a lot if she is doing what you don't want while uncontrollable!  Works on downtown lots until you close your game and reload - you don't keep having to do it on a particular lot.

ok where do I get ths visitor zapper ? as this same sim got married to the sim Imentioned and who should try to crash the receptin that night but the grand vampire. the reception lasted until midnight sim time and the Grand vampire appeared on my sims lot at 730p.m. I used the DMA box to remove him but I want to make sure he doesnt return to my sims lot unexpectedly. I was under the impression that Grand Vampire had o remain  on Downtown lots. my sim doesnt live downtown she and her new hubby live in the neighborhood

You can get the visitor zapper here ...

http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=1235.0 (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=1235.0)

thanks :)

Works great in Uni if you get sick of cow mascots wrecking the joint!

ZZ I just had the same thing happen tonight. New batch of sims in Uni - 6  of them. All on college rampage. I noticed when all the other sims were nearing the top of their bars, one female sim was only about 1.4 of the way up and still red. I've just reset her, if that doesn't work I'll try the college adjuster. I did notice something odd when I clicked on here - she still had 'do homework' as an option, I noticed since resetting she doesn't have that anymore - as if she didn't grow up properly at first even though she had a YA body.

Well, if she's one of your own sims, then I suppose it's possible she didn't make the move correctly, but in the case of Jane Stacks, who was created by Maxis and moved into the house by Maxis etc., the faults in the progress bar are wierd, especially as some people appear to get them while others don't!

If a college sim has an unfinished assignment on the lot and you have macrotastics, the 'do homework' option will come up.  It simply means the sim has an assignment somewhere.

What a coincidence!  I just had one of my sims in a dorm with 2 other playable sims (also rampaging) drop out of her college rampage.  I couldn't get her to go back into the rampage, it kept dropping out.  She had an assignment at 0% on a table.  When I checked the chairs at the table concerned by trying to move them, the chairs were both stuck.  I used debug mode to reset the chairs and she was able to rampage on after that.

You might like to check if your student has an assignment that is on a table with stuck chairs.

Well, Jane certainly didn't!  No chairs were sutck anywhere, and they'd only just been loaded but I couldn't get the progress bar to move.  It was definitely the bar that was faulty.

Ive had the stuck progress bar in Uni and the  only way I was able to resolve it was move my sim out and into a new lot.My Sim has since graduated Summa Cum Laude  but his progress bar was always in the red  and he did all assignments ,term papers and went to class  on time,at the end of each semester I would get congratulations "Bart Aming has finished the semester with an A+ and has made the deans list"yet his progress bar was always low red. this went on until his last semester Junior year when I got sick of having to guess where he was at with his studies.I moved him and his buddies and fiancee out. he was one of my Rare Family sims to Join a greek house and the secret society and make BSOC status  after the move they of course reapplied for the  greek charter. as soon as  He set foot on the new lot his progress bar shot to full. he is back in the neighborhood and married to his childhood sweetheart. whose ressurect  wants are driving me batty. her Mother,Father and Brothers met up with the insimenator while she was at Uni. so the only surviving family member she has is her sister who is a pleasure sim

bangelnuts - try the noresurrectwants hack - I've been using it in NL with no problems I can see.

does it work with Family Sims? I thought I read they would still get that want. the sim that rolled the wants to resurrect her family is a Family Sim

Dunno about family sims. I don't remember seeing the resurrect want at all since I installed the hack. Check the rtfm.

Popularity sims definitely spin the want!  When I resurrected Fricorith Tricou in simPE, I teleported him to a lot where one of his downtownie aunts (another teen) was living.  As soon as I clicked on him in the mirror, all he wanted was to resurrect members of his family and to beat the Grand Reaper!  Anyway, he resurrected most of his family, while his grandfather Jonathon finished the job, they now live in three different houses and I've left the House of Fallen Trees severely alone since all the reports of problems.  Surprisingly, although they live in three different homes, they are about the most united family group I've ever played, forever phoning each other, turning up at each others' houses etc.  I did have to use SimPE to inform them of some things they'd forgotten while six feet under,and check some family boxes that had lost their check, but I  was really pleased with how it all turned out - and since they'd all died without really having a life, it seemed only fair!

hmm........ I would love to know exactly how that whole family was wiped out in the first place. I might do that as it would be an inteeresting new blood line in my neighborhood as well as a storyline. I think Brynne's  Bayfield Family lives in the house of Fallen trees some 23 members if I recall right, she hasnt said anything about problems in that house. I heard the issue arose over a piece of furniture in the house.do they have any living relatives? the Tricou's I mean not the Brynne's Family. I have  9 members of the Bayfield family in my game  they have had thei last names changed but they are there and living in 4 seperate houses and  that  family has  grown considerably with born in game sims and all family members are extremely close to one another and I would love another Family like that in my game

6 of the dowtownie teens are Jonathon fricou's (presumable other side of the blanket!) kids.  They all know who their father is, but not their mother!  So, get anyone of them into your game and they can resurrect the whole family, but then they would get all the money.  This is what basically happened in mine, although I didn't get Katharine to do the resurrecting, I just resurrected Fricorith in SimPE (He looked such a cute teenager!) and teleported him to the lot.  Katharine asked her nephew to move in, and all the money came with him, and he then proceeded to resurrect his parents and grandfather.  His mother then moved out with him into the bin, and his father and grandfather moved out together.  Katharine sent them 500,000 each while they were in the bin, and they then moved into nice new houses specially built for them by me!  Then the rest of the family got resurrected, and each set of parents eventually got back together, although I did have to go into SimPE to get some memories for Nylissit and Kiernan to work, and I had to check some family boxes that were unchecked.  I couldn't get the parents to fancy each other again, so in the end I sent them to community lots and had them do public woohoos, after which they just got the hots for each other.

If you get Katharine into the game (I made Jason Macauley her uncle, got him in first, then moved her in with him) her family tree shows all the other townie brothers and sisters.  They're all at uni now, except for Katharine, who I kept behind so she could send them some cash!  I've no doubt she'll join them soon!

Oh, and Fricorith and Lilith have the hots for each other!

ok I I unchecked Ghost for fricorith . who is Katharine?

Katharine Macaulay is one of the Downtown teens who live in the Garth house.  If you have the new movinall, you can move her in with any family you like (there's a version where they don't ned to be friends) and then you can get her to move Fricorith in.   (Or you can move him into any other family, it just seemed good to me to move him in with a relative!  Oh, and I let them make friends first, so he didn't feel all alone in the world when he moved in!)

Thanks I have inge's teleporter shrub. and I have a single sim I can move him in with so he can resurrect his family

The Mind control Mirror is useful too. 

Funny, my "Katherine" is Katherine Langerak. She has dark hair in one of those new NL hairstyles (the strange twist with the braid and bow thing). I still have her as a townie, so far I've put just two of the "unknown Tricou" offspring into Sim State. One is called Christopher Langerak in my game, he was the teen townie in the black trenchcoat, blond hair and black eyeliner & lipstick. The other townie, named Stacy Cho, has short black hair, green eyes and was wearing that little hat with the black & white leopard trim. They're both Pleasure sims, which was interesting. I'm planning on resurrecting the whole Tricou family too, once the kids graduate from college. I'd like to see what sort of interest they bring to the neighborhood.

Was your game a complete reinstall of the neighbourhood, or did you use your exisiting one?  I took everything out and made a new installation, so maybe that's why we got different names?

All Jonathon's illicit kids have the pleasure aspiration, but I've changed all of them to something more suited to their characters.  They also all had the same LTW of becoming a celebrity chef, but of course, when I changed their aspiration that changed too.  They are all at uni except Katharine, and they have formed a group which includes all six of them and they are now getting to know each other.  (They each have their own house, since they got 25,000 simoleons each when they got to the uni bin.)

I think the downtownies generate wiith different names in everybody's game, and even in different neighbourhoods.

I'd played for about a week after I installed NL and then decided to reinstall (long story). Before the reinstall, I think they had other names but I'm not sure (I think Christopher Langerak was Christopher Leung then). I'm going to go play in a little while, I'll make note of all the names and then post them here later if you're curious. I'll check in the other neighborhoods too, which I haven't even played yet since the reinstall.

the Family is completly ressurected as far as I can tell .now I have to boot Fricorith to the fa,ily bin  with his parents  so I can move my poor sim  Brad Harper back into his house. he moved out temporarily to allow for the family to be resuurected. then I took a Jaunt to sim PE and edited relationships. as far as how they like one another they all instantly started gabbing and became instant best friends and they all cried when my poor hapless sim Brad Harper moved out they started making instant friends with him as well no cheats used for that part. when I left Jennail was having a pillow fight with her husband and Fricorith was platinum. the instant best friends between Gvaudin and Fricorith surprised me . she was the first of the group to be resurrected by Fricorith.  I am thinking I might rename her to something I can say LOL. I did not even use cheats to make any of them friends I didnt have ttime so they were doing it themsselves. I was to busy having old grimmy called. and motherloding the harper house to give grimmy 80,000 simoleons

I double checked and all of the illegitimate Tricou kids have different names in each of my neighborhoods. The one thing I hope when I've graduated them and start resurrecting their father & family members that the Tricous have full DNA. That was the biggest reason why I'd reinstalled after NL. I'd resurrected Ophelia Nigmos' parents and Lyla Grunt and seeing the glitchiness in their resurrections (adults in elder bodies, bald, distorted facial graphics) I was worried I'd messed up my game. I don't know how to use SimPE (and am paranoid that I'm not skilled enough to figure it out) or any other program to fix stuff like that. Do the resurrected Tricous seem completely normal and without any missing files or such?

I know somebody that ressurected all the Tricous(or most of them at least) and they seem fine.

YMMV however.

Thanks Andygal, that's good to know. I'm going to back up my neighborhoods before I try, just to be on the safe side.

(Belated) I'm glad I hit the mark with that one, ZZ, and your sims were able to get the grades they deserved! The adjuster is a very handy little tool.

Mine are fine too - but you have to make sure you fill the bar to 10,000 if you want a perfect resurrection!

Interestring thing just happened - I've often had one grandparent turn up to visit unnanounced, but both Jonathon and Jennicor turned up together to visit Jennail and co!  I've truly never seen this before !

my sim pe resurrection of Fricorith didnt hold I exited and saved the game whent back in he became a ghost playing punch you punch me with his Dad. and then I got the message he had died on another lot. so I sent  his mother to the phone and she resurrected him paying 10,000 simoleons. I then moved the family into their own place and put my sim Brad Harper Back in his house Just before I moved the Tricou family Fricorith's Parent's and Fricorith to a new house

Odd!  Mine worked fine with just unchecking the ghost tick in simPE.  I could have done the whole family that way, but the kid needed his platinum boost to keep him going until he got good grades (He was F grade!  His cousin was C+, so she wasn't a problem.)  Now Fricorith is all set for college, he's got his Creativity scholarship, and he won't really need the money anyway, as his parents can send him all he needs!  But I think I'll make him work for it, like Lilith is having to!  (But she did take her bed and computer with her!)  The only ones I've helped out were the Downtownie kids, and they'd had such a bad start in life I thought they deserved a break!  (And Lilith is so much better in this game - I restored some of her genetic personality points so she's a bit more outgoing and a bit nicer, so she gets on fine with everyone - useful for a popluarity aspiration!  She even cleans up now without a fuss and I didn't alter her neatness.)

Fricorith is alive and well now the resurrection his mother did  with old grimmy held and he came back platinum. so I think it was a glitch in my game. I am going to rename his cousin though . I cant even pronounce her name LOL when you  look at her  its surprising to me that Nylissit is her mother. she looks alot like Jennail. Nylissit and Kiernan were having  a bowl of chili at a neighbors house when I left

G-voor-dwan  (with the French nasal n.)  Once you get used to it, it's not so bad, though where Maxis dredged up the names I can't imagine!

My Fricorith has just gone off to college, and Jennail is at last expecting a baby (she resurrected with this want, so I kept it in, and Kvornan will be able to stay home from work (but he'll no doubt wish he hadn't!)  I shall have to move them to a bigger lot soon, though, if Jennail keeps wanting more stuff (and babies into the bargain!)  It's quite a large house they have now, but it's only a 4x4 lot, so no room to expand.  I think a move to Pleasantview is called for!  Nice green views from the front door instead of all that concrete!

The tricous all live in Lover's Lane in my Game none of them live downtown I still have to start sticking furniture in their houses so they can move in. so they have green views as the live in the neighborhood. at last check they were   were all  various neighbors houses eating and visiting LOL

I resurrected the Tricou family--all except for the elders, and I did it from SimPE.  All went well except for the f in the kids grades and in work.  Easily fixed with the InSIMenator but the big prob was with the parents.  They can have romantic relations with each other and probably can get married but they can't fall in love and their bolts don't show.  I think that I might have to switch parents??? I checked with SimPE and they are not listed in the family tree and I unclicked the family in relations, I even went so far as to erase the memory that they were ever married in the first place from everyone's memories.  Didn't help.

hmmm thats odd  I resurrected the entire family using  the grim phone  after getting Fricorith done in SimPe  even though it didnt stick with him after saving and exiting his mother was able to use the grim phone and resurrect Fricorith  and it stuck. but he had a C when he went to school in my game for the first time. I ressrrected the elders as well  and they are one happy family. Jennail fell in love with her Husband Kvornan .I still have some tweaking to do  with interest and such  but the bolts will likely show as soon as  I do that. . Jennail is currently pregnant in my game with twins. her 4 wants are earn some money ,have a baby, Fricorith gets a scholarship and Kiss Kvornan..  they fell head over heels in love very quickly in my game. have you tried using the relations adjustor  with the  insimenator?I resssurected the elders as well Jennicor and JonSmith Tricou  and my Family tree reads as follows  Jennicor and Jon Smith Tricou are   married to one another  they have  two daughters  Nylissit and  Jennail. Nylissit is  married to Kiernan and they have a daughter Gvaudoin.  so the family .Jennail is Married to Kvornan and they have a son Fricorith.the relationships show correctly in Sim PE and the enhancer in my Game. do you have the ltest version of SimPE?  if not that could be your problem as the old version is known to Fubar sim relationships

The relationships in my game were wierd at first too, and I had to put some memories back with SimPE.  Kvornan and Jennail knew they were married, but Nylissit and Kiernan didn't.  And Jonathan and Jennicor got three lightning bolts for each other straight away!

I found that getting the lightning bolts to show for each of the other couples only happened after they went for groceries and woohooed in the photo booth!

mine all knew who they were married to I just had to tweak their interests a bit .Jennail and Kvornan had 2 bolts after tweaking their interests and 3 after woohoo which resulted in instant pregnancy for Jennail and before he even knew Jennail ws pregnant he was walking around their home with a pacifier in his thought bubble Fricorith is working and has made friends with most of the people in the projects where he lives . Jennail is pregnant with twins and is a paramedic. Fricorith is in the culinary field teen career and Kvornan is in Law enforcement his LTW is to be captain hero. I havent been to Nylissit's or Jennicor's yet to move them in they are next. I di give Kvornan anew custom Hair do and I gave  Fricorith a new hairdo and took off his  makeup as his girlfriend didnt like the makeup. I also bought Jennail  and Kvornan some new clothes and gave Jennail a new gorgeous custom hairdo. I left their hair colors the same except the guys now have highlights in their hair . the first thing both guys did after recieving their new look was to start checking themselves out while Jennail laughed at them for doing that.

I'm afraid that Fricorith is still wearing make-up, but it doesn't seem to worry Lilith, since her turn ons are fitness and make-up - and he got fit with the dance-sphere!  Now the odd thing is, his turn ons and dark hair and perfume - Lilith still has red hair, although I got rid of that awful hairstyle, and she doesn't possess any perfume!

My Kvornan wanted to be a Professional Party guest, and he's getting there - slowly, but he'll have to give up work for a while when the baby arrives - no nannies allowed in my game!  Jennail is still the same, but she has new clothes and wants more!  She is in the medical profession too, but she is a resident.

Nylissit is in the politics career but she's pregnant now, and Kiernan has just changed his aspiration and is a Family sim!

Oh, and in case you wondered, when each of the downtownie offspring of Jonathan's went to college, he was there to see them off!

which Downtown offspring are Jonathon's

Well, in my game, they are Katharine Macauley, Merlin Phelps, Todd Greaves, Colby Trottier, plus two I can't remember offhand, but they all show the complete list in their family trees plus their father but not thier aunts and uncles etc, of course.  You need to edit them in simPE so they know who the rest of the family is.

They nearly all grew up badly in my game, which is understandable when you think about it! but they are settling in and doing well in college!  So I hope they'll graduate and grow up well!  (I had to get them all to change aspirations, the game has them all as pleasure, which is not the BEST aspiration for getting Honours!)

since I am playing in a custom hood I cant find any of these people where do I look to find them?

Well, they probably have different names if it's a custom hood, but the house where they lived in my game was called Garth.  If you use the teleporter shrub and check any families whose names you don't recognise, you should be able to work out which are Pleasantview and Uni townies as they live in one house, (named after the first townie to make an appearance in the game, I think) but the downtownies all live in a different house.  Then, if you click on the teens and get them into your game you can use the mind control mirror to check which ones are Jonathan's kids.  (Or you can simply go to Uni and move the whole lot across, they will show there in the list of sims ready to go to Uni, but of course, that doesn't give you the opportunity to let them get some skills and grow up well.)

I found them they do live in the garth house. his children in my custom hood are Armando Tang,Damian Rossi,Kacpher Philips,Ronan Kearney,Kimberly Roehnigke and Jaiden Hutchins. I found them in SimPE under sim relations  as soon as I clicked on Armando Tang's picture the family tree  showed his father and siblings  no mother though

No, they don't appear to have one!  What I did was where they shared a last name with another townie or dormie, I made them either cousins or Aunt/Uncle/Nephew/Niece, as I thought it would be good it they had another relative they could get to know!  One of them has now moved his dormie cousin into his house!

I moved them into their father's house and then changed their last names to Tricou in Sim PE  and I linked them to Nylisset,Jennail,Fricorith and Gvaudoin. so now the family symbol appears on the pictures of Jon's legitimate children and  his  grandchildren in their relationship panel. when I saved the game  I had moved Jon,Jennicor,Armando,Damion,Kacpher,Ronan,Jaiden,and Kimberly in to a Mansion in my Mansion district. I then Bought Jon and Jennicor a minivan each. and had Jon drive the kids to school. when I left the neighborhood, some of their wealthy neighbors were visiting them. Joe and Bella  and Finch were  at their newly acquuired mansion  welcoming them to luxurious living. I did give the kids new hair and make up and new clothes so they would fit into their new neighborhood better and I changed five of their aspirations  now only one is a pleasure sim each one got a new aspspiration to fit their personalities there is now a new fortune sim ,a new knowledg sim ,a new romance sim  etc... myknowedge sim  is the least outgoing. my most out going I made into a popularity sim ..I know a couple of teenage boys in the neighborhood will be thrilled to meet Kimberly and Jaiden as for whatever reason there are only three ten girls in the hood that are playable but lots of  teen boys LOL tht are playable . Gvaudoin was snapped off the dating market her first day at school  :)

I, I believe Jennicor would be most upset to know what Jonathan got up to (presumably after she died!) and I never play houses with that number of sims in anyway, so each of these kids is making their own way in the world (but since all the cash ended up at the Macaulay house, Katharine emailed them some money just to get started, before returning the money to the Tricous.  (and after they'd had a bit to improve their house, naturally!  But since Jason is a Fortune sim, I think he should do most of his house-improving himself!)

she probably would be excepth that in my game it shows Jon died first....... and I think the asian child  and the black child of Jon's have her confused as to how these teens came to be . so she has made friends with them . she was telling a joke to Kimberly just before  Jon Rounded up the kids for school and the kids like Jennicor  and according to the relatiomship panel they apparently Knew Jennicor before she died. also Jon's teens in my game  have no memories except ffor the move the just made amd their familytree indicating Jon is the father the girls look alot like Jennail Damian has a strong Resmblance to Fricorith

Well, I don't think they're all Jennicor's or they'd have had the full family tree!  and they wouldn't have had different names - but maybe jonathon was a romance sim who changed his aspiration to family?

oh I dont thin they are Jennicor's however it is possible that Jennicor had a niece or distant cousins that could be the mothers of three of the kids in my game the other three I think were sims without a single connection to Jennicor th

Someone said somewhere here they think those teens had the Tricou father because they were handmade (so they'd be better looking) and needed a father and Maxis just forgot to take them out. That seems possible to me, but I also wonder - as there is definately some vampire connection there somewhere (vis a vis the coffins in the basement) if Maxis wasn't thinking maybe they weren't born to the Tricou's but turned by them (yes I know you can't do that with Sim vampires and the teens aren't vampires, but... just sort of storyline-ish, maybe the company thought we would make them vampires or they'd get turned when someone started playing with them. And they are pleasure sims anyways.

I'm very curious about the Tricou storyline - how the whole family died and which ones went first and what all happened. There's a Tricou house in New Orleans that is reportedly haunted, but I can't find out very much about the family and none of the first names are the same (that I could find). There definately must be a vampire connection somewhere - but there's not (that I know of) any living vampire sim. Wonder if the peasants revolted and killed them all.

Anyway, they're interesting. I'm gonna resurrect them into my new custom neighborhood also. I wish moving sims to a new neighborhood just deleted all their memories and didn't blow games up in a big fiery ball - as it breaks family ties anyway, I don't see why it couldn't just delete all memories of theirs and of them out of the game totally (not realistic, but neither is the game falling apart over A+ memories and too many nannies and baristas :p)

Jennail was the first to die

They may have been vampires, but once they're resurected they seem like fairly normal sims to me, just all very attached to their family!  I admit I did get them all to change their turn-ons, though!

I did too but I took a look at their picture pre-resurrection and I kind of doubt they were vampires they lacked that awful vampire grey. but ya know Brynne has been dealing with them as ghosts forever in her came as her Bayfield Family lives in the house of fallen Trees  the original home of the Tricou family and they have been haunting  the Bayfield residence forever til she put them in Justin's exwife's inventory maybe she could shed some light on ht color the ghosts were as the color determines cause of death . the legacy challenge rules board had a list of death types on there and the color of the ghost for each type of death ie old age  is white

Interesting!  Most of my sims never become ghosts!

most of mine that have died  through causes other than me . have either died  of old age ,a cowplant ate a nanny  I learned the hard way that you have to feed that plant at least 3 or 4 times a day. or it will produce a cake . my sim was dog tired and  Iforgot tohave him feed the cowplant . that night then early the next morning his wife went into labor and in all hustle and bustle to get a nanny there so they could go to work the cowplant wasnt fed again  the nanny arrived took the cake and the plant ate her.my sim didnt go without feeding the cowplant again..I have had one die from a sattellite no I didnt use a hack . unfortunately my sim lived alone and there was no one there to plead for his life. I had a permaplat elder Die of old age.  Kendal Lawson died on the Job for unknown reasons. it was  about 6:30 at night my sim had a new baby in the house and returned to work as a patrol officer Kendal was walking around the outside of the house towards the front door when all of a sudden I see a new nanny I had never seen before  coming down the steps with the baby by the name of Angie Benson. then the buttons greyed out and here comes old grimmy at which point Kendal peed herself and died. simpe said she still had 14 days left to live

ROFL!  In this country, this would probably be misunderstood as on the game!

The only sims who have died in my game, apart from Beau's wife in one version, and he saved her from death anyway, have been townies that I've intentionally killed, and Lilith and/or Angela, depending on which one was being most obnoxious!  This time it was Angela, but it wasn't intended, so I let Mary-Sue resurrect her!

I did kill off three teens and two adults using the insimenator . .other than  those 5 deaths  any other sims have either died of old age, the cowplant,unknown causes or accidental ie the satellite

Well, Angela has drowned, also she has died in a fire.  Lilith died of starvation!  Melissa Fancey once died of being stuck in a loft space.  And when she became a ghost, the only sim on the lot who never saw her was the one who wanted to!

I've had several sims die, mostly cheerleaders and nannies. And a cow. I wanted a cow ghost. Anyway, I had a rather amusing situation a while back with one of my elder sims. She was low on energy, hungry, blah, blah, and the resident ghost popped up and scared her to death. This was right in front of Castor Nova, who is one of her best friends and has been changed to a knowlege sim. So he probably had mixed feelings, but he cried anyway, pleaded with the GR successfully, and Beulah-Madge was saved from death. I hadn't even had time to queue up for her to go inside and take care of some needs when that same damn ghost popped up and killed her again. Castor came to her rescue once more. Back to back deaths, though. Bizarre. Of course I took pictures.

Beulah-Madge dies.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Brynne14/beulahdies.jpg)

Beulah-Madge is saved from death
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Brynne14/beulahdiesrevived.jpg)

Beulah's a bit stunned. Run into the house, Beulah! Run into the house!
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Brynne14/beulahbetweendeaths.jpg)

Beulah is once again scared by the same ghost, in the exact same spot, and the GR had not even left the lot, from the first death. That's the mean, nasty ghost hanging around, there.   
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Brynne14/beulahdiestwice.jpg)

that figures. all my dead sims are in the cemetary now

OH, I forgot the irony of my little story. I created Beulah just so I could kill her and get a really whacky looking old ghost. She's mean and nasty and flirted with all my male sims, but turned out to be a real blast to play. So I didn't want her to die.

I've had sims die from old age and being scared to death. I have also killed a nanny, I originally tried to kill her by drowning but she didn't die properly (disabled UI buttoms but the GR never came for her) so I restarted and killed her by eletrocuted her to death via Rodney's Death Creator. I actually like that better, now they get to keep her tombstone, I would have had to delete it if she'd drowned because drowned ghosts annoy the crap out of me.

Wasn't there an option to change the type of death with testingcheatsenabled and shift-clicking on the tombstone? NL didn't change that, did it?

I havent a clue .when a sim dies on my lot Isent the tombstone to the cemetary as I usually have kids on the lot and a generalized fear for  toddlers and Kids is seeing a ghost

I killed off Gordon King with TOL&D in Pleasantview on the Broke family's lot, choice of death was starvation. IMO, he was so fugly he doesn't need to be a ghost to be able to scare :P. Anyway, I was getting rid of characters (and their files) I'm not interested in playing, and having not seen what a 'hungry' ghost looked like, I killed off Gordon King. I then used testingcheats to change his death type to something else (because the ghost of a sim that died of hunger is supposed to be transparent) so that I'll know when his ghosts appear around the third day, but in the end, I still didn't find out what a hungry ghost looks like, or if they are visible. Haven't tried changing death types since installing NL, as I've gotten rid of Gordon's tombstone/character file and haven't had any deaths, nor have I tried visiting the cemeteries and using testingcheats there.


TJ's Ghost Hack (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php?topic=1227.0) can fix that, as it allows one to change the ghost to scare only knowledge sims, normal scaring of every sim on the lot or not to scare any sims at all. I'm waiting for it to be updated to be compatible with NL so that I can use it again.

I have NL so I will have to wait for him  to be able to update it