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Title: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: nekonoai on 2008 July 16, 16:05:42
Whycome college students can't has kittuns? They can has fish or birds or womrats, but no kittuns. This are sad state of events!

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Seriously, though, I know it's probably because uni was made before pets, and because it would probably cause a BFBVFS, but I know my kittun made college a lot less stressy.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2008 July 16, 16:49:01
I wish I could take my kittehs to college with me. It's going to be so weird not having them around.

Edit to be relevant to Sims: That said, considering what the Mod That Will Not Be Named allows you to do with university lots, it seems like it should be technically possible. I'm not a modder, though.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Jelenedra on 2008 July 16, 17:05:17
Maybe the new *barf* lap dogs will be Uni friendly? Since they can has docking station.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: jsalemi on 2008 July 16, 17:51:30
It's also weird that you don't even ever see strays wandering the college lots. Uni really seems like the forgotten step-child EP most of the time.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: nekonoai on 2008 July 16, 17:59:34
Maybe the new *barf* lap dogs will be Uni friendly? Since they can has docking station.
dogs with a docking station. I wonder if they'll break like the robots that have docking stations.  :D

Quote from: jsalemi
Uni really seems like the forgotten step-child EP most of the time.
I wonder if it was the worst selling EP. Are there stats anywhere saying how many were sold of each EP?


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Dark Trepie on 2008 July 16, 18:04:05
It was the first EP.  I'd be surprised if it wasn't one of the highest selling EP's.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: jolrei on 2008 July 16, 18:45:45
I frankly quite like it - when I get tired of the regular 'hood rat-race of work, skilling, badge-hunting, try to avoid aging too fast, I can go to uni and play entirely different sims with different goals.  Quite relaxing, as a change.  I use the holidays in the same way.  Anyway, if you play it right, there is loads of fight in uni.

I still have not played any pets though, so I was unaware that you couldn't have kittehs there.  Can one have a kitteh in a NL sub-hood/downtown residence?  Presumeably so.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 16, 19:13:27
Yup, kittehs and puppies can be had in downtown and suburb. Just not in Uni. I'd imagine they didn't enable it as that would be something they'd have to deal with moving back to the main 'hood, and who gets it in a house with more than one resident? Anyways, wouldn't Inge's statue work? You should be able to summon and add to family. I'm talking out of my ass, of course, as my sims have been living in dorms for the longest time. More drama....while my dormies aren't dormies indefinitely, they are for an entire generation and have already had childhood (sort of) and the teenage time period to start their relationships up. I don't get too much fighting, but there's plenty of visits to the photo booth.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: morriganrant on 2008 July 16, 20:13:28
Maybe the new *barf* lap dogs will be Uni friendly? Since they can has docking station.
dogs with a docking station. I wonder if they'll break like the robots that have docking stations.  :D

Go put that in the Bork pool! It sounds very likely.

I've never tried, but could you teleport a pet in?
edit: I am blind. Zazazu said that. I was distracted by mental images of lap dogs giving off sparks and needing a screw driver to fix.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: seelindarun on 2008 July 16, 22:57:09
I think the reason we can't have pets at Uni is the aging problem.  Like the vacation 'hoods, normal aging rules don't apply.  I bet though, that if you have uni lots in the main 'hood with Lion's hack, you could have pets.  Zazazu, didn't you just post that you could get a YA and A to co-exist on the same lot?


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 July 16, 22:59:41
The other problem with having pets on Uni lots is that when your sims graduate, the pets will end up abandoned on the lot. Thus why you are allowed only the cage pets. Uni, for the most part, is the forgotten expansion, but it also benefits the most from HAVING other expansions, because its great expansive nothingness is filled by all the other activities added.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 July 17, 00:51:19
I wonder if it was the worst selling EP. Are there stats anywhere saying how many were sold of each EP?
I'd be interested to see something like that too.

My money is on Nightlife as the best-selling. I bet it even sold more than ZOMGPets since the game was younger when NL came out, and it still had everyone's full attention.

I also doubt Uni sold poorly. It was a big to do when it first arrived.

I remember my friends who are non-hardcore simmers were running around yelling, "AHH! I CAN'T WAIT TO GET SIMS 2 UNIVERSITY!!!"

I personally was not fond of the concept until I played it. I didn't buy it for months and only gave in because I got tired of seeing everybody on the internet talking about features I knew nothing of.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 July 17, 00:56:48
The thing with Uni is that it got old REALLY fast. It wasn't until later expansions added more stuff to do PERIOD that it really filled the void. Uni without the other expansions is just really dull. It's the fact that the empty space lets you explore the other expansions that makes it tolerable.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 July 17, 00:58:31
It got especially old fast pre-mods to make it shorter.

I remember the first sims I sent to uni were Angela Pleasant and some alien kid. I really couldn't believe how long it took to play them all the way through.


Title: As EPs go, it wasn't that bad.
Post by: Doc Doofus on 2008 July 17, 01:49:27
At least you got SOMETHING for your money.  Compare that to useless EPs like Freetime.  The hobbies are a total waste of time.  The only nice features of it are the second aspirations and aspiration benefits.  Everything else is trivial.  Hard to justify the price (although I got mine at a hefty, hefty discount).



Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 July 17, 02:18:35
A lot of the new objects are fun though.

I'm also a fan of perma-plat no longer being reliant on a career or some other stupid thing that I don't feel like doing.

I never want to skill my sims anymore though because they'll start getting uncharacteristic obsessions and start doing stupid little annoying animations every five seconds.

Are there any mods out there to nix those btw? The stomach patting and the whistling MUST DIE. Although the a&c framing anim is funny because many times it is aimed at boobs, and lol happens because I'm 12.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 17, 04:25:14
I think the reason we can't have pets at Uni is the aging problem.  Like the vacation 'hoods, normal aging rules don't apply.  I bet though, that if you have uni lots in the main 'hood with Lion's hack, you could have pets.  Zazazu, didn't you just post that you could get a YA and A to co-exist on the same lot?
Yes, but that was a residential lot in the main 'hood. Not a dorm or a lot in Uni. The phone options are still not present in a Uni 'hood...I have two kids waiting for their turn in the rotation right now, and no options to call Pet Adoption appear.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Emma on 2008 July 17, 05:44:11


Are there any mods out there to nix those btw? The stomach patting and the whistling MUST DIE. Although the a&c framing anim is funny because many times it is aimed at boobs, and lol happens because I'm 12.

I'm 36 and the 'lol' still happens for me too. :D


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Havelock on 2008 July 17, 09:30:58
It should be possible with a Pet Teleporter to add a Kat or Dog to a Dorm or Residential House in Uni Hood. I have done so it was Fun. But you have to remove the Pet before the last YA goes home in the main Hood. It is possible to sell or give away the Pet to a Adult invited in a Dorm (it worked with Seasons, later i had no Pet in my Uni).


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: sloppyhousewife on 2008 July 17, 10:09:51
...
I never want to skill my sims anymore though because they'll start getting uncharacteristic obsessions and start doing stupid little annoying animations every five seconds.

Are there any mods out there to nix those btw?
...

TJ has a hack that reduces the hobby gestures, and Paladin one that completely stomps them. I have the latter and are very happy with it. Now all I need is something to stomp the 500 pt. hobby wants.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 July 17, 10:43:33
We've tried already. They lack check trees and refuse to be properly stomped.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: buddha pest on 2008 July 17, 11:01:13
Ugh. Even "blog about" and "talk about?"

That is where the stupid animations come in handy. You can know which townies  to "talk about" to.

Okay, maybe I do hate Free Time...just a little lot.

Modders used to could fix it. Anti-sports party wants, anti-shrub-buying wants, anti-all the stupid EP-related bullshit....

Oh, yesteryear.  :'(


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: nekonoai on 2008 July 17, 12:18:24
omg is there hacks that prevents them from trying to use the computer for hobbytime? Cause they get so angry when someone is using the one computer on the lot. LOL



Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Roux on 2008 July 17, 12:49:57
omg is there hacks that prevents them from trying to use the computer for hobbytime? Cause they get so angry when someone is using the one computer on the lot. LOL



Try TwoJeffs' Computer Fixes (http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php/topic,13.0.html). I play with the no autonomy version, and have since been a much happier camper.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: sloppyhousewife on 2008 July 17, 12:50:19
We've tried already. They lack check trees and refuse to be properly stomped.
I noticed that when I tried to stomp them myself. Too bad you can't just delete them from the wants package (although this seemed to work) - the attempt broke my pottery wheel.

@buddha pest: From what I've seen, the only hobby wants that do have check trees (and thus could be stomped) are the max enthusiasm wants which are the only ones with decent aspiration (8,000?).


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: nekonoai on 2008 July 17, 20:14:07
Try TwoJeffs' Computer Fixes (http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php/topic,13.0.html). I play with the no autonomy version, and have since been a much happier camper.
*bleats in your direction*


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Lorelei on 2008 July 18, 06:55:32
Huh. To address the original post, I don't know of any dorm-based colleges in real life that allow dogs, cats, ferrets, rabbits, or any other animals besides fish, and even those might be verboten. I know I tried to take my furry friend with me to college as a dorm-dwelling undergrad and was denied, and that our RAs checked regularly to enforce the NO PET rule.

If pets were allowed, they'd be setting themselves up for lawsuits of one student's dog bit another student, sanitation issues when students were slack about scooping poop and cleaning cages (if some students can't figure out how to wash laundry, their approach to pet care isn't going to be better), pet damage to buildings, allergic students, students who co-owned a pet fighting over who takes it home on holiday or just abandoning it, rodent pets getting loose and becoming pests, and so on.

Of course, Sims in UNIville who don't live in dorms should, technically, be able to own a pet, but the fact that UNI predates PETZOMG and the weird way time is handled there means it wouldn't work well.

The ASPCA would probably endorse the NO PETS IN UNI rule. Friends who work with pet rescue groups frequently cite student abandonment of pets of all types at the top of their lists of Irresponsible Ownership Issues.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 July 18, 16:42:28
In our dorms, technically not even fish were allowed. However, a lot of people had fish or turtles. I had frogs, until my insane, possibly murderous roommate threw a fit due to Frisky's nighttime croaking. In the college-owned apartments it was a different story. The rules were the same, but people had numerous pets short of dogs. One friend of mine had two chinchillas, an iguana, three ferrets, and a cat.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: rufio on 2008 July 18, 23:04:51
I had a cat in Uni by accident recently - I had another sim give her the cat on their own lot, forgetting that she'd already moved into the dorm.  Nothing bad happened, other than that the cat did not age for the the entire four years of college.  I just had her give the cat back to her parents before she moved back to the main hood.

IRL, I know you can't usually have pets at college, but I knew a girl in college who secretly kept a cat in her dorm room anyway.  I don't think anyone whose opinion mattered ever found out about it.


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Liz on 2008 July 19, 17:14:07
Are there any mods out there to nix those btw? The stomach patting and the whistling MUST DIE. Although the a&c framing anim is funny because many times it is aimed at boobs, and lol happens because I'm 12.
I'm 36 and the 'lol' still happens for me too. :D
Another 36 here with 'lol' happening. I lol more, though, over the athletic animation which inevitably begins the moment two sims stop talking to each other, resulting in many mimed punches in the face. It's like, "Ah, yes, I also like fancy blue hats. Please accept this right hook to your jaw."


Title: Re: It are unfair! Lack of Kittuns brings morale down!
Post by: Insanity Prelude on 2008 July 19, 20:20:26
I haven't actually noticed any hobby animations yet, other than Dina Caliente doing the M&D one whenever I leave her idle for a moment.