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Pedobait's PC is officially FUBAR'ed. Thank God for sister's laptop. Apologies of any spelling/grammar errors.

I was on the 'net and my shitbox PC froze on me. I restarted it, and I got the error "NTLDR is missing press Ctrl + Alt + Delete to restart". I looked around with my mad Google-fu and I have no idea how to fix it. I don't understand hardcore techie language, forgive me.

OK, so I read that I can make the computer work by copying files from the Win XP installation CD. But I don't have it. I have a zOMG Vista upgrade disk, but when I put in the program key thing-o it said I had to install Windoze from my current OS.

In short, WTF do I do? Could I just by a new Windoze CD and re-install it? If I have to go to Vista I will, and I don't have any importaint stuff on the PC so I don't mind losing anything. Luckily the semester is almost over so I don't have any assignments to work on. Windoze can suck on my big, hairy, metaphorical balls. I really hate Micosoft right about now.

Thank you for any advice, and if I dissappear for ages this is why.

ETA: I know how to access the CD drive so I could re-install Windoze but I don't know how to make a boot disk. WTF is a boot disk? Yeah, Windoze will get a boot alright. A boot up the ass with my steelcaps!

I had something similar happen to me on a computer a few years back, and I think we were able to recover all the data by acquiring a new windows CD (don't buy one, borrow one off a friend) and doing a reinstall but not a complete reformat.  If you don't mind losing all the data, I'd go down that path.
Unfortunately, I have the horrible sinking feeling that this was a major symptom of the computer dying, however, and we ended up replacing it as a result.

Hopefully someone can lend you some more helpful advice!

"NTLDR is missing" : http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm#b

If that's hard to understand, your only choice is to reinstall windows. A copy of Windows XP installation CD can be found at the pirate bay ;)

Just double check you haven't got a floppy disk in the drive and that your PC is not set to boot from floppy.

Not that that's EVER happened to me....

boot disk in old days was floppy disk that gave you a bit of OS to get you moving (so you could install other things..oh like an OS)

Technically if you have the original xp cd..just pop that in the drive and go. Most OS cdroms are bootable
You may need to load into bios to make sure booting from CDROM is enabled.
(usually press delete right after post beep)


If you pirate .. you need to read up on how to make a bootable cdrom for the OS you are burning to disk. This can be easy or difficult depending on the OS on the computer you are making the burn on.

Not just in the old days, akshully, it's current if you have to load RAID drivers during an OS install.

Still worth checking out the floppy drive first if you get that error message.

I don't have the XP installation disk, all I have is the Vista upgrade disks that don't work. I've found something that might work, but I'm not putting money on it. I don't use floppies EVAH so I know that's not the problem.

I don't know how to torrent, and I doubt I'll be able to torrent a whole bloody OS. Worst comes to worst I'll buy Vista. zOMG!

Or, well...I've always wanted a new computer...

ETA: I followed these (http://www.tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm) instructions, and it didn't work. Fuck this shit. Srsly.

Witch is right.

Course I was tired too when I was typing. Generally it is wonderful practice to have some version of the OS around. If this is a bought pc you might have a reinstall on a different part of the harddrive. In that case (talking like dells/compaq so on)you should have special instructions when you boot to get to that part of the harddrive.

Usually comes up during post (the beep when it turns on).

If all else fails a new OS disk of whatever flavor should work. NOTE if this was vista and you get something other than vista to install you are looking at a full format (lose all data) to get that OS on there.

Fuck it, I'm getting Vista. I'm sick of trying to reboot the bastard. Wait, does Microsoft still sell XP CDs? Or am I stuck with zOMG Vista?

Torrenting is not an option.

Why is torrenting not an option? It's easy peasy, even I can do it! Similar to using Limewire, Napster or whatever else have you. 

Frankly, I'm lazy. I don't want to bother torrenting XP when I can spend about $200 on Vista.

So... you'd rather waste money than spend 5 minutes learning how to torrent? $200 is ridonkulous.

My sister is very apposed to Torrenting so if I pulled XP out of my ass she'll know where I got it from. Also, I'd have to download all the programs I need to torrent and since it would be on one of her computers she'd know what I'm up to.

IF I managd to torrent XP she'll see it, tell my folks, all hell will break lose (I'm breaking the law - zOMG!) so it's just easier to get Vista.

If the PC came with XP, usually there's backup boot discs that come with it - are you sure they're not around somewhere?

Otherwise, don't just spend the money - talk about your problem with the person at the computer store.  They're usually pretty helpful (unless it's a big brand name place like Harvey Norman or Dick Smith) and they might be able to help you with your problem for cheaper than buying the Vista install disc.

*snort*  Mine didn't, and a lot of the pre-builts don't these days. Mine did come with a program that makes a recovery disc for you (provide your own dvd!).

The PC came with XP, but then we upgraded to Vista, so we trashed the disks. Mother didn't like Vista, so she got some techie type person who came over and put XP on it again, that's why we don't have the XP disks.

We've spent ages fixing and upgrading the shitbox, if I had my way I'd just buy a new PC. Or I'll just get Vista.

I might be getting the sister's laptop (she's "bored" with her current one and wants a new one) so I mightn't need a new desktop anyways.

I wonder what kind of reinstall the techy did.

At this point I am for your idea of getting Vista. I think a REAL INSTALL of an OS is the only way to fix it at this point. Who knows what jumbled amount of OS back and forth is there between Xp to update VISTA back to XP.

I wonder if a real format was ever done on this drive.

IF you do decide to get vista, I strongly suggest the cold hard format the disk option when you start the install process. Better to lose everything now then to get something half assed up and running only to crash again.

If she asks, tell your sister that you borrowed XP disks from a friend or some other such story.  Lying about it is even easier than torrenting, and a child of 12 can torrent.  Coincidentally...

Torrenting does take a bit of time, depending on your intarwebz speeds.  I count on about 4-6 hours for any TS2 EP, possibly a bit less for Windoze XP, on a reasonably fast ADSL hookup.  You will want to tie up and gag your sister and dump her in the hall closet during this period.

"Honestly sis, my friend said I had to put you in the closet or she wouldn't let me borrow her XP disks."

You may need a better story than this.

Tell them it's part of installing the new service pack.

I'm going to get Vista ASAP. I need my computer back, damn it! I might torrent the actual game, although the sister has the disks.

It'll be up and running before the end of the week. Thank God.

Your sister sounds like a poop-face. I second Jolrei's "dump-her-in-the-closet" suggestion.

Nah she's not a poop-face, she just doesn't like the thought of torrenting. Anyways, I prefer Vista over XP. I'm a minority, I know.

I knew a guy who thought Win ME was the best operating system ever.  We thought he was weird.

We ought to make a Vista fan club. I prefer it too :D We can all sit in my lovely Vista chairs courtesy of J.M. Pescado.

*rolls eyes* God Jess, just tell Steve to buy her a new computer so you can have hers!

You don't know your license key for XP? Torrenting a copy wouldn't be illegal, it all has to do with the license. Hell you can use one OS disk to install to multiple pcs legally if you have a license for each.

Don't you worry about that, I'm the in process of scoring her laptop. Sarah desided she wants a Mac, so for all I know Steve could buy her a Mac for her birthday and my parents will buy her a Macbook for Uni.


Nope. I have no idea how we got XP on the Shitbox without getting the disks. I'd rather have Vista over XP though :P $200 doesn't mean much to my folks.

It doesn't matter how you got it.  If you got a serial (which you do, one way or another if you had it installed) you have rights.

BUT VISTA IS CRAP!

If you bought a pre-built pc, that came with XP installed already, then the license number for XP should be on a sticker or something somewhere on the tower.

NEVER trash your discs. I still have a copy of win98 floating around my room somewhere.

They do still sell winxp in the store. It'll be cheaper and more reliable. ;P

Friends don't let friends buy VISTA.

I didn't trash my discs, mine never came with the discs. I think my family may have lost my 95 discs somewhere.

Arrrr!  Dammit!  Arrrr!

If you had XP loaded and can't find your CD key/serial number thingy, you can still simply replace XP via a torrented copy.  It's stable (more or less), it works.  It does not eat all your RAMZ before you even get logged on.  This is a good thing if you want any RAMZ left for the game.

If someone (sister) asks you, you say you just reloaded from a downloaded backup using the old license.

Also, the arrrtificial copy doesn't need to be activated after installation, or when you change hardware.

As always, take heed while you obtain your copy from the internet, or it may become tarrrnished.

Always read the comments at the pirate cove, to make sure it doesn't do anything untoward.

Don't forget that underhanded totalitarian régimes condemn this kind of activity, therefore you must keep your activities away from prying eyes. This can be accomplished if you use an IP filter, like peer guardian.

It doesn't matter anyway, we're getting a computer custom built which we'll have sometime next week. We had no choice but to get Vista. I've used Vista before and it's not THAT bad...

Also it turns out my old PC had SecuROM on it, and my CD drive stopped working. So it's win/win in my eyes.