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Title: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 01:37:29
I don't know why but I am still afraid to use it and was wondering if any of you actually tried to put a few in their houses to check if it is really fix or not.

Call me chicken if you want but I won't use it until it is confirmed to be risk free.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: gali on 2005 October 30, 02:30:20
Ditto - I stopped using it too, after I read so many "buggy remote control" threads.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the pa
Post by: Brynne on 2005 October 30, 02:32:56
damn buggy remote-controlled buggy... ;D


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: Andygal on 2005 October 30, 03:03:31
I hate that thing. It's annoying and sims won't stop playing with it. I had it in one of my houses once (legacy challenge, needed cheap entertainment) but I've never had it since. Stupid Remote control car.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 03:07:00
Well I mostly wonder in regards of greek houses since Sim would sometimes bring that item randomly.  I completely stop having greek houses in my game because I was afraid one would bring that devil item home and I would not spot it fast enough.

Now I know to have greek houses is ok the problems are fixed but I don't want to spend all my time checking out if any Sim would bring back that devil item home (well that is if it is still a devil item), I have other things to do lol.  ;D

It is nice to see on the other hand that I am not the only "chicken" around lol  ;D


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the pa
Post by: cwieberdink on 2005 October 30, 03:36:06
damn buggy remote-controlled buggy... ;D

buggy rubber baby bumpers. 

Sorry.  Had to.

Chris


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the pa
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 03:44:52
damn buggy remote-controlled buggy... ;D

buggy rubber baby bumpers. 

Sorry.  Had to.

Chris

Humm Am I mistaken or this quote is taken from a very old Simpsons episode? Doh!  Well it made me think of that somehow lol.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: ElviraGoth on 2005 October 30, 03:49:54
Rubber buggy baby bumpers is a lot older than the Simpsons!  Probably as old as Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 03:58:06
Rubber buggy baby bumpers is a lot older than the Simpsons!  Probably as old as Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.

Oh ok then, well I am French Canadian so this explains why it is not part of my culture...  Thanks for the tip  ;)


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the pa
Post by: Brynne on 2005 October 30, 04:09:51
Rubber buggy baby bumpers is a lot older than the Simpsons!  Probably as old as Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.

How many pickled peppers did Peter Piper pick?
toy boat toy boat toy boat


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 04:27:54
In French you would have something like this:  "Les chemises de l'archiduchesse sont-elles sechent? archi-sechent."

or this "Combien coute ces six saucisssons-ci? Ces six saucissons-ci coutent six cent six sous."

Now let's get back to the topic or do I need to remove my chicken outfit and put my frenchfried outfit instead  :P


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: gali on 2005 October 30, 04:44:16
I think I am going to be brave and test it, lol. I have so many hacks - and it is Maxis original. I really want to see if it causes any harm. I bought it when I played Uni, and don't remember having problems  in the game. I sold it, because my sims always wanted to play with it, which disturbed my plans for them...:). But after I read several "warning" threads, I stopped to buy it.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 04:53:07
Well I might do the same too (but of course will do a back-up previous to this, my chicken side I guess).

With two on the test it should be a good start. Any other that feel like removing their chicken outfit feel free to join the fun :P


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: gali on 2005 October 30, 04:57:52
Lol, I backup each 3 days my playable neighbourhood, or as I finish to play with a family (sometimes it's each 2 days) - thus I always can restore the previous backup.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 05:23:56
Primary test results.

I have put that car in 2 houses in regular neighborhoods and save while they were using it which I read was the worst possible time.  So far none of my families lost any memory or acted weirdly.  I put one in a house in which a Sim is in the science field which, if I am not mistaken, have the best chance of coming back home with the flu to see if we still get a message that the remote control car is sick with the flu.

I will keep you posted.  I don't have greek houses in my game like I mention already so if anyone want to test that part go ahead.

God I feel better in that frenchfried suit than the chicken one  :P  In case it does matter I wanted to mention that after installing the patch I made sure the objects.package file was a read-only type.

EDIT:  They both came back with money from work, now let see if they can get a promotion.  One of them just had a chance card, so far so good! 
EDIT 2:  Now that was fast, yes my sim did got a promotion it is looking very good.  Memories are there for the promotion.  Now let's see if I quit and reload the game if evevything is still there.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: gali on 2005 October 30, 05:53:12
Lol, missdoh, you are going to be very good Beta-Tester!

You beat me at this, but this is your thread, and I am glad you make the Beta-Testing.

Isn't this fun?...:).


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 06:18:29
Lol, missdoh, you are going to be very good Beta-Tester!

You beat me at this, but this is your thread, and I am glad you make the Beta-Testing.

Isn't this fun?...:).

yes it is indeed lol but if you have result on your side Gali I would really appreciate you post them too to confirm ...  When I have something in my head it is not in my feet (Canadian French expression roughly translated)  ;)  I guess I decided to have faith in Maxis in this matter and I knew what I needed to check, it might be different with mods or hacks unless I am directed to check specific behavior... :-\

EDIT 3 of the results:  Restarted the game, checked the memory of the 2 families and they are still ok.  Added a 3rd remote control car in another family and saved while they were using it.  Check my 2 families with it already and they have intact memories.  Reload the lot with the science family to see if they will get a promotion and indeed they did... so again, so far so good, no memory loss accured in this testl.  Intense testing here but it is worth it  :P  So far it seems to be fix.  I don't see any reason why in University hood it would make memory disappear if it did not in regular hood.  Finally I went back to the 3rd family which were using the car and they were ok too.

Sorry if I gave you all the step I did but it is to help you finding out if I did it good or not.  So far my science Sim did not came home with the flu so I can not tell you if I would still get the stupid message saying the remote control car is sick... I will post about this as soon as it happens or please post if you know the results.  :)

EDIT 4:  Last test  I did is check if I would delete them in all the 3 houses I put them if it would make the game go beserk.. it did not... every memory is still there....


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: Ancient Sim on 2005 October 30, 07:04:34
Everytime I see one in a house I take it out.  I've had quite a few errors with Sims since installing the patch and in every case there was a remote control car in the house.  When I took the car out, the errors vanished.  I will never use it again.  Can't say I want to anyway, the stupid thing drives me crazy.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 07:06:33
Well I did not have any of those car prior to install the patch so it could have make a difference.  In case you wonder....


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: Motoki on 2005 October 30, 12:18:29
Any of you who have been trying it should check the last modified date of your objects.package file. If it's not August but October then the damn thing is corrupting it even if the effects aren't showing yet.

I haven't tried it since the Patch, but I tried it when NL came out and it was supposedly "fixed" and it wasn't. :P I didn't see it on the list of stuff for the NL patch either. I know the NL patch also included stuff from the Uni patch, but a lot of that stuff on that list was stuff already fixed in the base NL add-on and they just listed it because the Uni people are only just now getting those fixes with their patch.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: kewian on 2005 October 30, 12:23:29
So apparently the patch works?  Good..I liked the car. I always wanted to see if a toddler would chase it.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: ElviraGoth on 2005 October 30, 13:54:14
Rubber buggy baby bumpers is a lot older than the Simpsons!  Probably as old as Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.

Oh ok then, well I am French Canadian so this explains why it is not part of my culture...  Thanks for the tip  ;)

What's really funny is I haven't heard that since I was a kid.  (I don't watch the Simpsons.)  And I'm a LOT older than the Simpsons! :D

I only ever bought one rc car, I think, and my sims hardly ever looked at it.  So I figured if they weren't going to play with it, why buy it?  And I never had any problems with that lot.  But when I read about the problems people were having, I definitely avoided it.  Especially since I was having problems with cell phones.  When I found out about the car problems, I went back into Pleasantview, which I haven't played in months, to find the car and delete it, but I couldn't remember which house had it!  I may have already deleted it because they pretty much ignored it anyway.

I wonder - if I went back and found that house, would that same car be ok, or would I need to get rid of it and buy another?


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: BlueSoup on 2005 October 30, 17:06:33
When I first started playing, before I knew anything about the game, I put the RC car in a house, and the Sims wouldn't leave it alone.  Finally, I had enough of that, so I removed the car and never let them have another.  I was relieved of that when I read about the mass destruction it causes.

I never let them have myshuno either.  Or TV. 


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: Hook on 2005 October 30, 17:27:39
I haven't had the remote control car in a house since playing the tutorial. :)

At least the TV is ok with the cheat to turn down the volume:

floatProp tvVolume 0.1

Default is 0.5 which annoys other people in the house.  My house, that is.  The Sims don't complain about the volume.

Hook


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 18:21:38
Any of you who have been trying it should check the last modified date of your objects.package file. If it's not August but October then the damn thing is corrupting it even if the effects aren't showing yet.

I haven't tried it since the Patch, but I tried it when NL came out and it was supposedly "fixed" and it wasn't. :P I didn't see it on the list of stuff for the NL patch either. I know the NL patch also included stuff from the Uni patch, but a lot of that stuff on that list was stuff already fixed in the base NL add-on and they just listed it because the Uni people are only just now getting those fixes with their patch.

From what I remember reading on this site from MaxoidTom that was not fix in NL, but it is with the patch:

"Fixed a major issue where loading a lot with the remote control car in use would make all memory and job icons blank"

This is exactly what I tested yesterday night and it worked fine, no Sims have lost their memory and new ones appeared and stayed, they did get promotions, chance card and received their pay.  My objects.package file is a read-only I don't know if it made the difference but from what I tested it seems to be fixed now.

My Sims seems to love that item, every chance they had they wanted to play with it.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: Ness on 2005 October 30, 19:45:11
I believe that if the objects.package was read only, then it would prevent the problem from occurring anyway.

The real test would be to have not marked the file as read only - put a car on the lot, save while someone is using it, and then see what happens.

And I've got to admit, I'm not brave enough to do it!

Ness


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the pa
Post by: Brynne on 2005 October 30, 19:46:52

The real test would be to have not marked the file as read only - put a car on the lot, save while someone is using it, and then see what happens.


Now, why would we want to do that? ;)


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the pa
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 20:44:57

The real test would be to have not marked the file as read only - put a car on the lot, save while someone is using it, and then see what happens.


Now, why would we want to do that? ;)

You know who! me of course... now let's do a copy of that objects.package file 1st though in case anything goes wrong.  Ah the things you make me do while I wear that frenchfried suit....

I will come back later with the final final test about this.... wish me luck! (Maxis you better not fail me here!)


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 21:08:55
Ok here is the set-up I am doing right now:

Family 1:  added a car and saved while they are playing with the car

Family 2:  added a card and saved while they are playing with the car while one of the Sim is at work

Family 3:  add the car, I am just checking to see if they will get the promotion and paycheck they should and if they will keep memory of it.  Will play with car while the Sim is at work but will save, go back to neighborhood and return to it.

So far the objects.package file as not been modified, it is still dated of 09/30 which is the date after patch.

Be back later with the results


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 30, 21:47:15
Here are the results, I am happy to say it is fix.  Let me say after I did the set-up I quitted my game even restarted my computer (was not necessary but I did it anyway), I check the objects.package file again it was not modify.

Family 1 while the whole test was going did not stop playing with the car (saved them that way)

Family 2 Got a chance card, came back with promotion and got paid, I saved return to lot check the memory and all is there.

Family 3 Also got paid when return from work and got a promotion, all memories where there.

I just quit my game, check the objects.package file and it is not modify so I turn it back to be a read-only file.

Now can I put my chicken outfit back please  :P


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: Motoki on 2005 October 31, 02:22:55
Okay I suppose I will cautiously start trying it again. But I have had other issues with it too, like the damned sound effect for it not going away even after the sim stopped using it and even after they sold it. :P I will use it and cross my fingers and blame you Missdoh if anything goes wrong lol! ;) j/k


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the pa
Post by: RainbowTigress on 2005 October 31, 02:35:07
I think I'll leave the remote control car playing to y'all for now.  Flamingo-kicking is still safe and fills fun in no time.  Like Motoki, I had problems with the sound continuing even when no one was playing it, which drove me nuts.  And the Sims drove me nuts playing with the dang thing every chance they got.  So it went bye-bye.  My sims have other fun things when they can afford them, but I can't stand it when they stand around whining because their fun has bottomed out, so it's off to kick a flamingo for a while.  And of course flamingoes are essential for College rampages and Skillinating.


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 October 31, 03:22:07
Okay I suppose I will cautiously start trying it again. But I have had other issues with it too, like the damned sound effect for it not going away even after the sim stopped using it and even after they sold it. :P I will use it and cross my fingers and blame you Missdoh if anything goes wrong lol! ;) j/k

From what I heard the sound was ok, it stop after they played and the car was parked if this can reassure you  ;)  I have a wide back, you can blame it on me if anything goes wrong with that car, I will then blame it on Maxis  :P


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: baratron on 2005 November 02, 04:45:29
Thank you, Missdoh, for your patient testing. I can either click the imaginary bene button, or the imaginary thanks button. Which would you prefer? :D


Title: Re: Anyone tried to add the "remote control car" in their Sim house since the patch?
Post by: MissDoh on 2005 November 02, 21:37:12
Lol, no need for that in here I am happy that you find this test useful.

Now everyone can use that car in their game if they wish.  Just a reminder though, it is important to avoid future problems until hum hum another patch comes out or a mod/hack is made that you make your objects.package a read-only file.  A lot of things we do in game can modify this package which is not a good thing (like having Mrs. Crumplebottom moved-in, killed or bitten for example)

That file is located in c:/programfiles/eagames/theSims2Nightlife/tsdata/res/objects.

Simply right clic on it, select properties and then make sure there is a mark in the "read-only" icon, then apply and save.