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Title: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2008 February 28, 08:53:00
What the fuck!

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n1/tigerlilley21/Random%20shiz/Sims%20Stuffs/sciencesecretlot.jpg)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n1/tigerlilley21/Random%20shiz/Sims%20Stuffs/secretlot2.jpg)

Can anyone else get to the Science Club in Pleasantview?


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: ShortyBoo on 2008 February 28, 09:13:56
Wow, that's really screwed up. I've only been to the Tinkering, Arts & Crafts and Music & Dance lots, but those were fine.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2008 February 28, 09:45:35
Right.

I have no idea how to fix this so I would like to build the secret lot myself.  Does anyone know how to do this?  The instructions for building a BV secret lot, will not work.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Emma on 2008 February 28, 15:39:46
That can't be right-half the lot is on the pavement and road! I haven't got Free Time yet-and with all these bugs I don't think I'm going to exactly rush to install it....


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: jolrei on 2008 February 28, 16:03:55
Yes, the staircase on the road verger is particularly lulzy.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 February 28, 16:28:06
Whats with the weird L-shaped warp section?

I haven't tried going to a secret lot in a custom 'hood. I got too pissed by returning animation errors to keep playing sims I like. Has anyone tried to get to one in a custom 'hood?


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Assmitten on 2008 February 28, 16:35:50
OH DON. If by science he means, "I'm gonna experiment on you with Roofies."


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: jolrei on 2008 February 28, 16:44:25
All these errors are too much.  I'm going to load FT and run from a new custom test hood.  I think I'll put Emma in the hood and see how she fares.  That will at least avoid borking my current running MATY and BV hoods, and it might just be amusing.

Strap on your protective suit Emma.  You're going in!  :-*


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Emma on 2008 February 28, 17:01:20
All these errors are too much.  I'm going to load FT and run from a new custom test hood.  I think I'll put Emma in the hood and see how she fares.  That will at least avoid borking my current running MATY and BV hoods, and it might just be amusing.

Strap on your protective suit Emma.  You're going in!  :-*

Hey! Emma torture day has ended! :D

I am definitely using Jolrei as my test sim for FT now...Jolrei and Pescado. Perhaps I'll get a little thing going between them...just for testing purposes you understand... ;)


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: jolrei on 2008 February 28, 17:10:38
I am definitely using Jolrei as my test sim for FT now...Jolrei and Pescado. Perhaps I'll get a little thing going between them...just for testing purposes you understand... ;)

I can see that "Death to Emma" note going back up already.  ;D


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: jsalemi on 2008 February 28, 17:46:34
I haven't got Free Time yet-and with all these bugs I don't think I'm going to exactly rush to install it....

I picked it up today but I'm in no rush, either. Gotta finish building and configuring my new PC first, anyway, including a bigger C: drive, since I've just about run out of space on the old one I took out of my last computer.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Scotty on 2008 February 28, 19:01:48
MaxisEA sucks!


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2008 February 28, 20:22:57
Whats with the weird L-shaped warp section?


I have no idea.  But its like a mirror.  If I move the camera around, I can see reflections of bits of hill and cliff that don't exist.



Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: jolrei on 2008 February 28, 20:24:44
MaxisEA sucks!

How dare you!  I'm crushed and my world view is ruined.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: gynarchy on 2008 February 28, 20:40:54
There, there jolrei, it will be okay. We all say things we don't mean from time to time.  :P


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Liz on 2008 February 28, 21:28:50
Yes, the staircase on the road verger is particularly lulzy.

Also lulzy is the tree in the middle of the road - basically the whole lot is exactly backwards, with its own little time/space warp bubble of street where the back of the lot should be.
*hangs head and weeps for the sad state of affairs at EAxis*


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2008 February 28, 21:59:56
Hey you're right, the house is backwards.

The FUCK?


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Scotty on 2008 February 28, 22:01:13
I never even got into the secret lot, because the game crashed. And I'm in my own custom hood. I haven't tried it with a MaxisEA hood yet. I really don't have the patience for this. It's shit like this that's made me stop playing the game months ago. I'm sick of it.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Assmitten on 2008 February 28, 22:11:25
Hey you're right, the house is backwards.

The FUCK?

More like Secret Sidewalk Club.  :D


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: gynarchy on 2008 February 28, 22:15:13
Quick, burn Don's banana hammocks before he gets home!


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2008 February 28, 22:21:22
Don is dead!
I shall send a sim round to kick his grave.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2008 March 03, 15:05:16
Sounds like your neighborhood has crosslinked lot entries. I think that's a BFBVFS.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: madamejeanie on 2008 March 03, 15:34:43
I haven't got Free Time yet-and with all these bugs I don't think I'm going to exactly rush to install it....

I've been looking forward to getting it this week, but I'm sitting here reading through all these threads and getting more apprehensive by the minute...


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: floopyboo on 2008 March 03, 15:43:56
I picked up my copy of the ep yesterday, and have yet to pop it in. The guy who sold it to me for $10 more than the rrp was a misogynistic prick who didn't understand the appeal of god games & tried to rally mr floopy to bully me about my game of choice. That was fun.

So, with many good things heard about the game & many happy memories of the purchase, I'm waiting before installing. I don't think I can play without my hacks. I definitely won't play without the fixes.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: burnished_dragon on 2008 March 03, 16:33:29
I have gone to a couple of secert hobby places in a custom lot, so far no problems, mind you I am running very few downloads and hacks. I have discovered I will have to start playing the game in speed 3 as it can get very long way to much stuff to do and I like perfect maxed out sims :-[


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Faizah on 2008 March 03, 16:55:15
That's kind of funny -- in an 'I won't be playing Pleasantview any time soon' sort of way -- as Don Lothario's home is frequently my own little science club, and Don my lab rat. More biology really. He could have his woohoos, as long as they satisfied my curiousity about sim genetics. My most bred sim, he had over 30, to 30 different sims, in one of my earliest installs, but I never did get any 'memorable' spawn from him. Cassandra, on the other hand, spawned what would later become my pollination tech.

To get back on topic, if it were my game, I'd just remodel Don's lot to suit. Put in a few telescopes, ant farms, etc... Does the hobby instructor still show up? If so, it might be salvageable, if a little fiery and ball-shaped.

Second thing I'd try, being fairly less awesome, would be to restart Pleasantview from scratch...

I'll have a look in my recently restarted Pleasantview. I think I'll use Don. ;)

...

Don got in, went to the [correct] lot, went home again. I used 'Walk to lot...' if that makes any difference.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 March 03, 17:11:41
Sounds like your neighborhood has crosslinked lot entries. I think that's a BFBVFS.
I have blank hobby lots in my custom 'hood, but I'm not entirely sure I didn't do it to myself in a half-assed attempt to prevent getting crappy Maxis fug in my lot catalog (why can't I delete the damned hotels? WHY!?!). So of course there's no way to edit the hobby lots. Is there a way to replace the files with files for a built lot? I have about half an idea, but the half that's missing is the one that explains what I'm thinking.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: danicast on 2008 March 04, 08:32:50
Trashy hexbin code inside the lot. Evict the lot, is the only solution.

I did exactly this same thing in one lot, hexediting:
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,11098.0.html
Big hole, you are seeing the hood foundation.

No solution, lot is lost. It doesnīt affects the rest of the hood. 


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 March 04, 15:45:32
Danicast, I think I'm having some communication issues here.

Basically, are you saying:
1. There is no way to replace the lot with a valid lot.
2. Replacing the hex code of a secret lot with the hex code of an existing lot will work (this would be super-easy).


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Tigerlilley on 2008 March 04, 21:28:31
Ok so it turns out.. I'm not 100% on this, but I think my game spawns more than one hobby lot.

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n1/tigerlilley21/Random%20shiz/Sims%20Stuffs/glitch.jpg)

At first I thought this was just a graphical error, but now it seems like those lots are different places.  (Yes I realise thats not the Science lot but its the same for all my hobbies).

Basically, the first "Hobby" lot in the phonebook is Dons house.  The next two are the correct Science club.

My arts and crafts lot does this too.  I haven't been to Fake Backwards House Club yet for that one though.  To be honest, Fake Backwards Houses are a helleva lot more interesting than the clubs.  Whoever designs EA lots needs to be shot in the face.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: danicast on 2008 March 04, 22:09:24
Quote
1. There is no way to replace the lot with a valid lot.
Yes, there is, but you must evict that one, is corrupted.


Quote
2. Replacing the hex code of a secret lot with the hex code of an existing lot will work (this would be super-easy).
Not exactly.
This kind of weirdness is generated by some trash code, data corruption. Can be at the header of the file or at the end of the file. If you be able to safe clean the hexbin code of that particular lot replacing the header or the end of file for a clean code, is possible that you save the lot. Itīs what I was trying to make in my game. Since I always have fresh backups of everything, I donīt really needed to try to save the lot, I just evicted and replaced by an old copy. Then I edited again and everything went fine.


Title: Re: My Secret Science Club is Don Lotharios House
Post by: Zazazu on 2008 March 04, 23:00:27
When you say "evict", do you mean "delete"?

If so, that won't work for me. I have no original hobby lots, and honestly I'd rather not get those EAxis fug things. I'd like to make my own and replace the reference within the game code. It should be possible, I just have to actually download the SimPE QA and look at things. Just not tonight...had a rough day and I really can't take a code-reading headache.

Too bad there isn't a "changelotzoning hobbyfitness" code!