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I thought I was rid of the Twins Plague. My nice new MacPro hadn't done it at all. My old PowerMac was a bugger for it, bucking the odds with about one in four twin births (complained about on here previously) So what does hubby do?

Sticks 4 GB extra RAM in the bloody MacPro which then immediately starts to dump twins on me. The wretched thing has 6 GB RAM in total and is making a total nuisance of itself. Four out of four of my last births were twins.

Someone PLEASE convince me that this is coincidence.

Ah, they joys of sadorandom dice falls.

This is precisely why I have TwoJeff's triplets & quads hack - so if I am having a glut of multiple births, I can do something about it.

Nope, not a coincidence. The odds of twin birth are well known to be based on how much RAM you have. Incidentally, was your computer manufactured in a leap year? This has also been known to increase twin births in games installed on those machines, but only if they have less than 2 or more than 3 GB of RAM.

Yes but why did this only start AFTER the extra RAM was put in? The puter was fine before that. Stupid hubby installs all that RAM. Mac goes haywire.

If you look for a cause to a random event, you will always be able to manufacture one. RAM has nothing to do with it. Randomness. Get TJ's hack and edit the odds to lower the percentage of multiples, if it pisses you off to that level.

I will. Thank you. It buggered up my Chav family horribly. How can Chardonnay and Reece drag up their horrible ASBO brats if they keep spawning twins?

Are you sure you haven't been feeding your sims cheesecake?

Now come on. I'm mac-using and by definition not stupid

Hah. The macs are awfully pretty aren't they?

What this one? Not so you would notice.

Top-end macs are very boring to look at. An aluminium box. Tedious as hell
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But then the devil has the best tunes.

This raises the question of why you bought one in the first place.

PCs are too hard for you?  That can't be, because as you pointed out, all Mac users are geniuses!

Was the Ram manufactured by a company who's top executives were cross eyed? Did they build their company at a cross roads? Was it manufactured during the full moon.

By the way, all of these are also qualities that you want to look for in a lucky rabbits foot. Killed by a cross eyed man, at the cross roads, during a full moon. Have you been in contact with a lucky rabbits foot lately? Are you sure that the rabbit was killed in the approved method that I have just mentioned.

Was Satan dancing to the music of a fiddle? Was Astarot, Grand Chancellor of Hell giggling? Was Beelezebub distracted from his fly-pots?

Well, I'm afraid that you would have to tell me, seeing as you were there.

A mere glitch inflicts no damage on a Prince of Hell.

This only supports my theory that extended Mac usage lowers IQ.

I believe we just entered the Chinese year of the rat.  Might that be the cause?

That's no doubt true, as there are less problems to solve.  ;)

I use a mac, except for gaming. Ayslhyn, you are making me cringe. Please STFU.

I can't see how moar RAM would "cause" anything in the game, except to perhaps make it go "whoosh" a bit better. 

Wasn't there a conversation earlier about you and your hubby getting a PC for gaming because the Mac wasn't working well with the game?  Whatever happened to that?  Was the moar RAM installation a replacement plan?

Anyhow, to counter sadorandom twins events (when unwanted) there are hacks that will allow you to check pregnancies for "how many" and edit if you wish.  I personally use Insim for this, and know it to work (I'll take the puppy killer comments as read - I'm a cat person, OK?).

You had twins the last four times, but how many births did you have before?  If you had, say 8, which weren't, then you'd be running at 33% which is only a little more than the advertised rate.  Any sample with less than 20 births really isn't enough to complain anyway.

You're suffering under the illusion that random means uniform.  It so doesn't.  Clustering is actually a characteristic of true randomness.

Agreed. Ayshat, you are misrepresenting Mac users.

Remember: Random events segregate nonrandomly!

Yesterday, I tossed a coin four times and got heads each time. I blame the last lunar eclipse.

Well, at least with all that RAM, you don't have to worry about lot lag with all those babies crawling around.

I had this happen once back when university came out. 10 out of 10 births in my neighborhood were twins. I stopped believing it was random around twin birth 5 but kept breeding sims because the chaos was amusing.

It turns out that the problem was related to a sim that died when she was pregnant. I resurrected her on a whim, she gave birth to twins and then the twins stopped. I think the game got stuck in twin mode when she died.

Have you had any sims die recently while they were pregnant (maybe not showing yet?) I thought the bug might have been related to that random pregnancy death bug that they fixed a while ago, but maybe it wasn't.

Pssst. It's not a bug, it's the game stupid number generator constantly throwing twins instead of single births. The only things in game that causes twins is cheesecake and the supposed twin token.

If the odds for twins are 1 in 10, then 10 twins in a row would be about 1 in 10 billion? (Apologies if this is English major math.) Or are you saying that because the random number generator is messed up that the odds for twins sometimes get stuck at closer to 100%?

This happened to me before the cheesecake thing. Because the death was a result of bug and it happened close to the conception of twins, it seemed likely that this caused the twins randomizer to get stuck somehow.

It's not caused by a bug. The game uses a sadorandom number generator. As is the case ith sadorandom, sometimes you get streaks of the same number. This stuff is explained in the War Room. USUALLY the only bug that pops up because of sim death while pregnant happens when you resurrect said sim and they are forever stuck as pregnant. At least, I have never heard of a sim death affecting other sim's pregnancies. Unless you are looking for an excuse for the sadorandom generator spewing out twin births. It just happens. I promise.

I have, with TJ's mod, quad odds set to either 2% or 1%. A couple of months ago, I had a streak of three quad births in a row. Lately, my results have been what I'd expect...in the last, say, fourteen births I've had twins once with no triplets or quads. This is good, since I'm trying to keep Prospect Beach small for the foreseeable future. Fourth gen had only three spawn, at one point all under the same roof but about to split.

It's kitten killer, not puppy killer. Only in the world of a Mac user does Moar RAM = Moar Twins. Use TJ's mod as stated, and just set quads and trips to 1 percent. This continues to show Ayshlyn's lack of intelligence.

If MOAR ram meant more twins I'd stick with my measly 512.  I have enough twins thanx.  BTW, silliest thing I ever heard.

Kitten killer = InTeen.

Puppy killer = InSim.

They are not the same.

Thank you.

@ Snake - sometimes other people actually know what they (we) are talking about.  LURK MOAR!

You're just as stupid as Ayshat if you think she somehow magically represents all Mac users.

My point proven, unless of course you were trying to call her an asshat or something? Also maybe I misread it?

Yes, well done there, editing your post after your brain manages to click.

You don't look like a moron at all now...

Fine so I made a mistake.

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Dear me. Such nastiness. I'm not claiming it is the direct fault of the mac. I was just asking.

Surely a more powerful machine might generate random events more often?, A pair of processors with lots of memory? Surely this is plausible cause of randomised events happening more frequently?

I hope that was irony.
If not I better go play some on-line poker with my 4GB RAM, since that will give me more straight flushes.

This thing has 6GB RAM. Surely more memory shifts the odds somewhat?

 ::) Yeah. Add another couple of gigabytes, and go find some online lottery.

Ayslhyn, you say moronic things, get snarked at, bitch about it in other threads , get snarked at again, repeatedly, and then keep coming back for more?!

All I have to say is, wow.

No.  More RAM will help make sure your computer runs the game at all, and will reduce lag.  It will not do anything to change the way the game calculates odds.  My 1Gig will do it in the same way as your 6Gig, maybe just not as fast.  :P

No, you were claiming it was the direct fault of thehusband.  It never pays to touch a woman's computer. 

Yes, like my mother's retarded, wannabe boyfriend, who gave my computer an "upgrade" when I was 11 that destroyed the thing. The computer I had built with my dad, mind you.

No, it never pays to touch a woman's computer, because more often than not you're just an ass who knows bullshit and will only FUCK EVERYTHING UP.

You really aren't grasping what "random" means, I think.

This makes about as much sense as thinking that spraypainting your computer red and giving it "go fast" detail stickers will improve your bandwidth speeds.

Now that's just silly.  Everyone knows you need a skull grate over the PSU fan and lots and lots of LEDs to do that.  Blue ones are OK, but the red ones are fastest.

I think the general consensus is no.
However, I have always had an annoying proportion of twins in my game. I now believe it must be due to the shiny Apple sticker I slapped onto the side of my beat up 'ol Dell. Coincidence? I think not!

Or how computers work...

No. Random events do not happen more often because your computer is more powerful. They happen disportionately often because your computer hates you. Your computer hates you because ALL computers hate you. That's all there is to it. Have you ever pissed off the DM, then had bad things mysteriously keep happening to your character? Same idea.

All RAM does is shake the Yahtzee cup faster, it doesn't increase the chances that you'll roll a Yahtzee.  You still get one roll for twins.

I really think explanations are a lost cause, at this point.

I run a PC, and I've had this happen.  Sometimes, it seems that every birth I have in the neighborhood is a boy.  Then, for a little while, all girls.  Then, a run of twins.  I don't think that it's because my PC hates me, or that it has too much RAM, or that I'm feeding my sims too much cheesecake.  I think that the game gets stuck on a certain type of birth, and it can be very difficult to break the streak.  One time, tired of having girl after girl, I saved my game right before the mom gave birth, and kept exiting to the neighborhood screen without saving.  After about the 6th or 7th little girl, I gave up.  Sometimes running the Lot Debugger before the birth will help.  It does keep the siblings from being identical.  Before the Lot Debugger, I'd have a whole bunch of Simmy-kids in the family with the same genetics and personalities.  Now, siblings are more realistic.  But, it doesn't always help break the "same birth cycle".