More Awesome Than You!

This is what JM's message on VS now says where the link to this site used to be in the Links forum.  What the heck does that mean?  Is this something Rentech did?  I remember seeing the correct URL there before, and there isn't an Edit date on the post.  The other posts in the thread are still there as if nothing was amiss.  Of course Rentech shut the thread down because someone asked a question and she said this forum wasn't for "support questions."

Well, luckily there are other sites that do give a link!  I know which forum I'd go to for technical help, and it doesn't begin with V!

My Guess would be that she doesnt want any of the membership of varioussimmers to find MATY which is an exercise in futility as a quick search of MTS2 will give you a link to here.when nightlife first came out Daysies I believe posted a link to here regarding hacks that work and hacks she wasnt sure about from El Presidente .  again just being a wall flower at varioussimmers myself I can only guess at the motives behind that

Well, some of us believe in freedom, and some of us don't! ;D

Damned if I know. This is obviously some cheap attempt to vilify me by claiming that *I*, the linked site, somehow am "blocking" something. Nevermind that this in no way enables me to actually affect anything on Rentech.com, beyond maybe blowing it up in a big fiery ball visible from space, and that Rentech has cleverly modified the post without an edited-by, no doubt to insert some pointless comment about buttocks at some point.

Still, it amuses me that Rentech hates me so. Maybe something really is wrong with her buttocks?

That's what I found interesting.  It makes it sound like YOU are blocking the link to your own site!  That is absurd.
Maybe so, since she has an obsession with buttocks.  Then she claims it is impossible for her to directly edit posts without there being an edited-by notice.  Obviously she lied.

I've noted this in other threads here, but she's done this on a site wide level. Even in private messages. Try and send yourself a PM with http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com in it and it will come back like that. I have an old PM sitting in my box where someone was telling me about this place that has that junk in it instead of the proper link. I don't think she edited any individual posts, I think she did something so that the entire site blocks any mention of the domain name here retroactively on all messages both public and private.

I have to admit, while I've been on other sites that prohibited posting of links to certain places (TSR immediately comes to mind  ::) ) I've never until now seen some place that even does this to your private messages. That's a level of big brother-ness that just disturbs me.

Wow, we're really awesome now. We're the Site That Shall Not Be Named. yay us!

LOL.  Did you get that from Harry Potter and He Who Must Not Be Named (Lord Voldemort)?

I just saw the same thing on Dizzy2's forum in the thread for his random chance card hack.  He referred to what I assume was JM's thread here about how chance cards work.  It was replaced by the link above with a topic number after it.  It is underlined like a link, and I have an extension in Firefox that displays a small icon next to links to show what kind they are.  This one shows that it will open in a new window, but clicking on it doesn't do anything of course.  I think it's just childish.  This community is supposed to be about sharing information and helping each other.  Blocking links from people is just childish and only hurts the users, not the person against whom you have a personal vendetta.  You're right, it does feel like Big Brother is looking over your shoulder over there when you can't even type what you want in a PM.

No, I have no idea what this Harry Potter is. I thought He Who Must Not Be Named was Hastur, the Elder God?

 ::)

Try looking it up on Google, I'm sure something will pop up.  About this Hastur, never heard of him.  Looking in the online encyclopedia, it says he may be the High Priest Not to Be Described.

 ::)

Anything is possible with the right board software and mods to go with it.  I don't have a dog in this fight (being blissfully late to the drama), but as a long time messsage boarder (and power admin), I'll just say that I'm uber picky about where I hang out.  The success of a board is dependent on the morality of the admin behind the controls.

Helped run a little board with tight membership and heavy google traffic.  Transparent to the membership (meaning we made sure they knew about it), we set up all links to go through our affiliate programs. If you linked to Amazon in a post, the board software automatically converted the amazon link to include the affiliate ID. 

The notion that an admin can't mod a post without an "edited by" is bull hockey.  You don't do it because it violates message board ethics, but decent board software and a billion available mods let you physically do anything you want to.

This is one of the best boards I've ever hung on, because nobody gets in your shit. 

[quote author=windy_moon link=topic=1093.I hang out.  The success of a board is dependent on the morality of the admin behind the controls.

Helped run a little board with tight membership and heavy google traffic.  Transparent to the membership (meaning we made sure they knew about it), we set up all links to go through our affiliate programs. If you linked to Amazon in a post, the board software automatically converted the amazon link to include the affiliate ID. 

The notion that an admin can't mod a post without an "edited by" is bull hockey.  You don't do it because it violates message board ethics, but decent board software and a billion available mods let you physically do anything you want to.

This is one of the best boards I've ever hung on, because nobody gets in your shit. 
[/quote]I dont have a dog in this fight either but I have moderated on other boards and had my own message board before. and  a Mod can edit posts with out the edited  by.... your right about that. during the Scott Peterson trial.a friend and I started a private message board  ie  seperate from AOL's. and we had traffic through there constantly  and links galore. I can only remember one time we ever stopped a link and it happened after a member complained that the link was to a porno site after checking the complaint we dicovered the link was indeed a link to a porno site. we blocked the link pronto. as far as PM's were concerned we  never ever interfered with the content of those or even looked at the content it's not ethical , whatever people were pm'ing each other about was their business. I agree this is a great board people here let you say what you want :)

When you say buttocks do you really mean server? Or is Inge the only one who makes that mistake?

Look here (http://www.hplovecraft.com/creation/bestiary.htm). Hastur has quite a list of famed fantasy writers who mention him (but they never mentioned Trogdor...)

And Dog, there are two things to be consostently expected from VS: deception masquerading as protestations of honesty, and messed-up butt... er, servers.

I ask again, isn't she supposed to be an adult? Honestly! ::)

S' easy. I'm running the same forum software as Rennie is, and I banned the words "the" and "and" using the censor settings a few weeks ago. It affects every instance of your censored word, past and present, both on the main forum and via PM. You can even substitute your chosen censored word with another, more suitable word of your choice, perhaps like, ooh I dunno... maybe substitute "http://link blocked by linked site/" for every instance of "http://moreawesomethanyou.com/".

Additionally, it's perfectly possible to not add the "edited by" line. There's a checkbox to tick when you edit a post. I mean, duh.


I have to say, I didn't really mind Rennie in times past. I remember the squabble over that avatar of two sims making out or some such nonsense, and I agreed with Rennie at the time that it's up to the admins what's acceptable for posting on their website and what isn't. It all seemed very reasonable at the time. Now, though, it's just become bizarre beyond words. Really goddamn weird.

one would think so but in my honest opinion this behavior indicates a  person who still has childish Vendetta's going :o I would think any person with an ounce of sense  would realize that such childish behavior in the end only hurts themselves. case in point VS has 632 registered members MATY has close to 1500.  I went over there yesterday to get a specific item of Carrignon's and the blurb at the bottom said only 6 members were actively perusing the site and 150 guests. came back over here  the who's active in the last 15 minutes was showing three lines of member names and  200 guests

Also Jm's Old profile has the same thing on it http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/member.php?userid=3 (http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/member.php?userid=3)

It is very sad.

I suppose some one over there is getting an ulcer with all that hatred :(

According to Rentechd:


Make of it as you will. I don't care about petty politics either way.

That makes no sense and it gives me a headache just reading it and trying to figure it out.

That makes no sense and it gives me a headache just reading it and trying to figure it out.
[/quote]I agree with you rainbow  makes no sense to me either and I just shake my head and say whatever

Well the actual statement makes sense inasmuch as I can understand what she's saying (for once).  However I still find the posture unreasonable because she does not have to make herself responsible for ensuring no one gets confused.  She can let her users explain it to each other - those who post a link can answer any questions they might be asked about it how they see best.   For instance if Dizzy2 posts a link to MATY on his forums, then it is *supposed* to be up to him to support questions about it, not her.   She explains quite clearly that apart from some site-wide obscenity rules (which don't have to be obeyed by the admins or mods) anything else is entirely up to the owners of the different sections.

Also I smell a rat in the timing.  Pescado's had that joke and whatever link-posting policy he's got for months.  Funny the reaction is just happening at VS now.

I know I have had no problem when clicking links to here from Mod the Siims 2. I land at MATY when I click the links there. so the whole thing makes very little sense to me in its timing.Pescado has been gone from VS for nearly 3 months why the issue now?

After the avatar fiasco, when Rentech says "swamped with PM's" she probably means two.  And from what she's written, neither was by JM himself.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm happy that the less awesome posters at VS are directed to the IQ test on the front page.  But I wouldn't complain about it to Rentech either way.

Poor Rennie, she's in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.  The only way she can appear reasonably innocent is to do nothing at all.  Which is what she probably should have done in this case, and in the case of the evil ADULT avatar in question (taken from an in-game shot of someone making out on the sofa).

Hook

That many huh ? wow talk about swamped 2 is  2  to many ROFL ;D

I am prepared to stick my neck out here and say the real reason is probably that the VS owners do not wish to make it easy for their readers to hop over here and read what's being said about them.

you are no doubt right

Pretending for a moment that I believe what she said is true (which I don't) how does it make any sense to block the links in PMs too? Or do Pescado and his fans somehow psychically know when someone at VS uses such a link in their private messages and then bombard Rennie with complaints about it?  ::)

Good god.  Save the drama for your mama.

Honestly, I've never seen such weirdness on a website (well, except when I went looking for it).  I started out on Mod the Sims 2, then Various Simmers, then ended up here - I guess I'm an honest to god JM fanboi, since I'll follow him wherever he goes.  I still go to the other two sites, naturally - they all have worthwhile things on them, and when I'm looking for something, I'll go to wherever has it.

The sheer amount of drama coming from VS and it's staff, though, just makes me feel like I ended up in Bizarro World.  I personally take the "WHATEVAH!" approach, but I guess after seeing all the crap that goes on between sim communities, I felt the need to post (thus blowing away any claims to neutrality that I might have once had).  Reading posts from those people always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Or a "what the fuck" taste, which is similar, but with a hint of nutmeg.

I've been following the drama since the CEP thread began (hell, I guess since I've been a member at VS, the drama has been going on long before that. Remember the Fuck  MTS2 thread? Motoki? lol. That looks like Romper Room compared with the CEP thread). Anyone else notice Rentechd's posts getting less and less coherent? Like her hands are positioned on the wrong keys on the keyboard? I'm picturing frothing at the mouth, wild hair...it lends a very freaky vibe to the whole fiasco.
I hope TJ escapes, soon. He's much too respectable to be associated with that site.

The internet has always been a breeding ground for drama, no matter what community or fandom you're in.

This was all a part of Al Gore's plan when he first created the internet!   ;D

While you may be right, I'm prepared to give Rennie the benefit of the doubt in this case.  As for some of the others... well, I've had dealings with a few in chat and I know what they can be like.

Rennie caved in with only a few messages about the avatar, and at the time neither JM nor myself saw anything wrong with it, as we discussed it in chat.  It wouldn't surprise me if some of the more zealous members of MATY have messaged her about sending idiots here. 

After reading the CEP thread it's obvious that some of 'em need to be staked out on a short leash and fed raw meat with a slingshot.  It may be that Ren's simply letting too many people push her around.  Perhaps she needs a bit more weight in her buttocks fundament.

Someone else mentioned using the same forum software that rentech does, and that it's easy to change all instances of a particular string to something else, which affects PM's as well as forum postings.  If there's no way to exclude PM's from the global change, then she's simply taken the easy way out.

Hook

I know what you mean about about the latter.  I was chastised by a couple of other members for posting a link to this site over there when someone asked for one of JM's mods right after he left.

tinyURL?

changes the text in the link...

Of course anyone in authority on a site can block words, sentences, kinks etc.  Try using these espressions on a Yahoo group:

Fleet Street hack

The explorers hacked their way through the undergrowth.

The gentleman wore grey breeches and a tweed hacking jacket.

ie the word "hack" and it's derivatives is banned!

strange  ???

That she needed to block the URL site-wide because she was worried about people being confused by Pescado's front page? Well given that they think the CEP can destroy users' boot sector, maybe you're right.

If I read that correctly... I believe she's saying JM would be mad if she *failed* to confuse users at JMs front page and instead let folks direct link in here. A link to the main site does still work there (or did yesterday), just not a specific page link.

Yes, JMP, you are truly the Lord Voldemort of the Sims Community!!   :D

And so are born the words hax0r, h4x0r, |-|/-\}{()|3 (I can't remember how to make an obnoxious R), etc.

oh yeah, that reminds me...

Haster, Haster, Haster

so there

<gulp>

I'll be back when the Great C'thulhu is finished teaching me a lesson...

that could be  and I hope you're right . but it does appear on the surface at least that there is a petty one sided vendetta going on

I'll probably get my lips ripped off for this, but sometimes you have to take what Pescado says tongue-in-cheek. She's taking an off handed remark he made to extremes for her own vindictive purposes and then trying to manipulate it around so that she is merely doing what he asked. I suppose next she will start setting people on fire because Pescado always talks about burninating people.  ::)

Besides, you can type moreawesomethanyou in google and get several direct links that bypass the front page in a half a second so the whole think is rather pointless.

Yes, the twit even has it blocked when you link to the faux front page. 

Did I mention that rentechd is a great flaming twit?  I don't know which is worse, her or carrigon.  Maybe it's a tie, its pretty close but I'm not sure yet.  :P

I was at VS awhile ago and someone was looking for a mod that JM did I tried to put a link to this site and everytime I tried to click on the link to see if it worked it came up this page could not be displayed so she has some how blocked anyone tring to link to this site in the post. I then wrote that you can find the mod u are looking for at more awsome than you without the link .

That she thought she was doing what people on this site wanted:  sending all users to the front page instead of allowing links to the forum and specific posts.

We can only pray that the front page is sufficiently confusing to keep the least awesome of the visitors out.

Hook

I went to VS and sent myself a PM with the link to Pescado's front page.  When I read the PM, it substituted "Link Blocked By Linked Site."  So even trying to link to the front page doesn't work.  (Other folks may have already said this, but your comment seemed to say to me, Hook, that you didn't understand this is what they were saying ..... if that's what they said .. which they may not have.   Sorry, after work drinks are kicking in  :D )

Phyllis

[/quote]

I went to VS and sent myself a PM with the link to Pescado's front page.  When I read the PM, it substituted "Link Blocked By Linked Site."  So even trying to link to the front page doesn't work.  (Other folks may have already said this, but your comment seemed to say to me, Hook, that you didn't understand this is what they were saying ..... if that's what they said .. which they may not have.   Sorry, after work drinks are kicking in  :D )

Phyllis
[/quote]sounds to me like for whatever reason Rentech does not want varioussimmers members to be able to link to MATY . but thats just my opinion

Sorry, I thought I'd read here that the links worked, but only went to the front page.  If they're blocking even that much, then this whole thing *does* have more to do with buttocks than servers. :)

Maybe someone over there will eventually pull their head out of their server and get it right.

Hook

I hope so because in the end the ones hurt the most by this pettiness is the simming community that may need one of Pescado's fixes for their game alot of newcomers to simming dont always know when a modder has left a site and how to find the new site. case in point my daughter is new to Sims 2 and needed the no whats this mod I told her about eons ago so she went to various simmers not knowing JM had left there and wasnt able to link to here . so she called me and asked if I knew how to get  to MATY  and I sent her the link from the front page here in an email . she is thrilled  now her sim isnt running up 3 stories to ooh and ahh over a new toilet she put in the house

Check out this thread:  http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?threadid=2807

Rentech is on a roll.  You did know that updating your video drivers will solve most if not all your problems?  Also, leaving "boolprop" commands on all the time causes problems and "even modders turn this off when they don't need it."   :o

I have a low-end video card, and while my game lags sometimes, I don't think this causes things to drop out of queue because I've heard others talk about this.  This is a game design issue.  And leaving the game in debug mode has helped me far more than it has harmed me.  It has let me know about problems that I wouldn't have known about otherwise.  I believe JM said it doesn't hurt anything.  And where does she get her information about leaving it running adds "overhead" to the game?  I've never heard anyone, JM, TJ, or the like, mention anything like this.  Is there any merit to this statement?

Seeing as how this was posted in TwoJeffs' section, I was waiting to see what he would have to say about it, but Rennie jumped in first and posted a looooooong response that I am not even sure is all that accurate.  My eyes started glazing over by the time I got to the end.

Thanks, I've fixed it.

/me summons the power of Google

http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=2004

Wow, it works!  Google is more awesome than me!

The first part sounds like her hanging out with the people at Maxis has rubbed off on her, while the second part sounds like she's been hanging out at the BBS too much.

I love how Pam makes this royal decree proclaimations about total bullshit as if they are fact. Did you also know in the world according to Rentech polygon counts do not matter at all and you can make custom meshes with a bazillion polygons and never experience any slowdown or problems whatsoever?

Or you could simply use http://tinyurl.com/9b4er.

[ Did you also know in the world according to Rentech polygon counts do not matter at all and you can make custom meshes with a bazillion polygons and never experience any slowdown or problems whatsoever?
[/quote]Im not a creator but I do know I recently had a field day in my downloads folder clearing out CC Inever used and the odd thing about that was most of it had very high polygon counts. after spring cleaning my downloads folder . I discovered my game lost its sluggishness. so as a user of CC I know for a fact the Polygon count in a mesh makes a big difference especially if your DL folder is huge like mine is I cleared over 100 mb of downloads out of there and its still sitting at 746 mb however prior to going in there and getting rid of  what amounted to clutter it was 1.2gb in size

I don't even think I've ever seen a shoooooooooort response from her.

I was a Journalism major in college (one of a bajillion majors I tried out, journalism being the first) and our textbook for JM101 (not making the name up, it really was called JM101, as in Journalism Major, I guess???) was a Strunk and White book that, dork that I am, I'd already read long before going to college. Anyway, we were taught to live/write by this rule: "Omit needless words. Vigorous writing is concise." That's something I failed to do in this post, and Rennie has failed to do in every single post she's made. The consequence would be, of course, the glazing over of the readers' eyes. Any point possibly worth making is lost in the babblage.

Also, you gotta love this:

As if packaging your families up and unpacking them into a "clean" neighborhood would HELP with overpopulation issues.  Oh, the irony.

And as if jumps caused by overpopulation were not, in fact, jump BUGS, but... something else.  Something non-buggy.  Y'know, like a problem in the code that crops up in certain situations which are pretty much guaranteed with the designed gameplay.  Except that's a bug.

Rennie cannot post a short answer to save her life. Even a simple question that asks for a yes or no answer will be followed up by a War and Peace tirade.

Is she telling people to pack up sims and move them to new neighborhoods to fix overpopulated neighborhoods? Again, she sounds like Maxis. They used to tell people to do that to fix the jump bug.  ::) In fact, it's the worst thing you can do and will make your overpopulation 10x worse! When you pack up lots with sims not only does it pack up those sims, but it packs up character files for every sim eveyone in the family has ever met. That may not sound so bad except that when you move another house, that house will also pack up separate character files for everyone that family has ever met. If you move 8 houses and all 8 families knew John, Jane and Bobby, you will now have 8 separate duplicate character files each for John, Jane and  Bobby. Considering most families have met far more than 3 sims, you can easily imagine you'd end up with a huge, huge mess!

I did this very early on moving people between neighborhoods before any of us knew these consequences and all I can say is don't do it! If you must bring someone over, use SimPE to export their looks to a package file and then recreate a clone in the CAS and use testingcheats to set whatever stats and job ad such they were at in the old neighborhood. This is a much cleaner way to do it.

Oh yes, that is priceless.  I must have missed that because my eyes were already glazed over.   :D

I agree early on I also did that  to some sims I moved families with house to a new neighborhood as a result my sims acted in crazy ways towards family members because they no longer saw Jane or Bobby as family. one issut that comes to mind I encountered was Herb Oldie Suddenly wanted to flirt with Mary Sue Pleasant his adopted daughter  since he no longer recognized the family tie because of my errant moves I made. I now have Justin in my game as a clone of course from Brynne sending him to me. I set his aspiration as the same as he is in her game  and I used sim pe to bring his stat ie College etc to the rough equivalent of where its supposed to be and used a hacked buyable collection to supply the diploma. it says Justin Graduated Magna cum laude  with a degree in mathematics. the result no curruption in the file and no odd behavior

That's because I only sent the bodyshop clone of Justin. But good to see you're taking care of him! He was a poly-sci major in my game and is now a hall of famer. Of course.

I also made the mistake of adding all the extra character files to my neighborhood early on. One of my sims (Joe's first wife, Jennie) mysteriously disappeared from my game. She was referred to as "Subject" in all my sims' memories. Not knowing any better, I took a backup neighborhood that still had her file intact and packaged her up on an empty lot. Put the current neighborhood back in, and thought things would proceed normally. I had copies of all my sims and couldn't tell who was who. Jenny's kids were suddently flirting with each other. Joe and Jennie were suddenly not married. It was a disaster. Obviously, I didn't keep that copy of the neighborhood. I cloned Jennie and redid all family ties, myself, which was a pain in the ass.

Justin is a coach in My game he has fallen in love with Heidibut has a fear of getting engaged to her.he has a crush on Chris and I am almost ready to send him on another date to try and satisfy his woohoo want with 5 women

Sounds like things are moving right along for your Justin, then! Mine is still debating whether to marry Jennifer Burb or not. And he's raising his five kids without any help from his loser-ex, Sadie. His father and several other family members also live in the house, so it ain't so bad. I think there are currently 20 sims living in his house. I'm not sure, though. I just moved in two more of his brothers  :P

edited to remove a zillion commas.

My Justin's ex is in Major Aspiration Failure I had Justin Summon her using the teleporter and she sat on his floor  playing with her lips and then she got up  and started beating on her chest like she is king kong and laughing at nothing. I am thinking about going into CAS and retrieving Justin give him a new Name and aspiration to match hers and a astrologic sign that complements her and move him into her house . maybe use SimPE to make the look alike Justin's younger brother.  and see if that helps poor Tara. I had Justin check her out and I still get a total lack of chemistry  he looks at her and goes  Eh..............the funny thing is Tara is absolutely gorgeous Brown hair,Blue eyes understated make up courtesy of Pronup sims she has a beautiful haiirstyle and nice make up  custom eyes from sugar and spikes and custom clothes

I'm guessing you don't have Merola's multi-painting or the Inseminator in your game. You can change most of what you said using those. The Inseminator will also let you change zodiac signs. That's a heated topic, here, though. Lots of people don't like the Inseminator, but I'm not having any problems with it. You can also use the re-nu-yu orb thing to change aspirations and turn-ons. Just trying to save you having to recreate him again.   

I want to leave Justin as he is . he is a romance sim who is a Taurus which suits him .my thought since I still have a clone of him in CAS was to use the clone and create his younger brother with the Family aspiration to match Justins ex wife Tara and give as yet unnamed younger brother a complemnetary zodiac sign for Tara she is aquarius

Ok, now I am confused.   :P  Rennie now says it's BAD to move sims from neighborhood to neighborhood.   ??? 

http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=2827

Yet another long, rambling post which I could barely skim through trying to find the point.  I thought the topic looked interesting, "Request: Fix for Missing Cars and Sims Bug," and I thought I might learn something useful, but got Rentech's blatherings instead. 

You know, long posts aren't so bad when there is actually a point and the poster has a grasp of spelling and grammar and syntax.  For example, if I can pick on syperspunk for a minute (don't worry, it's not bad ;)), he has admitted that he rambles a bit, but I don't mind reading his posts because they are interesting and I can follow what he says.  He usually seems to know what he is talking about.  And I feel like Rennie is preaching down at people sometimes like in this post.

I can't recall who it was.  But I once read a post on the BBS by someone who said that they moved EVERY family from the premade neighborhoods into one custom neighborhood.  And I'm pretty sure this was before Uni, when the character file limit was much smaller.

I have to wonder how quickly that neighborhood exploded...   :D

Her point in Rainbow's quote seems to be "Nightlife made people stupid." Though I can't be totally sure, as my grammar and meaning parsing android just exploded.

Well, the irony is that earlier she was telling someone to package all their families to a new neighborhood and start over.

My Justin is a Gemini. A rarity in his family, since his father and most of his siblings are all Taurus. He does have a teenaged brother, though. Actually, two. They're twins. Jeremiah and Jason. They are the two that Joe kept out of the 11 children he and Bella had not long ago, where the others were adopted by Don Lothario. Jason looks almost identical to Justin as a teen. He's also a romance sim:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Brynne14/jason.jpg)

I did that  pre uni with the base game I moved the brokes,the burbs, the pleasants and the oldies from Pleasantview to a custom hood and it was almost instantly that problems started occuring. Herb Oldie insisted he wanted to flirt with Mary Sue his daughter. Daniel no longer saw Jennifer as his sister so therefore an affair with Jennifer  was the first thing he wanted. it destroyed family ties and finally after playing this way for about a week the game got so currupted it crashed me to the desk top. after I uninstalled and reinstalled I left the families where they were and simply created new families for custom hoods  and I havent tried that boneheaded Idea since then  . almost 2 years later what ever neighborhood sim a starts in thats where sim a stays

And of course, check your hardware. That could cause the maid to appear on the downtown lots. Or whatever the hell she was saying...

I subscribe to TwoJeffs' Soapbox forum, and that's where this thread started, but Rennie moved it over to Sims 2 Discccccccusions.  The other thread was in the Soapbox too, but TJ never gets to respond to them before Rennie jumps in and adds her 0.000002 cents.  I wanted to see what he had to say.

I'll say it again: TJ, get outta there!
Kind of rude to move a thread where somebody obviously wanted TJ's opinion on the matter to the general sims2 disssscccccccccusssions section, isn't it?

my Bad I forgot to ask you what he was.  however I created  a younger Brother who is Identical to Justin except for the clothes ,birth sign and aspiration. I named him Joshua Danforth he is a Cancer and is Family aspiration. I moved Tara in with him and there is  chemistry  2 bolts right now where there were none between Justin and Tara. I went into Sim Pe  and Linked Joshua and Justin as brothers. Tara has come out of aspiration Failure now and Joshua has a crush on Tara  and the feeling is mutual.Justin saw Tara and Joshua flirting and exhibited no reaction he stood in Joshua's flower bed and watched. Tara and Justin are now best friends LOL however I wish Tara would lose the want to fall in love with Justin there is no chemistry between the two Below is a thumbnail of Justin's new brother  Joshua

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So glad to see Joshua is not wearing sandals. My Justin has a brother named Josh(ua), too. It's Josh, now, but was originally Joshua. I changed it when he went to Uni so that he wouldn't be confused with his frat-brother Joshua Ruben.Those J-names are catchy, aren't they? In real life, my husband's family uses J names. Family tradition that I passed along to my Sims.

nope no sandals on Justin or Joshua and yep the J names are catchy. Justin is wearing the outfit he arrived in  the only things I may have changed on Justin is undies,sweatsuit,swim wear and formal wear and pajamas he wear a coast guard academy sweatsuit that is blue in my game ,form fitting black undies.a  suit from Pronup sims and form fitting black polo swim trunks and tan pajama bottoms that arent high waters.Joshua wears form fitting white undies, a red coast guard sweat suit ,maroon suit from pronup sims and blue plaid pajama bottoms all CC for Justin,Joshua and Tara

I'm not sure how packaging sims in bodyshop works, as far as that's concerned. I'm guessing the formalwear and PJ's aren't included in the packaging? Justin doesn't do the highwaters thing, either  :P And he goes shirtless any chance he gets.

No, just the clothes they are wearing.  I thought it did everything once when I made a sim in Bodyshop to go into the game, but the last thing he was wearing was what he went with, which happened to be his athletic gear.  It gave me some message about it.  Everything else I had carefully chosen for him was lost. :(

And at the risk of sounding stupid, what are highwaters?  :-[

High waters are pants or in this case pajama's that end well above the ankle. Maxis pajama's are  highwaters they end on the lowest portion of the calf. their called that because it looks like  you are expecting a flood the moment you step out of bed or out the door

We used to call them "flood-waiters", too, when I was a kid.

Another word for capris ;)

Not in this case capris are meant to hit mid to low calf .hihwaters or floodwaters refers to pants that are supposed to hit the ankles such as pajama bottoms

no, no, that's another word for knickers ;)

I'm kidding - actually I find any kind of pants that hit anywhere below the knee and above the ankle extremely amusing. We, btw, used to call "highwaters" clam diggers.

lots of different names for the same thing :P

I haven't actually played with him yet, but my Justin is a Libra, and a Romance sim. I never thought to ask what his original sign was. Ah well. I gave him a different custom hairstyle I liked better then what he had but other then that he's pretty much the same.

I think my mom and my aunts called them pedal pushers.  ::)

You...you...changed him? His beeyootiful hair? I spent minutes recoloring that!

 :D

Well I made him a Romance sim against my inclination as I don't *like* romance sims, so you don't complain. Besides the hair is *nice*

Andygal, didn't you read Brynne's copyright notice?  You are not to make changes to Justin Bayfield-Goth (R) in any way, either by Bodyshop or CAS or SimPE or ANYTHING.  He is for your own personal use and is not to be sold, rented, uploaded to the Exchange, or given to anyone else without the sole permision of the owner, Brynne. 

;D

I *did* send you a copy of that notice, right?

you forgot mine in your haste to send the cow to me ;D so Justin ended up being a taurus and a Romance sim with a degree in Mathematics .however his younger brother created from the clone of Justin has a degree in Political science and is a cancer . he married his older brother Justin's exwife Tara so Justin the Hotties DNA will continue as Tara is pregnantby Joshua. now if she would just quit rolling  up wants for Justin. her last wants were play with Joshua,Flirt with Justin,Kiss Justin,give a back rub to Joshua ,Have a baby,ne friends with Aurora Landchild  a sim she caught Justin cheating with which led to the divorce.

..well, as long as you didn't change the hair.

nope he has the same hair and everyday out fit

I don't even remember which outfit I sent him in. I've changed his clothes a few times since packaging him.  Black shirt and jeans?
I do know now that I don't need to waste time picking out formalwear and swimwear, etc since they don't get packaged along.

yep black shirt and jeans

My legacy heir is named Jaden. :)

I have a Jaiden in my game! She's dating...er...Corbett. So I dropped the ball on that one. Running out of J-names! Time to run to the bbs and ask for more names!

Try this site:

http://www.thenamemachine.com/

Great now I wont be stuck for names

Try this one:  http://www.babynames.com

I recommend http://www.behindthename.com over baby naming sites, as it gives a much more accurate entymology of names and tends to have a better search interface.  It also lacks annoying animated gifs. ;D

I know soon enough I will have a baby in my game to name from Justin's brother Joshua. I was planning tto  stick with a  J name with the baby. Jasmine if its a girl  and Jonathon if its a boy. fortunately in My game there are only three sims with J names Justine Aming,Justin and Joshua. how ever that is about to chane as I am about to recreate Justin's Parents Joe and Bella  if I can Joe should be easy using the clone of Justin .Bella will be a bit harder as her DNA is all in Pleasant view so I wll have to fgure out how to import it to a new sim any one here no how to import DNA only from a sim in another neighborhood?I dont want The real Bella just her DNA. and Brynne are Justins Parents elders yet?

Has anyone else noticed that the link in this thread (http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=1820) has changed from http://Link Blocked By Linked Site/ (http://Link Blocked By Linked Site/) to:


Seen as J. M. isn't allowed to access any page on Rentech.net, who complained?

ha. I cant find my name in any of the generators. Man my mom musta had some good shit that day.

*tsk*  Is this juvenile, or what?  I guess she's changed it to read that now.  I went to VS and sent myself a PM (subject line: test) containing http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/, and here's what I got when I received it: 

test
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http://Blocked on the request of J. M. Pescado after complaints that his site members did not use correct linkage - use Google/

Very interesting.  What made her decide to change it since I first started this thread a few days ago?  Is she reading this site or did someone say something to her about why it was being blocked?

No, I don't think Joe and Bella will ever be elders in my game. Joe's been an adult in Sims2 for well over a year, in real -time. He's my original sim, and I'm too attached to let him get all stooped over. Joe and his brother Gary were also my main sims in sims1, as well as the Gamecube version, even though they kept hopping into bed together, due to lack of any recognized family ties  :P. I think I'll probably keep breeding him lol.

great because I cloned Bella for the DNA and imported her DNA in body shop  to my game and I am going to make Justin's Parents and use sim PE to link them to Justin  and Joshua. I plan on using the clone of Justin to make Joe having no clue what he looks like are Joe and Bella separared and Divorced now?

No, they were never married. They are bed-buddies. ;D
I'm getting Joe, as well as another of his sons, Josh (by Brandi Broke) ready to send off to a few people. I can add you to the list, if you'd like to have some real Joe DNA...

yes please do send them to me and if you ever do package up Justins kids add me to that list as well. Like I said  Bella Goth I was able to clone for her DNA  and she  is in Cas ready to be put into the game and linked to Justin and Joshua via Sim PE. its hard to recreate a family without having the real DNA although they are the Danforth Family in my Game and I accidently made Justin a taurus. oh well at least the story line of his divorce due to lack of chemistry is correct. however his cloned  brother Joshua got a different  birth sign  because of poor Tara's severe aspiration failure over the divorce. can I change the name of Josh to Jeremiah? when you send him? and who does Josh live with Joe or Bella or at Uni?  and what major did he take

How do you set the honors for their diploma?  I made the changes on his Uni tab in SimPE, and he has a 4.0 GPA, but I didn't see anywhere to set his type of diploma.  I gave him a memory of graduating Summa Cum Laude and deleted all the mystery sim gunk.

Funnily enough, Justin has a brother named Jeremiah, already. Also a Goth-Bayfield. Sure, name them whatever you want. It's your story, I'm just kidding about being so anal!
Josh lives with Justin on the house of fallen trees lot. He was one of the first batch of sims I ever sent to Uni last spring. Drama major, now a Hall of Famer (yes, another one!) and a Taurus.

Very boring info for anyone else reading this, I apologize :)

actually I am borrowing some of your story line to create a story with in a story . see Justin and His brother Joshua Live in my Prosperity challenge neighbor hood Golden Falls Valley which is why I had to clone Bella to get her DNA. so Im running the Danforth  Family Story from my Prosperity neighborhood .which is how my Geeky Sim Finch Loveall ended up at Joshua and Tara's wedding . Finch is a prosperity challenge sim and has  5 daughters 2 of which are at Uni. now oddly enough Finch's oldest daughter Faith turned out gorgeous when she transitioned from teen to young adult

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To block ones own site links on another forum would be like cutting the nose off despite the face. If u want people to come it is by the way of advertisement and word of mouth and the more people the better I think the site owner or VS did it herself.

To spite the face  :)

before nightlife was ever released someone over at mod the sims 2 made a buyable aspiration/rewards collection in two parts one contains the routine aspiration points rewards and the other contained career rewards. after setting the college graduation  changes in Sim PE I closed it went into the game and opened my career rewards  collection and "bought a  diploma" I sent Justin to Read it and it  stated "Justin Danforth has been awarded  a degree  in Mathematics with Magna Cum Laude  honors in recognition of outstanding effort from Sim University regents" for whatever reason I couldnt Summa Cum Laude to stick in SimPE for Justin. when I did his brother Joshua and  his exwife Tara Summa cum Laude stuck and their Diplomas reflect  the Summa Cum Laude  honors. I then used two Jeffs college adjuster to add the wants slots and the extra lock

I did everything else you said, but where in SimPE are you trying to set the Summa Cum Laude?  I don't see anything that says that in SimPE (other than in Memories.)

I never even thought to read the diplomas! I need to go read some diplomas, now...

you have to do it in the Uni setion on the sim description first click that then  where it says education pick a major  then go to effort  roll and click your mouse on those bars till they are filled with however much effort you think your sim  put into his college classes. then move down to  grade point average and set that if you want honors then makike it at least a 3.5  which is a b+  then go down to the semester  box and enter 8 which would be second semester  senior year. then go to the bar that says number of hours left and roll that back to 0 which means  your sim has graduated. commit the changes and then go to memories and add the went to college memories click add , graduated with honorss memory  which is cum laude,magna cum laude or summa cum laude then click add   and when your done  click commit. close sim pe a box will show up after each step asking if you want to save the changes click yes.  Sim Pe will ask you to wait while it puts the changes into the game. when its done close Sim PE completely. the next time you  play the game the memories should be there . purchase a diploma from the career rewards collection hang it on the wall send your sim to read it and it should say  so and so has been awarded this degree in???  with  insert the honors or lack of that you chose in recognition of outstanding academimic achievement from sim university

I just read Josh, Jacob, and Justin's diplomas. Awww...I'm so proud of my sim-boys!
Actually, I was worried with Justin. I sent him to Uni and he graduated, but that neighborhood got screwed up big time and I had to go back to an older backup, where Justin was still a teen. Didn't want to go through all the Uni stuff with him again, so I aged him to adult, did some editing in SimPe to give him the credit he got in the messed up hood, and got a diploma from the Uni aspiration objects collection (or whatever it's called). Just did that tonight, in fact, then clicked on the diploma I just bought him, and all's well!:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Brynne14/justindiploma.jpg) 

thats What Joshua's Diploma reads only it says Joshua Danforth. I checked sim enhancer for The baby's DNA it says That Jonathon has inherited his Uncle Justin's and His Daddy's Hair Color  and eye Color and Mommy's Skintone. so the custom hair that you gave Justin will continue as well as the eyes you gave his grandpa  or Bella's eyes Im not certain which parent Justin got his eyes from

Justin got his eyes from his dad. Bella's eyes are brown, Joe's are dark blue. Justin also inherited Joe's eye shape, jawline, and that cute little mouth  ;)   

here is Jonathon as a toddler

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What I can't understand is why JM should want to stop his members linking to the wrong page!  Heck, his MEMBERS all KNOW which page to link to!  And if she's coming over here to read comments, then she must know full well which page to link to to get in!