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But I dunno if something is borked. My sims were on Twikkii Island when I spotted this character. This is the first time I saw him in-game.

(http://hometown.aol.co.uk/Madsimaddict/uc.jpg)

Isn't he supposed to be wearing a suit and have a 'tash? :-\

No he only wears the Suit when he shows up Downtown. In Vacation Hoods he wears the locale Clothing (in Asia Kimono, in Twiki Grass Skirt .....) but he misses the Beard and his Monocle since the Patch. Many  Sheeple are complaining obout this issue at the BBS.

Ohh, I thought my game was borked too. Thanks for clarifying :D

His default look pre Patch.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Havelock/Scharlatan.jpg)

Thanks Havelock :)

Your Unsavory Charlatan is hot. Him I could see getting taken by...the original, not so much.

   Yeow, i was salivating there.  Good thing i don't have BV, or i'd be spending all of my time on vacation.  :)

I know-his bod is quite nice really. I was pleasantly surprised! :D

I do miss the originals look, it was amusing and I kept thinking of Snidely Whiplash, but the patched Charlatan needs to run around and have babies.

Have the Charlatan minus the monocle and tache.  He still slinks around trying feebly to twirl the tache, which is not there.  I do not have the patch installed, so I suspect something else has contributed to disappearing it.  It may simply be that random faces show up to make charlatans.

I have seen the charlatan with tache and monocle on holiday on Twikkii, but this was before I loaded replacement faces (not sure that makes any difference, but it is coincidental).

 :D what a weirdo.

I haven't patched, maybe I should send someone on vacation.  Actually I just sent Pes on vacation and no charlatan showed up.  I did have more locals than the last time a went.

Here is a pic of him doing the twirly with a non-existent 'tash.

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Looking at the pictures, I think I'll allow the Unsavoury Charlatan on my community lots and ban playables instead :D.

He did the exact same thing in my hood.  I'm not sure where the no-tache charlatan came from since I have seen the original one in a holiday hood, and have antiredundancy loaded.
/me mutters to himself and goes to check SimPE

Saw my Charlatan hanging around a graveyard today. He had a perfectly clean and bare babyface too... without the patch installed.

I still haven't seen one.

Can he be married? Or woohoo'd, at least?

What, exactly, is the unsavory Charlatan supposed to do? I tried to get my sims to talk to him in the test hood, but it just kept dropping out of the queue.

Unsavoury Charlatan shows up at random - in EAxis terms, this likely means seldom to never.  He can be summoned to community lots if you really want to see him.  I have had no success initiating interactions with him.  However, on at least one occasion he has initiated interaction with one of my sims.  If his greeting interaction is successful, he will swindle the sim out of some money.  Apparently, your sim can then call the police and the charlatan will be prevented from appearing on your comm lot for several sim days.  Considering his erratic appearance rates, this usually means nothing.  I am told (but have never managed to do it) that your sim can also fight the charlatan and beat the money he swindled out of him again.

He is a special NPC (like busdrivers, foodstand chefs, tourguides, etc.) and is not normally interactable.  Therefore, it is likely unadvisable to move him in, marry, etc. without risking a VBT (like you'd want some dork twirling a fake moustache in your game for the rest of your life).  Not sure about woohooable, but if you can't initiate interaction normally, probably not.  General rule of thumb is if the game does not normally allow interaction, forcing or cheating it would likely be bad.

weeeell I never patch my game becuse most of the hacks i use fix my problems lol but anyways before i put all my updated hacks in he had the facial hair now with all the hacks in (directors cut from here, inteen flavorpack samesex preg and inteen) he no longer has it LOL ahh well

day-um, he is hawt.

I have yet to see him anywhere in my game. I know I have him, cause I checked the character files in SimPE, but he has yet to show his pretty little sneaky face.

Actually, Crumpy hasn't really been around much in my game, either. She did show up a couple days ago to beat on an unsuspecting downtownie for playing on the swings, but that was the last I've seen of her in a while.

Also, is Bigfoot supposed to have a random first name? Somehow a big hairy sasquatch named "Richard Bigfoot" just doesn't seem right to me.... and my sim never got the memory of "met bigfoot" even though he got to be practically best friends with the thing. :-\

Yeah, Bigfoots have first names.

Do you have Two Jeffs Visitor Controller? Annoyying NPC's are banned by default. If you want to see Crumplebutt you need to uncheck her from the plant/books.

Your sim can keep from being swindled out of their money if they have high logic.

Apparently, according to prima at any rate, the Charlatan is supposed to be in love with Crumplebottom, he is supposed to croon to her and such when they happen to show up on the same lot.

I haven't seen Crumplebottom in my neighborhood yet. Every time my Sim visits a new community lot, I spawn the adjuster and set it to only ban professors (oh how I loathe them!!!!) but the old bat still hasn't shown up anywhere.

If you want to see Crumplebottom, go Downtown.  She's always around when I'm there.

My Sims have been to nearly every lot Downtown and there's been no sign of her yet. I thought it was odd because I used to see her all the time. I've seen the Charlatan a bunch of times but no Crumplebottom.

Yes I think so ElBarto.

I went to the asian resort and he was there complete in a kimono and freshly shaved. I didn't think to take any pictures and I was being kicked off the pc, but he seems to be everywhere now! I think once he shows, that's it. He's in the game, so to speak. I still haven't seen him downtown though.

Hmmm, first names you say....

I don't have the VC, though. I've no proof, but I think she dissappeared around the same time I installed a new game using the empty templates SaraMK provided. As soon as I replaced those with the game originals, even though it took a while and spwaned some fugly downtownies, she did eventually show up. But it's still only been a couple of times in the last three months (granted I haven't played much in that time) I'm probly just complaining for nothing because I like attention. >_>

Before I got the Charloton fix, I saw him on every vacation lot.  Since the fix, I haven't seen him a all.  Sad, cause I really liked him, all my sims are pretty much perma-plat and they need a little excitment in their lives.  I do have the visitor controller but I unchecked him.

I think the reason why he is in my game now is because I got the business perk that makes you have every sim in your phone book. Mind you, my sims went on honeymoon in the 3 Lakes Vac Des and he wasn't there at all. However, they only stayed 2 days :D

I think I'm just going to have to replace the appearance/genetics for the Charlatan.  I hate the clean shaven one, and I'm sure my game has the original hiding in there somewhere.

Charlatans should have facial hair and monocles.

How can you do that?

Not at my home compy right now.  I'll send you a link to a tutorial.  However, it won't work unless you actually HAVE a bearded charlatan.  I'll send you a clone of that as well, if I can find the one in my game.  It's a matter of changing a the genetics and then the appearance in simsurgery.

Not at my home compy right now.  I'll send you a link to a tutorial.  However, it won't work unless you actually HAVE a bearded charlatan.  I'll send you a clone of that as well, if I can find the one in my game.  It's a matter of changing a the genetics and then the appearance in simsurgery.
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Thanks ;D I don't think I have a bearded UC, I haven't seen him downtown yet.  :-\

OK, now I'm baffled.  I get NPC characters of Crumplebottom, Grim, the Psychologist, etc., but the Unsavoury Charlatan shows up only as a potatohead and does not show up in the regular character lists on SimPE.  Consequently, I am currently at a loss as to how to simsurgery him.  Anybody got any ideas?

The potato head means that he doesn't have a picture and he hasn't shown up in your game to regenerate one.  If you have the InSIMinator or some kind of teleport hack you can teleport him to a lot and the game will regenerate a portrait.

Edit (Feb 10, 2008) - Removed to avoid anyone potentially borking their game using the method I used.

I made a charlatan template sim in CAS and used him to change the appearance of the Unsavoury Charlatan using SimPE simsurgery.  Having done this, it has now been considered a bit roundabout.  It also created an extra character file.  Meh, not ideal I guess.

I think I will try this tomorrow :D

Thanks Jolrei! You've made it sound easy, I bet it isn't though...

Use Theo's Alternate Sim Surgery.

Missing Monocle and 'stache can be reapplied using Fix Flashing Blue and this unhider (http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/ffs/bv/etc/bv_monocle.zip) to make the monocle visible in the Change Appearance menu.

I have yet to see him in my game, either.  Damn, I'm dissapointed that he is unplayable. . . I think in my game, I'd let Stella get her groove back with him!  :)

Excellent - so I've come up with a more difficult way of doing something that was really very simple then?  :P

A really difficult, roundabout, and potentially game-damaging if botched way to reapply FACIAL HAIR and GLASSES, yes. I'm not even sure doing that your way would WORK!

I'm glad I didn't try that way just yet then :D Thanks for trying to fix though Jolrei :-*

All Pescados Suck.

Well, fair enough then.  As far as I can tell, it works for the one charlatan, and it only changes his appearance anyway.  But, in light of this, I'll remove the post.  Don't want anyone to potentially wreck anything.

The facial hair and glasses are the only thing he really needs added. Far as I can tell, that's the only thing not being properly copied when he's created, probably because normal Maxis sims are not generated with beards or accessories.

Having "summoned" all three Charlatans in my 'hood now, it also seems that they are not all identical - perhaps that is only to be expected.  I'll try the "fix flashing blue" method next time I get one.

I took a look in my hood, when I went in to extract some sims, and saw that my charlatan does have his monocle and mustache. I wonder what makes this so and not so for others.

My game keeps throwing errors when I go to community lots, one of them mentioned trying to spawn the unsavoury charlatan, but I have no townie regen and anti redunacy, so shouldn't not even bother?

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As I understand it, antiredundancy is only supposed to stop the charlatan spawning too many times (the endless respawns of charlatans and tourguides that came with BV).  It is not supposed to stop him spawning altogether.  With antiredundancy loaded, I seem to have 1 per holiday location (he shows up in my main hood comm lots as well sometimes).

Have your sims visit any downtown lot that has a hot tub and a bar. She will show up like a shot.

Then what is causing my errors? It's kinda annoying.

'She' who?  ???

Crumplebottom, I believe. I ended up summoning her to one of the Downtown lots because after three generations of public makeouts, woohoo, and general Sim debauchery she still hadn't made an appearance. I haven't sent another Sim out yet to see if that kickstarted her into being in everyone's business.

There seems to be some confusion.  I believe Jelenedra is concerned that her game is throwing errors when it tries to spawn the Unsavoury Charlatan, which it should do if she does not have one spawned already, even with antiredundancy loaded.

Yeah, I posted error logs, and going through all them seem to indicate that the errors I was getting on a Bluewater Community lot was the same error. Failure to spawn a pickpocket. So it's not just my Vacation hoods that's getting the error.

Well, I'm crap at reading error logs, but are you sure it's not some outdated hack that accidentally got left in when you upgraded to BV?  Old versions of the visitor controller were known to cause all sorts of problems in BV, for example.

Simsurgery isn't especially dangerous, but in this case there's no point to messing around with the genetics. I mean, why?

I'm sure. I went from a completely reformated hard drive to BV, remember? No old downloads to clutter things up. But when I get home, I'll run a Clean Installer scan.

If you have the Visitor Controller installed, I'm fairly sure that it blocks Crumplebottom by default.

I think TJ changed that with the latest version, so that no NPCs are automatically banned -- you have to ban them yourself.

I didn't know he had a latest version...I really need to check out his stuff more often :D

As an aside, 3 charlatans is the redundancy imported by installing all 3 of the neighborhood templates. You sholuld probably just delete them down to 1.