More Awesome Than You!

What can go wrong, if it is an EAxis project, probably will.

Place your bets / predictions for:

1. Stuff that will be borked anew.
Piano again, anyone? Fishtank-obsessed maids? Squalling sproggen?

2. Stuff that works OK now, but will go haywire after new EP.

3. Conflicts with previous EPs that will occur due to crap beta-testing not taking prior EP basic gameplay into account.

4. Potential game-killing EUPS! coding.
One charlatan horde to fleece them all, Dude, Where Are Mah Portals?, Countess bites Crumplebottom.

5. New fark-ups you can predict that no reasonable company would ever dare release to the public, and which would be caught if they did even the most basic beta-testing.
NVidia throws hands up as EA ignores, again, useful intel.

6. Stuff they won't ask FOJ / JMP about, but should; haxen that will break that the vast majority of Sims players find mandatory.
Censor pixeling, less obsessiveness, MOAR non-stupidity.

7. Stuff they will blame others for that IS their fault and borks the game.
Sony, NVidia, the end users, anyone but their own inept crew.

8. Feeling positive? Venture a guess about what will, beyond all expectations, actually go right and entice you to acquire this EP.

Ready? Begin the Bork Poll: EP7 L&P version.

Current crafting tables will be badly broken.

Every time we leave the sim alone for 3 seconds, the sim will be using the new "dance bar". 
Fridges will be borken storing leftovers of the new foods. 
Multiple sims will race to get to a random new object every 30 seconds. 
Something that is supposed to raise *random motive here* will lower it instead.
Sims will become "stuck" at the new game tables.
Pathing a la driveway on the game courts.

Everyone's wants will be replaced by +500 aspiration ones of 'Do new action' until they get stomped, this will even occur during special scenarios such as dates and parties making such things almost impossible to do well in.
New skills won't use the already in place badge system, making almost useless in owned businesses as unable to know what people can make.
New object interactions will be worse than dormies playing piano, will in fact squash 'go to class/work' and other vital needs such as eating.
Some other way of making sims pee themselves, object will be used autonomously too.
New cars will break existing ones and fail to function properly themselves, eg go to work always results in a 'late'
Something really bad such as walls will no longer protect against noise (due to fucked up coding of new actions being noisy and having to be in a soundproofed room) however room dividers will continue to do so. Will get 'fixed' in the 1st patch by breaking the room dividers noise protection and failing to restore the walls protecting against the normal noise of stereos.
Some actions will fail to be cancelled by user, they will appear to be but sim does them anyway (bed making anyone?)
The piano will NOT get broken this time, instead all other instruments will be.
A new sim who will visit every new home like gypsy and garden club, they can help with any project you have your sims working on but will have an AI worse than the nanny.
Support for multi processor computers will come in, this won't work. Game will crash repeatedly unless user uses forcecore to only use a single core. However they then won't be able to enter the game as the option to change the number of processors the game uses will only be an ingame option. This of course will not be their fault for failing to test the game on an actual computer. A similar thing will occur for 'Now supports Vista!'

Any new crafting ability will require two completely illogical skills to be maxed for optimum performance, and will appeal to Sims with personality traits that make skilling up in said skills twice as hard.

Sims will have about as much attraction the the basketball court as they do to a dog that hasn't been washed in six sim days, unless their Lazy/Active attribute is 10, in which case they'll be glued to the court until they are within three sim minutes of expiring from hunger, peeing themselves, or missing the carpool.

Chemistry will be fubared with the addition of the new crafts, at least until JMP fixes it for us.

Pet routing will go belly up, as all pets in a household go and stare at the crafting objects, standing in just such a way as to make Sims routing also go belly up.

repaired cars will break over and over again

Primp interaction will be broken again, that's a given.

Pulling a binocular from ass for bird watching will cause a massive lag a la water balloon fight in Seasons.

Sims will be stuck in limbo between home and new "secret lots".

Crafted cars will not work as well as buyable cars. If Sims go to work/school in crafted cars, Sims will be MIA.

New food (if there is any) cannot be cooked from the fresh food.

The piano being broken is a pretty safe bet. I'm just about convinced that they do it for the lulz. I mean, considering how many times it's been broken now, you would think they'd put it on the top of their must-test list (assuming such a thing exists... I'd need solid evidence before I'd believe it).

Teddy Bear creation will not be possible since the sim attempting to make teddy bears will wander off every five seconds to "Talk Through."

Bird Watching: the first thing desperate players will want a haxxx to put a stop to.

The new wants cannot be stomped, even when the required conditions are met. Players will find that a shift+click in debug mode will be equally useless.

It won't be a new sim.  It will be an army of new project-helping sims who rock up on the lot.  At least one for each hobby will turn up.  And there will, of course, be at least 3 of them created for each hobby.

The stealth neighbourhood for this EP (you know we'll get one!) will use a new, different method of adding itself, and nobody will be willing to play their regular 'hoods until someone works out how to stop the addition of tons of useless townies and fugly playables (with borked genetics/family trees) that we don't want in every bloody 'hood.

The promised toddler items will allow multiple toddlers to use the same object together, without building social.

Somehow they will break the birthday cakes, after making them bake-able.

Ok, hopefully I don't repeat:

1. Skill points obtained from the new crafting stations will not properly fulfill the "Max X Skill" want or "Max all 7 Skills" LTW.
2. Cars restored/created through hobbycraft will become undrivable when a sim takes them to a community lot, reverting to their original state.
3. The nanny will now ignore all other tasks to bird watch. This is actually preferable, as there will be fewer kitchen fires.
4. The birds will have some sort of missing texture issue, resulting in flying balls of flashing blueness, ala the accessory debacle.
5. All cars will now have a new "feature" of breaking down every two days.
6. New craftable items will not restock correctly.

Most of us will not be able to see the birds at all. We will just have sims staring up at open air. Much like the fishtanks.

If your sim is off-world in the new fixable car and you cancel the action, they will not return, the car won't return but the sim will be there when you next load the lot or they will come back and the car will pop back into broken state.

Sims will become stuck "in the zone". It will trump all user actions and canceling the action will not boot them out of it until sim hours later.

The new baking ability will be constantly performed, especially by stupid sims with no cooking points or even by sims who should normally have no interest in the action. Sims will become fat because they are obsessed with eating the baked food.

I can't believe all of you forgot temperature.

Temperature WILL be broken. People will get hot to the point of catching fire while doing anything that even looks like it has some physical component to it.

Zazazu'a car prediction is very likely. Cars will break down frequently. If there is no car-repair-liking Sim present, you will have to pay for one to come. This will cost assloads and also break any and all phone hacks in some mystical way. They also may or may not actually properly notice the car and repair it. If you try to fix it on your own without a car repair person, it works like a chance card. There will be a 50/50 chance that you blow it in some spectacular way.

Due to some confusing "fix", the invitations for any crafting-related "party" in the phone tree will show in yet another instance of "Throw a Party." My New Year's Party thing already does this. I hate that.

They WILL add another chance card instance. It will be extremely arbitrary. There will be no "right" answer (See: Ninja) or it will be closer to 50/50 than favoring any kind of positive result that would make you want to do the action in question. And bees will be involved. Bees are ALWAYS INVOLVED.

...I think that's good for now.

There will be a hobby store. Sims will autonomously buy hobby items when nobody is looking, regardless of their interests or social status. Just like the damn pets.

The "stop talking through the teddy bears" hack will not apply to created teddy bears. The same goes for kicking dollhouses if there's a similar ability to make models. In fact, there will be an autonomous behavior that will cause some Sims to compulsively ruin other Sims' created works.

Current cars will not be repairable, though they will break. They'll forget to test that little feature.

There's a 50/50 chance that either current cars will be the only ones you can make or they'll be unmakeable.

There will be a new hairstyle, outfit, and/or accessory with alpha issues.

Sims who have less than no interest in bird-watching will still watch birds... and then complain that it's boring.

Birds will cause such unholy amounts of lag that they will be rapidly modded.

More to the Nvidia theme: Nvidia users won't be able to see birds because they have to play with useshadersoff to avoid the game crashing e.g. fish from Seasons.

Possibly the game will not be playable without BSODs or other random crashes for thousands of players, e.g. Bon Voyage.

EA will not issue a patch because it's the last EP and they have moved on to TS3 (also fuck you, you're just betatesters customers).

No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?

I am scared of "The Zone." I think it will destroy lives and tear families apart. Along with broken hairs, there will be the usual cavalcade of "hidden" items. I still don't understand why they "hide" them.  :P

Easy fix: open %LATEST EP INSTALL DIRECTORY%/TSData/Overrides/HolidayNewYearsPartyFix.package (or something to that effect) in SimPE. Find the pie menu string for English_uk, and remove the ellipsis. Then retype the ellipsis. Save, and it should be fixed. You'll need to recopy the package for every future EP.

TECHNICAL EXPLANATION: EA did the pie menu string "translation" for that package with Microsoft Word. Microsoft Word likes replacing a three-character ellipsis with a one-character ellipsis. This means that the two are seen as different things by the game, creating the duplicate entry.

PREDICTIONS: SecuROM will be updated again, but this is obvious. Relationships scores between family and friends will decrease much, much faster while "in the zone". Sims will autonomously get "in the zone" on community lots, and will not come out of the zone until they die or are close to dying. There will be at least 300 new "WHERE R TIRPLETS AND QAUDS/NO FREINDS 4 CAERERS???/???//" threads.

The new "creature sim" will be ragdoll sims (god, I hope so!) and they constantly die of unraveling stitching. Even if they just stitched themselves up. Or they die if they get in water, and constantly commit suicide by jumping into pools/swimmable beaches.

All of the advertised new child and toddler actions that are featured prominently in videos and ads will be broken when the game comes out. The coding will make the objects and interactions teen only.

Really?  :o Am I the only one that finds that odd? Give me a good old fashioned text editor any day.

I'm thinking they might not bork the NVidia compatibility further, but instead branch out and make ATI cards bork too. Soon, nobody will be able to play the game at all, due to exceeding borkination. Oh wait, that's already about to happen. :P

Nope. And doing so proves once again how dumb they are. Word shouldn't be used for anything other than what it's intended for: word processing for school papers and businesses. Doi, it leaves tons of hidden code and AutoCorrect is evil when it comes to code writing.

Dear god, it's worse than I thought! *flails* Word!?

Anyway! Just saw the new Artist thing. The artists? They will have every problem you ever had with the Secret Societies, only worse.

The clay will hopefully be able to fly off the pottery wheel if you have low skill. I'd love that. However, it will break, and you will lose the clay every time, as it will never land.

Jeleandra, I love you. Ragdoll sims a la Sally would rock. I'd like anything that actually looks hand-made, too, really. However, the Ragdoll sims "skin" will also have the wrong footstep noises.

ETA: Just noticed the secondary aspiration thing. That WILL break any mod relating with aspiration wants. It will also break the mod that makes romance Sims have no jealousy.

I'll take that one step further: the flying clay will never land AND will fill your lots with invisible lumps of clay that will cause tremendous lag and game crashage. Pes will have to add "Nuke Clay Lumps" to the FFS Lot Debugger.

Ragdoll Sims would totally rock. That, of course, is why we won't get them :'(. Instead we'll get a "life size teddy bear sim" because I'm starting to think EA is a bunch of furries.

Also I agree with someone else who said that while toddlers will be able to so called group activities, they won't build any relationships with the other toddles. Much how twins in the game now can have zero social scores with each other.

It will probably be furry AND green.  :-[

Also, EAxis' obsession with potty humour implies that the birds may poop on bird-watching Sims. Bad coding will make the chances high, not rare. Invisible poos and red Hygiene metres will result.

There's an even easier solution: Just remove the en_uk strings entirely, because they're simply a total waste of space, as EAxis doesn't actually USE them for anything except wasteful redundancy. It's not like they actually use British spelling in the UK stringset or anything.

The new way to increase the chance of twins will be incredibly borked and cause everyone to spawn twins all the time.

I am laying confident bets on any item containing "EA" in the title becoming the only thing ever to appear in the wants list.  Whatver these wants are, they will be worth minimal aspiration points.  They will be immediately rerolled on fulfillment.  World without end.  Pleasure sims will become even more of a pain in the bum than they already are.  "Play EA FIFA 2009", "Play MySims", "Play Spore", "Get in zone playing game" ...

Each game will take two sim hours to find and load.  No child will get to school on time because left to themselves for only seconds, they will be locked into a "go and get game from upstairs bedroom, whine for half a sim hour because someone else is using the only console they consider available, insert game, play game, have hysterics because of missed school" cycle.

Cars will collapse and die on use.  A car repairperson will be a new and useless NPC, spawning in gigantic quantities, along with "wild bohemian artists". 

The teddy bear construction kit is doomed.  Nobody will ever finish making a teddy bear, because every item in any given queue will be stomped by the passionate desire to "go and help make bear" for all sims on the lot.

Easels will be the new piano and will cease to work at all.  If they do work, they will have the draining abilities of green snapdragon smoke.

The more I think about this, the more I likely to give the whole thing a miss.

Oh no.

I just realized.

What if they make the new creature Sim........ Social Bunnies?

I'm in full agreement with:

*Binocular lag.  And of course they'll be obsessed with bird watching, making lagging constant (and birds will cause lag, a la the lady bug houses)

*Food issues.  Any new foods won't be able to be saved as leftovers.  I'll add that exisitng bakeries will need to replace all food as it will be reset and ruined (including food in inventories--which may cause further issues).

*Car issues.  Fixed ones will break, issues with calling/using repairman, etc

My predictions:

*Already created portraits/custom paintings will all reset to a maxis painting (probably the sunset).  There will be no way to fix it.

*The weird "pets" neighborhood thing will happen again.  You'll fire up the game to find your neighborhoods have been replaced by some strange new neighborhood template, which you won't be able to load or do anything with.  You'll have to a complete re-install to fix it.

*We'll get multiple pollinators again.  Like the time between Nightlife and Pets (if memory serves), all the products of abduction will not be related.  But existing alien sims will have major relationship/family tree issues that will never be completely fixed.

*Borked maxis made family in the bin (that's a given) a la the Auto-Mess family.  And they'll escape the bin all the time (and probably be hideously ugly--though I like hideously ugly).

Any activity that advertises heavily (i.e. basketball court, teddy bear crafting, bird watching) that sims will do autonomously and constantly will take at least a sim-half-hour to cancel, a la sandcastle building.

Or snowman building. I never understood why it takes three hours to stop building a snowman long enough to get a COAT on so the sim isn't in their UNDERWEAR.

Dear god, I hate that. I had every damn one of my Sims freeze solid while that was happening.

Problem: I had used the weather machine to make the snow.

...

And it was still on. And there was nobody to turn it off.

I possessed the paper boy to turn it off and warm them up. x_X

It's a fundamental rule of simming that any autonomous activity will be infuriating, time consuming and lethal.  For preference, EA seem to like it best when those activities add a stuck object or bugger up your portals.

There is no reason I can see to think this new EP will be any different.  It will just have added shiney numptitude.

I say that all this let's play Spore, and My Sims is propaganda and the only new game we get is that Don't Wake the Llama. BUT since games are one of the main points of this EP the advertising for SFX or whatever it is goes up making it impossible to have a computer in an accessible area.

The twins thing is a total lie. Wasn't there something about cookies that was supposed to improve twin odds but did nothing?


Though, I know this completely will not happen, I would love for them to bring the Artistic/Creative/Whatever it was called Aspiration from the ps2 Sims 2.

Yes, that would be good, and would make real sense, and would be very useful... which is why it won't happen, of course.

That was a rumour started around the time of TS2's release. Eventually, it got so well known that EA actually created a food which increased twin odds (cheesecake, introduced in OFB). However, due to buggy programming, it increased the odds to 100%. I have no doubts that the EP7 increase will either be the same as the cheesecake increase, or complete bullshit.

Any Sim with the bad luck to become a zombie vampire werewolf plantsim (insert EP7 weirdo here) will either constantly error due to a lack of foresight on how many layers a Sim should be able to display, or the skin colour will change randomly and generally look terrible.

Smooth Talking will be broken. At best, it will be like normal conversations, at worst, it will be the inverse of what it was intended to be.

The 'Teeny Tikes Activity Table' will leave invisible blocks and crayoned pictures all over the lot. These will slow the lot down to a crawl and will need to be nuked ala Kicky Bags.

Well, first, activities involving long animations with no abort points inherently has this extreme difficulty in aborting it. Second, coats don't do jack. All the snow interactions inflict cold damage independently of a sim's uniform, so it doesn't really matter whether they're building snowmen dressed in a coat vs. a bikini.

I am a numpty - give me my £5. 

Is this true only of snow related activities?  If I make a sim chat for hours to a neighbour wearing a coat will he chill slower than if he chats for hours in his underwear?

If not, my entire household is going into swimsuits for the whole year, which is what they seem to want to do most days anyway.

Which is WILDLY STUPID *augh*

Temperature queries are awsered in http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,7656.0.html (http://this thred)
I'll take "Cars will break down frequently" a step futher. Said cars will be impossible to fix - i.e. car-fixing will be borked and will literally take forever to fix.

I know someting like this has been said before, but your Sims aspirations will now be stomped by two 500 AP wants: buy crap and use crap! Autonomous actions will revolve around use crap. No more asylum challenges, because your Sims will be too busy using new skilling machines to eat, sleep, or use the terlet.

Starting? Think? With Social Bunnines in the base game, Mascots in Uni, and the Gorilla Costume in OFB, I'm suprised you'd admit to not knowing so since a long time ago.

The difference is not statistically significant. Coats have no effect on chilling. Sims suffer no real cold penalties as long as outdoor temperature is not lower than like -70 and cannot freeze except by cold-inducing actions.

So, as long as you don't build snowmen or snow angels, your sims can dance around in their skivvies until the cows come home and never freeze? I had a sim that refused to go inside and get her coat on to garden and she turned all blue.

It depends on temperature: If temperature is > -70, then yes. If temperature is -70 or worse, then they will freeze regardless of what you do and outerwear has no meaningful effect.

Okay, then I won't worry about their gardening in their pjs anymore then.

BTW, I finally saw the trailer for this. I want because of the violins.

The violins will break strings at the beginning of every playing session, if a Sim has no experience with them. This will make it impossible to learn to play the violin.

At least their mechanical skill will go up, constantly repairing the strings.

No because that will also be broken, won't increase mechanical skill whatsoever and also borked so that if it fails to repair is will be destroyed and end up a pile of rubbish. However even a 10mechanical will not be able to repair it without a 80% failure rate.

Specialized Instrument Repairmen will also spawn a new one every time you need them to repair an instrument, flooding your NPC pool. And don't forget the invisible "broken violin" objects everywhere!

Neighborhood resets will cause fixed cars to revert to their original broken state. Neighborhood will reset after everytime a car is repaired.

The "Maximized XXX skill" memories will be borked. Sims cannot correctly gain memories/fulfill wants by using new FT skilling/crafting objects. Knowledge sims cannot fulfill "Maximized all 7 skills" LTW via new FT activities. Either they gain no memories, or they get false memory spam just like currently borked (and fixed by Pescado as usual) Eggplant Juice. Of course, eggplant juice will remain borked, or they make yet another half-assed attempt to fix it only to bork it MOAR, requiring update of eggplantjuice hack.

They'll attempt to increase the chance of alien abduction with some new perk what'll result in certain abduction every time a sim gawks through the 'scope. Sims will get random crushes from watching others play violin or basketball.

I too watched a trailer; a new creature is going to be the Clown.

Oh gods I hope not.  I'd been thinking that was just another costume.  I wanna ragdoll sim, dammit. *sticks head back in sand*

Personally, I find the clown unoriginal and creepy (there was a clown in TS1 which I hated), and the ragdoll-idea just creeps me out. Perhaps because I've seen quite a few horror-movies/series and read at least one book revolving around dolls or a particular doll (mostly of the porcelain kind) coming "alive" or there's something else creepy about them, like belonging to a ghost-girl that died tragically. No matter what the reason, though, the thoughts of living dolls creep me out more than vampires or zombies ever could.

I just hope that it is not a clown simply because it's not a CREATURE sim. Unless it's something like Sweet-tooth, and he's some evil clown that shows up when your parties are going crappily and torments your sims.

I just think that the "living doll" would be really cool. No need to eat or sleep, all it would need would be social and fun. And of course, an allergy to water, for the lulz.

Maybe it's actually an NPC...

Wait, if it is the Tragic Clown, and it does have the same method of "removal", won't that mean complete disaster given the increase in the deadliness of fires in TS2?

FAKE EDIT: Or was there an easier way to get rid of the TC in Sims 1? Back when I played TS1, I got most of my information from the Prima guide... oh.

I had a painting in sims 1 that kept the clown away, if memory doesn't fail.

Do you have a link to this trailer? I didn't spot a clown when I watched the EA video.

If your sims got happy enough, the clown would leave on its own. Later, enough people complained about the clown, that they made new NPC's that you could download to remove the clown if you called them.

I used either Paladin or SimSlice's hired goons to eradicate wayward mimes and clowns on sight. (This, of course, being back in the day when SimSlice was actually pretty innovative and clever and his hacks didn't farkle your game or duplicate more elegant, less bloated ones. Or cost money.)

There was, yes, an anti-clown painting. But it was kind of fugly and less entertaining. :)

My other fave Sims 1 hack item was a blue "Do It All" kind of mirror...a mini-InSIM before there was such a thing. Every house had a foyer with a lovely blue wall mirror in it.

There needs to be another L&P thread made. The new lies and Propaganda is a stuff pack by the name of Kitchen and Bath designer stuff. So says the game release thing at work. It's listed for April.

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So much L&P that now the page doesn't even exist. They are toying with us.

Here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epYDnkACe4U)

The Clown creature would be a particularly nasty, evil thing, that's why I think it's quite possible, coming from EA.  8)

Video is fake. Notice how the toddler is at an impossible height. How does it get there? What is it DOING there? FAAAAAKE.

D'oh, forgot to mention a potential thing of awesomeness - death by bees! And there're two kiddy sadists observing some trapped ants, but death by ants is probably too much to hope...sigh.

    1. Since this is the bork pool, i hereby claim the possible borking of the 'Attack Of The Killer Bees'.  The bees follow the sim for ever and ever.
    2.  'Ants, Ants everywhere, and not an Uncle in sight!'  The animation of the Ant Colony borks and spreads onto other objects.  The fish aquarium, tv's, mirrors.

A whole variety of fuckups will occur with the contest options.

Contests will not finish properly, cause game errors and generate a bucketload of judges every single time your sim enters one.

It's so much L&P that the link doesn't even work.

I am imagining this like the "clinging bubbles" effect. Harmless, but endless. It would be kind of cool to have a person made of bees.

Ha! Tis true. It's gone now. They've pulled the page.

Maybe because EAxis hasn't made an annoucement yet? Probably waiting for the Free Time EP to come out, so they can make their pretty fliers to put in there.

1. Death by sewing needle

2. "Sports" will consist of two (and only two) sims - a free-throw contest, or practicing with one sim kicking a soccer ball as the other one goaltends. There will be a total of 3 animations per sim per sport, and we'll get incredibly board watching them grind Sports to gain some minuscule benefit. This will be entirely useless for filiming as the animations are so ludicrously repetitive and unnatural that nobody would buy a video made with them.

I was once told that if you take a hot needle and stick it in someone's eye that the eye will explode. Sorry, that just reminded me.

However, an animation of that might be hilarious.

And if you run your finger under a sewing machine needle, the tongue explodes.

Does EA Thailand (http://www.ea.co.th/th-th/games/pc/sims/interiordesign) count for anything?

I only see the cover art, no link to more. I wouldn't mind some matching kitchen and bathroom stuff. What's the bet they still don't make matching sets of anything?

There's also a lot of text (I copypasted so errors are EAxis' fault, not mine):

Oh yes. Nothing says romantic to me like hanging pot racks :D

My mother would beg to differ.  She's been wanting them for so long she'd probably do unspeakable things to whoever bought and installed them for her.

Isn't there already a hanging pot rack for Seasons country kitchen set?

Finally we are getting a new dishwasher for the first time since base game after all 7 EPs are done, pfffft.

Well, honestly, what would you want out of a DISHWASHER that you can't attain with a simple recolor?

I meant the scarcity of kitchen objects in general in all previous EPs. Actually I was going to mention fridge, but then I remembered that Uni came with two new fridges. (If you count the Wornable fridge as 'new', that is.) I just don't understand why EAxis didn't include more kitchen objects in previous EPs. Instead of making a bunch of useless decorative objects like Gorilla statues, they could make just one nice, useful fridge.

Because this is EA.

You can imagine the meetings.

"We could include some useful things, like corner baths and counters that link up to island units"
"Nah - our demographics show that what players really, really want is another ton of enormous polycount decorative crap to strew around and make the game run incredibly slowly"
"You're so right.  I know!  Let's give them an enormous Llama statue in multiple horrible colours which will randomly kill sims who try to pet it"
"Stuff useful appliances, go with the exploding Llama"

Only if you live in Thailand. How else can you view the page?

 ??? I'm not in Thailand, and I can see the page just fine, including the text.

(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4397/electronicartsthailandtuk8.th.jpg) (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=electronicartsthailandtuk8.jpg)

I want, simply because decorating bathrooms and kitchens are my favorite things. They are the only rooms in a Sims house that get me inspired. Maybe now we'll get a stove that works in a kitchen island. It would make my Good Eats Kitchen moar accurate because I won't have to have another stove for the sims to cook on.

Island cook tops and wall insert ovens would be shiny (want! in real life too).  As this is the bork pool however, I would have to suggest that insertion of wall ovens will cause all sorts of "objects can't intersect other objects" problems, and probably bork sim routing through the kitchen (and it's all L&P anyway).

Ah, yes, bork pool, the new L&P Stuff Pack when come with new tile walls and floors, and none will match. Just like now.

Given that SPs never offered any new kinds of objects so far, I think they will be just plain ordinary stoves.

If new pie menus for fridges/stoves/appliances are added in the FreeTime, they will be unavailable in the L&P SP objects, even though the SP is going to be released 2 months AFTER FT. (Like Teen computer and stereo without BV function)

Or the Glamour Pack furniture not have pet functions.

Okay, *that* sounds fun. Also right up my alley. You have given me renewed purpose in watching Good Eats (as if it was needed). Do you have an Alton Brown Sim? *g*

...I'm now having evil thoughts about making an Anthony Bourdain Sim and a Rachel Ray Sim and watching them go at it.

*laughs* No, I don't I just loved his kitchen so I gave one of my sims his kitchen. It would be nice if these Kitchen and Bath SP has a fridge that has the freezer on the bottom like his.

It wouldn't be too hard to make one though, his face sorta lends itself to the sims...

"Oh, bother."

Well, it's rather obvious that not a damn thing will match. Not even the "sets" of new stuff they add. They've already proved themselves very good at doing that.

Anyone have any idea what "Sims Carnival SnapCity" is?   ???

I can't really view the page. It shows up properly, but the text is gibberish.

It sends you to pogo.com where there is a game for "free trial" or $19.99 purchase.


If you look for a bit, there is also the Sims Carnival Bumper Blast, that looks like they are charging $20 for a Shockwave game.


Edit: Everyone run and have a look, for the borkiness that could be hinted at, in the newly uncovered "Issue 5: SimScientific"! Run Don't walk!

Let's see. I spy with my little eye one more random phone call for our sims to receive ...much like the ones kids can get when they get straight As or the random simolian rewards. I see one new job and one useless object that, oh goody, can have the aliens rape our male sims on command and ants that escape and do less then the cockroaches. I foresee that the only things that happen with escaped ants are the usual "stomp" and "spray commands". For ants in the farm it will be "watch" and "shake" ...the sims will then laugh after they shake it or feel bad about it depending on their personality.
Looks like they couldn't figure out what to give knowledge sims other then decorative objects.

There will obviously be no "Become highest level Oceanographer" LTW.

Wait, lifetime benefit? Like, you get your LTW and get a nice, shiny reward for it?

Which is apparently getting raped by aliens...

*THUD*

We'll, at least they get a Koi pond for reaching the top of the oceanographer career track. ...wasn't there something like that in sims1? You could get fish food and feed the fish? Damn it, now I want to start the old game up and find out.

Thank you for reminding me, Morriganrant.

The koi will die very rapidly. In fact, you will be surprised if you ever manage to keep them alive.

Or, alternatively, koi pond will be useless decorative object that has fish that most of us can not see. Much like fish tank fish or seasons fish.

The maid will find herself in a new infinite loop of cleaning the koi pond.  ::)

In the community lot, you could also rent a remote-controlled boat from park booth.

They'll try to do that for sims 2 and the remote controlled boat will be borked, like the remote controlled car.  And if you have the holiday pack, Santa will now have the choice to give either the fucked up boat or the fucked up car.  JOY!

Supposedly there will be a remote controlled helicopter for them to fuck up as well.

Helicopters will have a chance of being stuck in the trees. Cars and boats will have a chance to strike obstructions. Either case will, instead of the intended behavior, make the object disappear immediately, leaving an invisible object and possibly sticking your Sim in the "retrieve" animation.

The new woohoo object will be broken, as sims that use it to woohoo will immediately get crushes on themselves.

Rumour (in the form of Snooty Sims) says that the new creature will be the Genie.  http://www.snootysims.com/

Oh joy.  EAxis have decided to revive something already ill-concieved from TS1 and insert it into TS2 with added numptitude.

The potential for horror with this ep grows all the time.  Pescado is going to be a busy bunny.

I liked the genie from Sims 1 (though didn't use him all the time).  The only way to play the stupid "hillbilly" house (that came with unleashed) was to ruin their lives with the genie.

Thank you for the infos, MrsH. Also enjoying the word "numpitude." YOINK!

I thought we already had the genie, in the form of the wishing well.

Yup we do Assmitten which is why they will add it, it will use different code and cause massive conflicts with the wishing well. So that if you have a wishing well anywhere in your hood on installation the hood will immediately get corrupted and explode the game.

Toddlers will be allowed to go to the "Special" lots in the car, but the animations will be borken, resulting in ADHD, and the sim-parents will attempt to take the toddlers to regular community lots in the car, which will PHAIL and crash the game.

ETA:  Upon the crash, both car and Sims will be stuck in limbo, and we will need Pes's Awesomeness to get the sims back.  The car will be lost forever.

I am fairly worried about the Lifetime Friends feature. Given everything we know from previous statements, a "low chance of relationship decay" actually means a "0% chance of relationship decay" (much like how an "increased chance of twins" actually means a "100% chance of twins"). To this end, they will probably also be hilariously easy to obtain, leading to more useless relationship panel spam.

And given that the Lifetime Aspiration meter will probably be powered by Lifetime Wants, it's almost a certainty that sims who have previously fulfilled LTWs won't get all/any of them counted towards the LTAM.

I predict excessive gypsy spawning because of this sentance on Snooty Sims.

They either assume that everyone has NL or they will spawn a gypsy for those that don't have NL. So those of us with NL will probably end up with extra gypsys. Maybe repetitive npc spam once again.

The FT cars will not work properly unless you have NL, those without NL will suffer from car errors every time they try to leave the lot in one.

When a sim dies of old age, 3 of their elder friends will also die of old age due to how birthdays are now handled. These sims will be, more often than not, your playable sims who are at the very beginning of their elder years.

Everyone in the household will be forced to grow up without warning when one sim grows up
while elders die off quickly

Actually, I wouldn't mind *that* bug at all.

The Eternal Newspaper Delivery will start if you don't remove/update inTeen or inSim prior to installation. And, of course, the "become Lifetime Friends with [insert random townie they just met and will never see again]" want spam.

When your sim parks a car, it will park two levels above where the garage is.

All newborn babies will be aliens, regardless of who their parents were.

Social Workers will take your baby as soon as it's born, but will never leave your lot, rendering it unplayable.

Precision Lightning strikes will begin occuring as frequently as possible.  They will strike down your sims at completely random times, regardless of whether or not they are inside or outside, or if it's even storming to begin with.

It will completely delete your downloads folder at first play.

All sims will be bald.  Therefore, your game will explode when you calculate their man score:
(http://i26.tinypic.com/4vr58x.jpg) division by zero=fail.

That's why you take your Downloads folder OUT before installing a new EP. DUH.

Choose one or many;

a) There will be no option to have an alarm installed in a fixable car.
b) There will be an option to have an alarm installed in a fixable car, but sending a fixable car to have an alarm installed will result in limbo loss of car, sim or both.
c) Sending fixable car to have an alarm installed will result in mysterious spawnage of multiple, identical, cheap-ass, fixable cars, that all want to come home;
d) Sims will have option to install car alarm themselves, resulting in portal deletion and/or other mayhem.
e) Fixable cars do not register as repaired, even though the car fixin' progress bar is full--car is driveway art, until Pes hacks a fix.
f) Car fixin' is outdoor-only activity and borks temperature, resulting in spontaneous combustion plague.
g) Car fixin' is garage-only activitiy; fixin' car inside garage borks garage doors.

Spontanous car combustion would be awesone ("I swear, Officer, it was an accident").

It would be awesome if there was a new sim death, "Crushed by car."

That would be much too violent for the sims, they cannot let their rating go up past Teen, even though violence is part of real life.


E for the win.

Too violent for a game where dying in a kitchen fire is considered funny ;)?

The new supernatural, according to Snooty Sims, is a genie.  In a bottle.  wow.

Still - all kinds of potential for borkiness when granting your three wishes (Mine: 1. make the game work properly, 2. stop the madness of sim monomania, 3. no more hidden neighbourhoods).

Edit
Ah - ninja'd on the news about the genie, I see, but I still want my three wishes


That's the first thing I tried when I got Nightlife - 't would indeed be awesome.

You weren't so much ninja'd about the genie, more like living under a rock for quite a while.  :P Wishes are the same as wishing well, unfortunately. They really half-assed it on the creature this time.

The primary and secondary aspirations would contradict and consequently fuck up chemistry between Sims.

Stop trying so desperately to be a smart ass. Seriously, the majority of your posts are simply ass.

I just think it would've been funny for the car to crush the little simmies. They could lay there and twitch while the Reaper reviews his List.

It would be amusing if the ghost could then float around pancake flat, cartoon style.

I really don't care if you think the majority of my posts are ass in nature, because it is my nature.

Ooooh, you're one of those.

Thanks for letting us know.

*Jelenedra writes Snake off.

Game will break if you try to pick Pleasure as a secondary aspiration, even if you have Nightlife. Sims will get new wants from the other EP's (probably slow dance) without these EPs being installed.

Secondary Aspirations have been added because the primary aspirations are now completely broken, only throwing the same four wants every time.

The lifetime aspiration meter will get stuck, and be impossible to fill, much like for the sims that should be perma-plat and then it never happens.

Aging sims on the same lot at a birthday will freeze the game. Sims will be stuck with the wrong body for their age, or stuck in that age forever. If you age a sim pregnant with twins along with yours, EVERY FAMILY WILL BE STUCK WITH TWINS. Sims will be stuck as permanently pregnant and never give birth when aged as companions.

The smart milk will no longer work on toddlers that use the table. Toddlers won't gain skills from it.

Use of the wishing well for friends will make it impossible to visit a hobby club. Garden club membership will break from joining a hobby club. New careers will be missing elder outfits.

Secret hobby lots will break the walk to lot function.

Sims who enter a contest will pee themselves/starve/ enter hunger/energy death cycle while waiting for other sims to enter the contest and for the completion of judginating. Other sims called to enter the contest will have it drop out of the queue, breaking the contest and leaving your sim trapped forever waiting for them, and we won't be able to abort the action.

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I dunno, they had Oblivion originally rated as a teen game despite unspeakable violence. Apparently violence is okay, so long as no one can possibly get naked. The teen rating seems awfully broad.

Yeah, Oblivion was rated as T, right up until Jack "nutcase" Thompson got into it. It's rated M now for nudity. As for unspeakable violence ...I don't see it. I consider it much less violent them a good many other games out there.

Figuratively, I mean. You know, the burning corpses and people being dropped on spikes/lava in Oblivion when you pull a switch? Plus the ability to kill people. Considering that the sims is also rated teen, it seems kind of crazy in comparison. Oh, and don't forget the way you could run around with arrows through your head. It had every aspect of horrific, "unspeakable" violence save guns and children.

*snort* I had forgotten about how long those arrows hung around after getting shot. It's possibly just the way I look at games. I tend to see a game that is obviously not in "our world" to not be on the same shelf as one that mimics our world or is supposed to take place in our world. A world that has magic and demons is a fantasy world and is not to be taken in with the same seriousness regardless of the amount of blood. A game like GTA would probably not make it into my home, if I ever had kids, until my child is 15 or so because it is mimicking our world and is supposed to be taking place in it.

The more I think about it, the more I want car fires. And 'splosions.

Also, Genie borks Wishing Well so neither of them function.

The new hobbies wants will completely bork the attraction system. Sims previously happily married will demand for divorce because of hobbies incompatibilities. All sims will instantly gain an unexplained high attraction level for Benjamin Long who will be deeply interested in pottery. All of hobbies will be extremely addictive making the sims sewing till they drop dead.

At least, this would add some realism to the game. Personally, I'd regard that as a feature and a comfortable way to tune down the 3-bolts madness a bit.

Worse, if your simmies don't have an insta-crush on Benjamin Long, they'll have insta-crushes on Goopy... or Komei!

Let's hope that alarm clocks won't be affected by the new EP... the sims would have its first death-by-loud-noise