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Title: bringing money home from uni
Post by: Toast on 2007 December 02, 07:32:33
I have a sim who started a business in college and took all the cash perks, so now his Greek house treasury is $90k or so. However, he only has memories of earning $25k so far. I am taking this to mean that the cash perks don't count as "earned" money, which is stupid, but oh well.

My question is, how does the game decide how much money a uni student takes back to the base neighborhood? I thought if he made more than $20k in college he'd go home with the actual amount he earned. But is that based on his memories or on the money in the treasury at the time of graduation? I want to know if I need to send his money home with him in the form of expensive statues in his inventory, or what. He earned it fairly and I don't want him to leave it behind at La Fiesta.  :P


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: sloppyhousewife on 2007 December 02, 10:05:54
You won't leave the cash behind, don't worry ;) - I just had a sim graduate and return to the hood with over 70k, but he only remembered earning 10k (Dean's List). The rest was dug up in the dorm's backyard ;D.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: Gwill on 2007 December 02, 12:52:28
If you use no20khandout students will bring back their proportional share of any money they earn.  Otherwise they'll return to the neigbourhood with 20k.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: jefrir on 2007 December 02, 14:19:26
If you don't want no20khandouts, buy a load of expensive crap,put it in his inventory, and sell it when you get to the main hood. Otherwise he will indeed end up with only 20k


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: ZiggyDoodle on 2007 December 02, 16:44:16
My YAs appear to leave their (private) dorms and return home with their proportionate share of the household income at the time they left campus, plus the standard $20K.  I.e.  Abigayle Montrose returned to her hood with $36,000 in her bank account, while Cody Swan had $27,500.    While both were on the dean's list, Abigayle had more roomies than Cody.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: Toast on 2007 December 02, 19:22:19
My YAs appear to leave their (private) dorms and return home with their proportionate share of the household income at the time they left campus, plus the standard $20K.  I.e.  Abigayle Montrose returned to her hood with $36,000 in her bank account, while Cody Swan had $27,500.    While both were on the dean's list, Abigayle had more roomies than Cody.

When they graduated, was anyone left behind in the dorm or was it emptied out? My kid had 5 roommates, 2 of whom have graduated and only got the standard $20k when they went back to Strangetown. So I am wondering now if you'll only take the surplus money home if you're the last one to graduate and you leave the lot empty behind you. And I have to leave a placeholder there for various reasons after all the kids graduate.

I guess I'm just going to take the money home in inventory statues to be safe, but I'm still curious as to how the game calculates this number.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: Venusy on 2007 December 02, 19:47:36
Here's how the game calculates it:

If you do not have no20khandouts installed: everyone gets 20K, regardless of how much they should get.
If you do have no20khandouts installed: everyone gets a proportional share of the money (I'm not sure if this calculation includes dormies, or if it's just playable sims).


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: Gwill on 2007 December 02, 19:53:46
Dormies are not included in calculation, only playable members of the household.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: ZiggyDoodle on 2007 December 02, 20:08:30
My YAs appear to leave their (private) dorms and return home with their proportionate share of the household income at the time they left campus, plus the standard $20K.  I.e.  Abigayle Montrose returned to her hood with $36,000 in her bank account, while Cody Swan had $27,500.    While both were on the dean's list, Abigayle had more roomies than Cody.

When they graduated, was anyone left behind in the dorm or was it emptied out? My kid had 5 roommates, 2 of whom have graduated and only got the standard $20k when they went back to Strangetown. So I am wondering now if you'll only take the surplus money home if you're the last one to graduate and you leave the lot empty behind you. And I have to leave a placeholder there for various reasons after all the kids graduate.

I guess I'm just going to take the money home in inventory statues to be safe, but I'm still curious as to how the game calculates this number.

I never leave any private dorm empty. At least one playable YA is always in residence and I rotate my play so there's always some teen in the background, waiting to go to Uni.  I will admit I've never bothered to track the household wealth of each dorm, but am pretty certain that all my graduates have more than $20K when they land back in the neighborhood.    I have a couple more who just graduated and are hanging around their dorms; will make it a point to note their bank accounts when I move them back to the hood.  BTW,  I don't have no20khandouts.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: sloppyhousewife on 2007 December 03, 08:13:27
If you do not have no20khandouts installed: everyone gets 20K, regardless of how much they should get.

Hm... don't they get 20k as a minimum ? I'm pretty sure my YAs brought home more than 20k long before I discovered no20khandouts ???. I have to add, though, that my sims used to have their own houses instead of living in a dorm, no idea if this makes a difference.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: veilchen on 2007 December 03, 15:15:35
I wish I could help, but I usually just use Monique's computer to deposit any monies that are due my simmies at move out. I never differentiated between dorms, greek-houses, or private houses. I calculated what they made/earned and deposited it into their bank account. When they returned, all they had to do was get another Monique computer and withdraw their deposits. Often I just left it in, because after depositing 1000+ they usually got interest. Not all that much, but it helped a little for the start-outs.



Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 December 03, 22:07:03
If you do not have no20khandouts installed: everyone gets 20K, regardless of how much they should get.

Hm... don't they get 20k as a minimum ? I'm pretty sure my YAs brought home more than 20k long before I discovered no20khandouts ???. I have to add, though, that my sims used to have their own houses instead of living in a dorm, no idea if this makes a difference.
I don't have no20k handouts. In a home/dorm with more than one playable and, say $2k in the bank (I generally start a house or dorm every round, so I'm decorating) each graduate gets 20k. Doesn't really matter for me because in Queen's Cove, I roll for how much they get to start a house with and that amount would be adjusted regardless. In my apoc, I had him sell all the dorm furnishings in the end and he had $39k in the coffers..$39k in the sim bin in Dark Side of the Moon. One playable in that dorm, thirteen dormies.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: J. M. Pescado on 2007 December 04, 10:44:32
I am uncertain why you would ROLL how much money that they get. It doesn't work that way in real life, either. Graduating college doesn't magically give you more money from the ether, after all.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: Zazazu on 2007 December 04, 15:53:09
Because I roll everything.  ;D

Neh, I roll it, then take the money from the parents, like a graduation gift. Some families bankrupt themselves to give their kids a new life. Some are stingy and give them very little so they appreciate the struggle their parents went through.


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: jolrei on 2007 December 04, 16:26:09
I do something similar to Veilchen - I note what my graduate has upon graduation and then adjust it, either in SimPE or using Insim's budget adjuster.  This means that I have never had a uni student (who after all has spent all his/her time studying, hustling pool, and chasing other sims of one or more genders around campus) with more than about S7000 (and that's if tipping was good when he played jazz piano or something).  If the sim wants a house, he/she has to depend on money orders from mum and dad.

Hmmm.  Sounds like I should probably take another look at the RTFM for "no20Khandouts".


Title: Re: bringing money home from uni
Post by: doren on 2007 December 05, 18:03:13
Graduating college doesn't magically give you more money from the ether, after all.

If it did I would have had an incentive to actually graduate. Instead many studies require further - privately financed - education if you are hoping to get into paid employment one day in the future.