More Awesome Than You!

One of my sims started randomly gossiping about another sim I have never seen before, so I checked out her memories and relationships to see who she was talking about. In her memories I found out she's an OMGH0R:
(http://pics.livejournal.com/skittlebox/pic/00004szd)

Not too odd in Sim land, really. Until you look at her family tree.
(http://pics.livejournal.com/skittlebox/pic/00005142)

She had an affair with her son. He also has the affair memory.

I'm assuming the memories come from this scene, which had happened earlier.
(http://pics.livejournal.com/skittlebox/pic/000063s4)

At the time, I thought it was odd that mother was snuggling her son like that, but whatever. They are sims...

(http://pics.livejournal.com/skittlebox/pic/000078sw)

And then the mother got out of the bed, naked.

I don't think anything "happened" between the two. I'd taken the picture of them sleeping, then went on my way around the house until I heard the NAKED! shrieking. The wife doesn't seem to care though. She likes congratulating her mother-in-law about it.

(http://pics.livejournal.com/skittlebox/pic/0000820r)

(http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/cats/kitten_died.jpg)

I don't use the kitten killer :P My hood is just getting glitchy.

Stuff like that does not happen on it's own.  Something is causing that kind of glitch.

My neighbourhood is on the verge of the death; I've been having a few odd things starting to happen so I'm assuming glitchiness for being a legacy lot. Neither of them have any romantic options between each other.

This couldn't be related to the "feature" that has sims get all angry and think there's cheating going on when two sims relax together, could it? Ah well. I bow to your game's level of depravity. The worst I have is a townie (2 days from death) who married my founder, then started boinking her son's wife when she died, then boinking her granddaughter when she came of age and now lives in a shack on the beach with her and their love child, sleeping on a bunch of boxes.

Is the family icon present in the relationship panel thumbnails?

I wanna know where Zazazu got the boxes to sleep on - would go great in my squalid beach huts.

Dunno, but my Urban Jungle sims generally start out with MSBarrows Flat Broke beds from TSR.

Bad Boy Bubby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Boy_Bubby)

Brilliant movie, very funny.

ETA: Thoughtful article (http://eireville.blogspot.com/2005/10/bad-boy-bubby.html). Warning, complete spoilers.

In Veronaville a father got a memory of WooHooing his young adult son for some reason... ???

He didn't even know his son that well  :-\ I guess it was a glitch. The young adult son got the memory too though...

Was that a CAS created family or one of the originals?  The originals are puddled - mostly they just aren't truly related at all......

Are you talking about my post?

If so, they were CAS. Oddly.  ???

I think my Veronaville is ready to become a BFBVFS :(

Yes, I was replying to you, just forgot to quote you first!  All Veronavilles tend to be headed that way from the day you start playing them!  Maybe the cleaned up versions would be an improvement.

All my Veronavillians are obsessed with WooHoo!

You should see the toddler that wants to Public WooHoo!  :-[

My Strangetown was about to blow up when I did some fun SimPE finagling and have since kept it alive.  By doing so, however, I somehow copied all of the pre-made EAxis sim families and some of the townies that I had married into my CAS sims.  So, I wound up with an alien Chloe who was married to my self sim's kid who had their own child and another alien Chloe who I hadn't played. Both showed up in the family tree with the same parents, sibs, extended family, etc, but depending on the path I used to access the various families I would get either the played Chloe or the new Chloe to show up.  Because of this snafu, the game allowed Chloe's son to marry his half-niece because the son was accessed via the played Chloe and the niece through the virgin Chloe.  So, I fixed the dual character problem in SimPE, but now I have a family tree that doesn't branch.   ;D
 

That's the trouble with the later versions of SimPE, isn't it.  I think you can do it with SimEnhancer, but of course, it isn't free.

I have no idea what might have caused that, but my god that bed is hideous.  Toss it, the clipping is horrendous.

Methinks maybe you need Smart Beds, then they probably possibly wouldn't have decided to sleep in the same bed in the first place.

Methinks there may be something screwy going on in rel var3 (the way the game determines these things). But doesn't the game use rel var3 to draw the family tree?

Well, the family tree is obviously screwed - it's just fortunate mum is an elder or there just might be some very wierd offspring!  Maybe it's time she moved out into an old folks bungalow?

That's what I was talking about. There is a double and single version.
(http://thesims2.ea.com/sims2_exchange/story/03/181903/snapshot_73dba3b6_93dcca24.jpg)
Whole story with more craptastic squalor here: http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/story_detail.php?asset_id=181903
(still in progress as LotFullofSims stopped working with BV and I couldn't get Blythe pregnant with the 11th child, much less start the kids on reproducing)

For your trashy trash needs, MSBarrows and CycloneSue from TSR. Then MTS2. Search for "dirty" "junk" and "trash".

True, all the best junk from TSR! ;)  And Aikea Guinea and Gelydh's clothing for that trashed, "I slept in the park" look. 

My Urban Jungle started that way, but most of my sims have started "gentrifying" their neighbourhoods now, and all available teens have either gone off to college, some have come back summa cum laude, and some are still waiting to be old enough to go (I make them wait until they only have a day or two before they grow up) so I'm having to give them some new furniture and I rather think one or two should stop going around barefoot now!

My current 'hood is Queen's Cove (and really, this should be the last Sims2 'hood I have). It's kind of going in the opposite direction. Prosperity 'hood, oosely based on how Plasticbox does his 'hoods. Very OFB reliant. The first four houses are nice-to-extravagant and in this area called Badger Square. The fifth is a glorified shack thrown to the other side of the island. The business owners will always have nice houses, but now that Iyana has started up the lower class, there will be more of a variety in the quality of living. The Nuturing Bigfoot Ninja leaves his home in the woods periodically to visit the beach in all his hairy splendor. And Edmund, the resident sexist pig, has just given birth to the 'hood's first Alien Overlord.

Last?  You might hate Sims3! ::)

The mother's dead now, so it doesn't really matter anymore  :P and as I said in a previous post, they didn't have any romantic options between each other; just the regular family ones (friendly hug, family kiss, no bed options).

My hood (or even just the particular lot) has been getting extremely glitchy lately. I've started getting the jaggedy line bubbles (but I do have the fix for it  :-\) and then sims use objects that aren't there, eg. a sim was using a bubble blower in the kitchen, but the bubble blower is outside.

This glitch just amused me  :D luckily I'm up to generation eight in my legacy, so I can scrap the hood soon.

I imagine you've tried cleaning out all the junk memories and trash from the family, particularly gossip left behind with the dead?

Yep, I've done that. And I did see a post here where someone mentioned that the jaggedy line bubbles could also come from that (the clearing).

As long as the hood holds up to generation 10, I'm not going to start panicking about borkedness yet.

Well, I use the options available on the debugger and I've never seen any jaggedy line bubbles as a result.  I used to get them associated with furiousness, I think it was, and cleaning out furious tokens and furious reverses in SimPE would get rid of them.  I would suggest, if you haven't done so already, that you get rid of all those tokens, they make for a lot of glitchiness and slowdowns if your sims are still furious, but if they aren't, then I think the tokens are supposed to delete themselves, but frequently they don't.  (Something like that, anyway.)

And I'm pretty sure Syberspunk has a hack to fix that furious reverse business.

*Off to search Syberspunk's stuff"

If it also stops them getting the tokens, then I shall definitely try it!  (I have Paladin's Stop All Attraction Reactions, which is fine, but I still need to nuke attraction markers as, although the sims don't appear to react, they still spawn the token.)

Well, I couldn't find it here at MATY, so maybe I'll check and see if it's at MTS2 next time I'm in the mood.

I made a really inbred family line just to see what would happen, but since Sims are Sims I didn't get any interesting deformities, just the kids looking more and more like the original (vampire) father. Funnily enough, one of the fourth inbred generation has brown eyes from her great-grandmother despite all the reintroducing of the blue eyes of her father/great-grandfather. I'm getting tired of the vampire, though, so I think he's done contributing his genes to the line :P

Well, despite the patch, I'm getting still getting some oddities in the haircolours (I mostly use custom eyes, so that's not so noticeable) such as a dark-haired sim and a light or red-haired sim having a red-haired baby.  I also have one couple, he has brown hair (Maxis) while she has black (also Maxis).  They've had two sets of twins, the first both girls, and both were Gemini (usually twins in my game appear by RL standards to have been born 2 or 3 months apart!) with very similar features, but one has black hair, the other brown.  They were followed into the world a few days later by another set of twins, boy and girl this time, which rarely happens in my game.

Sim genetics is wierd, and the rules change with each EP, I think!

Inbred deformities...

The weirdest deformities seem to come from mixtures, really, of different dominant features.  In fact, if you have a nice looking couple that keep bearing ugly-as-crap kids, you can edit the dominant features out of their DNA using Simpe (assuming that Simpe is available for you -- us folks with BV are out of luck at the moment.)

Suggestion to any EA programmers if you are listening: in Sims 3, if you still have "dominant features," try to at least line the feature up vertically on the face using an average.  As it is, a child inheriting a dominant nose can have it placed way too high or low on the face, ending up looking like donald duck. 

And that's just exactly what I was looking for, I think - trashed look clothing.  Seriously, I am finding it difficult to run beachcomber sims wearing Prada and Yves St-Laurent.  (What, you're going down the beach in those heels?)

I have a couple of torn jeans outfits for boys and girls, but not nearly enough.  They can't all dress as pirates (well, OK they can, but what sort of a life is that?).  I will check out TSR. 

@zazazu: The box beds are great.  Cheers for the linky.

There are some kids' clothes at The Strawberry Patch that are worn and faded.  You can also get some of Rabid Angel's clothing at Sims Connection in the freebies, if you don't mind the body-builder arms.

Unfortunately, this hasn't really worked for me. In the story linked above, you can see the craptastic mix of features Blythe got. I gave her plastic surgery to another face template. I then went into SimPE and removed every dominant reference. First baby still had the enormous forehead, etc. Then I went and replaced all of her geometric data for her face with the template's data. Still funky kids. I probably missed some random reference somewhere...I do that.  8)


For the dark-haired/red-haired combo, was the dark-haired sim a CAS sim? If not, depending on parentage, they could have been carrying a red/blond recessive gene. When you have testingcheats enabled and are on the lot, type "SimDNA SIMNAME" in the cheat console and see what it says for hair. I haven't noticed anything displaying incorrectly since BV, and genetics is something I'm focusing on (trying to keep red/blond hair alive as well as these recessive custom gray-green eyes).

As for twins, I have the trip/quad hack set to 6% twins/3% triplets/ 2% quads. Blythe was my last pre-BV played sim. Her first six was a set of twins, a multiple birth bug set of twins, and another set of twins. My first post-BV sim had a set of twins. Luckily, since then, all singles. "My" triplets were intentional...triplets kind of run in my family, so I wanted my self-sim to have them.

Totally clean hood, all sims of first generation are CAS - but in the case of Milton and Marie-Louise, Marie-Louise was a CAS townie along with one sister and two brothers (since CAS, genetically not so, of course).

No twin hacks of any kind, no cheesecake either.  She just has twins, and twins, and I'm waiting to see what happens next time she gets pregnant!  (but she did get that pregnancy modifier that a lot of townies get.....)

Ha, I had a sim born whose mother has a "longer" face than the father and got this (http://simulacrum.projectsquish.net/stories/sv/wf_1-239.png). And it didn't get much better with aging either, though things looked up a bit when she was a teen, but it went back downhill after that.

Could be worse, I suppose, but not by much.....I've had a few born-in-game kids who've had to hide behind face-paints from toddlers on - until plastic surgery becomes an option (but unfortunately, of course, gene therapy is not yet available as a career reward!) :'(

Face paint! Why didn't I think of that? I just picked out a long hair that covered most of the face to cover it up.

Well, I like using face-paint for kids - makes them look like they've just had a fun day out!  But in a "normal" hood, it looks stupid on adults, so then I have to do something about the button nose and the upper lip that nearly reaches the cheekbones!

There's a tutorial at MTS2 (http://forums.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=56241) on how to change the sim's genetics after plastic surgery, so that they'll pass on the new facial features instead of the old.  Nervous always gets this surgery now - he had twins once in my game and the ugliness bred true for at least 3 generations after that.  Since then I've never allowed him to breed without changing his genetics first.

I know it can be done in SimPE - but I want the gene therapy table......... ;)

*laughs at self* I knew I was missing something. I was changing just the files for the sim herself, not the genes. Ah well. At least #11 (once lotfullofsims is updated) and Rylie's kids won't be freaks.

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