Crammyboy's nudist hack v2.07 (updated for Bon Voyage)

[antitheftmilk]

I'll have another go with the hack conflict detector and re-check the sims scores.

The conflict issue was the first thing I thought of, and was the first thing I checked. As I remember, no conflicts other then what should be expected, but those where loading in the correct order.

I shall have to do this tomorrow though, now is bedtime.

[Blackwiddow]

Sorry about being away - but health takes precedence. Will be looking into the problems youv'e been having.

I haven't been able to replicate this. I had this problem a while ago, in an earlier release.
Have you rechecked for conflicts?

[Fat D]

FreeTime changed some BHAVs edited by this hack. Is an update required?

[Blackwiddow]

I'm just starting to look through the possible changes, will let you know soon.

[Fat D]

I'm just starting to look through the possible changes, will let you know soon.

Thanks.

[sloppyhousewife]

There seems to be a conflict with earning Enthusiasm for the Fitness Hobby Meter from Exercise Machines/Yoga and this hack.

The Sims still gain Body Skill, they don't gain Fitness Hobby.

Is this just a wild guess or did you actually try out if your sim gets fitness enthusiasm *without* this hack?

[sloppyhousewife]

Yes.

Tried it with and without.

Adding this Hack stops it from working. Removing it, "fixes" it.

Ah, good to know - I'd just been wondering because you wrote

There seems to be a conflict

Thanks for clarification.

[Blackwiddow]

There are several major conficts, am working on it now. Give me a few days.

[Deviancy]

The male sims seem a bit more keen on being naked since FT, for some reason the issue doesn't seem to effect the female sims. 

I haven't experienced the fitness issue, all of the sims appear to still be able to gain fitness enthusiasm regardless of what tool they use in order to obtain the enthusiasm..

Capone: A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms. Enthusiams... What are mine? What draws my admiration? What is that which gives me joy? Baseball! .

Anywho..

Thanks for working on getting this to work on ft, blackwiddow...

[doren]

I haven't experienced the fitness issue, all of the sims appear to still be able to gain fitness enthusiasm regardless of what tool they use in order to obtain the enthusiasm..

The new objects seem to work with the nudist hack in (I tried with the bycycle), some activities (swimming) give you fitness enthusiasm, but the original exercise machines, tai-chi and yoga don't.

[Fat D]

There are several major conficts, am working on it now. Give me a few days.

real days or scotty days?

[szielins]

On the odd chance anyone else might find this useful:

File CBOY_nudist_bathShowerNoShoo.package : replacement semiglobals in group 0x7FE69E23:

   0x200A  Enter Shower
   0x200D  Enter Bath
   0x205A  Enter Shower - Bathtub Shower

All made nudist-aware: Sims otherwise willing to be naked in a room containing a shower or bathtub won't shoo other Sims out before making use of it.  (Doors into the room still get locked, though-- so if a Sim leaves, they may not be able to reenter.)

[Karen]

There seems to be a conflict with earning Enthusiasm for the Fitness Hobby Meter from Exercise Machines/Yoga and this hack.

The Sims still gain Body Skill, they don't gain Fitness Hobby.

Is this just a wild guess or did you actually try out if your sim gets fitness enthusiasm *without* this hack?

Yes.

Tried it with and without.

Adding this Hack stops it from working. Removing it, "fixes" it.

I don't think that's true.  I finally put this hack back in my game today, deciding I didn't want to wait any longer for an update that might never materialize.  In one of my houses I have a teen who seems obsessed with the exercise machine (the stationary bike from FT), and he often uses it autonomously.  He went from 2 fitness points to 3 in a few hours, and I did see the message indicating he had gained enthusiasm.  Macro...Hobbinate also works fine with this hack installed, as far as I can tell.  So it is definitely possible to still gain fitness enthusiasm with this hack installed.

If there are "major conflicts" (as someone stated above), I haven't run into any yet.  Does anybody know for sure what it might conflict with?

Karen

[doren]

I don't think that's true.  I finally put this hack back in my game today, deciding I didn't want to wait any longer for an update that might never materialize.  In one of my houses I have a teen who seems obsessed with the exercise machine (the stationary bike from FT), and he often uses it autonomously.  He went from 2 fitness points to 3 in a few hours, and I did see the message indicating he had gained enthusiasm.  Macro...Hobbinate also works fine with this hack installed, as far as I can tell.  So it is definitely possible to still gain fitness enthusiasm with this hack installed.

If there are "major conflicts" (as someone stated above), I haven't run into any yet.  Does anybody know for sure what it might conflict with?

Karen

See above. It works with the exercise machine that came with FT (the one you used), it does not work with the older exercise machines. Sims gain fitness enthusiasm from swimming, but not from yoga or tai-chi. I am not sure about working out with the stereo or tv. But it does not leave many options for fitness enthusiasm.

[Karen]

Well, if that's the only conflict, I think I can live with it.  Thanks for clarifying.

Karen

[pcgeekri]

There could be more, but all I have found so far is the Interaction BHAVs do not have the "Enthusiasm Start" and Enthusiasm End" nodes.  So I just added the 2 nodes to the Interaction BHAVs in their proper order.

Thank  you SimPE, thank you Hackdiff,

Pcgeekri

[Karen]

How about posting your fixed version, then?

Karen

[pcgeekri]

Okay, here is the package where I fixed the enthusiasm.  Sorry I didn't reply sooner, Saturday was busy.  Everyone wants HDTV, NTSC is soooo 20th century.  I would like to some feedback that it is working for you as well.

Later,

Pcgeekri

[ilikefishfood]

Just thought I'd let you know pcgeekri, that all seems to be working as its supposed to so far.  I got a simmie to build fitness enthusiasm using an old exercise machine - I heard that that was what was borked before the update. Going to see if I can build fitness enthusiasm with yoga and tai chi too.  I'll be back.....

EDIT:  Yup, its working for yoga too!  Good going there, pegeekri!  Thanks!

[ilikefishfood]

PcGeekri, the Conflict Detector tool is showing a conflit with Pesky's 'vacationfixes'....I don't recall the BV version doing that.  Can anything be done about it?

[pcgeekri]

Oh yes, the sunbathe.....  What I did to fix that confict was delete the sunbathe bhav from Vacation fixes.  The easiest fix would be if you want the sim to get nude for sunbathe if it wants too is have the nude mod load after by renaming and putting a "z" infront of the name making it "zCBOY_..... .

Later,

Pcgeekri

[J. M. Pescado]

Unless this hack already includes the sunbathe fixes, this will produce a conflict that will break the fix and result in invisotowels abandoned on the lot again. If a hack conflict is not described in the RTFMs as being explicitly permitted, always assume that the two hacks are fundamentally incompatible and one will destroy functionality of the other. If one of those hacks is a yellow fix, do not mix them.

[Dark Trepie]

So I've started playing again for a bit and threw in pcgeekri's updated version.  Noticed immediately that sims don't do the nude check anymore and wonder around homes, dorms, hotels, and community lots in the buff.  Even the shy sims.  Guess I didn't notice it before because the one house I was playing had BUY.  And it forces them to dress.

It wouldn't be too big of a problem, but Twikki Island has become a nudist colony now...

[awrevell]

I noticed this problem as well and started to investigate the situation.  The problem is caused not by a conflict or a failure on the part of the mod but the intentional lowering of the threshold and changing values to encourage nudity.  I reverted the values to those in the original mod and am posting it here for those of you who don't want a nudist colony.

[imyourboy]

Does it work with Freetime?