Room Service Fix - Not Fixed

[Magicmoon]

I have seen the complaints around the site about the Room Service not properly working, and the fix posted at MTS2. http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=249921

I started a clean game and took the Travelers to Tikki Twin Palms hotel and saved the game. I tried room service several times, but the hotel clerk would reach under the table, pull out the tray, and it would dissappear.

I put the fix in the game and saw room service work properly for the first time.

I added in Maty Hacks, and the clerk would serve the tray on the check-in desk, making the food dissappear. But this time he actually removed the tray lid, just at the desk rather than in the room.

I spent the next couple of hours doing a binary search. Soon it seemed that quite a few mods were incompatible. That really didn't make sense, especially since the mod conflict report was clean.

So I went back to just having the fix in the download folder, and after 10 game reloads, found that it is only working about 50% of the time, half the time working properly, the other half of the time serving it on the clerk's desk.  I reported the problem to the mod's author.

Will we be getting an awesome fix for this irritating problem? The one available just isn't doing the job. Or do we need to just wait for the patch?

[Alexx]

I've checked it again and removed all possible break points from this procedure.So,please redownload from MTS2 and let me know about results.

[Simmer]

I am not sure if this will help or not, but I have trying to make sure the room service has a clear table and chair to place the food onto, so what I did was put a single table and chair closest to the door.. before if something was in it's way it looked like it disappeared and I found it later on the ground..

the other is I did notice you can't order more than once until someone is actually eating the first meal that was ordered..

[Inge]

Seems odd to post a report about an MTS2 hack on the MATY forum.  Unless it was first posted in the appropriate thread and the author said "sorry that's the best I can do".

Or is the etiquette I had got used to with the Sims 1 community considered out of date now?

[mistymage]

Seems to me the OP did report to the author of that hack that it wasn't working.. and was asking here in the hopes that His Awsomeness could possibly make an awesome hack that worked better/less conflicting than the other hack.  Pescado does frown upon the usage of less awesome hacks so it stands to reason to ask if he has a fix.


I don't think one could ask for a better hack request than the one the OP did.. they did their homework, requested instead of demanded and used nice grammar.

~misty

[Alexx]

If it work for hundreds and not work for few-is it mean NOT fixed?Why I'm not surprised?For most part of MATY members even
Squinge's mods non-awesome(even when they still have 30% in their downloads).

[jsalemi]

Yea, but when things break MATY folks assume it's the non-awesome first.

[Xuriel]

If it work for hundreds and not work for few-is it mean NOT fixed?

Well, yes, that's exactly what it means. If it was truly fixed then it should work for everyone all the time, otherwise it means there are still problems with it. Even Pescado has to do some tweaking on his stuff once in a while, but he doesn't whine about it... just saying...

[gethane]

Do you have jmp's dramafix hack? I decided to find out what was causing this (and my fountain problem) and so I took out all my hacks, room service worked fine. Then put just my jmp folder in, broken. Then I started narrowing it down and its dramafix. It causes weird jerky lag and the room service bug. Or at least MY room service bug.

[jsalemi]

Make sure you have the latest version of dramafix in (dated may 27 of this year, I believe).  I have dramafix in my game and never had a problem with the room service tray disappearing. You might want to check to make sure you have all your JMP hacks updated, too, and remove any that haven't been updated for BV yet (there are a few).

[gethane]

hmm less whiny seems to do it too. I checked both dramafix and less whiny twice. In, start the game, out start the game.

[Alexx]

If it work for hundreds and not work for few-is it mean NOT fixed?

Well, yes, that's exactly what it means. If it was truly fixed then it should work for everyone all the time, otherwise it means there are still problems with it. Even Pescado has to do some tweaking on his stuff once in a while, but he doesn't whine about it... just saying...

Bull shit...just saying...about whine...
I'm not awesome person in chatting and in english too,but as for me,more correct  name for this topic could be "roomservice fix-not fixed for ME"

[Zazazu]

If it work for hundreds and not work for few-is it mean NOT fixed?

Well, yes, that's exactly what it means. If it was truly fixed then it should work for everyone all the time, otherwise it means there are still problems with it. Even Pescado has to do some tweaking on his stuff once in a while, but he doesn't whine about it... just saying...

Bull shit...just saying...about whine...
I'm not awesome person in chatting and in english too,but as for me,more correct  name for this topic could be "roomservice fix-not fixed for ME"

Actually, magicmoon said:

So I went back to just having the fix in the download folder, and after 10 game reloads, found that it is only working about 50% of the time, half the time working properly, the other half of the time serving it on the clerk's desk.  I reported the problem to the mod's author.

There were no other hacks it was conflicting against. Which means the hack, in a clean game, was only working half the time. There's another person in the MTS2 thread who is having the same problem. Buy hey, don't support your mods, and keep copying JM's work for kicks (with slight changes), proporting VBT's as advice to simmers, et al. Due to your attitude, I'd never download anything you put out.

[Alexx]

You don't want to use my mods Zazazu?This is tragedy for me ...

[Zazazu]

I know. I'm terribly sorry. If it helps, I can refer you to several assistance programs to pay for your Prozac.

[Alexx]

I'm learned and still learning from great Pescados(and not only)mods,but never used any JMP mods extractions in my creations!Shamelessly to talk about it Zazazu,but as obviously the conscience it is not your property...

[J. M. Pescado]

hmm less whiny seems to do it too. I checked both dramafix and less whiny twice. In, start the game, out start the game.

I really, really don't think those are related, considering they affect totally unrelated code areas. It is more simply explained that the behavior is simply random and depends on random factors completely unrelated to the above. These are typically the hardest glitches to track down.

Also, the problem doesn't happen in my game at all, despite having everything and nothing specifically for fixing it. I am inclined to chalk this up as a Gethane-type problem. Once again, I place the blame squarely on tight pants.

[Zazazu]

I'm learned and still learning from great Pescados(and not only)mods,but never used any JMP mods extractions in my creations!Shamelessly to talk about it Zazazu,but as obviously the conscience it is not your property...

I'm sorry, there's a bit of ESL challenge with my reading your posts (not your fault, I admire people who learn multiple languages). Are you saying that I don't have a conscience? How in the world did you come to that conclusion?

[MissDoh]

Zazazu, not sure but I think he meant that this mod is not your property.  Could be wrong though. 

ETA:  An IMHO, he did gave support according to this:

I've checked it again and removed all possible break points from this procedure.So,please redownload from MTS2 and let me know about results

Personally, I must be a lucky one like Pescado since I did not experience this bug so far therefore I felt no need to install this fix, crossing fingers so it stays that way.

[Zazazu]

It's not, and I've never claimed it is. He just rubs me the wrong way. If you can't tell  .

[Magicmoon]

I downloaded the updated fix, put it in a clean game, and took a family on vacation. I took them to every hotel in the 3 Lakes hood, and room service worked every time. I then took them home and chose a different family to go on vacation.

When the 2nd family went on vacation. Room service didn't work again. I took them to every hotel in the Oriental hood and it didn't work for any of them. Remember, this is still the clean game and still the same game load, I didn't restart my game after testing the first family.

So frustrated, I left the fix in and put all of my other hacks back in the game. It's working almost every time now.

So EA has done something weird, because this fix should work every time, not just most of the time. I'm wondering if Maxis broke the code in 2 different places or something. Perhaps something doesn't load in correctly when the vacation hood loads, because that one family couldn't get the room service to work for their entire vacation, where the family before them had it working the entire time, and since I didn't reload the game in between vacations, it should have worked exactly the same.

*When I say 'didn't work' I mean that the bellhop served the food on the check-in desk instead of taking it to the room. In a clean game, without the fix, I can't get room service to work at all. The food tray just disappears as soon as it is taken from under the desk. I have all the EPs, but none of the stuff packs.

I'm trying to understand why clean games would behave differently for different people and why anything would work 2 different ways during the same game load. It doesn't make sense.

I have posted a similar reply in the author's thread.