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As first announced on MY forum  There is a patch for seasons out. Also according to MaxoidGoonter if you have the latest EP...in this case seasons...you do NOT need to install the earlier patches with the exception of the second Pets patch..as those fixes did not make their way into Seasons. ETA Here is the thread from my forum |
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Hmmm thats all it will fix ? Complete list of changes: Custom objects will now be preserved when uploading Lots to the Exchange. Musician Career Track career reward (Rock Hammer) now has audio functioning correctly. Sim Babies no longer cry excessively.  |
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Hmmm thats all it will fix ? Complete list of changes: Custom objects will now be preserved when uploading Lots to the Exchange. Musician Career Track career reward (Rock Hammer) now has audio functioning correctly. Sim Babies no longer cry excessively. That's what I'm saying. Not so much a patch but a stitch, or something of lesser sewing terms. * LK high fives Twain |
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Hey at least they fixed something....better than nothing.
Normally it is months before EA does anything.
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Nec
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I'm trying to figure out why they need a 45.5MB exe to fix 3 things. That is about the size of EP2 and EP3 patches combined  |
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I'm trying to figure out why they need a 45.5MB exe to fix 3 things. That is about the size of EP2 and EP3 patches combined Indeed. I was trying to say this for about three minutes because I couldn't seem to actually be able to post something. |
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Tamha
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Besides the ridiculous size of the thing, it should be pretty easy to spot a patch upgrade at least with that list being so small.
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As first announced on MY forum Funny, I first heard about it on MY forum. When you told me.  |
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I'm trying to figure out why they need a 45.5MB exe to fix 3 things. That is about the size of EP2 and EP3 patches combined I didn't even check that (I'm at work, and so I'm not too interested in the patch right now). It could have been interesting to ask goonter that when he was around (ETA: he's around now)...especially when he said that the individual patches only fix the respective EPs and are not cumulitive. |
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of all the errors and bullshit going on with this game they fix three things? ...i mean yeah, the little demon spawns screaming stopping is a good thing, but come on.
They have all those employees and this is all they come up with in the time they've had? I feel so sorry for all those exchange sheep...
this is totally the reason why JM is way more awesome...
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Given that the patch is 45 MB, there is probably more than is explicitly listed. Once my game gets to a parking orbit, I will investigate and run a full diffscan to see what really changed.
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Please, thank you. Usually those little patches with long long lists download zoom for me. That one was chuga-chuga. There's certainly something in it and I wanna know what it is before I break my game with it.
So the maxoid said for Seasons folk to install the Pets patch and the Seasons patch? So did he say if we need to *uninstall* Seasons to properly accomplish that? (Is very confused by how this EP and patch stuff works, as if the new EP doesn't access the old code (as Pescado says and makes sense to me being there's new code there) how can an old patch work with a new EP. Even if you uninstall the last one, then patch *that* code, when you reinstall, you got new code again - so it'd be... unpatched? Right?
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Right. Like I said, there's probably something in there that isn't documented. Who the hell has time to document every stupid little fix? I sure don't.
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jsalemi
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I'm trying to figure out why they need a 45.5MB exe to fix 3 things. That is about the size of EP2 and EP3 patches combined The Seasons objects.package is 75Mb (up from 51Mb for Pets), so if they just include a replacement version of that file alone, they probably can't compress it much smaller. |
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So the maxoid said for Seasons folk to install the Pets patch and the Seasons patch? So did he say if we need to *uninstall* Seasons to properly accomplish that? you can install the pets patch with seasons installed no problem, just gives a little warning that says you have a newer expansion you may want to get a patch for that one or you can stick to the fixes found here ...which also work |
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Right. Like I said, there's probably something in there that isn't documented. Who the hell has time to document every stupid little fix? I sure don't. Right, I got that part. Actually you usually do document what you're doing as long as I find the time to read every little thread. you can install the pets patch with seasons installed no problem, just gives a little warning that says you have a newer expansion you may want to get a patch for that one yeah, I did that, but the thread in 'you broke it' has a discussion about not getting all the fixes and Pescado says either way it's sugar pills. The fixes here don't fix the genetics - unless I missed another little thread here somewheres. |
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I see the Maxoids are up to their usual brain dead comments. Initially, MaxoidGoonter said: Here is the definitive answer to this question, directly from the EP team itself:
You only need to apply the most recent patch for the most recent EP you have installed.
This is because the installation of your most recent EP includes all previous bug fixes, so there is no need to apply previous patches. Then made this totally contradictory and illogical statement: I think this one is an exception, because all the patch information from Pets didn't get into Seasons.
Just to be safe, if you have Pets and Seasons, you should install both patches. Well, I think it's safe to say that Maxoids are all idiots who don't even listen to the tech team responsible for the actual work. |
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That made sense to me. How could the 2nd pets patch- which came out post seasons- have been rolled into the seasons EP? "the installation of your most recent EP includes all previous bug fixes"-- but the second pets patch isn't a previous bug fix, as it was created later on. So you still need it.
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dizzy
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The EP team very clearly said that the Pets patch is of no value unless you are playing Pets. Therefore, if you are playing Seasons, the Pets patches do *not* fix anything. It's a placebo.
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Here is the definitive answer to this question, directly from the EP team itself:
You only need to apply the most recent patch for the most recent EP you have installed.
This is because the installation of your most recent EP includes all previous bug fixes, so there is no need to apply previous patches. Unless there was more to the statement than what you've quoted, it says nothing about not using the pets exe. That's what JM and others have managed to figure out on our own. So if the other maxoid didn't know about that, I can see how he'd extrapolate that you need the pets patch still: they think that seasons includes the pets patches .5 and 1, but not 2, so you need 2. It doesn't work that way, but nothing in your quote says that. |
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Argon
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In terms of carried over effects, it looks like only these patches matter (assuming you have seasons):
The Sims 2: 1.0.0.971 (first patch, each expansion installs 1.0.0.999; change is reverted post 1.0.0.994?)
University: 1.1.0.284 (latest)
Nightlife: 1.2.0.355 (latest)
Open For Business: 1.3.0.351 (latest)
Family Fun Stuff: 1.4.0.142 (latest)
Pets: 1.6.0.273 (patch after the BodyShop fix)
This is only from using WinDiff to see what files actually change.
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Do I need to translate this again? ... there is no need to apply previous patches. What part of "no" don't you understand? |
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lindaetterlee
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Well all i can say is after this patch my game started going crazy again.
People are auto teleporting when you cancel out a phone call. Servos are trying to swim and commit suicide. A few more things but i will have to go back into the game to list them.
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Proud Army Wife of a soldier deployed to IRAQ. Support us or get the fuck out. I am 25. The same thing happened with my Pescado, before this he was a lady's man. Now he is some guy's bitch. |
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Argon
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Do I need to translate this again? ... there is no need to apply previous patches. What part of "no" don't you understand? The patches above modify some of the files in the 3D and template folders, so those ones are needed for later expansions since they are loaded and not changed by any later expansions. |
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Do I need to translate this again? ... there is no need to apply previous patches. What part of "no" don't you understand? You keep quoting the same thing over and over. I'm pointing out how the statement you quoted could be misinterpreted, like it was, and you keep quoting it at me. "previous" is the key word: obviously the author of the second statement, rightly or wrongly, assumed a patch coming out after a subsequent EP is not a "previous patch". |
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